UPDATE: It turns out the steam auto update method doesn't work alone! Definitely make sure you follow the steps to set the acf file to read only! At 8:30 in the video! For easy access for the codes in the video: steam://nav/console Downgrade from version 1.6.1170 to 1.6.1130: download_depot 489830 489831 3737743381894105176 download_depot 489830 489832 4341968404481569190 download_depot 489830 489833 2442187225363891157 Downgrade from 1.6.1170 or 1.6.1130 to 1.6.640: download_depot 489830 489831 3660787314279169352 download_depot 489830 489832 2756691988703496654 download_depot 489830 489833 5291801952219815735
the easiest method for a newcomer is to not purchase the game on steam and instead go to GOG and get the game on sale but also it comes with which ever version you want to use and it doesn't have DRM and also none of that always online bs that steam now has for this game, and the added on effect of never having to worry about updates ever again so instead of doing all that nonsense in the video, no offense, there is a much easier way of doing this, and it's by going the GOG route.
Thanks for this. I was worried nobody would notice about the awful situation Bethesda is in rn. We shouldn't make people aware of that with mean twitter posts and Reddit .. Also a fundraiser for Bethesda would be a good idea. I'm sure without they will not be able to continue releasing one banger after another.. Like their best games ever - Fallout 76 and STARFIELD !
@@theroldan8675 for that version of the game, that ended at the same time it began lol. but i get your point, it's why they gave away skyrim SE for free to all those who owned LE in the beginning, because they had larger plans to make modding into a career for modders and also a store where they can sell their mods, they just needed to entice people on the idea first through the creation club. and who are the easiest market to offer this kind of thing to you ask, well it's the console gamers, they are always willing to cough up more money for an item, so bethesda had to figure out how to do this, it's too bad they made shit game after shit game to the point of bankruptcy and having Microsoft owning their asses lol. because now our anger is no longer directed at bethesda for this idea, it's now Microsoft's plan, i know we keep blaming bethesda, but Microsoft calls the shots now, and it might just become worse in the future.
smart! Same here. I am not about to let Todd try to f with us. Especially all the updates didn't make any impacts to the game. It is clear that they are just trying to break mods.
i had to rebuilt my PC but i didn't rebuild it in time before that update that screwed with the downgrade patcher, so now i have to get the game on GOG instead which is fine because bethesda can't mess with that version and it has no online capability and it's also on sale at 90% off for the next 3 months, but at least i will be peace of mind that version will never be fucked with unlike the one on steam.
@@5226-p1e Whats the difference between the GoG version and Steam version for playing with older mods? Here I was planning on buying a Steam Deck just for playing Skyrim on too. It's nuts. :(
Yea...at least until you encounter some late game glitches or native skyrim bugs that make you think you did something wrong scouring through your load order removing mods till your save is screwed only to play without those mods on brand new and realize it was just skyrim being skyrim all along and then you quit out of frustration of losing your perfect run lvl 56 character..only to just repeat everything again in another month or so out of spite to play what you paid for🤣😂@@larryvansertima7095
I used to run on 1.6.5.3 but I missed my Ultimate Combat animations, and actual boss fights, and downpatched to 1.5.9.7. Be aware, I’ve had my settings I PURPOSELY set to NEVER LAUNCH GAME UNLESS I LAUNCH IT, and when an update drops, my settings magically change to, “always keep my game up to date,” without my consent or knowledge.
1.6.640 (or something like that, I don't remember perfectly) is fine as well, the anniversary edition is poorly monetized as an "upgrade" while just being paid mods, but they're kinda cool
@@AtharvaThumbare I just had a new mod where the mod author had to tweak his/her mod so it would be recognized by 1.5.97. Without the header change, the mod esp was completely invisible to my Skyrim. He thought it was all my end till 3 or 4 others in the forum chimed in that the mod wasn't working.
@@AtharvaThumbare The problem is the new Creation Kit update. All versions of Skyrim SE/AE up to 1.6.640 use header version 1.7, however as of 1.6.1130 and the Creation Kit update that went with it, when an ESM/ESP/ESL is saved in the CK the header version gets saved as 1.71. Essentially: Header version 1.7 can be used with all versions of Skyrim even ≥1.6.1130, however the 1.71 header version only works with version 1.6.1130 or greater. Changing the header version is easy enough to do in xEdit, and someone even make a script to change the header version for you in xEdit if you're not sure where to look to manually change it.
When I heard about the update, I said to myself that I Wouldn't update from 16.4440. but then I found this Armore mod(it required an updating Skyrim to be able to see this armor in the game) So I updated 1.6.1130. Took me many hours and headaches until I finally got my Skyrim to work like It used to be. I'll not update my game anymore for any reason. I learned from my mistakes. From 600+ Mods down to close to 400. My game started much faster also.
so with 1.6.640 there is a mod that gives you the updated files for the new version so you don't have to lose any mods at all would highly recommended going back and getting the mod the name is Backported Extended ESL Support
Regarding the GOG version, like Steam, GOG has frequent weekly & quarterly sales. I picked up Skyrim SE, even the AE DLC/add-on during the last Xmas sale for under $15. So if you don’t have a pressing need right this second, and can hold off a purchase until a sale, you can get it fairly reasonably priced. Without the AE dlc I think it was under $10.
I switched to the GOG version a month ago and am up to a 106 mods list; I had been running over 300 mods before. I have at least temporarily lost many of my favorite animation mods but am still happy to be free of all the Steam/Bethesda garbage. Most mods will work fine on GOG, you just have to read first.
Thank you for being another channel to join us in showing people how to do this! I slapped one together back in December, but yours is definitely more well put together.
Small detail I want to mention that I and only a handful of people experienced (which makes me this is an issue exclusive to 1.6.640), setting Steam to only update the game when launched, and then using SKSE no longer works as a bypass. It instead will instantly close the game, and try to update, which I couldn't help but feel that was intentional.
You can find a specific Steam manifest for Skyrim SE, and setting it to read only should let you use the SKSE method. Been using it now for a few weeks without issue
This is something I wish more developers would do, It's part of why games like Minecraft have stayed relevant for so long since you can always just go back to an old version to play your favorite adventure map or modpack.
@@MasterBroNetwork There is a LOTR Battle For Middle Earth Launcher that is available and they made it where you can change patches very easily with a click of a button. If Skyrim's Community were make something like that while still requiring a valid copy on steam and all, it would make a big difference especially for mod makers making mods using SKSE.
I personally just run regular skyrim, not SE or AE. Just Skryim. it's good, and it even has a separate category in Nexus so you don't have to worry about capability. It just works.
I am new to this channel and i gotha say me gusta mucho😍 I also really like how you are "educational" on explaining things and fun at the same time:) i am content that i found this channel and subscribed:)
one thing that helped me sort what caused crashes since i have 600+ mods is sort mods by category and disable them one by one and see what causes crashes or (ctd) i was surprised to know that a compass mod was causing all that fuss as it was secretly conflicting with *less intrusive huds*. everything went back to normal and for some reason even mods that didnt work started working too so i suggest changing load order for skse64 then sort mod by category next 👍🏽
Thank you for this. I stopped playing Skyrim for a bit to play games like Baldur's Gate 3 and came back to see Bethesda done fucked everything up again. I was using a massive mod collection too that was rendered basically useless. Probably won't play any Skyrim for a while(got the itch to play Oblivion again lmao), but I will definitely keep this in mind once I get back to it.
Thanks for pointing this out to people, it's been a godsend for me. It may be worth pointing out that the unofficial Skyrim special edition patch is now only available for version 1.6.1130+ on Nexus mods so it could be advisable to install this before you run the downgrade patcher.
I'm slightly shocked Bethesda isn't taking over the beyond skyrim project. Do you have any idea how much money they would make if beyond skyrim bruma costed money???
Honestly, if that happened, I would buy it. Sure, I will be giving money to Microshaft for a games I already bought, but to support Skywind, Beyond Skyrim and Skyblivion, it would be worth it.
While I recommend staying on 1.5.97, I do think it's worth upgrading to 1.6.1130 and then downgrading with the tool, using the "Best of Both Worlds" option. That way you go back to 1.5, but keep the updated ESMs, which newer mods have dependency on and can use updated ESLs, which are actually the one good thing about the recent updates.
Thanks, Helpful Moddin' Rabbit. I set my manifest file to read only long ago, Steam lists Skyrim in my library but thinks I have not downloaded it. I enjoy that.
I just started Skyrim modding again since 2015 and I was having so many combability issues when I found out the game was still being updated for some reason! Thank you so much for this helpful tutorial
the game crash after the logo after the downgrade. Resolved: I used the mod Backported Extended ESL Support - BEES-1_2. Thanks for the video! While I have no compatibility issues with my mods with AE versions, I chose to downgrade the game for ideological reasons. What they did is sadly very bad! I selected to read only the posters and the app so steam can no longer update it.
Unfortunately, Steam and Bethesda now work hand-in-hand to screw you over; setting Steam to Never Update Unless Launched Through Steam DOES NOT WORK. Why? Because, despite ALWAYS launching through MO2, Steam CHANGED my Skyrim settings, right before a Skyrim update, causing the newest update to happen, against both my wishes and my settings. And, as evidenced by multiple comments on my entertainment-news channel, the same has happened to many others. This is Not a joke, Steam is now in bed with Todd Howard to screw you over.
This happened to me too!! Tried to play Skyrim and SKSE told me they didn't match my version of the game. I checked and sure enough, my settings were changed to always keep the game updated. 🤬
Thanks for the video, I'm thinking of getting the game since there is a sale on a keyseller website for 10 dollars and i heard that the mods are where it's at, and i wanted to install any patches and whatnot for a unhindered experience, only problem is the whole system bethesda has with the game updates. so i'll definitely save this video for later. 👍
Hopefully Helgari makes another patch, I'd love to learn from this and make a manual backup of Skyrim once and for all. This manifest downloading all seems pretty jank, unsure how stable my Skyrim ended up now.
Personally I use a modpack that reverts Skyrim to a specific version of Skyrim for that modpack itself. I love it for that reason as I don't need to worry too much about patches. I absolutely feel the pain though of everyone that has to deal with this.
Haven’t played Skyrim in about 5 years, Nolvus the way to go from the get go? Also can anyone tell me is the steam community is the best place to stay up to date with things going on with the game or is there a good discord server?
well last time i had to completely rebuild the game like for the 3rd time sigh this time i was covered no problems i thot until i took comp to shop to get some fams and power supply replace and tech tried to open game from steam.....but this seemed to have worked ty his has been saved by you
Going to have to try this when I can, I didn't realize there was an update so when I used the second set without the first I broke the carriage sequence and deleted a whole chunk of ground in front of Solitude. It was so bad even verifying integrity (which forces you to update btw) couldn't fix it, I'll just have to start from scratch
1 and a half minutes in and i already like this content creator. ya know, there _is_ an ultra secret double-agent way to get Skyrim SE 1.5.97 without having to re-buy the game, use special mods that can cause save game issues or weird steam console commands (which i didnt know you could do until now). but its a hidden in a chest at the bottom of the sea..
I did this a few days ago too, did the Steam hack and just downgraded back down to SE version 1.5.97. Every mod works on this version, and i never get any issues in comparison to AE which always seems to have issues with loads of mods.
When the recent updates broke my 500+ modlist all I did was basically just downgrading to the version I've made my modlist for, yeah it's irritating, but not a big problem for anyone familiar with modding
Also for the GOG version, I think it's only compatible with skse dependent mods for 1.6.640 (because it does have fishing, survival mode etc.), so if you were planning on using mods that weren't updated past 1.5.97 for it you're out of luck.
Thank you so much, I finally got my game back to 1.5.97, and got some of my favorite mods to work. It was annoying, and we shouldn’t have to jump through these hoops, but I guess Todd hates us. Anyway thanks a lot. And I love that now they can’t update it for me anymore. That’s the best part.
Is there a chance that Bethesda could release updates for the game without causing mods to malfunction, or is it unavoidable? Cause all this work to avoid their updates breaking your mod list is really such a headache.
I'm just done with Bethseda at this point, I'm not willing to touch anything being presently tampered with or made in the past 14 years by them. Fallout New Vegas or older from now on. It really sucks because I loved enjoying the mods people keep making, and I'll really miss Inigo... but I am so sick of Bethesda. As I'm getting older, collecting more responsibilities, I find myself having less time for bullshit like this.
Soo I downgrade it back Ae 1.6.640 and it work the first time but somehow it updated it after a week later.. and I finally downgraded it yesterday, game works but when I load into my saved or start a new game, it just crashes after 7 secs, is there a way to fix it?
Was already doing this when i started watching this video, still gets a like from me :D also- there i was thinking Bethesda couldn't have any more reason to feel shameful after Starfield...
Too bad the downgrade patcher hasn't been updated for 1.6.1170 yet.... And the depot method is incomplete; it doesn't cover the translations which need a fourth depot, different for each language. Also, don't use the 1.6.1170 version of gog skyrim yet, we're still waiting for skse on 01/23/2024.
I'm very happy somebody made a video like this but one thing that concerns me is I'm a console player and how am I supposed to fix the issues like that on my end that is if I have to
you know, since i first played skyrim in 2012, i wanted to enjoy it again. Yet im so overwhelmed by the amount of effort to just use some moding.... i just want around like 10 mods, but even that brings me to SKSE (that dosnt work), downgrading Skyrim, choosing wich skyrim since there are now 3 versions out there... i miss the times you just could drag drop them in to the mod folder and it would work 😭
oh wait. so downgrade from the newest update to the 1.6 update before that THEN go to 1.5.97 go from 1.6.1170 to 1.6.1130, then use the patcher mdo edit: Ok the patcher still isn't working. think I need to wait for it to update? I waited for the files in steam to download
The method of changing the steam settings to not update unless you launch it doesn't work anymore. Either Steam or Bethseda has changed that. There was a video a few days ago I watched about that and I checked and sure enough my setting was changed. They change it constantly, no matter how many times you fix it. I think this is really disgusting. What saved my game was having it set to read only. I do agree that the best mod ever is the downgrader patch. I been using it since it came out. Also, best of both will work with all mods. Right now there needs to be another update for it. But yeah, best mod!!
6:18 ok i need to wait for all those to download by the looks of it, because only 1 pops up most of the time Edit: it worked! Got the script extender working now too. going to make the file read-only now had to wait for it to download. my internet's slow for future reference. i get it to 1.6.1130, then use the downgrade patcher to get it to 1.5.97
Disclaimer for those who are trying to prevent steam from updating skyrim. If you do not have steam start up when you turn your PC on then you will need to make sure you turn on steam before you start skyrim from the SKSE exe. Otherwise steam will start up and begin updating skyrim while you are playing. literally just happened to me 10 minutes ago. Thanks steam for not also including an option to just prevent updating altogether if the player so chooses.
UPDATE: It turns out the steam auto update method doesn't work alone! Definitely make sure you follow the steps to set the acf file to read only! At 8:30 in the video!
For easy access for the codes in the video:
steam://nav/console
Downgrade from version 1.6.1170 to 1.6.1130:
download_depot 489830 489831 3737743381894105176
download_depot 489830 489832 4341968404481569190
download_depot 489830 489833 2442187225363891157
Downgrade from 1.6.1170 or 1.6.1130 to 1.6.640:
download_depot 489830 489831 3660787314279169352
download_depot 489830 489832 2756691988703496654
download_depot 489830 489833 5291801952219815735
the easiest method for a newcomer is to not purchase the game on steam and instead go to GOG and get the game on sale but also it comes with which ever version you want to use and it doesn't have DRM and also none of that always online bs that steam now has for this game, and the added on effect of never having to worry about updates ever again
so instead of doing all that nonsense in the video, no offense, there is a much easier way of doing this, and it's by going the GOG route.
Thanks for this. I was worried nobody would notice about the awful situation Bethesda is in rn. We shouldn't make people aware of that with mean twitter posts and Reddit ..
Also a fundraiser for Bethesda would be a good idea.
I'm sure without they will not be able to continue releasing one banger after another..
Like their best games ever - Fallout 76 and STARFIELD !
I use oldrim .. I have original but use a pirated version cos bethesda has a tradition of messing modlist since 2014.
@@theroldan8675
for that version of the game, that ended at the same time it began lol.
but i get your point, it's why they gave away skyrim SE for free to all those who owned LE in the beginning, because they had larger plans to make modding into a career for modders and also a store where they can sell their mods, they just needed to entice people on the idea first through the creation club.
and who are the easiest market to offer this kind of thing to you ask, well it's the console gamers, they are always willing to cough up more money for an item, so bethesda had to figure out how to do this, it's too bad they made shit game after shit game to the point of bankruptcy and having Microsoft owning their asses lol.
because now our anger is no longer directed at bethesda for this idea, it's now Microsoft's plan, i know we keep blaming bethesda, but Microsoft calls the shots now, and it might just become worse in the future.
Thanks for the tip about the steam app manifest file. I just got back into Skyrim after like 6-7 years and this will definitely come in handy.
I've been playing on 1.5.97 ever since this mod came out, it's been tremendous help.
smart! Same here. I am not about to let Todd try to f with us. Especially all the updates didn't make any impacts to the game. It is clear that they are just trying to break mods.
i had to rebuilt my PC but i didn't rebuild it in time before that update that screwed with the downgrade patcher, so now i have to get the game on GOG instead which is fine because bethesda can't mess with that version and it has no online capability and it's also on sale at 90% off for the next 3 months, but at least i will be peace of mind that version will never be fucked with unlike the one on steam.
So do you use mods for 1.5.97??? Or newest versions?
@@stlawstlaw7585 90% of mods work on 1.5.97.
@@5226-p1e Whats the difference between the GoG version and Steam version for playing with older mods? Here I was planning on buying a Steam Deck just for playing Skyrim on too. It's nuts. :(
When playing a game becomes a work routine and requires a modding PHD degree 😂 and IT levels of cmd command experience
if you get it running its satisfying though!
Yea...at least until you encounter some late game glitches or native skyrim bugs that make you think you did something wrong scouring through your load order removing mods till your save is screwed only to play without those mods on brand new and realize it was just skyrim being skyrim all along and then you quit out of frustration of losing your perfect run lvl 56 character..only to just repeat everything again in another month or so out of spite to play what you paid for🤣😂@@larryvansertima7095
Only in bethesda games
Sometimes i wonder if this todd plan all along
I used to run on 1.6.5.3 but I missed my Ultimate Combat animations, and actual boss fights, and downpatched to 1.5.9.7. Be aware, I’ve had my settings I PURPOSELY set to NEVER LAUNCH GAME UNLESS I LAUNCH IT, and when an update drops, my settings magically change to, “always keep my game up to date,” without my consent or knowledge.
Mine has done this twice now, and I only launch via SKSE. Last time, it was a Steam update that did it. Didn't even have Skyrim open
I haven’t even played Skyrim since it originally came out and I still found the video incredibly helpful.
mod creators need to start making their mods for 1.5.97, this is the only way to avoid updates
1.6.640 (or something like that, I don't remember perfectly) is fine as well, the anniversary edition is poorly monetized as an "upgrade" while just being paid mods, but they're kinda cool
almost all mods are working with 1.5.97
@@AtharvaThumbare I just had a new mod where the mod author had to tweak his/her mod so it would be recognized by 1.5.97. Without the header change, the mod esp was completely invisible to my Skyrim. He thought it was all my end till 3 or 4 others in the forum chimed in that the mod wasn't working.
@@AtharvaThumbare The problem is the new Creation Kit update. All versions of Skyrim SE/AE up to 1.6.640 use header version 1.7, however as of 1.6.1130 and the Creation Kit update that went with it, when an ESM/ESP/ESL is saved in the CK the header version gets saved as 1.71.
Essentially: Header version 1.7 can be used with all versions of Skyrim even ≥1.6.1130, however the 1.71 header version only works with version 1.6.1130 or greater.
Changing the header version is easy enough to do in xEdit, and someone even make a script to change the header version for you in xEdit if you're not sure where to look to manually change it.
@@Hardcrafter2807 Backported Extended ESL Support, use this mod
you help save my 200 plus hour playthrough.
When I heard about the update, I said to myself that I Wouldn't update from 16.4440. but then I found this Armore mod(it required an updating Skyrim to be able to see this armor in the game) So I updated 1.6.1130. Took me many hours and headaches until I finally got my Skyrim to work like It used to be. I'll not update my game anymore for any reason. I learned from my mistakes. From 600+ Mods down to close to 400. My game started much faster also.
so with 1.6.640 there is a mod that gives you the updated files for the new version so you don't have to lose any mods at all would highly recommended going back and getting the mod the name is Backported Extended ESL Support
Thanks for the information, but im happy where im at right now.
@@SanalliteSapling fair
Regarding the GOG version, like Steam, GOG has frequent weekly & quarterly sales. I picked up Skyrim SE, even the AE DLC/add-on during the last Xmas sale for under $15. So if you don’t have a pressing need right this second, and can hold off a purchase until a sale, you can get it fairly reasonably priced. Without the AE dlc I think it was under $10.
/\-----This.
Not watched you for long but i have come to enjoy when the weird little rabbit lady post something.
Huh, a rabbit, you don't say? Welp, still going to keep calling Koubitz a cat lady.
I switched to the GOG version a month ago and am up to a 106 mods list; I had been running over 300 mods before. I have at least temporarily lost many of my favorite animation mods but am still happy to be free of all the Steam/Bethesda garbage. Most mods will work fine on GOG, you just have to read first.
Thank you for being another channel to join us in showing people how to do this! I slapped one together back in December, but yours is definitely more well put together.
Thanks to you, i can finally enjoy my lover's lab mods again, my hero
Small detail I want to mention that I and only a handful of people experienced (which makes me this is an issue exclusive to 1.6.640), setting Steam to only update the game when launched, and then using SKSE no longer works as a bypass. It instead will instantly close the game, and try to update, which I couldn't help but feel that was intentional.
You can find a specific Steam manifest for Skyrim SE, and setting it to read only should let you use the SKSE method. Been using it now for a few weeks without issue
@@jargonbargo9667 Thank you, I'll have to try that next time.
omfg you saved me. i thought i was finally finna give up on skyrim . now im at my favorite version
This info is a big help. Just wish we had an option to do rollbacks like some games did back in the old days.
This is something I wish more developers would do, It's part of why games like Minecraft have stayed relevant for so long since you can always just go back to an old version to play your favorite adventure map or modpack.
@@MasterBroNetwork There is a LOTR Battle For Middle Earth Launcher that is available and they made it where you can change patches very easily with a click of a button. If Skyrim's Community were make something like that while still requiring a valid copy on steam and all, it would make a big difference especially for mod makers making mods using SKSE.
I personally just run regular skyrim, not SE or AE. Just Skryim. it's good, and it even has a separate category in Nexus so you don't have to worry about capability. It just works.
i commend the loyalty, but I cant live without the stability from SE with modding, I could never get LE to run smoothly.
I am new to this channel and i gotha say me gusta mucho😍 I also really like how you are "educational" on explaining things and fun at the same time:)
i am content that i found this channel and subscribed:)
one thing that helped me sort what caused crashes since i have 600+ mods is sort mods by category and disable them one by one and see what causes crashes or (ctd) i was surprised to know that a compass mod was causing all that fuss as it was secretly conflicting with *less intrusive huds*. everything went back to normal and for some reason even mods that didnt work started working too so i suggest changing load order for skse64 then sort mod by category next 👍🏽
Thank you for this. I stopped playing Skyrim for a bit to play games like Baldur's Gate 3 and came back to see Bethesda done fucked everything up again. I was using a massive mod collection too that was rendered basically useless. Probably won't play any Skyrim for a while(got the itch to play Oblivion again lmao), but I will definitely keep this in mind once I get back to it.
Thanks for pointing this out to people, it's been a godsend for me. It may be worth pointing out that the unofficial Skyrim special edition patch is now only available for version 1.6.1130+ on Nexus mods so it could be advisable to install this before you run the downgrade patcher.
there's an archived version of it
@@Aryan_H1where at
My dumbass on playstation who can’t get 90% of the mods for skyrim😂
I will help you go to war with Sony. 😤
Yeh Im with you there, but at least it isn't switch, they get non
@@drakonghost6967 I imagine Skyrim on a switch is…extremely toned down.
@@drakonghost6967 honestly I would be surprised if switch had any. Switch can barely run normal skyrim without exploding😂
your not, dumb, your just poor, i'm poor too, but i do have a PC, it's just old as hell by todays standards.
your speech alone at the start of the video made me suscribe. amazing content xdd
This work has reserved for you a place of great honor in Sovngarde 👑
I'm slightly shocked Bethesda isn't taking over the beyond skyrim project. Do you have any idea how much money they would make if beyond skyrim bruma costed money???
Same could be said of Skyblivion and Skywind. Saw a video on Skywind it looked good and they designing with levitation in mind.
Honestly, if that happened, I would buy it. Sure, I will be giving money to Microshaft for a games I already bought, but to support Skywind, Beyond Skyrim and Skyblivion, it would be worth it.
I will never buy a paid mod
Bethesda prefer to not paying them.
Don't give them any ideas!!!
Thank you I really approve your help and time you took to make this 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Very late to the party, I recently started Skyrim. Was boggled by some mod issues. Thanks for this vid!
While I recommend staying on 1.5.97, I do think it's worth upgrading to 1.6.1130 and then downgrading with the tool, using the "Best of Both Worlds" option.
That way you go back to 1.5, but keep the updated ESMs, which newer mods have dependency on and can use updated ESLs, which are actually the one good thing about the recent updates.
Thanks for the help, this was a very clear easy to follow video. Great job!
Thanks, Helpful Moddin' Rabbit. I set my manifest file to read only long ago, Steam lists Skyrim in my library but thinks I have not downloaded it. I enjoy that.
And thank you for your support as always!
I just started Skyrim modding again since 2015 and I was having so many combability issues when I found out the game was still being updated for some reason! Thank you so much for this helpful tutorial
the game crash after the logo after the downgrade. Resolved: I used the mod Backported Extended ESL Support - BEES-1_2.
Thanks for the video! While I have no compatibility issues with my mods with AE versions, I chose to downgrade the game for ideological reasons. What they did is sadly very bad!
I selected to read only the posters and the app so steam can no longer update it.
life saver
nice to see so many comments, keep it up Kou
Unfortunately, Steam and Bethesda now work hand-in-hand to screw you over; setting Steam to Never Update Unless Launched Through Steam DOES NOT WORK. Why? Because, despite ALWAYS launching through MO2, Steam CHANGED my Skyrim settings, right before a Skyrim update, causing the newest update to happen, against both my wishes and my settings. And, as evidenced by multiple comments on my entertainment-news channel, the same has happened to many others. This is Not a joke, Steam is now in bed with Todd Howard to screw you over.
This happened to me too!! Tried to play Skyrim and SKSE told me they didn't match my version of the game. I checked and sure enough, my settings were changed to always keep the game updated. 🤬
Thanks for the Skyrim mod video Koubitz 😊😊
Thanks for the video, I'm thinking of getting the game since there is a sale on a keyseller website for 10 dollars and i heard that the mods are where it's at, and i wanted to install any patches and whatnot for a unhindered experience, only problem is the whole system bethesda has with the game updates. so i'll definitely save this video for later. 👍
Don’t forget Backported Extended ESL Support for versions before 1.6.1130!
I'm subbing and never unsubbing because of the first minute and twenty seconds of this video.
Hopefully Helgari makes another patch, I'd love to learn from this and make a manual backup of Skyrim once and for all. This manifest downloading all seems pretty jank, unsure how stable my Skyrim ended up now.
such a solid guide. making a complex task to people like me who aren't familiar with all the tech stuff and making it easy to follow. thanks :)
i could not find the appmanifest mentioned in the video tho
The Sarcasm at the beginning is dripping so hard 🤣
Personally I use a modpack that reverts Skyrim to a specific version of Skyrim for that modpack itself. I love it for that reason as I don't need to worry too much about patches. I absolutely feel the pain though of everyone that has to deal with this.
thank you, i have been waiting for this
Ah, super helpful. I overlooked something so obvious. Thank you!
Haven’t played Skyrim in about 5 years, Nolvus the way to go from the get go? Also can anyone tell me is the steam community is the best place to stay up to date with things going on with the game or is there a good discord server?
My idiotic little brother started clicking random stuff on steam and launched skyrim. I'm making sure he never touches my PC again!
well last time i had to completely rebuild the game like for the 3rd time sigh this time i was covered no problems i thot until i took comp to shop to get some fams and power supply replace and tech tried to open game from steam.....but this seemed to have worked ty his has been saved by you
ty so much this fixed all my problems
Tried to downgrade through best of both worlds method. Got an entry point error. Good luck to everybody else.
Going to have to try this when I can, I didn't realize there was an update so when I used the second set without the first I broke the carriage sequence and deleted a whole chunk of ground in front of Solitude. It was so bad even verifying integrity (which forces you to update btw) couldn't fix it, I'll just have to start from scratch
1 and a half minutes in and i already like this content creator.
ya know, there _is_ an ultra secret double-agent way to get Skyrim SE 1.5.97 without having to re-buy the game, use special mods that can cause save game issues or weird steam console commands (which i didnt know you could do until now). but its a hidden in a chest at the bottom of the sea..
I did this a few days ago too, did the Steam hack and just downgraded back down to SE version 1.5.97. Every mod works on this version, and i never get any issues in comparison to AE which always seems to have issues with loads of mods.
I have seen people commenting that even if you disable the auto updates on steam
The option is being turned back on somehow…
I wish Bethesda could update their games in a much more less-aggressive way than current's. Great video!
I loved that intro lol
Blows my mind that a ton of people apparently didn’t know to just fucking disable Skyrim updates in Steam to avoid their mods breaking.
they didn't notice or ignore the news when the upcoming 1.60 release that day😂😂,
For anyone to lazy to type cant copy and paste, still copy each code by itself go back to the steam thing click the typying area and hit ctrl V
When the recent updates broke my 500+ modlist all I did was basically just downgrading to the version I've made my modlist for, yeah it's irritating, but not a big problem for anyone familiar with modding
Also for the GOG version, I think it's only compatible with skse dependent mods for 1.6.640 (because it does have fishing, survival mode etc.), so if you were planning on using mods that weren't updated past 1.5.97 for it you're out of luck.
1.5.97 forever. I have disconnected my Wifi every time before launch Skyrim and every one should do so. 🎉
Thank you so much, I finally got my game back to 1.5.97, and got some of my favorite mods to work. It was annoying, and we shouldn’t have to jump through these hoops, but I guess Todd hates us. Anyway thanks a lot. And I love that now they can’t update it for me anymore. That’s the best part.
Is there a chance that Bethesda could release updates for the game without causing mods to malfunction, or is it unavoidable? Cause all this work to avoid their updates breaking your mod list is really such a headache.
the constant updates keep me from coming back to modding just gonna go back to oldrim
That mod is indeed the best. I probably wouldn't play the game were it not for that mod...
I'm just done with Bethseda at this point, I'm not willing to touch anything being presently tampered with or made in the past 14 years by them. Fallout New Vegas or older from now on. It really sucks because I loved enjoying the mods people keep making, and I'll really miss Inigo... but I am so sick of Bethesda. As I'm getting older, collecting more responsibilities, I find myself having less time for bullshit like this.
this came in so much clutch
In some ways, the downgrade patcher is a combat mod. You're fighting the greed and incompetency of Bandithesda, and their overlords M$.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Soo I downgrade it back Ae 1.6.640 and it work the first time but somehow it updated it after a week later.. and I finally downgraded it yesterday, game works but when I load into my saved or start a new game, it just crashes after 7 secs, is there a way to fix it?
This notification made me smile :)
Thank you very much for the help! yay
Thank you for the video.
VERY helpful.
Peaceful Skies.
I always keep a backup copy of my Skyrim game folder just in case.
Was already doing this when i started watching this video, still gets a like from me :D
also- there i was thinking Bethesda couldn't have any more reason to feel shameful after Starfield...
Too bad the downgrade patcher hasn't been updated for 1.6.1170 yet.... And the depot method is incomplete; it doesn't cover the translations which need a fourth depot, different for each language. Also, don't use the 1.6.1170 version of gog skyrim yet, we're still waiting for skse on 01/23/2024.
Guess what. You can not stop auto Updates. Steam got rid of that, the lowest setting is update on launch.
I like chocolate.
I'm very happy somebody made a video like this but one thing that concerns me is I'm a console player and how am I supposed to fix the issues like that on my end that is if I have to
Thank you!!!
I have this spinning wheel of doom while playing skyrim that makes me unable to save, like i literally can't press save. I think its due to my mods
Maaaaaan at this point the best, most effective and also easiest way to save your mod list in Skyrim is to pirate the game.........
you know, since i first played skyrim in 2012, i wanted to enjoy it again. Yet im so overwhelmed by the amount of effort to just use some moding.... i just want around like 10 mods, but even that brings me to SKSE (that dosnt work), downgrading Skyrim, choosing wich skyrim since there are now 3 versions out there... i miss the times you just could drag drop them in to the mod folder and it would work 😭
oh wait. so downgrade from the newest update to the 1.6 update before that
THEN go to 1.5.97
go from 1.6.1170 to 1.6.1130, then use the patcher mdo
edit: Ok the patcher still isn't working. think I need to wait for it to update?
I waited for the files in steam to download
in surprised that they put skyrim on gog.
I wouldnt be so sure that rupert isnt the best mod...
Thank you.
Can't be bothered by Bethesda updates when I'm never using steam
Nope Rupert is still king, high king no less
I made a copy of my Skyrim se folder then updated the game so I have both before and after.
So I'm just going have to wait till the few mods I had that got broken get updated, well I've waited before, I can wait again.
Imagine making a game that people go out of their way to avoid getting the updates.
The method of changing the steam settings to not update unless you launch it doesn't work anymore. Either Steam or Bethseda has changed that. There was a video a few days ago I watched about that and I checked and sure enough my setting was changed. They change it constantly, no matter how many times you fix it. I think this is really disgusting. What saved my game was having it set to read only. I do agree that the best mod ever is the downgrader patch. I been using it since it came out. Also, best of both will work with all mods. Right now there needs to be another update for it. But yeah, best mod!!
Would Depot Downloader work to avoid updating the game too?
I've just been staying on 1.5, downgraded so I could play Sirenroot and The Cause.
6:18 ok i need to wait for all those to download by the looks of it, because only 1 pops up most of the time
Edit: it worked!
Got the script extender working now too. going to make the file read-only now
had to wait for it to download. my internet's slow
for future reference. i get it to 1.6.1130, then use the downgrade patcher to get it to 1.5.97
the game does not work at all after the latest "update" fail they did.
cant make a new character, black screen. cant load my old save. black screen.
What's the difference between downgrading from 1.6.1170 to 1.6.1130 and 1.6.640 if using the patcher eventually leads both versions to 1.5.97? Thanks!
Only real fix is playing the 2011 version, which I own and you can download the 3 DLCs free.
Thanks,Koubitz!
I found the best way to avoid Todd's shenanigans was to simply get a key for LE
Disclaimer for those who are trying to prevent steam from updating skyrim. If you do not have steam start up when you turn your PC on then you will need to make sure you turn on steam before you start skyrim from the SKSE exe. Otherwise steam will start up and begin updating skyrim while you are playing. literally just happened to me 10 minutes ago. Thanks steam for not also including an option to just prevent updating altogether if the player so chooses.
whats crazy is they reset users update preferences so it went from never to always update and it happned through skse as well