Everyone when they saw ice king at the start of the show: oh it just some pervert who kidnaps princesses Everyone after knowing his backstory and how the crown works: He has the saddest backstory in adventure life and is more complex than we thought…
If simon went to the bus with betty, he wouldn't have found the crown, he would probably live a happy life with betty but eventually die with her because of the mushroom bomb, and he doesn't have the crown to protect himself or betty (at least he got to live with betty), marceline wouldn't be raised by simon so she becomes evil and doesn't kill the vampires, human race goes extinct because of the vampires, finn isn't born (which is a really important thing because he is the embodiment of good), the lich emerges and without anyone to stop him he succeeds. Simon is a catalyst comet.
This is actually really interesting since the yellow comet, that orgalor wants to absorb, hits earth successfully Everyone theorized that the comet is actually jake but tbh that comet belongs to Simon imo
So there’s an unofficial translation of what the bus says. Someone supposedly used the enchiridion in the show and translated the bus’s destination as “comet”. I say supposedly because idk much about it and apparently the enchiridion cipher isn’t reliable(?) idk. BUT if it’s correct, I wonder what that means.
@@UncleMofo24this is misinformation. no one actually source that. someone just said it and it keeps getting spread everywhere. it’s gibberish, you can’t actually translate the bus.
I really appreciate Finn being one of the only people who tried helping Simon as soon as he noticed he was unhappy. I'm sure Marcy would have too but it is very meaningful for Finn who used to beat up Ice King on the daily, to be Simons good friend helping him get out of his funk, or at least trying to even if it was unsuccessful.
My favorite part of the original adventure time was how as time went on Finn would start referring to ice King as Simon more and more often after he learned the truth
@@traveler5562 No yeah that was nice, and in the episode where Finn gets those magic eyes it shows that at that point in time he only sees Ice King as Simon
Man the producers really know how to get in touch with their viewers. It's like they know the kids who grew up watching it are now depressed Edit: Jesus christ, I can't believe my comment attracted some loses telling people who's allowed to have depression and who's not
Not much would have changed, Simon would probably still find the crown. If anything the crown saved both of them from being killed in the mushroom war, which means marceline could save the humans.
@@Seba12322 The bus scene itself is in their minds, but what I meant is: What if Simon didn't interrupt getting on the bus with Betty by saying "this isn't how it happened" and instead followed her onto the bus? Like would he in someway stayed with Golbetty?
@@memescoffee3173Hell it’s crazy that this is the same _character_ we started the show with. I never, not in a million years, would have anticipated that Ice King would be one of the most tragic, layered and nuanced characters I’ve seen in all of fiction.
the way simon has lived the most incomprehensible, unrealistic life and yet he is still relatable because at its core, his problems stem from very real issues and basic character flaws (i.e. no sense of purpose, stuck in the past, full of regrets, one-sided relationship with betty)... the writers did a spectacular job on this show
@@LR-jo7ciI mean, making mistakes, wishing you could have done things in the past differently, mishandling a relationship, going crazy, etc is pretty relatable scenarios.
@santana7827 i was referring to how fionna & cake explored the imbalance in simon & betty's relationship, and how simon was too focused on himself to be a good partner to betty! should have probably picked another word haha
Adventure Time is a great case study for good writing (especially for fantasy and fiction in general). Its massive and expansive and seems larger than life but at its core it houses the same issues we encounter in everyday life. It just exaggerates them to keep things interesting.
It's just so crazy to me still even after all this time. I remember being a kid thinking ice king was just a silly gag character then they went and showed my little kid brain that people can have REAL horrible problems that I had no idea were taking place. This show taught me a lot about empathy and forgiveness. Simon is probably the best written character on this show and it's awesome we got to see him resolve his issues.
It’s nearly impossible for someone to relate to Simon at all. He went through more trauma than anyone in any show, and to now he still struggles to cope with his past
Honestly my biggest complaint with the show is how they set up Simon not talking to Marcy in the first episode, then in later episodes explain how important she was to him and vice versa. Only for them to never show him opening up to her or at least hanging out in the finale
No hablo con ella, pero al igual que con muchos sentia que no era importante para ella, hasta antes se mostró que creia que no era importante para ella, pero me gusto como se dio cuenta por el multiverso que sin el estaria estancada en un mundo que solo le traeria muerte. Tal vez no lo hagan directo pero se nota que Simón si fue importante para ella
Honestly? It feels so incredibly weird to talk with a parental figure about their mental health, for both parties I'm sure. I totally get why Simon didn't get Marceline involved in it.
Part of me prays that they're saving it for future content because it's so incredibly confusing to me that they didn't even had her make a non-speaking cameo during the final montage, I highly doubt such a thing would've taken more effort than some of the scenes they did include.
“Every day is just an unending slog towards…towards….what?” I remember watching this series when it first premiered, i was in middle school. Now im a full fledged adult. Have a stable job and just got my own apartment not too long ago and now i find myself asking that same question everyday :( This series has done an absolutely phenomenal job growing with its audience over the years.
Hello! I'm just a stranger on the internet, so I doubt I can provide some insight that will genuinely help, but I'd love to at least try! Truth is, there's nothing specific that we're heading towards in life. I think trying to find that 'big thing' will only drive us mad. We live to survive, to see tomorrow, but we forget that now is more important. Sometimes when I feel like I'm in a cycle, I stop to think about now. Sometimes I'd go outside just to watch the stars, Sometimes I'd stare at the clouds or appreciate the pond a bit more. Sometimes I concentrate on the feeling of my clothes and my babygirl's purring. Sometimes I just experience a little harder in the present, and it feels good. There will be times where you're stepping towards something big. Then there will be times where there's nothing happening before the next big thing happens. But what's really neat, is feeling the moment, and appreciating what's so easily ignored nowadays. It's corny, yes. But I love those moments of clarity, stepping towards nothing so i find myself wanting to experience everything
@@Akalimall we’re stepping towards is death. Sounds edgy, but it’s true. Most of our lives have no impact on anything. Nobody will remember us 50-100 years down the line. You can try to find some meaning in life but in the end it’ll all be ‘dust in the wind’ (good song by the way.)
If anyone watched Madoka Magica, Simon and Homura are the same person. Going through about 1000 years of trauma to try to save your loved one from becoming God to the point of insanity
The difference is tht homura could have won if she persisted longer, madoka's witch form grew bigger, stronger and more powerful every time homura went back and placed the fate of many timelines over her. Homura could have continued making madoka more and more unimaginibly powerful until she became a universal threat and would put kyubey's kind at risk, at which point the kyubey would have had no choice but to back away and not make the deal with madoka. Alas, homura's resolve failed her... She got her payback later though.
You know the saddest thing about the Vampire universe is that in that one, Simon's corpse doesn't even have the crown on it. Which means it may be the one universe where he and Betty actually did have a more stable relationship, and he didn't wind up focusing so much on his career, and they ended up in a happy relationship together. But never got to enjoy it fully because The Mushroom Wars still happened.
@@finderfinder4290 Congratulations, we've just created two separate universes where our two answers are true. Thank you for participating in the ruination of Ooo.
What an insane love story and what an insane moral to teach, several of them. First, Simon realizing his relationship with Betty was nowhere near balanced. Betty sacrificed everything for Simon, and then some. Second, “we’ve made our choices. We could have made better ones. But I don’t regret anything.” Acceptance. Man. First it was Vinland Saga, then Vagabond, then a few others, now this. I’m being bombarded with sad lessons about life. I hope I won’t be discouraged by the prospect in the future.
Idk I feel like a better ending would've been Simon using the crown in the end to just fuze with golb so he can be with Betty . It never really felt satisfying that they just walked away in the end
When I heard that they were making a fionna and cake spin-off I had very low expectations and thought it was gonna be fanservice but holy crap this series was peak
me too. i didn't like the episode in the mainline series that much so i was expecting it to be all kind of like that. im very hyped to not only be proven wrong, but to get a ton of simon and betty character development and for it to be one of my favorite adventure time plotlines in the process.
Simon is the more "human" compare to the other character like he got quality , default , love , he made mistake ect.. that mabye the reason why people love him so much 👓👑❤
Yeah...I think this exact sentence, is why I relate to Simon so much. We haven't said those wordx to each other, but you don't have to speak something to know it's there, that it's true.
Yeah this is relatable for me too also, I do perform rituals to see my girlfriend who became the pure embodiment of chaos and sometimes cats and girls come out of my head when I do rituals.
Adventure Time is just a good show that could potentially make seasons and episode for decades, the lore on every character is just fascinating no matter how goofy and insane they are
Depression is a real thing. It is hard. And the show really resonates with alot of people struggling with these issues. Others in this thread that do the "bootstraps" mentality bullshit are wrong and propably have a lot of problems themselves. However, I still think it's important for people to keep in mind that overcoming depression takes effort. You're not going to cure your depression by giving up. Just want people to keep that in mind. seeing it was one of if not the main message of the show.
The beginning speech is definitely relatable. I wish real life made it feel like one was getting closer to their goals, instead of just doing stuff and hoping you eventually see a change from it. Without possibly regressing because you get sick, accidentally hurt yourself, or just get tired from stretching to reach something and have to take a break. It's irritating, it's disheartening. And, frankly, there's nothing that really makes me want to try anymore. It's all so empty. I can't even find the mental energy to do what I can to make things better.
I find people who find the literal in Simon and Betty's relationship, hilarious. I get the joke, I find it funny too. However, it didn't matter that Simon became the Ice King. Or that Betty became Golb. This story just revealed the truth of their relationship. Simon and Betty were no longer an actual thing long ago. They both made their decisions and had to live with it. They both decided that their dreams were more important at the time than each other. This isn't to say that they didn't love or still love each other, but that in reality, sometimes people you love become "somebody you used to know." And you move on from that.
@@aubarloweSimon cared for his career and his studies, moreso than his relationship with Betty. He made his choice before he put on the crown. He thinks he chose betty but all he really did was distract her from following her dreams.
@@CrystalRose1111 no, he never asked her to. One thing i've seen mentioned that I think phrases it really well is that Simon is too socially inept to pick up that she's neglecting her dreams and/or that he's not assertive enough to be like "hey, are you sure you want this/do you want to do that instead?"
I relate to him so much which is one of the reasons I love his character so much. We've both lost a person who means a lot to ourselves. Desperate to get them back. Troubles sleeping. Regrets past choices. Hopeless Zesty- JK
I always felt bad for the ice king even way back when adventure time had just come out. The way he was just so naive and how fin and Jake would clown on him and bully him, obviously Ice king was insane and just batshit crazy but I always kind of felt bad even before they revealed that the source of his ice powers and insanity were bc of the crown. Then after they revealed the Marcy and Betty lore in AV I felt even more sad. Now after watching Fiona and cake I feel even more sad bc of how much I had in common with Simon Petrikov. Ice king was crazy happy while Simon was human and tired and sad and alone. It just felt so crazy seeing ice king and seeing Simon be two different sides of the same coin.
This was an amazing ending for Simon's story from start to finish. What a glorious journey this was for him to finally let go and find peace while growing as a character still even without the crown
Simon was the reason I fell in love with the show in the first place. His tragic backstory has stuck with me when I was younger. I was so happy when it was revealed tha Simon would be a big part of Fionna And Cake. Love my depressed midle-aged nerd.
true i wouldnt know the experience of being a tormented ice king for 1000 years but i can relate to a depressed guy who holds on or perceivers himself to be in the 21st century
@Jacn0_0 yeah, no lol they draw him with a streak of grey hair and little wrinkles around his eyes and mouth, that's clearly supposed to represent someone in their mid to late foorties, maybe even early fifties
@@Lylactal but I get where you're coming from, the Adventure Time character design is generally so simplisfic that it makes any character look young when they don't spray away to far from their stick figure-ish formula
"My punishment continues to elude me, and i gain no deeper knowledge of myself. No new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing"
This edit is awesome, I love the transition of the golb illustration to the real scene and the contrast between simon and golbetty in the void and the bus scene. Cool editing skills dude
Towards what?. That hit me the most, a few years ago I had a severe and horrible illness, and that illness caused me malnutrition, waking up every day, with less strength and energy without being able to do anything was frustating, at my worst moment I just woke up unmotivated to continue, just waiting to recover or die, and here I am.
I really hope that somehow someway Simon and Betty will be together again, maybe by magic or even someone making a wish on Prismo. I understood that Simon got closure, so to speak, but myself and many other people really want them together and happy. Simon deserves to be happy.
He truly deserves... And that's exactly why he shouldn't be with Betty... Wow, they both made their decisions, no matter how bad they seemed. Now each of them has their own path, the opportunity to live again
I simply loved that in the last scenes you can see Simón letting Betty go when he stops seeing her/caring about her and looks at his present path or the situation in which he lives now.
Let’s hope in another 10 years when the audience grows older they renew or another spin off or season with more adult stuff just to cater towards the original viewer that grew up even more
Who would have knew Simon AKA the OG ice king would have been my most favorite character in adventure time even know because of his backstory goes so far back and it’s so deep. Like he literally has seen so much shit bro. I could understand why he would feel out of place and having an existential crisis.
I got to say this show came out during the perfect time for me because my life has become a blur like I'm in limbo where i try to do different things but end up right back where I was but I know it wont because anything can happen, for better or for worst.
so you were trapped having to watch your identity fade and go insane for a thousand years, your one true love, who you once thought was gone returning and sacrificing herself to bring you back to sanity. You devoted years of your life into studying how to bring her back, turning it into an obsession, finally coming face to face with her only to realise you stopped her from her fully potential, yet she still followed you unwaveringly. seems like a normal tuesday to me
Simon is more relatable then anyone will ever know I hate how relatable he is I wish I could erase the past and have my family back but even if I did not much would have changed just my relationship with my brother unless it would have stayed the same regardless I posted this video on Facebook saying all my trauma out loud finally telling everyone how I felt and saying this video describes how I feel then a family member I met 2 years ago shes my stepmom tho I hate the word mother or mom so I call her laura said to take it down that you don't need to put all your emotions out on Facebook for the world to see all I could think was if you knew the pain the loss the hurt I endored almost offing my self from the hate I received when I was younger cause of the beatings being told I was worse then the dirt on my moms shoes worse then the dirt on her shoes worse then the worms in the dirt things like that stick with you when she died whom she was actually my grandma who raised me I dremped she apoligised and said she was sorry for everything and that she loved me and hugged me and then I said I love you too that's all I ever wanted then a 3 years later my family who took me in broke there contract of privacy and told on them selfs trying to get me in trouble I was sharing no no photos with my boyfriend at the time whom I loved I told them they could watched 123movies on my laptop and instead they looked in my files and tried telling on me but I didn't know so my case workers asked them if they asked me or if I knew they said no so I was told by my case worker I had to leave and I could not stay i said but i want too their my family!!! please don't make me move they said you have too so i was heartbroken and told them i was not made and that i wanted to stay but the caseworkers said i had to leave then i moved in with my mom for a year she was horrible she was just like my mom i mean... grandma i hate the both of them for being so awful i was both of their unpaid maid and the difference is my mom also wanted money from me and worse i got sexually asulted by a random mover who i thought was kinda cute but turned out to just be a one night stand person btw it was orally cause i said no to sex with him and on top of that mom forced me to go to kongfu and she said i was not allowed to date i was 25 when this happened i am 26 now she quote on quote called the cops on my so i ran away and my next boyfriend/last boyfriend said i could stay with him i talked to his parents about everything and then i stayed with them for 2 weeks found a room for went twice then after 11 months of dating my boyfriend zach he proposed and then 2 months later got married and i was the happest i have ever been then i 3 months after getting married had a baby and btw not counting the sexual asult that happed earlier that year i actually married my husband as a vergin both of us it made me happy and i had my cute baby four months ago 3 months ago the cops told me the guy who did the oral thing got arriasted i had never had that happen before but to be honest it was no worse then being beaten every day of my life until nineteen i am glad my husband was and is the sweetest to me i feel so sad over everything i tell my husband a lot i wish i could forget everything from my past then i wouldn't be sad but zach always says i love you and I'll never leave you no matter what and i once even said you promise he said yes i promise even with all your baggage your stuck with me which made me cry tears of joy the sad thing is my brother is gone as in he does not want to talk to me my sister on nana and papas side of the family told me they were planing on replacing me anyways and that they really did just want me for money i asked nana do u love me and she said of course i felt like jesus when he got kissed but was being betrayed i have been stabbed in the back so much it breaks my heart and yet i still smile people look at me like i am strange cause i am kind and i compliment a lot and i am super nice but ik what it is like to be hated by literally your own flesh and blood all i have is my dad who i met 2 years ago for the first time and his wife i am unsure if my sisters trust me they always look so straight faced and ik they care its just they aren't like me and my brother David was on top of that all i got other then my dad and laura is my brother eddie he is also going threw stuff including abandonment he and his girl went threw things but one thing he said that hit home is that he needs hugs and affection and i hugged my brother and said i understand how you feel and i am sorry bro your going thru this. even tho i have my husband and baby its hard to get thru so much trauma and ik things will be better but until then i am trying me best. just remember you maybe the worst to some but your the best to others and if life is gonna be hell maybe those that care about you now is your little slice of heaven here on earth. one last thing simon even tho he does not exist is my best friend he is helping see my trama and an outlet for letting me give myself the advice i'd give to someone else and honestly its help God bless you guys and thank you who uploaded this video i watch it every day nonstop constantly on loop for a while each day then i listen to relaxing Nintendo music but finboror your video has helped me see the hurt and it kinda heals me its bitter sweet when i see simon with better he reminds me of me and zach as the now instead of what was and the pain he feels as my past and pain i love you and everyone in your comment section and everyone in this world even my enemies at least i can say my life was never boring heh oh well what can you do I am happy anyways i like to count my blessings along with the pain i carry on my shoulder kinda like a cross it hurts but were not of this world right so i guess its ok this pain is not forever their is no pain or sadness in heaven thank you Jesus for this life it was horrible at the beginning and now its super sweet and honestly as much as my past sucked if i did not happen the way it happened i would never had met zach and had my wonderful beautiful baby and God Jesus christ is beautiful too (smiles)
Is it weird that I can relate even though I'm 14. Like yeah I don't go through all that but when he all talking about everyday being the same and how it's going nowhere it just speaks to me
I love how fionna and cake teleporting out of simon's head is part of the video, as if the creator is saying "yes, i felt that, that's literally me that time when that cat and that gender bent version of a cartoon character teleported out of the back of his head, that was so relatable i remember that one time when a cat and a genderbent version of a cartoon character teleported out of the back of my head when I was trying to summon the nigh-omnipotent embodiment of chaos that was also my ex into my plane of existence they were so real for that"
A beloved parental figure who is able to move on from his grief thanks to the friends and family that they made along the way as well as saving the world multiple times with their kindness and being able to see to see past their mistakes and be able to find new life even in an unfamiliar world sounds like a wild adventure with a good cathartic ending. Keep your chin up, buddy. Your just starting your arc.
Wow, really? For me, the one character that I despise myself for relating to and fear becoming is Larry Needlemeyer (from The Amazing World of Gumball). That's what I'm most concerned about, not Simon Petrikov.
If you would’ve told 9 year old me that the ICE KING would become my “Joker/Patrick Bateman” at almost 23, I would’ve never believed you. Truly one of the greatest lores of a cartoon character ever.
We get it guys you all lost your fiance because because of a magic crown and raised a demon. And also turned into a crazy magic guy with a mental illness
fall in love, lose love, witness the end of the world, survive the end of the world, witness the loss of sanity, forget who you are, remember again, have new love, lose it again, and live in an era that is not for you and try to have a life whose result is only the past, to almost have the same thing happen again during all this progress that you call life
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If you told my younger self the ice king would’ve become such a deep and interesting character, I wouldn’t have believed you
Same thing w/ darth maul tbh
Same here
do you losers enjoy your conry statments
Everyone when they saw ice king at the start of the show: oh it just some pervert who kidnaps princesses
Everyone after knowing his backstory and how the crown works: He has the saddest backstory in adventure life and is more complex than we thought…
Just like 21 from the venture brothers.
If simon went to the bus with betty, he wouldn't have found the crown, he would probably live a happy life with betty but eventually die with her because of the mushroom bomb, and he doesn't have the crown to protect himself or betty (at least he got to live with betty), marceline wouldn't be raised by simon so she becomes evil and doesn't kill the vampires, human race goes extinct because of the vampires, finn isn't born (which is a really important thing because he is the embodiment of good), the lich emerges and without anyone to stop him he succeeds.
Simon is a catalyst comet.
This is actually really interesting since the yellow comet, that orgalor wants to absorb, hits earth successfully
Everyone theorized that the comet is actually jake but tbh that comet belongs to Simon imo
So there’s an unofficial translation of what the bus says. Someone supposedly used the enchiridion in the show and translated the bus’s destination as “comet”. I say supposedly because idk much about it and apparently the enchiridion cipher isn’t reliable(?) idk. BUT if it’s correct, I wonder what that means.
@@UncleMofo24it probably means Betty will be reincarnated. Like how in that episode with the comet that talked to Finn if he remembers his past lives
The true butterfly effect
@@UncleMofo24this is misinformation. no one actually source that. someone just said it and it keeps getting spread everywhere. it’s gibberish, you can’t actually translate the bus.
I really appreciate Finn being one of the only people who tried helping Simon as soon as he noticed he was unhappy. I'm sure Marcy would have too but it is very meaningful for Finn who used to beat up Ice King on the daily, to be Simons good friend helping him get out of his funk, or at least trying to even if it was unsuccessful.
"I used to BEAT YOUR BALLS..." finn to Simon
My favorite part of the original adventure time was how as time went on Finn would start referring to ice King as Simon more and more often after he learned the truth
@@twittwitmf3258 No he said "Bust your balls" in reference to the Fionna and Cake fanfictions Ice King wrote
@@traveler5562 No yeah that was nice, and in the episode where Finn gets those magic eyes it shows that at that point in time he only sees Ice King as Simon
To be fair, he did end up beating Simon up this time too, lol 😂
I also had a gril that turned into a chaotic deity to save me from insanity that I then travelled the multiverse to find
same
Bro that would be so me
IF I HAD ONE!!!
That's rough buddy.
@@lordhades8025a Avatar reference; a surprise to be sure but a welcomed one
i love grils
Man the producers really know how to get in touch with their viewers. It's like they know the kids who grew up watching it are now depressed
Edit: Jesus christ, I can't believe my comment attracted some loses telling people who's allowed to have depression and who's not
The funny part is the characters actually got a happy ending and the viewers are like...
"When's Mine?"
You’re not depressed
@shiranuikaede Jake from baby world didn't get a happy ending, he lost his baby brother
@duolingoowl920 holy crap I'm not! It's all gone! Thanks duolingo owl! I'm cure! 😑
Idk man I'm pretty happy
Now I'm actually curious about what if Simon had actually gotten on the bus with Betty...
Not much would have changed, Simon would probably still find the crown. If anything the crown saved both of them from being killed in the mushroom war, which means marceline could save the humans.
Nah I'm pretty sure they would have both just died in the mushroom war
The Star universe probably
@@Seba12322 The bus scene itself is in their minds, but what I meant is: What if Simon didn't interrupt getting on the bus with Betty by saying "this isn't how it happened" and instead followed her onto the bus?
Like would he in someway stayed with Golbetty?
@@Super-Saiyan-Blue-GogetaAh yes, I was Isekai'd into a new reality to live with my eldritch horror girlfriend!
Tom Kenny was not kidding when he said this is the most emotional role he’s ever performed
its crazy that this is the same guy who voices spongebob
@@memescoffee3173Hell it’s crazy that this is the same _character_ we started the show with. I never, not in a million years, would have anticipated that Ice King would be one of the most tragic, layered and nuanced characters I’ve seen in all of fiction.
the way simon has lived the most incomprehensible, unrealistic life and yet he is still relatable because at its core, his problems stem from very real issues and basic character flaws (i.e. no sense of purpose, stuck in the past, full of regrets, one-sided relationship with betty)... the writers did a spectacular job on this show
Simon legit is the most relatable character without having a relatable story line. His struggles are relatable, the circumstances aren’t
@@LR-jo7ciI mean, making mistakes, wishing you could have done things in the past differently, mishandling a relationship, going crazy, etc is pretty relatable scenarios.
could you please elaborate on the one sided relationship part?
@santana7827 i was referring to how fionna & cake explored the imbalance in simon & betty's relationship, and how simon was too focused on himself to be a good partner to betty! should have probably picked another word haha
Adventure Time is a great case study for good writing (especially for fantasy and fiction in general). Its massive and expansive and seems larger than life but at its core it houses the same issues we encounter in everyday life. It just exaggerates them to keep things interesting.
i love a good compilation of a sopping wet cat, burdened with suffocating despair because he is sopping and wet.
I love sopping wet cats
this reminds me of the sopping wet plushie copypasta where you slam it against the wall and it makes a loud thud and you suck the milk out of it
Lmfaoo
i wish i could cradle him like a kitten
@@theemilianob alr ima need a link for that
It's just so crazy to me still even after all this time. I remember being a kid thinking ice king was just a silly gag character then they went and showed my little kid brain that people can have REAL horrible problems that I had no idea were taking place. This show taught me a lot about empathy and forgiveness. Simon is probably the best written character on this show and it's awesome we got to see him resolve his issues.
Turns out the crazy methhead sex offender had a really sad backstory 😢
Oh woe is him
@@tahmkench118sometimes there’s no tragic backstory for those kinds of people
jimmy mcgill also
@@simonpetrikov3992i mean he was literally possessed by a magic insane crown for 1000 years and mixed with his loss of his true love betty 💀
@@pawuki well yeah obviously for Simon that’s true
It’s nearly impossible for someone to relate to Simon at all. He went through more trauma than anyone in any show, and to now he still struggles to cope with his past
1000+ years of tragedy💀
Marcy and Magic man also lived through kinda the same but at least they ended more happily than Simon
i can relate except the whole "driven insane by a magic crown and living in a post-apocalpytic world" bit
Bro, you forgot Nox from Wakfu....his life is also a tragedy
@@z3rog4mer84 How could I forget someone I don’t know? 🤔
Homura Akemi from Madoka Magica (actually I think Simon's story is inspired by hers]
Honestly my biggest complaint with the show is how they set up Simon not talking to Marcy in the first episode, then in later episodes explain how important she was to him and vice versa. Only for them to never show him opening up to her or at least hanging out in the finale
I agree with you
No hablo con ella, pero al igual que con muchos sentia que no era importante para ella, hasta antes se mostró que creia que no era importante para ella, pero me gusto como se dio cuenta por el multiverso que sin el estaria estancada en un mundo que solo le traeria muerte. Tal vez no lo hagan directo pero se nota que Simón si fue importante para ella
Honestly? It feels so incredibly weird to talk with a parental figure about their mental health, for both parties I'm sure. I totally get why Simon didn't get Marceline involved in it.
@@chanterelle483as someone who basically is a therapist to both my parents Simon was smart not too
Part of me prays that they're saving it for future content because it's so incredibly confusing to me that they didn't even had her make a non-speaking cameo during the final montage, I highly doubt such a thing would've taken more effort than some of the scenes they did include.
Character with depression: Exists
Me: it's literally me
for real
“Every day is just an unending slog towards…towards….what?”
I remember watching this series when it first premiered, i was in middle school.
Now im a full fledged adult. Have a stable job and just got my own apartment not too long ago and now i find myself asking that same question everyday :(
This series has done an absolutely phenomenal job growing with its audience over the years.
Hello! I'm just a stranger on the internet, so I doubt I can provide some insight that will genuinely help, but I'd love to at least try!
Truth is, there's nothing specific that we're heading towards in life. I think trying to find that 'big thing' will only drive us mad. We live to survive, to see tomorrow, but we forget that now is more important.
Sometimes when I feel like I'm in a cycle, I stop to think about now. Sometimes I'd go outside just to watch the stars, Sometimes I'd stare at the clouds or appreciate the pond a bit more. Sometimes I concentrate on the feeling of my clothes and my babygirl's purring. Sometimes I just experience a little harder in the present, and it feels good.
There will be times where you're stepping towards something big. Then there will be times where there's nothing happening before the next big thing happens.
But what's really neat, is feeling the moment, and appreciating what's so easily ignored nowadays.
It's corny, yes. But I love those moments of clarity, stepping towards nothing so i find myself wanting to experience everything
@@Akalimall we’re stepping towards is death. Sounds edgy, but it’s true. Most of our lives have no impact on anything. Nobody will remember us 50-100 years down the line. You can try to find some meaning in life but in the end it’ll all be ‘dust in the wind’ (good song by the way.)
Simon is literally the definition of being so depressed because of your previous actions, you have to find some kind of escape from it.
Most relatable character in Fionna and Cake
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I know it’s cliche but the song name being “the perfect girl” is just the icing on the cake.
I feel like Ice King and Simon's story really summarizes Adventure Time as a whole, goofy character doing wacky things meeting incredibly sad tragedy
If anyone watched Madoka Magica, Simon and Homura are the same person. Going through about 1000 years of trauma to try to save your loved one from becoming God to the point of insanity
The difference is tht homura could have won if she persisted longer, madoka's witch form grew bigger, stronger and more powerful every time homura went back and placed the fate of many timelines over her. Homura could have continued making madoka more and more unimaginibly powerful until she became a universal threat and would put kyubey's kind at risk, at which point the kyubey would have had no choice but to back away and not make the deal with madoka. Alas, homura's resolve failed her... She got her payback later though.
You know the saddest thing about the Vampire universe is that in that one, Simon's corpse doesn't even have the crown on it.
Which means it may be the one universe where he and Betty actually did have a more stable relationship, and he didn't wind up focusing so much on his career, and they ended up in a happy relationship together.
But never got to enjoy it fully because The Mushroom Wars still happened.
there's comfort in knowing that the universe where simon did "the wrong choice", ooo is a better place
I assumed the vampire king was the one who killed him and stole the crown from his body
@@finderfinder4290 Congratulations, we've just created two separate universes where our two answers are true.
Thank you for participating in the ruination of Ooo.
@@finboror Living long enough to make a difference in a young girl's life.
@@Introbuluslol
I am a Simon striving to be a Jake.
I just wanna be Jake, dude. Jake is so damn chill.
i like/hate to think when simon asked finn “towards what?” finn thought in his head “to see jake again”
Today, we may feel like Simon Petrikov. Tomorrow, we'll be better. Stay strong, everyone. Overcoming takes an everyday.
What an insane love story and what an insane moral to teach, several of them.
First, Simon realizing his relationship with Betty was nowhere near balanced. Betty sacrificed everything for Simon, and then some.
Second, “we’ve made our choices. We could have made better ones. But I don’t regret anything.” Acceptance.
Man. First it was Vinland Saga, then Vagabond, then a few others, now this. I’m being bombarded with sad lessons about life. I hope I won’t be discouraged by the prospect in the future.
I wondered why simon could do magic without being crazy... then I remembered it's "Madness and Sadness" and he has more than enough of the other.
I’m glad he got a happy ending, man really do be one of the most important characters in adventure time and also one of the most tragic
Can you spoil it for me? What happy ending
@@_feli3283 learns to accept life and finds new meaning, as well as letting Betty know that he’s ok
@@SmellenBellen thank you!
Idk I feel like a better ending would've been Simon using the crown in the end to just fuze with golb so he can be with Betty . It never really felt satisfying that they just walked away in the end
@@brandong7675 why would he have fused with Betty? How would he of fused with Betty? What?
When I heard that they were making a fionna and cake spin-off I had very low expectations and thought it was gonna be fanservice but holy crap this series was peak
Not fanservice? 😂
peak fr fr
me too. i didn't like the episode in the mainline series that much so i was expecting it to be all kind of like that. im very hyped to not only be proven wrong, but to get a ton of simon and betty character development and for it to be one of my favorite adventure time plotlines in the process.
100 years of torment or not, i relate to him.
Pretty sure it was around a thousand years that he was the ice king
There’s something so endearing seeing Simon as he truly is for more than a single episode at a time or in glimpses per while.
Simon is the more "human" compare to the other character like he got quality , default , love , he made mistake ect.. that mabye the reason why people love him so much 👓👑❤
"You were a wonderful experience" "You were... everything"
The two sentences that broke my inner 7yro self💔
Yeah...I think this exact sentence, is why I relate to Simon so much. We haven't said those wordx to each other, but you don't have to speak something to know it's there, that it's true.
Yeah this is relatable for me too also, I do perform rituals to see my girlfriend who became the pure embodiment of chaos and sometimes cats and girls come out of my head when I do rituals.
Simon was already my favorite adventure time chracters, and this series really cemented him as my absolute favorite.
Simon is such a great and relatable character. I can't believe a silly show for kids made this story.
Adventure Time is just a good show that could potentially make seasons and episode for decades, the lore on every character is just fascinating no matter how goofy and insane they are
Omg he just like me fr
Depression is a real thing. It is hard. And the show really resonates with alot of people struggling with these issues. Others in this thread that do the "bootstraps" mentality bullshit are wrong and propably have a lot of problems themselves. However, I still think it's important for people to keep in mind that overcoming depression takes effort. You're not going to cure your depression by giving up. Just want people to keep that in mind. seeing it was one of if not the main message of the show.
Still amazes me how this is the same guy who voices SpongeBob
finally a literally me character i actually relate to
The beginning speech is definitely relatable. I wish real life made it feel like one was getting closer to their goals, instead of just doing stuff and hoping you eventually see a change from it. Without possibly regressing because you get sick, accidentally hurt yourself, or just get tired from stretching to reach something and have to take a break.
It's irritating, it's disheartening. And, frankly, there's nothing that really makes me want to try anymore. It's all so empty. I can't even find the mental energy to do what I can to make things better.
I find people who find the literal in Simon and Betty's relationship, hilarious. I get the joke, I find it funny too.
However, it didn't matter that Simon became the Ice King. Or that Betty became Golb. This story just revealed the truth of their relationship. Simon and Betty were no longer an actual thing long ago. They both made their decisions and had to live with it. They both decided that their dreams were more important at the time than each other. This isn't to say that they didn't love or still love each other, but that in reality, sometimes people you love become "somebody you used to know." And you move on from that.
It's been 33 minutes how do you have 21 likes.
that song is stuck in my head now
@@fybson1068how did they ever go their separate ways??
@@aubarloweSimon cared for his career and his studies, moreso than his relationship with Betty. He made his choice before he put on the crown. He thinks he chose betty but all he really did was distract her from following her dreams.
@@CrystalRose1111 no, he never asked her to. One thing i've seen mentioned that I think phrases it really well is that Simon is too socially inept to pick up that she's neglecting her dreams and/or that he's not assertive enough to be like "hey, are you sure you want this/do you want to do that instead?"
Poor man couldn't even kill himself, Betty as Golb would prevent it.
I love how after all Finn went through, he still didn’t have the answer
I relate to him so much which is one of the reasons I love his character so much.
We've both lost a person who means a lot to ourselves.
Desperate to get them back.
Troubles sleeping.
Regrets past choices.
Hopeless
Zesty- JK
You had a girlfriend who became a wizard. Then took the place of an Eldredge god to save you from everything?
Yes /j@@Xae-va
@@Xae-va top 10 situationships in media this is like 3 number 1 is jimmy and kim wexler from bcs
Same
I know a good purpose for everyone. To help each other in every day's struggle. To never neglect other's feelings.
It's refreshing to see a literally me that isn't portrayed by a toxic masculinity trope.
i wanna see feminine simon NOW
@@Lylactal an Ice Queen Simon? Or an alternate reality in which Betty uses the crown instead?
@@darklizard45 an ice queen simon
@@darklizard45you know Ryan Gosling? He’s literally me
I always felt bad for the ice king even way back when adventure time had just come out. The way he was just so naive and how fin and Jake would clown on him and bully him, obviously Ice king was insane and just batshit crazy but I always kind of felt bad even before they revealed that the source of his ice powers and insanity were bc of the crown.
Then after they revealed the Marcy and Betty lore in AV I felt even more sad.
Now after watching Fiona and cake I feel even more sad bc of how much I had in common with Simon Petrikov. Ice king was crazy happy while Simon was human and tired and sad and alone. It just felt so crazy seeing ice king and seeing Simon be two different sides of the same coin.
This was an amazing ending for Simon's story from start to finish. What a glorious journey this was for him to finally let go and find peace while growing as a character still even without the crown
his lore went from just being ice king stealing princesses to simon petrikov missing his princess
Simon was the reason I fell in love with the show in the first place. His tragic backstory has stuck with me when I was younger. I was so happy when it was revealed tha Simon would be a big part of Fionna And Cake. Love my depressed midle-aged nerd.
"He's literally me!!!" 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
true i wouldnt know the experience of being a tormented ice king for 1000 years but i can relate to a depressed guy who holds on or perceivers himself to be in the 21st century
Self proclaimed “free thinkers” when they meet Simon Petrikov
I swear that Simon is like Guts.
And I don't mean here the hair only, the pain inside of them, the agony...
God, I love my alcoholic depressed dilf dork
he looks to be in his 20 and if you ask me he kinda looks like a twink
@Jacn0_0 yeah, no lol they draw him with a streak of grey hair and little wrinkles around his eyes and mouth, that's clearly supposed to represent someone in their mid to late foorties, maybe even early fifties
@@Lylactal but I get where you're coming from, the Adventure Time character design is generally so simplisfic that it makes any character look young when they don't spray away to far from their stick figure-ish formula
"My punishment continues to elude me, and i gain no deeper knowledge of myself. No new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing"
When SpongeBob Squarepants has a mental breakdown and goes into depression, then you know life is hard.
This edit is awesome, I love the transition of the golb illustration to the real scene and the contrast between simon and golbetty in the void and the bus scene. Cool editing skills dude
Towards what?.
That hit me the most, a few years ago I had a severe and horrible illness, and that illness caused me malnutrition, waking up every day, with less strength and energy without being able to do anything was frustating, at my worst moment I just woke up unmotivated to continue, just waiting to recover or die, and here I am.
going insane over this
Damn, I guess you *are* him.
Crown moment
I really hope that somehow someway Simon and Betty will be together again, maybe by magic or even someone making a wish on Prismo. I understood that Simon got closure, so to speak, but myself and many other people really want them together and happy. Simon deserves to be happy.
He truly deserves... And that's exactly why he shouldn't be with Betty... Wow, they both made their decisions, no matter how bad they seemed. Now each of them has their own path, the opportunity to live again
the only man of the year 2000 in a magical world after a nuclear catastrophe
I simply loved that in the last scenes you can see Simón letting Betty go when he stops seeing her/caring about her and looks at his present path or the situation in which he lives now.
fr so relatable in an odd way
Let’s hope in another 10 years when the audience grows older they renew or another spin off or season with more adult stuff just to cater towards the original viewer that grew up even more
Who would have knew Simon AKA the OG ice king would have been my most favorite character in adventure time even know because of his backstory goes so far back and it’s so deep. Like he literally has seen so much shit bro. I could understand why he would feel out of place and having an existential crisis.
This show was perfect every minute detail down to the most single atom it was perfect and I feel like deserves more praise
I hope Simon is able to be happy. It’ll take a lot of time but healing takes time.
I got to say this show came out during the perfect time for me because my life has become a blur like I'm in limbo where i try to do different things but end up right back where I was but I know it wont because anything can happen, for better or for worst.
Simon is literally me RN. I’m stuck in limbo doing the same thing everyday, I’d even loose track of time, a month would feel like 1 day…
0:33 this Golb part is cleannnn
Kid's show presents us the most tragic character
"Everything has a reason, but that reason can also be the one for you not to move forward and accept the truth"
so you were trapped having to watch your identity fade and go insane for a thousand years, your one true love, who you once thought was gone returning and sacrificing herself to bring you back to sanity. You devoted years of your life into studying how to bring her back, turning it into an obsession, finally coming face to face with her only to realise you stopped her from her fully potential, yet she still followed you unwaveringly. seems like a normal tuesday to me
Alternative title: “Sad Simon Edit”
Simon is more relatable then anyone will ever know I hate how relatable he is I wish I could erase the past and have my family back but even if I did not much would have changed just my relationship with my brother unless it would have stayed the same regardless I posted this video on Facebook saying all my trauma out loud finally telling everyone how I felt and saying this video describes how I feel then a family member I met 2 years ago shes my stepmom tho I hate the word mother or mom so I call her laura said to take it down that you don't need to put all your emotions out on Facebook for the world to see all I could think was if you knew the pain the loss the hurt I endored almost offing my self from the hate I received when I was younger cause of the beatings being told I was worse then the dirt on my moms shoes worse then the dirt on her shoes worse then the worms in the dirt things like that stick with you when she died whom she was actually my grandma who raised me I dremped she apoligised and said she was sorry for everything and that she loved me and hugged me and then I said I love you too that's all I ever wanted then a 3 years later my family who took me in broke there contract of privacy and told on them selfs trying to get me in trouble I was sharing no no photos with my boyfriend at the time whom I loved I told them they could watched 123movies on my laptop and instead they looked in my files and tried telling on me but I didn't know so my case workers asked them if they asked me or if I knew they said no so I was told by my case worker I had to leave and I could not stay i said but i want too their my family!!! please don't make me move they said you have too so i was heartbroken and told them i was not made and that i wanted to stay but the caseworkers said i had to leave then i moved in with my mom for a year she was horrible she was just like my mom i mean... grandma i hate the both of them for being so awful i was both of their unpaid maid and the difference is my mom also wanted money from me and worse i got sexually asulted by a random mover who i thought was kinda cute but turned out to just be a one night stand person btw it was orally cause i said no to sex with him and on top of that mom forced me to go to kongfu and she said i was not allowed to date i was 25 when this happened i am 26 now she quote on quote called the cops on my so i ran away and my next boyfriend/last boyfriend said i could stay with him i talked to his parents about everything and then i stayed with them for 2 weeks found a room for went twice then after 11 months of dating my boyfriend zach he proposed and then 2 months later got married and i was the happest i have ever been then i 3 months after getting married had a baby and btw not counting the sexual asult that happed earlier that year i actually married my husband as a vergin both of us it made me happy and i had my cute baby four months ago 3 months ago the cops told me the guy who did the oral thing got arriasted i had never had that happen before but to be honest it was no worse then being beaten every day of my life until nineteen i am glad my husband was and is the sweetest to me i feel so sad over everything i tell my husband a lot i wish i could forget everything from my past then i wouldn't be sad but zach always says i love you and I'll never leave you no matter what and i once even said you promise he said yes i promise even with all your baggage your stuck with me which made me cry tears of joy the sad thing is my brother is gone as in he does not want to talk to me my sister on nana and papas side of the family told me they were planing on replacing me anyways and that they really did just want me for money i asked nana do u love me and she said of course i felt like jesus when he got kissed but was being betrayed i have been stabbed in the back so much it breaks my heart and yet i still smile people look at me like i am strange cause i am kind and i compliment a lot and i am super nice but ik what it is like to be hated by literally your own flesh and blood all i have is my dad who i met 2 years ago for the first time and his wife i am unsure if my sisters trust me they always look so straight faced and ik they care its just they aren't like me and my brother David was on top of that all i got other then my dad and laura is my brother eddie he is also going threw stuff including abandonment he and his girl went threw things but one thing he said that hit home is that he needs hugs and affection and i hugged my brother and said i understand how you feel and i am sorry bro your going thru this. even tho i have my husband and baby its hard to get thru so much trauma and ik things will be better but until then i am trying me best. just remember you maybe the worst to some but your the best to others and if life is gonna be hell maybe those that care about you now is your little slice of heaven here on earth. one last thing simon even tho he does not exist is my best friend he is helping see my trama and an outlet for letting me give myself the advice i'd give to someone else and honestly its help God bless you guys and thank you who uploaded this video i watch it every day nonstop constantly on loop for a while each day then i listen to relaxing Nintendo music but finboror your video has helped me see the hurt and it kinda heals me its bitter sweet when i see simon with better he reminds me of me and zach as the now instead of what was and the pain he feels as my past and pain i love you and everyone in your comment section and everyone in this world even my enemies at least i can say my life was never boring heh oh well what can you do I am happy anyways i like to count my blessings along with the pain i carry on my shoulder kinda like a cross it hurts but were not of this world right so i guess its ok this pain is not forever their is no pain or sadness in heaven thank you Jesus for this life it was horrible at the beginning and now its super sweet and honestly as much as my past sucked if i did not happen the way it happened i would never had met zach and had my wonderful beautiful baby and God Jesus christ is beautiful too (smiles)
literally the Tragedy of Simon Petrikov
"Everyday is just an unending slug towards...towards ,what?"
Man, that actually looks great
Every story has a character that relates to everyone. It’s so sad sometimes 🙁
I have many
Is it weird that I can relate even though I'm 14. Like yeah I don't go through all that but when he all talking about everyday being the same and how it's going nowhere it just speaks to me
I love how fionna and cake teleporting out of simon's head is part of the video, as if the creator is saying
"yes, i felt that, that's literally me
that time when that cat and that gender bent version of a cartoon character teleported out of the back of his head, that was so relatable
i remember that one time when a cat and a genderbent version of a cartoon character teleported out of the back of my head when I was trying to summon the nigh-omnipotent embodiment of chaos that was also my ex into my plane of existence
they were so real for that"
because of betty, simon canonically has plot armor
I hope we all find purpose in live like Simon.
Nothing makes me happier than just seeing Simon accept his life and his past and choosing to move forward. Shit is peak.
Simon and I are very similar in many ways
Sigma Simon
it was a canon event
I relate to Simon a lot sometimes
The tragedy of Simon Petrikov
This editing is amazing. Like a flood of emotions drowning you. Great work!
I despise myself for relating to Simon, I honestly fear the day I become him.
A beloved parental figure who is able to move on from his grief thanks to the friends and family that they made along the way as well as saving the world multiple times with their kindness and being able to see to see past their mistakes and be able to find new life even in an unfamiliar world sounds like a wild adventure with a good cathartic ending. Keep your chin up, buddy. Your just starting your arc.
Wow, really? For me, the one character that I despise myself for relating to and fear becoming is Larry Needlemeyer (from The Amazing World of Gumball). That's what I'm most concerned about, not Simon Petrikov.
If you would’ve told 9 year old me that the ICE KING would become my “Joker/Patrick Bateman” at almost 23, I would’ve never believed you. Truly one of the greatest lores of a cartoon character ever.
Everyone is in pain. even the happy ones
The fact this makes me sad makes me sadder.
We get it guys you all lost your fiance because because of a magic crown and raised a demon. And also turned into a crazy magic guy with a mental illness
fall in love, lose love, witness the end of the world, survive the end of the world, witness the loss of sanity, forget who you are, remember again, have new love, lose it again, and live in an era that is not for you and try to have a life whose result is only the past, to almost have the same thing happen again during all this progress that you call life
I miss my wife Finn, i miss her a lot
Watching this show for over 10 years still a huge fan😭
Damn, that was great! I subbed and I’ll def send to one of my friends
To think this was the guy we laughed at when we were kids. Now I feel really bad about it.
this is so relatable because my girfriend also gets fusion with golb forever 😭😭😭😭
cant believe this is thr guy that does spunchbawb