Why Americans are SO CONFUSED Over Which States are Southern | What is the South?
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- On this video we discuss the debate that persists among Americans as to which states are and aren't a part of the South.
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As someone that grew up in DC and MD, to this day, I'm convinced "Mid-Atlantic" was coined because nobody outside of this region could agree on which "side" we belonged to. I've heard New Yorkers refer to Maryland as "down south" and we already know what the deep south thinks of this region. There's no winning. We are everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
Being from Maryland I felt this whole comment
Yes, as a Northern Virginian, agreed. We are between and betwixt, Mid-Atlantic.
@@dcseainVirginia is not mid Atlantic , it's the South. Growing up I never heard of anyone saying we were Mid Atlantic. Seems like a politically correct term or something.
As someone from Arkansas, I always thought of Maryland as just an east coast state
@@chriscj71 the East coast is Maine to Florida
As a Southerner myself, ain’t no way anybody calling Maryland or Delaware “Southern”. I’d personally include Virginia and WV, but that’s not universal. Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida are as Southern as you can get except Miami, that’s really just Cuba outside Cuba
You can’t say all of Texas is. El Paso is about as Southern as Bangor Maine.
Plus, WV stayed with the North during the civil war.@@contingencyibct3120
Southern Illinois, southern Ohio, southern Indiana, the eastern shore area of Maryland are very southern areas in accents and culture.
They’re are many different southern cultures
Va, NC, Ga, eastern shore Md, SC and Fl have the Atlantic coast southern culture. Ga, NC, Va, Al, have the piedmont culture, La, Ms, Al, Fl, Tx have the Gulf coast culture, W. Va, KY, TN, Va, NC, Ga & Al have the Appalachian culture and Tx, Ark, Ok, Tn, Ms, Mo, Ky, La have that mid south culture. It depends on which part of the state.
But mid south, Atlantic coast south, piedmont south, gulf coast south and Appalachia are the major areas in the south everything else seems to be a merger of those areas and the areas in those states not considered southern still are mixture of that and non southern influence. Also southern influence have been adopted by non southern people to the point where things that were considered southern before aren’t anymore because non southerners use them as well especially slang, speech patterns and even accents oddly enough
I'm from Tampa and moved out of state, went back to work in Orlando, and it was kind of weird how Southern and Evangelical it was, like more than the summer I lived in Pine Mountain, GA. Central Florida is kind of surreal, all the state is, but Orlando in the 90s a lot.
I agree!! But West Virginia, I can’t. I see West Virginia as the “heart of Appalachia”. The many times I been to West Virginia and I was honestly experiencing culture shock rather than cultural familiarity.
As a Mississippian who now lives in D.C., I was surprised to find just how Southern a city D.C. is. Is it the South, no, but there are definite strains of southern culture that exist here.
That’s everywhere that’s north, people migrated
Yeah a lot of people in their 60s and older came from down south and started off their families in the DC area (and other major cities heavily populated with Black ppl). We're culturally not the south in DC, but we got heavy southern ties.
Most folks up north have Southern roots but the pace of places like DC and further North just has a faster pace
Bro even in suburban sf Bay Area I feel southern influence. Maybe cuz of the large number of blacks that came from that area in the earlier 20th century.
Is that strains or stains? jk
That map putting Delaware in the south is wild lol
Delaware is Yankee town and so is Maryland. I’ve been to Maryland and it’s very Yankee
@@angelacooper8973 Delaware is basically east Pennsylvania.
@@angelacooper8973 I lived in Maryland for a year and east Maryland is mid Atlantic for sure. However western Maryland feels pretty southern, I’m speaking culturally of course
@@user-tk1ht6wn3jNo, New Castle county is. Kent and Sussex counties are very much more Southern in culture.
I grew up and still live on the Delmarva/Eastern Shore and Delaware south of New Castle county is very much still Southern in culture. You can easily find Confederate Flag’s in Sussex county still. There’s still hints of the NorthEast but Delmarva is very much dominated by Southern culture. New Castle County in Delaware (it’s most northern county), is the only part of Delaware besides the shore that feels Northern. Even Middletown still feels like the South despite the boom.
As someone from the South, when I went the DMV area, it definitely felt way more northern than southern
I lived in Arkansas for 3 years (work) but grew up in NYC, one of the 15 Republicans from the city. Fort Smith Arkansas was the only DMV experience I didn't hate. I came in looking lost, right away a woman was like "Can I help you?" I said I needed Arkansas plates and I was like guided through the whole process. Didn't have one of the items I needed and they overlooked it (I assume because I was polite, asking people how their day is going gets you a long way sometimes) Was in and out in like 20 minutes.
@@Cruor34 Oh DMV here is DC, Maryland, Virginia, not that DMV lol
Definitely. Lived in the dmv for 4 years & it’s doesn’t give southern at all.
Every crappie big city in texas is just as marxist yankee as new york
Born and raised in DMV. DMV is NorthEast liberal despite not being in NE
I like a county-based view of the south. Southern Missouri and Eastern Oklahoma are far more 'Southern' than Western Maryland and Northern Kentucky, for example.
As someone from the bootheel of Missouri I agree.
me too, dare i say even a little bit of southern illinois and indiana can qualify
As a Western Marylander, I would agree.
@@willsmith3787 it’s always been said that Saint Louis is the northernmost Southern city. I’d say if you’re south of STL and Indianapolis, you’re probably in the South.
@@austingee238places south of Indianapolis still aren't southern
I grew up in South Florida. I remember going up to Northern Florida with a friend and his family to go camping in some of the natural springs. We went to a big lake and were swimming with the locals. The local kids from there heard us talk and our accent and heard the word "dude" and immediately asked if we were from California. I was so confused lol. I didn't realize the cultural divide even within the same state. But yeah Northern/Southern Florida are completely different beasts.
i grew up in north florida and when i visited miami it was a culture shock like hell. i get you.
Southern Florida is where most of the crime is.
Dude is a definite California term.
very true. The bottom penninsula and pretty much greater miami region is not like the rest. It pretty much turns into Cuba and Bahamas. The more north you get it's pretty much Georgia
If you base it on culture, which is really how I look at the South - then you can't exclusively use state boarders. I agree with you that Florida is a mix - transitioning somewhere around Ocala into something less Southern and into something unique. For Texas, it's really like 3-4 regions (big state) - Great Plains, West Texas, Rio Grande and East Texas (south).
There is also the hill country.
@leechjim8023 Culturally, I'd say West and South Texas are Southwestern, Plains and Hill Country are more Western, and East Texas including most of the Gulf Coast Plains are South.
@@wordforger agree with most of your comment, except for the Gulf Coast Plains, they are definitely not southern. Brownsville up to Houston has its own culture. Lots of ranching and hispanic culture there.
American alligators are found in the southeast United States: all of Florida and Louisiana; the southern parts of Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi; coastal South and North Carolina; East Texas, the southeast corner of Oklahoma, and the southern tip of Arkansas. Alligators have also been found in New Mexico, but it is rare.
I think this pretty much sums up what is the "south". any state that has alligators.
I absolutely agree with you that the south starts at Virginia and ends when you go into DC and Maryland. I was also born and raised in NC and yes, it is the south.
For me, once I get to Fredericksburg driving south on I-95, I'm officially in "The South".
@@contingencyibct3120 yes
They are always questioning NC as the South (likely from a political standpoint because it used to be a Purple state) but bullshit. NC is the South. Outside of the big cities, ten miles out is as rural as it gets.
My cousin and her husband live in Virginia and they both used to live in Maryland and they consider Maryland not in the South
There are places in Maryland that feel exactly like North Carolina or Virginia. You just have to get away from the DC region
I had a sociology class in college with John Shelton Reed, a professor who specialized in "the South". Based on a lot of different factors, like the ones you discussed in this video, he drew a map of the South with gradients of shading. The Deep South all the way up to North Carolina was the most "southern". East Texas and northern Florida were still largely southern, but south Florida and west Texas were hardly southern at all.
and Missouri by golly is a very southern state
@@davehughesfarm7983 it is not. The bootheel is all.
Yeah in Texas it depends o who you are talking about. Black people would most certainly identify themselves with the South, while Mexican people would find much more in common with the more Mexican influenced Southwest. White people in east Texas would also consider themselves southern while one in west or central Texas might not.
West Texas still has a strong southern and Texas accent. Yeah they are most definitely the South. Politically and socially they are much more conservative than New Mexico.
Where did Arkansas fall according to your sociology professor?
Being from West Virginia is a little silly in terms of the north/south argument. WV split from VA over slavery so most people here really don't like using the term south, BUT most people will agree we're definitely not northern from a cultural standpoint. Many of the people I talk to around here just call it Appalachia, and we tend to see ourselves as weirdly disconnected from other surrounding states, as if we're this secret 3rd option.
Not sure where in WV you are from, but I'm from Charleston and we consider ourselves "Southern". Culturally we do identify as "Appalachian"
I'm from the eastern panhandle. I'll admit I don't usually get that far down into the state, but I normally linger around Canaan Valley
I live in CLT and grew up in the DMV, this was such a comprehensive, accurate and thoughtful video, great job.
The "boundaries" of any given region simply cannot follow state borders. Even the historical civil war line is no longer entirely defining.
like how west virginia was distinct from virginia ecen before virginia
Maryland and Delaware can kiss our southern azz
Im from southern Illinois and we have a very heavy southern influence.
There's a Confederate memorial in Paducah, a city that was a major Union supply hub throughout the war. The Confederates raided the city a couple of times but never controlled it.
I discovered something interesting when I was following the path of the Mason-Dixon line, it runs about 5 miles south of Lincoln's home in Springfield, Illinois.
@@coryburris8211I believe Lincoln was born in Kentucky, the moved to Illinois.
As a native Floridian, I would agree that the further south you go in the state, the less southern in culture it gets. However, the interior portions of south Florida are more traditionally southern than the coastal areas. Good breakdown overall of the differences between N and S.
As a fellow Floridian I think outside of the Panhandle / Northern Florida our State has never been truly "Southern" in Culture. Our West coast is dominated by Midwesterners, East Coast by Yankees and Orlando is a mix of everything!
@@xoxxobob61He's right, though. Tampa and Orlando are not the interior he's talking about. He's talking about places like Myakka, Arcadia, Wauchula, Immokalee, and all the towns on the south side of the Okeechobee
@@xoxxobob61it depends on the west coast because I grew up in the central west coast of Florida and the counties there (Hernando, Citrus, and Pasco) would not get confused as being anything other then southern.
@@therambler3055 I agree. I think the natives(ie. And grew up in the “old Florida”) you can agree that any of areas you mentioned or areas outside the major cities are southern. I grew up in Polk county. We have a town in the county named after a politician of the confederacy.
@@xoxxobob61 Dare you to venture around Lake Okeechobee, the Everglades, northern Palm Beach county, Martin/St Lucie county, Brevard county, Lake county, Polk county, Marion county... all of these places you WILL find traditional southern culture. And no they are not in the panhandle. I tell people Florida is practically 6 states in one because it really is. There are 6 distinct regions of the state that culturally are completely different from one another. You have North Florida, NW Florida (panhandle), Central Florida, Southeast Florida, West/Southwest Florida and the Florida Keys.
This is an authoritative, fascinating, well-balanced channel with a great narrator.
This was a damn good video brother, keep makin content
As someone who grew up and still live in the Florida Panhandle, I definitely agree the Panhandle and everything north of Gainesville is definitely the south. Once you pass Gainesville the culture, population and infrastructure seems more northern. Those of us who live in Panama City often say we live in Lower Alabama rather than Florida.
I live in Panama City, FL having recently moved from Panama City, Panama 😂😂😂
@@ZeRo-bx7lphow accurate is the name for the Florida Panama City?
I'm from Pensacola and I agree
Ocala is a southern city as well and it's south of Gainesville. I would say southern culture starts disappearing after you go just south of Ocala.
Not really, all of Polk county looks like Gainesville 😂, I’m from Florida too, Duval tho, all of Florida looks the same. I definitely get what you’re saying but aside from Miami, Jacksonville, Tampa and Orlando… the other cities definitely give that “southern” feeling.
If your state seceded from this great nation, It's a Southern state
The confederate flag has 13 stars so.
That’s my shorthand. If it committed treason from 1861-1865 it’s in the South
We keep going the way we are and the South will secede again.
@@threefivesevenMissouri feels more like the South than the Midwest
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147 Of course they will. The South has never liked the USA
Thank you so much for this video bro! I'm born Brazilian, living in Brooklyn and with so many unanswered questions in my mind... well, not anymore haha I liked how simple, sincere and straightforward this video was about so much stuff. Definitely one of the most helpful videos I've seen in life. thks buddy!
Excellent job, Mike. You refreshed and sharpened my understanding with your historical references. I am not as well-traveled in the US as you are, but as a 60-year-old native Central Floridian, your commentary and opinions parallel mine without any disagreement.
People not from the South tend to think negatively about the South in general. So when they relocate to a place in the South, they justify it by claiming it is not actually the South. Mental gymnastics basically. Personally, I go with the Census definition; the South is not a monolith, its many things.
100 percent facts. The census definition is the geopgraphic south. People try to spin it into a culture issue.
Agree
Somebody on Twitter said Charlotte isn’t the south. The transplant was from Jersey or New York.
@@AuburnFanSince2010I remember being in Charlotte one time and being absolutely shocked at how the city just completely shut down at 6 pm. That skyline sure fools ya.
@@dirtycommie2877Wyoming and California both are the west (nobody would argue differently)but they’re completing different.
But Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia being different from the slower states like Alabama and Mississippi all of sudden it’s a discussion whether or not these states are southern.
I've always considered Texas as doing it's own thing, maybe with Oklahoma attached. Texas has it's own unique state pride and culture that feels very different from the more traditional south. Maryland, DC, and definitely Delaware are not really southern in any way anymore. West Virginia and Kentucky are probably the trickiest for me. West Virginia has more in common with Appalachian PA and Eastern Tennessee than the south or mid atlantic and KY is a mix of midwest, southern, and Appalachian culture. Florida is probably southern on average.
Florida and Texas are in league of their own. The upper south is more or less in the political and cultural sphere of north east, and the rest is the south.
Northern florida is south, while southern florida is south american/Caribbean and middle florida is a mess.
East texas and Houston are “southern” though. Well Houston not as much today as when I grew up but we do consider ourselves to be southern grown. The rest of Texas I wouldn’t call Southern at all.
The South starts at Virginia, ends at northern Florida, and stretches as far west as East Texas
@@nightpups5835 Central Florida or Orlando, Tampa, Lakelamd, The Villages, etc. are basically their own thing now
Great channel Mike, the map diagrams are helpful.
Great video!! Tons of cool
Facts. Excellent. Subscribed and shared!!
Grew up in Maryland. Yes its below the Mason-Dixon line, but very few Marylanders would consider themselves Southern. You hit a lot on the Civil War aspect but remember that Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri did not join the Confederacy though they were slave states. I don't know enough about Kentucky to say if its Southern or Mid-Western, but Maryland, DC, & Delaware are much more Mid-Atlantic with PA/NJ than Southern. Once you get out of the DC Metro heading south, that's the South. I knew tons of Virginian's with Southern Accents. Not so in Maryland. Also Maryland has a weird culture all its own.Thanks for the video!
Kentucky and Missouri did join the confederacy. That's why there's 13 stars on the flag. They had dual confederate and union governments.
I've been to Kentucky enough to say that at least parts of it are southern. Western Kentucky definitely has a strong southern accent and culture, although I've heard some people say that northern Kentucky lacks a southern culture. I think that in most of the border states, there will be a mix of southern and not southern culture
However, Maryland has a distinct lack of this in my view. The rural parts of Maryland don't feel southern to me, they just feel rural.
Kentucky only has a lack of of southern culture in the 3 counties near the top of the ohio river. And in Louisville. So 4 counties out 120.@@alexray230
@@alexray230Kentucky is by far the most southern of the four “border states” in my opinion, it’s not even really close, although there is some midwestern influence the closer you get to the Ohio River. I’ve always said Louisville is the northernmost Southern city and Cincinnati is the southernmost Northern one
Get south of Louisville and Kentucky gets southern fast !
A few years ago, some researchers found the new Mason Dixon line by finding the McDonalds that did not serve sweet tea. That line goes right through the middle of VA, just north of Richmond.
Lol.
They had sweet tea in White Marsh, Maryland. This is cap.
@@AuburnFanSince2010- They have Sweet Tea in Harlem, New York.
That was fake
If you think McDonald's Sweet tea is good then you've never had good sweet tea.
Excellent research and narration. Great work!
Thank you for this posting and all your other videos. Lots of fun stuff.
What’s a bit of a mind blower, is that the extreme southern part of New Jersey is below the latitude part of the Mason - Dixon line.
I've visited that place many times, total hick country. Seen Confederate flags flown there which blew my mind.
Neither Maryland Virginia or West Virginia are in The South. They are completely in the north.
@@Texan_christian1132 Go to Lynchburg, Danville, Farmville, or even just outside Richmond and tell me that aint the South
@@Texan_christian1132Virginia and WV are southern, not us Marylanders, DC, or Delawareans
@@mikeytaylorjrIt's not just the southern part of the state. The rural counties along the northern part of the PA border are also very redneck (I live in one of them).
But yes, geography does suggest that NJ is further south than people think. The entire state is located south of the southernmost point in Canada, which doesn't sound like a big deal but you'd be surprised by how many states aren't--for example, California/Nevada/Utah aren't. Did you know that the latitude line that forms those states' northern border is the same one that forms the long straight part of the NY/PA border?
And, yes, Cape May is just barely north of DC.
Cool video. Really well thought out and simplified enough to give detail without derailing from the overall topic. NIce stuff!
Sometimes TX and OK are considered part of the Southwest. I think you could split it culturally down the middle, the east being more wooded and similar to AR, the west half being more semi arid rolling prairies. It could also be considered being in the southern plains.
Excellent video Mike, and well-thought out! Probably the single most southern staple I can think of is the food, although my state of TX has its own staple foods somewhat dissociated from the rest of the South -- the BBQ it has in common though chicken-fried steak and Tex-Mex are also essentials for Texas. I enjoy a combination of all of them though, that is when I'm not eating fish... lol.
I've just as often heard Texas referred to as part of the Southwest as I have the South though I can certainly understand the case for both. Once I heard Fort Worth described as the place where the West begins (referring to both the US as a whole and the state of Texas). I've also heard the case made that certain parts of west Texas (i.e. the Panhandle) as well as the neighboring state of Oklahoma actually fit more into the Plains and/or Midwest.
Texas though tends to have what I would call its own culture. It takes alot of aspects from the south the west and tmmexico to create what I consider a different culture
Thanks, now subscribed. This is among the clearest and most-well articulated videos and explanations of which areas are southern. You're correct about politics not being a useful barometer, with it changing so easily. I would add cultures, mannerisms, accents, and of course climates and vegetation offer good clues.
From MD but have lived in the north and south. MD has very little in common south and I believe traditional southern culture really starts in Richmond now. Northern VA has lost it's southern culture..
It starts at Fredricksburg/ Culpeper
*in common with the south
*its (possessive pronoun)
it's = contraction of "it is" or "it has"
All contractions have apostrophes. Possessive pronouns never do.
I live in both Culpeper and Charlottesville, and the southern characteristics are leaning much more towards NoVA these days. Even FXG is becoming more "northern". I blame I95 in the case of the latter.@@MeadeFatLoss
@@WhoBeSilly Imo the real/ Virginia starts at Fredericksburg, even with the DC spill over, but it's not cut and dry. Winchester area feels Southern , and I was recently in Luray and the Southern accents were thick , even for me . So nova is really a mixed bag with pockets of Virginia left in the middle.
In my experience, the "southern culture" feels start past Chester. Like, Richmond has a lot of historical sites, but culturally feels more like nova's slightly chattier cousin than anything. Remove the historical elements and Richmond and above lack any sort of southern "charm"
Well done, sir; much food for thought in your discussion. Good presentation of different perspectives.
Thanks
Thank you sir, I incorporated your video in my homeschool lesson plan.
The South:
- Alabama
- Mississippi
- Georgia
- Tennessee
- Virginia
- Kentucky
- South Carolina
- North Carolina
- Louisiana
- West Virginia
- Florida (especially the north)
The DEEP South
- Alabama
- Mississippi
- Georgia
- Louisiana
- South Carolina
The Appalachian South
- West Virginia
- Virginia
- Tennessee
- Kentucky
- North Carolina
South/Midwest hybrid
- Missouri
- Arkansas
- Oklahoma
South/South West hybrid
- Texas
South/Latin America hybrid
- Florida (Cuba, PR)
- Texas (Mexico)
Definitely not the south
- Maryland
- Delaware
- Washington DC
Only far western NC is Appalachian, the coastal plains region is the lowland south.
i mostly like this
As a Kentucky native Im glad that you agree with me that Kentucky is southern. If Missouri is the "Gateway to the West", then Kentucky in my eyes is the "Gateway to the South".
@@baritone_vocalist absolutely! The only parts of Ky that seem midwestern are the greater Cincinnati area and maybe parts of Louisville. The rest is as Southern as Tennessee
West Virginia isn’t southern.
My parents were from Eastern and Central Oklahoma. They had Southern type drawl, although not as thick as some in the Deep South. Mom was a Southern cook (my California friends growing up loved to come to our house for dinner!). Religion was Southern Baptist. Mom told me as a little girl she remembered seeing "white" and "colored" drinking fountains and restrooms in Oklahoma City. Most of the state is to this day culturally Southern in many ways.
Driving across Oklahoma, I could see it being southern for most of the state but switching to Western or Plains around Oklahoma City westward. The funny thing is that culture really doesn't adhere to state lines very well - just like "pop" vs "soda" vs "coke".
Very nice video. Great job :)
Well presented. Hi from GSO!
Im a Virginian and Idefinitely consider myself a Southerner!
Ty for the great introduction to the south. Great vid!
As Oklahoman with Georgia, Alabama, and Florida roots your assessment is spot on. I lived in all of these places along with the Midwest ( KS, Missouri, and Ohio) you did a great job
best video on mapping I've seen !
I’m a Northern Virginian, and this region is solidly Mid-Atlantic/NE, and unlike elsewhere in Virginia.
Central Virginian- definitely the south here. The line is blurry but definitely somewhere between norva and Richmond.
I agree. I've been to the DMV numerous times and Northern VA feels like an extension of the Mid-Atlantic region because it's heavily influenced by DC since it makes up part of the metro area. Now the rest of Virginia is southern and isn't like the Mid-Atlantic region, culturally, linguistically, or politically. The Mid-Atlantic region today would be New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, and Northern Virginia. Once you get past Northern Virginia, you're officially entering the south, and Richmond is the first city in the south.
I firmly disagree. Nova is not northern . Leesburg, Warrenton, even old town Alexandria has a Southern feel. Fredericksburg/Culpeper is Southern too.
You don't represent all of us or speak for me
I live in Hampton the Roads, VA area. Strangely most people who moved from Georgia, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida o Virginia don't claim us as the South. 😂They group us with Maryland, Delaware and Pennsylvania. I believe it because in Hampton Roads aka (Portsmouth, Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Newport News, Hampton and Suffolk) many ex military settle here. We also have many people who moved from New York, Maryland and New Jersey. I'll just say
this area is unique because we have Air Force base in Newport News, Navy and Coast Gaurd Base in Portsmouth, Navy Base in Norfolk, Fort Eustis Army Base and Langley Air Force Base in Hampton and Navy Oceana Navy Air Base in Virginia Beach. People from all over the U.S.A settle here. This is what makes my area culturally unique.
Hampton Roads Virginia is the true MID ATLANTIC STATE.
SC born & raised here. Baltimore/DC area definitely has a Yankee feel. They could tell I wasn't from round these parts 😂
I have family from Maryland, and I will never consider them southerners.
Great documentary on the US south - very informative. 👍
Interesting points. Well said.
Nice one Mike appreciate your hard work to help us understand the geopolitical issues and questions of the us
The south begins on the east coast once you’re south of the DC suburbs as far as I’m concerned. It doesn’t feel like the south socially and culturally until you reach that point. There’s no way that Maryland is in the south. Maryland has more in common with Delaware and Pennsylvania than it does with Georgia or Tennessee.
Agreed on all fronts.
Simply not true at all. Maryland outside of DC is 100% southern
I’m surprised NC isn’t contested more. Every time I say I’m from the south, NC, I always get the same response “That ain’t the south!” 🤷♀️
Us along with VA, SC and GA started the south.
I love your videos!
Thanks for not bashing us southerners for all the things that make us a little different than other Americans. Keep up the good work. Oh and I live in Appalachia TN. The historical architecture, mountain views and kind people make it a safe and lovely place to live.
Hey, goofy southern guy, why would he bash the south when he's from the south and is just doing a video on which states are in the south complete with verified data? Do you southerners have to always be extra with everything?
@@TopBillinSportsNow I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or dead serious?
@@error3821 - ? Then you, too, must also be a goofy southerner like the OP.
@@TopBillinSports Troll
@@error3821 - Dude, stop commenting to me. You're about as dumb as a bag of flour. If you can't follow simple dialogue, I'm not the one to be commenting to.
you scared me so bad to see a satellite shot of my town looking down at my house suddenly show up on screen when discussing northern suburbs! haha
great video, love the insight. i always found it odd as a pennamite that maryland was ever considered southern. spent a lot of time in baltimore and could honestly be convinced i was still in my home state. the coastal culture reminds me a ton of jersey's, and i always saw the state as very northern.
delaware is without a doubt an extension of NJ and PA culturally to me, although i will say i've met people from delaware who have thick southern accents and swear they're southern. so i guess in the same way that virginia has very northern aspects in its urban centers and sort of gradually transitions throughout the state, there's areas in maryland and delaware that still feel very southern in their culture.
Lol, so you met a couple of people in Delaware with southern accents that meant something? My man, Delaware, especially the Wilmington, Newark, Christiana, New Castle area is little Philly. Same exact accents and tons of crossover with Philadelphians moving there for the lower cost of living.
I lived in Baltimore, and I live in South Jersey now, and I don't see many similarities. The food is way different and of course the accents are drastically different. South Jersey is also little Philly. All of our media is based out of Philly. And of course North Jersey is based on the culture of New York.
Virginia is Southern
Well now we all know where you live
@@ekothesilent9456 - Your point, weirdo?
@@TopBillinSports bro you have 28 antagonistic comments and replies on here calling people all sorts of things from “goofy” to “weirdos” to “ stupid southerners” you’re like those weird people who hang out at the subway and make it your goal to creep as many people out as possible. You realize anyone can click your profile and read everything you’ve ever written right? You and the original commenter really need to learn how to use the internet. That or your parents need to take your phone away. Clearly my point is that you people have no idea what proper internet etiquette is. Your digital footprint is very real and in your case it’s tied to your actual face and the inside of your home that you post here.
You are a TH-cam channel and the first thing anyone sees on your channel is your weird angry replies to everyone. Do better bro.
You are a very well spoken orater and I really enjoyed listening to you you sound very factual with your information about the south good work very interesting
I did not vote in your polls, but I agree with the results. There are a lot of transplants here in South Florida, mostly NY and PA, but that seems to be a growing problem in all of the South now.
If gentrification never happened in nyc most New Yorkers I believe would have stood home. But we are loosing lots of our
Puerto Ricans Italians blacks and
Jews to Florida. Now Russians Ukrainians Uzbek’s Dominicans & Mexican immigrants are dominating nyc also we have a high number of hipsters from the Midwest and Pacific Northwest that are dominating nyc as well.
NYC NJ Long Island are very high Taxes and Housing costs for Retired People. It's that simple. And many people want a warmer climate. Not me, I Love NYNJ Great area to Retire if you can afford it
I think it's difficult to necessarily mark any region of the US as distinct anymore. Because migration is such a common practice today, peoples customs become more dispersed and accepted within different regions. I do think that very rural parts of the US, where people tend to stay longer in the area they were born, can still retain many of those traits that define a region. This is why many poor rural areas of the midwest, have much stronger southern identities than most southern cities, even though they have no traditional southern ties at all.
The rural areas of the Midwest has southern identities because they're rural. Most of the south is rural. It's the rural identity that does that
I think this is only true if you think rural life and only it’s worst stereotypes are inherently “southern”. If rural poverty is the only commonality required then a large part of the entire world is culturally “southern”.
The more south you go, the more north you get. Florida is just retired New Yorkers. And Cubans.
and South Americans.
I was born and raised in Central Florida so I do feel like the southerness is still around in this area, at least outside of the major cities. You know the ones. Granted my mom and dad are from the Midwest and New England respectively so that is an issue, but there's alot of fast food chicken restaurants, sweet tea, churches, grits, and cajun food so that probably helps. Not to mention, I've definitely heard people speak a more traditional southern accent of some kind, though it is still kinda rare even in the more rural areas. That and a Tennessee girl moved down to my school for awhile with a thick Tennessee accent, wait actually that last part doesn't matter much. Also Outlaws, a southern rock band, is from Tampa, as well as Christian metal band Underoath. And Christian rock band Anberlin is from my home town of Winter Haven
I lived in Orlando for about 12 years (15 total in Florida). Gainesville is southern but Orlando is not. Tampa and most of SW FL is not but north of Tampa - yes. Daytona Beach northward is southern but Cape Canaveral south is not. Jax is home of Lynard Skynard - so very southern (basically GA annex). Basically, if you can unquestionable find sweet tea in every food establishment - you're in the south. It is hit-or-miss, it is a transition zone.
Growing up in Oklahoma City, I always felt that the state tried to align itself more culturally with the "Western" image - cowboys, ranchers, rodeos, and such. We had the Cowboy Hall of Fame and our theme park was Frontier City. Having now lived in just about every corner of the state, I feel like Oklahoma is at the merge point of the Southwest, the Midwest, and the South.
I also grew up in OKC. We are very southern in culture. We are nothing like the southwest or the Midwest. That doesn’t even make sense to me. I have worked in phone customer service for 30 years and the cultures and attitudes are so completely different depending on the region. I definitely prefer clients from the south. My clients from TX, OK and AR are by far my favorite. So chill and relaxed. Louisiana is an exception. They’re kinda hateful. KC and STL are the absolute worst. Especially STL. I’ve never dealt with a ruder more nasty and hateful group of people in my life. My current group of clients are all southwest and Pacific Northwest (CA, AZ, UT, WA). They’re chill until either , A) there’s an issue and then they freak out or B) I tell them I’m in Oklahoma and all of a sudden they automatically hate me.
@@staceystitches I agree that culturally parts of Oklahoma, particularly in the SE, are more in line with the South. There is a reason that McAlester born Carl Albert was known as the "Little Giant from Little Dixie." And our cuisine definitely has some Southern influence, especially things like okra and "chicken frying" everything. However, we also have our fair amount of Tex-Mex, which is definitely more Southwestern in culture, and our BBQ is more similar to Texas and KC styles than what you would find in Alabama or the Carolinas. And as I said in my initial post, our state is closely tied with Western imagery and cowboy culture. (When I say Western, I'm referring to cowboys and ranches, not West Coast culture, which is something completely different.) Almost every single major cattle trail ran through what is now Oklahoma. We historically have had and still have a bunch of rodeos. OSU's mascot is the Cowboys. Arguably, the most famous restaurant in the state is Cattleman's Steakhouse located in an area of OKC called Stockyard City. These are all items that are culturally "Southwestern" and "Western." They also bleed more into aspects of the Midwest. Every OU home game features the Sooner Schooner, which is a wagon that was used to settle the Midwest and West. That and the Sooner name, along with the phrase Boomer Sooner are associated with land runs, and while those are fairly unique to Oklahoma, they evoke more of the pioneers of the Midwest than the people of the South. Alongside our ranches we also have a lot of farms, and the style of farm here in Oklahoma is very much the type you find throughout the Midwest.
So as I said before, we are blend of all of the above.
Very Midwest is Oklahoma.. Oklahoma reminds me of like Idaho and Montana nothing like Georgia or Florida etc…
@@Rob_unouh no lol. Oklahoma seems to me like Mississippi, texas, Arkansas etc
@@kennypowers1945 lol he’ll nah it’s nothing like that just flat land and cows like Idaho and Montana
What an awesome video. Great unbiased, neutral coverage of the history. Very informative.
There was a great essay by John Shelton Reed /decades/ ago about this, and while his answer involved looking in phone books, he suggest a good enough answer that’s very easy to apply:
Does kudzu grow there?
And when you look at a map showing that line, it’s pretty accurate.
I grew up in OK and western AR and I can say that my culture there was definitely southern. Ended up moving to Central Florida and stayed there for nearly 30 years. The panhandle and upper third or so is southern. Even Central Florida is peppered with southerners enough that you can get a feel for it especially in the more rural areas. But there are enough "snow birds" and "transplants" in Orlando and the coastal areas to divorce them from their southern title. Miami has such a large Hispanic population that it's culturally its own unique entity. Next I lived in southern CA (LA) for about 5 years. Now I'm in rural NC. My time in Cali taught me that you can take the girl out of the south but you can't take the south out of the girl. As for TX, I'd say it is also culturally diverse and would have to be broken up into regions. But just generally speaking, yeah, southern. Definitely not Maryland.
i remember this debate happening all the way back in the 1850s!
Help You remember !?!😭
Great video, with just one thing to point out:
Texas is not Hispanic mainly because of immigration, but due to its origins as a Mexican state. As our cousins say up there: We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us. 🤣
Misinformation. Mexico struggled to have their people settle Texas so the overwhelming majority of Hispanics are there due to immigration. Although I agree with that sentiment in California
Very true
That ones kinda meh. Yea It was part of Mexico for 15 years after getting grandfathered from Spain. But there was only few thousand Mexicans living up there. Which they got quickly outnumbered as soon as they allowed gringos to come in. I get what you saying but it wasn't like some vastly populated region with a lot of historical significance in pre Spanish Mexican history. Most of the Mexican population there today is due to immigration.
@@MissCleo24 yes many Mexican and Spanish settlers were afraid to settle in what was then Texas (i know that's not what you meant but it also applies) because they were vastly outnumbered by the Comanches/wichitas and other northern native American nations. Old historical Mexico never and i mean never had control or vast settlements in Texas or even most areas north of the Rio Grande. This image you're trying to portray of the fact that some Mexicans and natives share same similar skin tones and genetics does not mean they liked One another. Read up on the legendary Apache leader Geronimo. He literally hated Mexicans more than anything. Apache and Mexicans went to war like crazy and hated each others guts. Mexico had 100 peso bounties for Apache scalps. They even caught them and used them as slaves. In 1821 once Mexico got independence and inherited Texas only around 3500 Mexican settlers lived in the whole of Tejas, concentrated mostly in San Antonio and La Bahia. As soon as Mexico opened up immigration for Anglos, they were quickly outnumbered and Anglo Americans within 16 years declared Texan independence. Why because Mexico never really had a large foothold in the northern edges of what even today's modern Mexican border is. My argument isn't a anti Mexico, Pro US one. It's more the native nations around the southwest historically did not mix much with the heart of pre Spanish Mexico people's. Mexican empires of the past and Mexico's historic heartland was further south in central Mexico, not up north. The north didn't get settled until the Spanish came forced/encouraged settlement further north. Majority of the Mexican population into the southwest US occurred after US took over and they came for work and settled. Mexicans before or after the Spanish very sparsely ever ventured far north of modern borders.
Everything from South Carolina to California used to be hispanic (Mexico 🇲🇽) that's what the mexican/American war was fought over expanding territory.
I grew up in Oklahoma. I moved to Tampa right out of high school. I was told that I spoke with a western twang.Ironically, after being in florida for 10 months I had to go back for my grandmother's funeral. I was shocked. I could hear the difference myself. I DID NOT like what I was hearing. I don't think of Okahoma as the south. It's more southWESTERN to me.
I've always thought this about Oklahoma but I'm from Georgia. I've lived in Oklahoma and experienced the difference immediately
I grew up in Florida, have family in California and to them I have a Southern accent.
The Indian Territory region of Eastern Oklahoma is coined Little Dixie because of the federal government moving the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Muskogee, Cherokee, and Seminole nations. Indian Territory was also a CSA strong hold due to the reparations and the ability to move back to the homelands if they CSA actually gained independence from the US. Fort Towson, for example, was the main CSA fort in what is now known (since 1917) Oklahoma.
Thing is some parts of Florida have just as much of a twang, just a different flavor. In my high school there would be kids from the same town some who spoke with the standardized east coast white accent and then guys who had full blown southern redneck accents.
I agree. I grew up in the bootheel of Missouri and used to date a girl from Edmond Oklahoma, they was shocked with my accent
thank you!! Well, well done! I am a New Yorker from Brooklyn and as soon as I had a car at 17 I drove all over the South first and then moved westward and north. What a beautiful country we have and what incredible accents. i love it all. The only issues I had was my license plate in the South...i was stopped often and given a lot of shite about NY but i made friends anyway. Your video was informative and exactly how I saw the country. 👍👍👍👍 However, i had a co-worker in NYC who had a small toyota truck whose tag said "Texas Truck" and when I said, "I didnt know you were from the South" she exploded, "I am not from the South, I am from Texas. Never said The South again. 🤩
Great video.
Boundary of The South: VA South of the DC Metro, Southern half of WV, kentucky south of louisville metro, southern MO, western edges of AR and LA, FL Panhandle + Jacksonville.
In my opinion, I like interstate 64 as the north-south divide. That said the north-south divide seems to continue pushing south especially by DC. It seems surprisingly accurate to what I wanted looking for some existing line. West Virginia is in my opinion, aligned with southern values but Appalachian as is western Maryland western Virginia and other areas
Hanover County is north of I-64.
That does work because south Illinois and Indiana are not Southerner. Maybe where I-64 meets the Ohio river
Fun fact... look at all the major interstates of the US... going from west to east, all the interstates running north/south end in a "5"... i-5, i-15, i-25, i-35... starting in the south and moving north, all interstates running east/west end in a "0"... i-10, i-20, i-30, i-40...
@@TheJuanqui1 south Illinois cities such as Anna and Cairo feel pretty southern
Born and raised in MARYLAND(PG COUNTY to be exact) and growing up I've always been taught that central to southern Maryland is definitely the south!
MD is not the south. Not culturally and not geographically either. The south ends once you go north of Richmond, VA.
@@thedirtybubble9613 nah, Maryland is in the south…I’m from the 7-5 and my people been in MD for centuries. Rest y’all bammas come from Carolina somewhere trynna act like it’s “up north” smh
@@757CitiesReppa because you are up north. MD has more in common with Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware than it does with the rest of the South. That's not a bad thing either. MD has a good education system and a good healthcare system.
@@thedirtybubble9613 i am not up north …what are you talking about? South Jersey yeah, maybe…the parts Maryland border Pennsylvania aren’t influential to Maryland. Like I said my family been in Maryland for centuries. Maryland is in the Mid Atlantic and belongs and IS in the same space as Virginia…didn’t say “the rest of the south”…because “the south” isn’t even similar to itself…and never has been.
@@thedirtybubble9613wrong
Thank you!!!!! I been telling people that Maryland, Delaware, Florida and Texas are part of the south. Maryland and Delaware folks got country accents like my aunt who’s from Delaware.
Country =/= South
Richmond and points south. I remember there used to be a giant “stars and bars” flag along I95, that was usually the signal for me
I enjoyed this video! I’m from Arkansas I lived in Texas for a couple of years! Even those states are vastly different!
New subscriber great video
I agree. My definition of the South is the same as yours - Census definition *minus* DC, MD, and DE.
A lot of the confusion comes from the fact the government doesn't have an official stance on regions. Yes, each department within the government has it's own official definitions but there is no umbrella definition, each department uses regions that logistically makes sense for it's purpose. FWIW I say from DC/Maryland north is the Northeast with Virginia south the Southeast.
As someone who grew up in southeastern VA(Norfolk area) I Agree you start to feel the change when you get to Richmond area. Ive always throught the test was where I could find Southern sweet tea( like made in the restaurant ).
As someone who is from NYC but have spent most of my life in Charlotte NC, but would drive back multiple times a year, i agree with you.
I was raised in PG county Maryland and would occasionally see family in southern VA. It's a complete culture shock from what I was accustomed to. Even going from DC to Bmore is drastically different.
Baltimore and D.C. are similar if you've hung out in both.
New Balance, similar slang etc.
D.C. is just more upkept and gentrified, but the factors most of you are typing don't define North or South especially in a modern world where robots and A.I. are becoming the now internationally.
You siced drastically different
Personally, in my opinion, I think every state (except for Maryland, Delaware, and Washington D.C.) that the US Census Bureau defines as “southern” are a part of the south.
I know states like Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and even Missouri at times are debated as being southern or not. However, the way I look at it is Virginia is very much a southern state outside of NOVA and the DC area. West Virginia and Kentucky are more Appalachian in culture, but they are still southern in a lot of ways. Texas and Oklahoma are a weird mix of southern, midwestern, and western, but most people I have met from those states identify as southerners. Florida is very much a southern state until you hit southern Florida (like Miami area).
I think Missouri is not a southern state. Culturally, it is similar to the south, but it still has that Midwest vibe and feel to it as well as when you look at its location on the map of the USA.
The other states (North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas) are undeniably southern.
Lol why do you people think Kentucky is appalchian? 1/4th of the state is mountains. If you think applachia is a region then you agree that Western MA has things in common with Nothern Georgia. It's flat and they grow cotton in the western half. South-Central Kentucky is all tobacco farms with rolling hills. Central Kentucky is where the bluegrass slave planters lived. Northern Kentucky and Louisivlle are a mix-mash of northern and southern culture.
Sigh....WV seceded from Virginia specifically to stay in the North. I am a yinzer and have nothing in common with anyone in Kentucky.
Kentucky is most definitely the south.
Horses. KFC. Corvettes. Louisville slugger. Rum, Bourbon, and Whiskey. Moonshiners. Hatfield - McCoy feuds. Colonial style houses. Bluegrass music origins. Coal mining culture. And tobacco farms.
Oh. And the president of the confederacy was from Louisville and 90% of Kentucky soldiers fought for the south.
… But we aren’t “southern”, right? We created a big part of this culture.
There are 3 rules that apply here to determine what is a southern state.
1) is there a piggly wiggly in your state?
2) is Duke’s mayo easily acquired in your grocery stores?
3) do restaurants serve sweet tea?
Florida and Texas are slightly different. Central Florida and the panhandle are the south. In Texas, you have to be within 3 miles of a paved Ranch or Farm to market road.
4. Is there a Waffle House in the area.
I like your Polls ....... more TH-camrs need to emulate that.
Thank you for covering subjects I can’t talk to my friends about I appreciate you sir.
When I visited Louisville a few years ago, some locals I was talking to at a bar described their city as the Portland of the midwest and the city certainly feels more midwest than the south. But it is on the northern border so of course there's going to be some overlap.
If you go a little bit south and east of Louisville, it gets southern real quick.
Louisville is a river town like Cincy. It's both. Get north of Cincy and it gets midwestern fast. Same for get south or east of Louisville and it gets southern quick.
I've heard it said that Louisville is the most northern Southern city OR the most southern Northern city.
I drove from my very Midwestern city in Michigan to Louisville in 2016 and had the pleasure of witnessing 2 shirtless white guys with long-ish mullet-like hair arguing outside of a gas station. There was a small crowd forming but it never came to blows. That is what Louisville is to me.
Louisville is the most Northern Southern city and Cincinnati is the most Southern Northern city.
The South is:
All of:
Mississippi
Alabama
Louisiana
S. Carolina
N. Carolina
Georgia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Most of (90%+):
Kentucky
West Virginia
Virginia
Eastern half of:
Oklahoma
Eastern third of:
Texas
Southern third of:
Missouri
Northern third/half of:
Florida
Very tip of (10-15%):
Illinois
Panhandle of:
Maryland
Well done mileage mike!
Thanks
Southerners aren’t confused about the boundaries of the Deep South and the south. It’s only cultural outsiders that I find to be confused. A coworker of mine from CA said that CA was southern 😂
😂😂😂
California is not southern! Bless his heart.
An old West Virginian Geography Professor and friend divided West Virginia into midwestern, northeastern, and southern states and I as a sixth generation West Virginian agree!
I’m from New York and growing up Maryland down was considered the south but when I started travelling further south I see how the dmv area is so different.
Very well done
I remember the early '80s book "The Nine Nations of North America", by Joel Garreau, which subdivided the continent into distinct cultural/geographic areas that didn't necessarily conform to political boundaries. In that book, he put heavily Spanish-speaking Miami in "The Islands" (the Caribbean) while the rest of Florida went to "Dixie". Texas was split into three areas, Dixie (East), "The Breadbasket" (North and Central), and "Mexamerica" (South/border areas).
Subsequent books about regional geography tend to adjust Maryland, DC and Northern Virginia into what Garreau would call "The Foundry" (the industrialized East Coast/Midwest), and restrict the Florida part of Dixie to the Panhandle and Jacksonville. What they would put Central Florida in, I can't really figure out. Texas likely has that same three-way split, with different borders depending on external and internal migration.
BTW, the only region Garreau kept the same as its political border was Quebec.
No, Virginia is part of Tidewater and Greater Appalachia
I'd say you draw a line south of Gainesville and Daytona. Gainesville and Daytona are in the south, no question. Orlando though? Ehhhh
I'd split Oklahoma as well, from say highway 75 east is part of the south, west of that it's kinda Midwest, and far western Oklahoma is desert Southwest.
Loved that book. From Arkansas, lived in Wisconsin for 4 years. Found the divisions matched my experiences. Look at also, The Day America Told The Truth. Their divisions were close, and based on survey answers. They stayed in the US, and ended up splitting the South and the Mid-Atlantic.
I’m familiar with that map, I call bullshit. The “breadbasket” is an agricultural region, not a cultural region. Dakotans and West Texans are not part of the same cultural group.
In my opinion, US Route 60 as the north-south divide. That said the north-south divide seems to continue pushing south especially by DC. It seems surprisingly accurate to what I wanted looking for some existing line. West Virginia is in my opinion, aligned with southern values but Appalachian as is western Maryland western Virginia and other areas.
Fun fact... look at all the major interstates of the US... going from west to east, all the interstates running north/south end in a "5"... i-5, i-15, i-25, i-35... starting in the south and moving north, all interstates running east/west end in a "0"... i-10, i-20, i-30, i-40...
Try a little higher, bud.
Grew up in the St. Mary's county of MD and it definitely identified as southern while I was there, but there are a lot of transplants for the Navy / Def industry that are changing things. There are quite a few families there that track back to the 1700's (or earlier) and the past still lives in the local culture. Outside of that county heading towards DC things quickly get more Mid-Atlantic.
Florida is actually 3 different states in one: Southern Alabama, Disney world, and Northern Cuba
So North, Central, and South Florida
I think what makes defining what the South is as a region is so difficult because many people, mainly Southerners, focus way too much on state lines, politics, urbanization, and slight cultural differences between Southern states. Many Southerners often view the South as too much of a monolith.
For example, just because Texas has more Southwestern and Hispanic influence than other places in the south doesn’t make it not Southern. The state historically has been settled by Southerners, seceded from the Union, and has always aligned itself with the South politically and socially. Everything east of San Antonio I would say is still comfortably southern, mainly because the culture of East Texas/the Texas Triangle is still influenced heavily by traditional Southern culture, despite Texas having a strong subculture of its own. Central Texas and West Texas along with the panhandle and the Rio Grande Valley are definitely not Southern, although they do have Southern influences. You can’t really define a region entirely based on state lines, and regional lines are often much blurrier than we think.
I also think a lot of people confuse the Deep South with the rest of the South. The Deep South (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina) is a subregion WITHIN the broader Southern US. It’s not the South itself
Only South and West Texas are not Southern rest of Texas is sure more western influences than the rest of the South considering it's geography
New Jersey born and bred. Live in New York. Have done the drive from New York to Florida several times and been in every single east coast state. That being said i completely agree with you - to me once I passed DC and toured Fredericksburg, just north of Richmond, I started to feel the southern charm. While Richmond is a "bigger" city, it certainly felt more like it was trying hard to be part of the northeast moreso than it actually was. To me, anything south of DC is for sure the south. And I would even have no issues with anyone saying DC can start the south as well...
I’ve also been to all east coast states, up and down lol. Once I get out of Virginia I do feel that shift, it’s hard to explain. As someone who was born in Kansas, moved to Wyoming for a short time, I can’t vouch on any of that because I was to young to remember 😂 but I lived in NH for a really long time before moving near the eastern coast of NC, (about an hour from Raleigh) and the shift of almost as north as you can get to middle south was insane for me. I do miss the north very much so enjoy the snow if you get any (I literally haven’t seen snow in like years help lol)
How did old axx Richmond SEEM like it was trying hard to be northeastern😂😂😂😂yall people a say ANYTHING
I think geography and climate has as much impact as anything. The portion of Oklahoma that is in the Ozarks is very southern cultured. OKC is more like NM and TX culture, and Tulsa tends more Midwest. These 3 climates are very different and play a big role.
Eh okc is its own thing. Southern Oklahoma feels much different than okc and Tulsa.
Great video. An I agree with your opinion sir.
Here are the states I consider to be part of the South:
Alabama
Mississippi
Lousiana
Eastern half of Texas (other half is in the Southwest)
Arkansas
Southern half of Missouri (other half is in the Midwest/Great Plains)
Kentucky
West Virginia
Virginia (although Northern Virginia is arguably part of the mid-atlantic region)
Tennessee
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Northern half of Florida (other half is it's own thing, closely resembles the Caribbean)
Why certain states are not part of the South:
- Delaware, Maryland and Washington, D.C. do not resemble the South at all and are part of the Northeast or specifically the Mid-Atlantic.
- Oklahoma is part of the Midwest/Great Plains.
Oklahoma is part of the southwest
@@KristNi Oklahoma is midwest.... the reason why people want to consider oklahoma apart of the south because oklahoma has southern culture mentality and also the dumb republican party wants to twist and distort facts about Oklahoma. When I was growing up in Oklahoma in the 80's, early 90's... we always referred to it as midwest even in schools growing up. However, after republicans controlled the state around early 2000's up until now... they twist it to make it seem like it is apart of the south.
@@tropicalbeach9225 I can tell you grew up in the OKC area lol. Eastern Oklahoma is part of the south. The middle part, from say highway 75 west is Midwest, and west of OKC is really part of the Southwest.
@@tropicalbeach9225 Oklahoma is the damn south there is nothing mid west about it. And Southern Missouri is not the damn south I’ve been there in Springfield it’s just country
@@bluecyclone7077 Easy there cowboy, Oklahoma is the midwest and originally a democratic state. The only reason why people consider it a Southern state is because of politics and culture. Oklahoma will always be midwest and nothing they do can change it. Southern states would be like mississippi, georgia, alabama, florida, tennesse, arkansas. Oklahoma is a big state and we should change the culture because adopting the southern culture is making fools belief it is a southern state.