***** theres also thelonewanderer and a few others I believe, he's just the most prominent I guess. Having trouble understanding why, maybe he just puts out the news faster maybe. Its just another comment shtick like so and so brought me here and other nonsense
I've been playing Bethesda games since Daggerfall in 96'. lol So that's.. .. Daggerfall Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim Fallout 3 Fallout: New Vegas All games with all available DLC and expansion adds up to about 13 - 15k hours. Daggerfall and Morrowind being the longest games they've ever made. (Daggerfall still has the largest map of any game ever made to this day.) I must have played Morrowind for five years... Burned my Xbox out playing Morrowind. lol
MakoRuu Bethesda only published New Vegas, Obsidian developed it. So im not sure if it counts, but imma list the ones ive played IN ORDER! Fallout 3 Skyrim (including Dawngaurd DLC Oblivion (No DLC) Fallout New Vegas (All DLC [If it Fallout NV counts as Bethesda]) Morrowind (No DLC)
0.1% of the comments: "I prefer the old system" 99.9% of the comments: "MAN WHY THE HELL ARE SO MANY PEOPLE FREAKING HATING ON THIS?!?!?! WE'RE MOVING ON I MEAN LIKE HELLOUUU, DEAL WITH IT!!!!!1"
Noname Noname Personally I'd say you can do more with the old system than this new system which just seems like a dumbed down version. Also the mechanics they are adding from Skyrim don't seem that good such as the lockpick system in where you can unlock every door type without having to have leveled up your lockpicking. The old system made more sense in my opinion and last but not least I really dislike the retarded crit system where there are no random crits anymore which I think is stupid.
Marksman Frost Skyrim Lockpick system is fine anyone should be able to pick a lock it just should be harder the better you get the more easy it is. And how is this system dumbed down they made S.P.E.C.I.A;L more important than Fallout 3/NV AND THERE ARE STILL RANDOM CRITS WHO TOLD YOU THERE WEREN'T ANY RANDOM CRITS?
+brownsugarcandie2007 God damn, calm down. lol It's not hard to find ways to busy yourself until November 10th... Like making a small armory of Fallout weapon props.
Bakamoichigei NO, thanks! I don't have time to calm down for a game I've been waiting YEARS for. I'll keep being HYPED. Yes there are other games, but I will still be hyped! LET ME, be hyped, thank you! :-)
so make a different playthough for once in your life lol why would u want to play this game just like u played the last ones, its barely even the same. im doing everything differently on purpose
+stefanfr13 High INT was a waste of special points in NV, since you could max all skills with a score no higher than 4. Then again, special points were good only for meeting perk requirements or roleplaying.
+Aetrion That's because it requires 3 charisma which is garbage. 3 out of a possible 10. If your charisma is that low or higher you are able to pick the lone wanderer perk.
+Aetrion I think it's a nice thing they put it there. If you play a rogue or assassin, you still want an incentive to have charisma to be a persuasive little india-jones while in cities, but you won't bring a clingy dog that's going to get you detected everywhere you go. It allows for stealthy characters to have a reasonable reason to invest in charisma and not be an ugly little fuck. And we don't know what the level 2 or 3 does. Plus, there is something romantic and epic about being a lone wasteland wanderer, and I think that definitelly fits under charisma.
+Tyler Dowd Can't wait until I can pre-download it, so it is ready for launch. Thanks to steam and bethesda for not making me wait to download the game!
+Tyler Dowd Can't wait until I can pre-download it, so it is ready for launch. Thanks to steam and bethesda for not making me wait to download the game!
+Legion Geth I don't like him, he's quite annoying, doing an in depth analsis would be way more fun (not that much of a challenge anyway) and would just take you watching the video again.
Everyone's super excited, but I'm kinda wary of there being no skill points any more. Just special and perks from what I've seen. Are skills tied directly to special stats? Or does my character just get to be awesome at everything from the start?
+SoSezTheDude There is a Level Bar at the bottom of the pip boy screen which would lead me to believe there must be skill points in this game to reach a new level and unlock new perks.
Fallout 4 is more geared towards SPECIAL like the older games and anyway, the skill system was pathetic. I could be the master of science and yet still have the intelligence of one, I could be a real smooth talker/merchant and have the charisma of a hermit. This way, it makes sense. It was way too easy to max out all the skills and be just a god in fallout 3 and New vegas. At least from what we're seeing here it'll require a lot more thinking rather than dumping all your points into one skill. Todd did say though you can have everything on one character but it takes an extreme amount of time.
+No words Only dreams. I think that there were better ways to fix that. Someone in the comments here suggested a system where your max points in a skill are capped based on the related S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stat, and that's a pretty good idea, honestly. Or, for an alternative, make it take more points to raise the level of a skill, the lower the related stat is, because let's be honest, in the real world, people _do_ overcome their disadvantages to become good at something through sheer practice and determination, sometimes. Couple either one or both of Capped Levels and Slowed Improvement to a system where you improve skills by using them (ala TES), to counter the "How did I get good at something I've never done?" question, and you'd already be most of the way to a skill system that improves on the original without taking mechanics away.
+Mitch Charles I wouldn't quite say its innovation. If something isn't broken you don't fix it, its as simple as that. It feels like Bethesda is trying to reinvent the wheel with this.
+Moebs Chan (Moobs) since when is "reinventing the wheel" ever a bad thing... every time that has ever happened has been the greatest moment of history lmao
+Mitch Charles or they liked the old system and don't like what is basically removing a core feature of fallout since the first game in favor of modern gaming perk bullshit where everything you do is improved by perks and not a skill system. you don't get better at shooting guns you pick a perk that has some effect that makes gunplay better. this makes fallout more like far cry then an rpg.
Martin Smith the world isnt where it is today because people thought "eh its been good enough for the past 10 years, no need to try and improve it at all, it'll do"
Any chance that having certain stats at certain levels change your character model, like say having a full 10 strength make your character look significantly bulkier than if they only had, say, 1? Or is that too much for the engine?
+MadDemon64 I thought it was like that first when he had 1 in Agility in one of his plays and the character ran like a mongoloid, but then when he had a higher number in agility and the character still ran like a mongoloid it was obvious that was not the case. So nah that stuff is not there, doubt you will get the fun stuff as it was in the past when you picked Intelligence 1 and the dialouge was dumb down, especially now with voiced protagonist, doubt they had to speak lines where they were Intelligence 1. Another set back with the voiced protagonist.
+MadDemon64 no plz dont lol that shit ruins the game lol unless they have an option to take it off. look at how Sims 4 did it with when you get the body/atheltic all the way up to 10 you look like a fucking body builder and its gross as fuck
+IDK Creations thts not how it works we get it the same day in fact because of time zones we get the game first since well timezones and shit like that.
As a fan of old school fallout and new fallout there are some changes I like here. I like the fact that they've separated the different gun types through the perks. So now you can't just spec into guns and become good at using every gun in the game from snipers to pistols like you could in new vegas, now your character will be good at bolt action rifles only or assault rifles only encouraging different character builds, I think it's a good change. Maybe in Obsidian's next fallout game they'll bring back the old system or combine the new and the old into a completely new leveling system.
+Paladin Waffles Obsidian will probably stick with it and throw Traits on top of it. And you're right, this is more in-line with the earlier games. Which is flat-out ironic.
+freaskydoodle999 BUT ITS NOT FALLOUT 2! JK, but I would like if they remade those games, because not only are they fun games, but most people don't even know wtf the enclave is, or why they should be stopped if they hadn't played FO2
+FearlessFlourish wayy too many multiplayer games, other than Halo 5 i just want fallout 4 and that's it. I need to be able to fully sink into the world of nuclear fallout.
+Paul Looney : On a basic level, it will. Problem is, they're using a skill system that is streamlined even further from the Elder Scrolls model, which wasn't well thought out given how easily one could game the leveling system by spam-crafting. And if the system is set up this way, you're setting up problems with the Perks you want versus the derived attributes your SPECIAL points affect. And removing Skills, as per Beth's blog post, is laziness of the highest order. They've given Skills their own Perks in the past, in Oblivion no less. What was stopping them from doing that here, and keeping the Perks divorced from SPECIAL? Even with what they've said about how they remold every new game's system, that idea was fine, though in need of a few alterations.
3, actually. You start with 30 SPECIAL points and one point in each by default. That means 2 extra points for the others. I'm gonna do high agility and intelligence, and lower physical skills. I like being stealthy/maneuverable.
Wow, thanks Bethesda for simplifying fucking everything and neutering the core RPG aspect of the game. I know you're appealing more to casual gamers, but this is just sad. It's kind of hilarious when the first Fallout game has more customization than this. Oh well. Fanboys will eat it up regardless. They'll find a way to make me look like a hater or something.
bruh i know its been 5 years but old system was worse by rpg standarts since int is op and charisma and perception are useless except for perk requirements. fallout 4 makes a new dynamic system where every special stat is important and takes away unnecessary point system because there is lockips only upgraded every 25 points . it was just easier and more practical to have them as perks as now you can ask companions to hack or lockpick for you. fallout 4 is way more customisable since there are mods like exceptional skills if you want the old system while old games are well old (doesnt make them bad but dated for sure)
This is fux0r1ng 4m4z1ng. Was a bit worried at first about removing skills, but as it turns out, Bethesballs did flatten the system in Skyrim (into Skill Trees & Perks), and in this case they flattened it into SPECIAL Attributes & Perks. So it's essentially the same type of class flatness. It worked in Skyrim, so it should work here.
+Culveyhouse Here read this "If you’re a longtime Fallout fan, you’ll notice that the Skills seen in previous games have been folded into this system. The previous Skill system had some confusing parts and ended up spreading your choices too thin. Some of you had questions like: “What’s better, the Charisma SPECIAL, or the Speech Skill? Why are assault rifles in Small Guns?” Additionally many Perks simply raised associated Skills. The Gun Nut Perk in Fallout 3 increased two separate Skills. In Fallout 4, the ranks of Gun Nut act as gates for modifying and crafting weapons. Sneak was a skill in Fallout 3, and you simply increased its value. In Fallout 4 Sneak becomes a Perk that not only makes you harder to detect, but wraps in previous perks like Silent Running and Light Step into its ranks. By wrapping these systems together, it keeps the emphasis on your SPECIALs and the level-up choices more rewarding."
+Mike the Man Yes? The only difference is now there are more ranks to more perks, in previous games there were even a handful of perks that were the same way.
***** How exactly? By removing an entire layer of customization, the game is only going to become even less complex. It's one thing improving a system, it's another stripping off vital parts of it.
+Derzak the skills aren't necessarily removed though.. Just streamlined into the SPECIAL attributes. Perhaps you don't like that, which is fine I guess, I don't mind at all and I'm willing to see how it pans out. Just making sure you know what's going on.
***** Opinions cant be wrong, he doesn't like this system, that's his opinion. You can't just shout WRONG because he doesn't share your opinion. Why do you keep referring to Fallout 3 like it's the only fallout game in existence, or like it's the only one that had skills. They ALL had skills. This is a system that has been in five previous games.
Before Fallout 4 Trailer :I need a girlfriend,i spend to much time on computer After Fallout 4 Trailer :I need a copy of Fallout 4,nuclear war is coming Lesson:The war can kill the love
You don't need a gf maybe before fallout 4 yes but when fallout 4 drops be like see yeah bitch I don't need you anymore I can see a lot of ppl breaking up with each other when Fallout 4 drops in a month!
+8jb65 VATS is not compass. VATS is something you use to shoot things. That perk probably means that you'll see a distance to your target while using VATS to shoot at them. As for the quest target... not sure about this one.
Shut the fuck up, it's called change. You expect every fallout game to have the same system for the rest of eternity? No, shit gets boring that way, this new system will make character builds way more diverse.
So many times in the months before Bethesda games, i have sat here listening to Todd Howard and had him explain the latest game, making me literally itch to play it, the guy is a legend, don't know what TES or Fallout would be without him.
Honestly the removal of the skill system has been the most contentious part of this game for me, and from what's shown in the video it doesn't seem like the revamped perks will reintroduce enough complexity. Hopefully other parts of the game will make up for it, and I suppose it isn't too much to hope for a "Fallout 4 Overhaul Mod" to come out eventually that will add some more typical progression systems.
+Tom king If you’re a longtime Fallout fan, you’ll notice that the Skills seen in previous games have been folded into this system. The previous Skill system had some confusing parts and ended up spreading your choices too thin. Some of you had questions like: “What’s better, the Charisma SPECIAL, or the Speech Skill? Why are assault rifles in Small Guns?” Additionally many Perks simply raised associated Skills. The Gun Nut Perk in Fallout 3 increased two separate Skills. In Fallout 4, the ranks of Gun Nut act as gates for modifying and crafting weapons. Sneak was a skill in Fallout 3, and you simply increased its value. In Fallout 4 Sneak becomes a Perk that not only makes you harder to detect, but wraps in previous perks like Silent Running and Light Step into its ranks. By wrapping these systems together, it keeps the emphasis on your SPECIALs and the level-up choices more rewarding.
+American Soldier Skills were rather superfluous. I had a hard time really seeing the benefit of some in the increments that I raised them in. Only a dozen or more points (provided you had high intelligence) to divy out among them... Things like Lockpicking and Science capped out at 25-50-75 or 100 and really blocked any benefit from taking noticeable effect for a level or 2. For these, it makes sense they've implemented a ranking system. I like the idea of a noticeable change in how the perk/skill works with each rank. *shrug* Fallout 4 is going to be a treat, regardless. I'm excited for release. Took 7 days (using vacation time) off from work to play. :P
Creating an easier system is not the same as streamlining as quite a lot of people keep trying to point out. Usually streamlining is often when features are removed as they supposedly bog down game play. This is not the case rather the system are simply being re-arranged while still keeping the majority if not all the original systems still in play. The fact of the matter is both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 are meant to be very story oriented whether main or side quests, not having the old supposedly complex systems from the first and second games doesn't mean they are drifting away from the RPG genre at all. People who believe that simply want systems that are overly complex just for the sake that they are complex no matter if they actually add anything to the game or not its the standard bullshit argument I've seen used in so many game series the only one I agree with being is the Witcher 3 as it had systems that were generally great and worked well which were then removed (the main one being potion crafting) Hell this system gives me the abilities and lets me create the character I want while being able to focus on the story being told whether or not it is the main storyline about the vault dweller or some side quest about a man hunting a queen molerat. It's still a damn RPG! I know a significant amount of people are going to flame me for this so, "Please stand by". After all this is the internet.. and the internet never changes.
I had that thought, I played the video back to see if lady killer was a two rank perk, with the next level being the opposite, but it's a three stage perk. Plus it would force people to take the first level to get to the other so it's unlikely.
Just wild speculation pal ;) Maybe charming a person of your gender is a bit harder than the opposite lol. Anyway its unlikely, as you said, because the name is lady killer which implies its use to female.
Steve R. Yeah until the game is out we won't know how it works. Also remember lady killer and black widow didn't have anything to do with romance in 3. That was in new Vegas in which those perks led to anything like that. In 3 it was used to manipulate the opposite sex. Romance could simply be where it's simply your choice to talk about it / pursue it.
This game is gonna be Skyrim 2.0. :/ Just look at the perks. Commando: gain 20% damage with a weapon type. Five ranks total. That's exactly like fucking Skyrim. If you love Skyrim then I'm happy for you cause here's another game you'll love. For those of us who hated Skyrim and considered it a very hollow experience devoid of any real choice or consequence or RPG aspects however....this is immensely disappointing to watch. I won't be buying this game on day one. I'll watch Let's Plays just to make sure I'm not missing out on something surprisingly fresh and fun, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Mojave.
+Longknife No it isn't Muptile ranks do do differnt things for example the sneak perk does give you 30% chance to not be seen but it also gives you new features like slient running and light step.
+Noname Noname : He has a point, though. What else can you add to this beyond that first point which is even useful, or makes the Perk unique/worth investing in further, in any way? Faster reloads/faster firing rate? That's more percentages into a pool versus a solid number for calculation, and overall is useless long-term. Slower wear rate? We don't even know if weapons will degrade in this game after Skyrim took that away. And even if those are true of this Perk tree, who's to say other like Gunslinger, Plasma Spaz or Lazer Commander will not follow similar paths? It's a singular rank build-up system, not a skill enhancement/choice system like we saw in Dungeon Siege 3 or Diablo 3. And no, the magazines they've talked about, of which there are 100 and which enhance certain aspects of certain Perks, are not going to fix this problem. Especially when the examples they've chosen to show of them do percentage increases of certain stats, but little else of substantive value non-number-wise. +Longknife : If what we've heard about this game is true, a read of the strategy guide should be all you need to experience the best parts. I'll be sticking to the Mojave myself as I read it.
+Longknife Completly agree with you mate. I hate Skyrim and I see that Bethesda is taking too many thing from Skyrim to Fallout series. + Commando perk is retarted.
Not a bad thing. Its set up in a way that some pretty massive mods will be able to be made. Sure, we all want things to be great out of the box, but modding is just too fun.
+TheHilariousBard Game design works by having actual mechanics in the game not by stripping them out of your fucking game so the drooling fucksticks out there wont feel as daunted trying ot play it. That's called NOT having game design something Bethesda has perfected ever since Oblivion. Content wide as an ocean, shallow as a wading pool. They won't even spend some of the money from the GTA type sales they get now to hire more than the same half a dozen shitty voiceactors or someone to actually make the industry worst combat or the pitiful mocaps half decent
So they streamlined the leveling system and the dialogue system, but seem to have deepened the gunplay and customization. Alot. I'm digging this.. I don't know why people are pissed at the "casul" leveling system.. If it's fun, it's cool... Except the dialogue system. I'm kinda pissed at that one.
What funny is me and a friend have been discussing how the new character system is going to work. Two days (from this comments date) ago we came up with this exact same idea. It feels good to have perfectly predicted the new character system.
Skills were kind of redundant anyway..... I like that now you can get a perk you want without having to meet so many requirements. Some times you would end up waiting till late game just to have the perk setup you want, which didn't help you along the long road of trying to get there; what's the point of getting to level 40 to have a perk which is less useful now that you are level 40 and have done much of everything in the game.
From the looks of it. I see no reason to hate that it is now condensed. There was always a lot of filler perks in Fallout 3/NV. Most people would usually pick the obvious best ones that you always pick like Bloody Mess over a lot of the less useful ones. Of course the option always remained. Will be interesting to see how it plays out with the "no level cap" since it looks like it has a finite amount of perks, at the moment.
The system looks interesting, to say the least. Whats strange is the perks don't appear to be determined by skills at all, which is surprising. Also, I wonder how modders are going to be able to add their own perks
Might as well call this system O.R.D.I.N.A.R.Y instead of S.P.E.C.I.A.L because you can level up everything. In the end everybody's gonna be the EXACT same a 10, 10, 10, 10. 10, 10, 10, with all 275 perks, yay? So picking your starting S.P.E.C.I.A.L doesn't even matter! Great! Well, let me rephrase it matters for like 6 levels then it doesn't anymore because you can train your special. "What S.P.E.C.I.A.L are you going with guys? I'm going with blah blah blah blah bla what're you doing?" Sorry guys your choices don't matter because we're all the exact SAME bad ass waste lander! Sigh... Sorry for my rant. I'm gonna play the game regardless just aggravating that in the end it doesn't even matter. Tell me your thought's, Preferably without blind hate please? Thanks!
+Vinine It appears as though the choice of special stats will matter for quite a bit into the game seeing that you have to invest a level into either a perk or a stat. Of course at max level every character will be the same but presumably the game will end well before getting to max level (With side quests). I assume getting to max level would consist of farming creatures end game. Of course I could be completely wrong with my assumptions but just a thought.
Belze Buddha In Skyrim to be good at a something you had to atleast use it. In Fallout 4 you can be a master Gunsmen and never even use a gun. To be a master Bowmen in skyrim you have to use it. So yeah... This is a major step back from Skyrim.
+Vinine Since you have to decide if you want to up your special-stats or choose a perk (with unique ranks) you can possibly max everything and be the same as everyone else. But it would take you forever. If your only interessted in your endgame - build i guess thats bad news but i for example enjoy the leveling process and creating new characters, trying out different gameplaystyles. If youre not playing only for the sake of completing everything the new system will allow very different and specialised playstyles early on in the game. And until you reach a level like 50 - 80 (about max-level in previous bethesda-games) your choices will still matter. Ill probably do it anyways but before i start to grind a character to max-special and max-perks ill create way more characters to approach the game completly different from the beginning. I like the system way better than a Skyrim, where youre grinding for your perks by killing stuff or smithing gloves and dagger nonstop. just my opinion. I tend to write way to much and im not a native english speaker. sorry for that
I'm a completionist, I like to do pretty much everything in a game. I played Dragon Age Inquisition for 100 hours and I did pretty much everything. So yeah, I'm willing to play a game for awhile to finish it thoroughly. So this is a big bummer for everyone who likes RPG's and is a completionist like me. I really don't want to be the same as everyone else who likes doing everything. So it's just disappointing. :(
Fallout 4 Notes by Fallout Vet: In Fallout 4 when you level up you can either put a point in your S.P.E.C.I.A.L or pick a perk. For perks you have to be a required level and also have a required SPECIAL # to get that perk. Before you leave Vault 111 you get to customize your SPECIAL numbers you start off with all SPECIAL at 5 and you usually have 5 extra skill points to put in your SPECIAL numbers. Let's say for example C=Charisma is at 5 by default you can either add or take away it skill pints 1 is the lowest number & 10 is the highest number and that's for all SPECIAL. Let's say for my SPECIAL I keep everything at 5 so S=5, P=5, E=5, C=5, I=5, A=5 L=5 Let's use for example Todd Howard saying you can leave vault 111 with C=10 this is possible by taking away points in let's say I=Intelligence would be 1 you take away 4 that means you have 9 extra skill points for SPECIAL so since C=Charisma and it's @ 5 points lets max it out at 10. Now I have 4 extra points to put what ever SPECIAL I want it's really up to you and what you want to have your character to be I hope this makes since :3
This is such a better system! It's how it always should've been done. Something I can't work out if you guys at Bethesda can answer, the news post on your site talks about how magazines give you singular perks now are they temporary like the previous games or are they permanent?
Looking at this, you'll notice the top of each tree is a "training" for each of the SPECIAL perks, each with 10 ranks. Does this mean we will be able to rank up all of our SPECIAL stats to 10 as we level up? Or can we only use the training perk once per SPECIAL stat?
I've figured out the real true GOAL of vault-tec. The real reason they did what they did inside the vaults. To create the ultimate survivors. To test humans in multiple states of insanity from overcoming vices, to building super soldiers as children, to freezing people only to be let out hundreds of years after the bombs dropped. That was to preserve viable human DNA I think. So long as the security and scientists worked together and came to terms with their roles in the process for the bigger picture. How come it was only a couple decades for vault 76? That's the rawest form of Vault-Tec goal right there. (They need to add a "baby making" mechanic) The devil is in the outcome. Every character you play as in any fallout game is a damn beast. And they're all equipped with a vault tec pipboy with the S.P.E.C.I.A.L tree. That helps them to survive better in, evidently, in any post apocalyptic wasteland. Anyone who's even had the chance to get their hands on a pipboy that made it out of the vault. Someone born from the outside, became just apex humans. Killing without mercy so long as their life were at stake. Which happens quite a lot. And the choice part of the whole game is beyond the goal of vault tec. That part is on Bethesda. But yea. Vault tec wanted to put people in the most extreme states of danger or insanity that, when they overcame it, were free to leave. They anticipated the length until the surface would be habitable. So the tests were planned to take decades. In some cases, centuries. Vault-Tec was truly looking out for humanity. Breeding the strong from the weak. And giving them all they need to survive. What they do onward, is up to them. So long as humanity can somehow prosper once again. Knowing very well what the Great War will do to the world. They were the good guys.
I only have one more want from this game. Let us disable the character's voice. That's it. Then it'll be 11/10. but if it's not in it'll still be a 10/10 so y'know
Where are the skills? The derived stats? Seriously, we'll have SPECAIL and some perks and that's it? Bethesda knows how to demolish a game franchise.... Hope it will not turn out like Skyrim.
This system is genius, now you don't need to unlock a bunch of previous perks to get to the one you want. so long as you have the SPECIAL you can unlock it from the get go.
I really love the little animations and sound effects, they're adorable. Also love how the perks are allocated to each SPECIAL, and the ranks of each perk. It does makes the perks more organised and consistent to your SPECIAL. Although I'm still a bit concerned about how the lack of Skills would work out in this game.
Wow nice. Skyrim style number inflation instead of gameplay changing effects. Plus 1% to crit. Sick. Totally fun and cool inflating my stats in a game where I can just unload a machine gun into someones face. Gonna be great saving that 1 extra bullet. Sounds like an interesting system.
Time to stop the video on every single frame!
+DennisJ (The Last Methbender) Seen you commenting on TYT as well :)
Lol
They released the full chart on the Bethesda blog page.
+DennisJ (The Last Methbender) meh mrmatty will do some big rundown thing on them all lol
+Keith Nastaga May I have a link, please, good sir? Thank you!
Those animated images are just so fucking neato.
+Pastaspace I know right? That alone makes me feel like this is a next generation Fallout game.
+Pastaspace and the little sounds, so cool
I can't wait to use that damn Pipboy!!
looks like the new Pip-Boy has neato sound effects, too. ☺
+Minor Elite A cartoon makes you think it's a next-game? Maybe if you've been blind for the past 20 years.
Can't wait for Matty to do a 12-hour long analysis where he completely overspeculates
He did a 10 minute long analysis already
It's called speculation for a reason.
+Nate Richards what the hell are you supposed to do then? "oh heres this frame, oh look another state...hmmm thats cool...uhuh, nice"
he's a youtuber that mainly puts out fallout content and cross examines and analyzes fallout 4 news and content.
***** theres also thelonewanderer and a few others I believe, he's just the most prominent I guess. Having trouble understanding why, maybe he just puts out the news faster maybe. Its just another comment shtick like so and so brought me here and other nonsense
Todd Howard's voice is better than Morgan Freeman and Bob Ross combined
+CheddarBacon #gay4todd
Aried Byrd The best part is, no one can argue
***** Kinda.
Todd Howard is full of crap.
+Jxudo Todd Howard is full of Awesomeness.
I think Bethesda owns about 15,000 hours of my life, already.
Here's to 20!
+MakoRuu For me, probably about 1,000 hours, but I really haven't been alive for long.
I've been playing Bethesda games since Daggerfall in 96'. lol
So that's.. ..
Daggerfall
Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
All games with all available DLC and expansion adds up to about 13 - 15k hours.
Daggerfall and Morrowind being the longest games they've ever made. (Daggerfall still has the largest map of any game ever made to this day.)
I must have played Morrowind for five years...
Burned my Xbox out playing Morrowind. lol
MakoRuu Bethesda only published New Vegas, Obsidian developed it. So im not sure if it counts, but imma list the ones ive played IN ORDER!
Fallout 3
Skyrim (including Dawngaurd DLC
Oblivion (No DLC)
Fallout New Vegas (All DLC [If it Fallout NV counts as Bethesda])
Morrowind (No DLC)
Eh..Obsidian Entertaining is a Bethesda Softworks subsidiary company. lol
MakoRuu Oh really?
0.1% of the comments: "I prefer the old system"
99.9% of the comments: "MAN WHY THE HELL ARE SO MANY PEOPLE FREAKING HATING ON THIS?!?!?! WE'RE MOVING ON I MEAN LIKE HELLOUUU, DEAL WITH IT!!!!!1"
+Epsilon wat
+Epsilon I prefer the old system
Marksman Frost Ew why.
Noname Noname Personally I'd say you can do more with the old system than this new system which just seems like a dumbed down version. Also the mechanics they are adding from Skyrim don't seem that good such as the lockpick system in where you can unlock every door type without having to have leveled up your lockpicking. The old system made more sense in my opinion and last but not least I really dislike the retarded crit system where there are no random crits anymore which I think is stupid.
Marksman Frost Skyrim Lockpick system is fine anyone should be able to pick a lock it just should be harder the better you get the more easy it is.
And how is this system dumbed down they made S.P.E.C.I.A;L more important than Fallout 3/NV
AND THERE ARE STILL RANDOM CRITS WHO TOLD YOU THERE WEREN'T ANY RANDOM CRITS?
Needing more gameplay of this game is like crack to me
+bokay Me too. And I just got my fix.
Bathesda give us gameplay before this man dies
Lol me too
+sultan majid no bethesda give us a full game new!!
Allllll bow down for godd howard
Mrmatty coming with in depth analysis in a heartbeat
You'll be watching it too
yeah
Mitch Charles you too
Used to watch his vids but he got to be a bit irritating after awhile.
+AKSebi2 Can we fuck off with these comments? A fallout 4 news channel is obviously going to cover anything he can get.
Fucking KILLING ME, Bethesda!! Omg I need this GAME NOW!! Penetrate ME and don't be gentle, bruh! ♥ x}
SAME. SAAAAME
I would just enjoy to have to game copy I don't know about the rest
+brownsugarcandie2007 God damn, calm down. lol It's not hard to find ways to busy yourself until November 10th... Like making a small armory of Fallout weapon props.
Bakamoichigei NO, thanks! I don't have time to calm down for a game I've been waiting YEARS for. I'll keep being HYPED. Yes there are other games, but I will still be hyped! LET ME, be hyped, thank you! :-)
*>Keeps scrolling down as fast as possible
Well, this is gonna fuck with my usual 10 intelligence 5 everything else build. Ah well, it was pretty op in previous games after all.
+stefanfr13 Same here.
+stefanfr13 well you could proberly also upgrade your special's
so make a different playthough for once in your life lol why would u want to play this game just like u played the last ones, its barely even the same. im doing everything differently on purpose
+kab hes I think they said you can unlock all 275 perk levels, so that would mean levelling up specials. I could be wrong though
+stefanfr13 High INT was a waste of special points in NV, since you could max all skills with a score no higher than 4. Then again, special points were good only for meeting perk requirements or roleplaying.
WHERE IS TOASTER REPAIR
IM GOING TO FIX EVERY GODDAMN TOASTER IN THIS HOUSE
+Misaka Mikoto Not if The Evil Toaster and his electric heating coils of doom can help it HAHAHA
WHERE THE FUCK IS PICK NOSE.
+Misaka Mikoto That's Wasteland 2 dummy.
YOUR DREAMS ARE FAR FETCHED
+Misaka Mikoto Wasteland 2 :)
One thing I found weird in this was that the lone wanderer perk was under charisma.
It probably was made as a reference, since Bethesda also made FO3 themselves and in that game you also come from a Vault.
+FORMINCRAFTIA Yea, I just mean charisma is a measure of how well you relate to others, so why is it host to the perk that helps you be alone? :D
+Aetrion That's because it requires 3 charisma which is garbage. 3 out of a possible 10. If your charisma is that low or higher you are able to pick the lone wanderer perk.
+Aetrion I think it's a nice thing they put it there.
If you play a rogue or assassin, you still want an incentive to have charisma to be a persuasive little india-jones while in cities, but you won't bring a clingy dog that's going to get you detected everywhere you go. It allows for stealthy characters to have a reasonable reason to invest in charisma and not be an ugly little fuck.
And we don't know what the level 2 or 3 does.
Plus, there is something romantic and epic about being a lone wasteland wanderer, and I think that definitelly fits under charisma.
OMG 46 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That means I've got 46 more days to build me first gaming PC!!!!
+Tyler Dowd Can't wait until I can pre-download it, so it is ready for launch. Thanks to steam and bethesda for not making me wait to download the game!
+Tyler Dowd Can't wait until I can pre-download it, so it is ready for launch. Thanks to steam and bethesda for not making me wait to download the game!
Nba 2k16 will hold me over until then
+Tyler Dowd I would take it in the ass to cut that time in half.
If I see another mufaca talkin' shit about Mr. Matty I'm gonna do nothing about it as usual.
+Legion Geth Mr. Matty sucks. Piece of paper, confirmed. Pencil confirmed. Guns confirmed...
+MrSalambard gnome? Why a gnome?
+TheDarKnight 57 gay confirmed
+TheDarKnight 57 To you.
+Legion Geth I don't like him, he's quite annoying, doing an in depth analsis would be way more fun (not that much of a challenge anyway) and would just take you watching the video again.
Everyone's super excited, but I'm kinda wary of there being no skill points any more. Just special and perks from what I've seen. Are skills tied directly to special stats? Or does my character just get to be awesome at everything from the start?
+SoSezTheDude Welcome to the simplified, casualized Fallout experience.
+SoSezTheDude There is a Level Bar at the bottom of the pip boy screen which would lead me to believe there must be skill points in this game to reach a new level and unlock new perks.
Fallout 4 is more geared towards SPECIAL like the older games and anyway, the skill system was pathetic. I could be the master of science and yet still have the intelligence of one, I could be a real smooth talker/merchant and have the charisma of a hermit. This way, it makes sense. It was way too easy to max out all the skills and be just a god in fallout 3 and New vegas. At least from what we're seeing here it'll require a lot more thinking rather than dumping all your points into one skill. Todd did say though you can have everything on one character but it takes an extreme amount of time.
+Shinichi Mechazawa The fuck are you talking about?
+No words Only dreams. I think that there were better ways to fix that. Someone in the comments here suggested a system where your max points in a skill are capped based on the related S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stat, and that's a pretty good idea, honestly. Or, for an alternative, make it take more points to raise the level of a skill, the lower the related stat is, because let's be honest, in the real world, people _do_ overcome their disadvantages to become good at something through sheer practice and determination, sometimes. Couple either one or both of Capped Levels and Slowed Improvement to a system where you improve skills by using them (ala TES), to counter the "How did I get good at something I've never done?" question, and you'd already be most of the way to a skill system that improves on the original without taking mechanics away.
It is amazing how many people are scared of innovation
+Mitch Charles I wouldn't quite say its innovation. If something isn't broken you don't fix it, its as simple as that. It feels like Bethesda is trying to reinvent the wheel with this.
+Moebs Chan (Moobs) since when is "reinventing the wheel" ever a bad thing... every time that has ever happened has been the greatest moment of history lmao
+Mitch Charles or they liked the old system and don't like what is basically removing a core feature of fallout since the first game in favor of modern gaming perk bullshit where everything you do is improved by perks and not a skill system. you don't get better at shooting guns you pick a perk that has some effect that makes gunplay better.
this makes fallout more like far cry then an rpg.
+Moebs Chan (Moobs) If something isn't broken you still try and see if it can be better. It's called innovation.
Martin Smith the world isnt where it is today because people thought "eh its been good enough for the past 10 years, no need to try and improve it at all, it'll do"
Any chance that having certain stats at certain levels change your character model, like say having a full 10 strength make your character look significantly bulkier than if they only had, say, 1?
Or is that too much for the engine?
Would be nice. I would do a strength build if it meant my dude would have massive pecs
+MadDemon64 If they don't have it in game, I really hope someone makes a mod to do that !
+MadDemon64 I thought it was like that first when he had 1 in Agility in one of his plays and the character ran like a mongoloid, but then when he had a higher number in agility and the character still ran like a mongoloid it was obvious that was not the case.
So nah that stuff is not there, doubt you will get the fun stuff as it was in the past when you picked Intelligence 1 and the dialouge was dumb down, especially now with voiced protagonist, doubt they had to speak lines where they were Intelligence 1. Another set back with the voiced protagonist.
+MadDemon64 no plz dont lol that shit ruins the game lol unless they have an option to take it off. look at how Sims 4 did it with when you get the body/atheltic all the way up to 10 you look like a fucking body builder and its gross as fuck
Oh please I hope not Fable 2 did that and although my girl was a one hit one kill it made her look like she was on steroids.
WHY IS IT NOT 11/10/15 ALREADY?!!!
+WanderingTaoist101 why is it not 10/11/15!
Wondering why it isnt: America = 11.10.2015 already
Rest of the world = 10.11.2015
+YellowBanana rest of the world has to wait a whole 24 hours more lol
+WanderingTaoist101 Cause time space continuum bruh
+IDK Creations thts not how it works we get it the same day in fact because of time zones we get the game first since well timezones and shit like that.
As a fan of old school fallout and new fallout there are some changes I like here. I like the fact that they've separated the different gun types through the perks. So now you can't just spec into guns and become good at using every gun in the game from snipers to pistols like you could in new vegas, now your character will be good at bolt action rifles only or assault rifles only encouraging different character builds, I think it's a good change. Maybe in Obsidian's next fallout game they'll bring back the old system or combine the new and the old into a completely new leveling system.
+Paladin Waffles see your not the usual crybaby old fans saying ITS NOT LIKE FALLOUT 1 OR 2 im just the guy happy their all special in their own way
+Paladin Waffles
Obsidian will probably stick with it and throw Traits on top of it. And you're right, this is more in-line with the earlier games. Which is flat-out ironic.
+Paladin Waffles What makes you think that Obsidian is going to make another Fallout? They have an MMO to develop and manage now (Armored Warfare).
+Oblivion'sLegend yeah we don't know for sure if they'll make a new fallout but I really hope they do
+freaskydoodle999 BUT ITS NOT FALLOUT 2! JK, but I would like if they remade those games, because not only are they fun games, but most people don't even know wtf the enclave is, or why they should be stopped if they hadn't played FO2
I cant wait to throw my life away when Fallout 4 comes out :D
Fk yes welcome to the club!
Pretty Much
:D x10
+FearlessFlourish wayy too many multiplayer games, other than Halo 5 i just want fallout 4 and that's it. I need to be able to fully sink into the world of nuclear fallout.
Drumma Dre
exactly.
Prepare for the hype trainwreck!
I took a moment to pause between all three ranks of intimidation.... they nailed it.
+De Thorn Can't wait to build an arena and use Intimidation, Animal Friend, and Wasteland Whisperer to gather "Contestants" :D
Stringbean Brilliant idea dude :D
+Stringbean I will call that build, "The mans1ay3r".
SlyBiffrons
I better be able to make them bash butts.
Stringbean As well as deez nuts.
Yeah but Todd.... does it just work?
+Paul Looney probably does you know them being good at making games that work and all.
+Paul Looney It just works -Todd
+Paul Looney i laughed way too hard at this
+Paul Looney See that mountain? You can climb that mountain.
+Paul Looney : On a basic level, it will. Problem is, they're using a skill system that is streamlined even further from the Elder Scrolls model, which wasn't well thought out given how easily one could game the leveling system by spam-crafting. And if the system is set up this way, you're setting up problems with the Perks you want versus the derived attributes your SPECIAL points affect.
And removing Skills, as per Beth's blog post, is laziness of the highest order. They've given Skills their own Perks in the past, in Oblivion no less. What was stopping them from doing that here, and keeping the Perks divorced from SPECIAL? Even with what they've said about how they remold every new game's system, that idea was fine, though in need of a few alterations.
I just love RPG-skill based games, and Fallout 4 taking the character progression in it's game seriously this time, is just awesome
So much new stuff! Time to analyze and pause 1000 times to absorb all the new info!
I already know how I'ma start off, max out Intelligence and Charisma. I like being able to hack terminals and silver tongue my way through situations
Then all of your other skills are going to be one.
3, actually. You start with 30 SPECIAL points and one point in each by default. That means 2 extra points for the others.
I'm gonna do high agility and intelligence, and lower physical skills. I like being stealthy/maneuverable.
Oh, I thought it was 20
I'll end up maxing all the other skills eventually since there is no level cap.
+ZackRToler I believe there will be a restriction on maxing stuff up, like being able to max only 3 SPECIALS
Wow, thanks Bethesda for simplifying fucking everything and neutering the core RPG aspect of the game. I know you're appealing more to casual gamers, but this is just sad. It's kind of hilarious when the first Fallout game has more customization than this.
Oh well. Fanboys will eat it up regardless. They'll find a way to make me look like a hater or something.
bruh i know its been 5 years but old system was worse by rpg standarts since int is op and charisma and perception are useless except for perk requirements. fallout 4 makes a new dynamic system where every special stat is important and takes away unnecessary point system because there is lockips only upgraded every 25 points . it was just easier and more practical to have them as perks as now you can ask companions to hack or lockpick for you. fallout 4 is way more customisable since there are mods like exceptional skills if you want the old system while old games are well old (doesnt make them bad but dated for sure)
@@CharmedReally7 I Agree
This is fux0r1ng 4m4z1ng. Was a bit worried at first about removing skills, but as it turns out, Bethesballs did flatten the system in Skyrim (into Skill Trees & Perks), and in this case they flattened it into SPECIAL Attributes & Perks. So it's essentially the same type of class flatness. It worked in Skyrim, so it should work here.
+Culveyhouse Here read this
"If you’re a longtime Fallout fan, you’ll notice that the Skills seen in previous games have been folded into this system. The previous Skill system had some confusing parts and ended up spreading your choices too thin. Some of you had questions like: “What’s better, the Charisma SPECIAL, or the Speech Skill? Why are assault rifles in Small Guns?” Additionally many Perks simply raised associated Skills. The Gun Nut Perk in Fallout 3 increased two separate Skills. In Fallout 4, the ranks of Gun Nut act as gates for modifying and crafting weapons. Sneak was a skill in Fallout 3, and you simply increased its value. In Fallout 4 Sneak becomes a Perk that not only makes you harder to detect, but wraps in previous perks like Silent Running and Light Step into its ranks. By wrapping these systems together, it keeps the emphasis on your SPECIALs and the level-up choices more rewarding."
Awesome. I was worried too for the simple reason that I didn't know what it would be like but now I'm really excited.
So basically it's exactly the same perk and attribute system, only with skills completely removed. Thanks Todd.
+Mike the Man Yes? The only difference is now there are more ranks to more perks, in previous games there were even a handful of perks that were the same way.
***** How exactly? By removing an entire layer of customization, the game is only going to become even less complex. It's one thing improving a system, it's another stripping off vital parts of it.
+Derzak the skills aren't necessarily removed though.. Just streamlined into the SPECIAL attributes. Perhaps you don't like that, which is fine I guess, I don't mind at all and I'm willing to see how it pans out. Just making sure you know what's going on.
Eric Bueno
I think everyone's main concern is the whole game being Skyrim-ed. Which I am very wary of, and is the main reason I'm waiting to buy.
*****
Opinions cant be wrong, he doesn't like this system, that's his opinion. You can't just shout WRONG because he doesn't share your opinion. Why do you keep referring to Fallout 3 like it's the only fallout game in existence, or like it's the only one that had skills. They ALL had skills. This is a system that has been in five previous games.
IV has come to.
+DSchzDS hell ya. imma keep playin that until this comes out
+Bethesda Softworks yea don't trust this
+Bethesda Softworks Yeah seems legit...
I'll probably seem like an idiot for asking, but...what is that?
@@DehOtherGuy it's a reference to metal gear solid v
I paused the video at the beginning, just so I could stare at the scenery for 5 minutes GOD this game is going to be so awesome !
Before Fallout 4 Trailer :I need a girlfriend,i spend to much time on computer After Fallout 4 Trailer :I need a copy of Fallout 4,nuclear war is coming Lesson:The war can kill the love
You don't need a gf maybe before fallout 4 yes but when fallout 4 drops be like see yeah bitch I don't need you anymore I can see a lot of ppl breaking up with each other when Fallout 4 drops in a month!
Pretty Much So true :D
So with V.A.N.S, quest markers are now optional???
I have a feeling it's more like that spell in Skyrim that actually shows the path, rather than just the location.
+Giggidy Pop I think it's a specific path on the ground like clairvoyance in skyrim
+Lance Pearson Yes, that. Sorry, I hadn't seen your comment when I posted mine. lol
Jason Flieger Your comment didn't even show up for me before mine but you posted before me, so its all good.
+Lance Pearson so basically it's a useless perk.
One of the perks is "The path to your closest quest target is displayed in VATS". Does that mean no quest makers? Are we going full Morrowind?
heres to hpping compass markers are gone and the only map markers are in your pipboy.
I hope so. I liked looking around for someone in Morrowind as opposed to having it pointed out.
+8jb65 No because that would be too difficult for the children who's first Bethesda made game was Fallout 3 or Oblivion.
mcdonkey500 its an 18 game the earliest youd be able to playit was about 15.
+8jb65 VATS is not compass. VATS is something you use to shoot things. That perk probably means that you'll see a distance to your target while using VATS to shoot at them. As for the quest target... not sure about this one.
That Gun Nut image sums up this video for most of us.
Thanks bethesda.
Yes it give us many different ways to build our character
Because since there's no level cap you can have everything in your first playthrough!
itl take up to more than 200 levels to unlock every perk , i dont think many people even play that much to get to that level in one playthrough
I hope the next video will be about how they've cancelled the dialogue wheel, and added actual conversation options like 3 and new vegas
Just one question... Todd, will you marry me?
Cool, but I want to see some new character creation gameplay.
That's what I thought this video would be
Abigail Weller We've been gypped!
Fallout 4 "who needs friends anyway" lol
A six week coma would be nice right about now. T_T
+Aumars lol
Ikr
todd howard! I was afraid we wouldnt hear his voice again until TES 6
Every time I look at something Fallout, my mind just goes to that song that stayed with since E3.
All of the 14 year olds that seem to be eating this up and don't see the problem are frightening.
Shut the fuck up, it's called change. You expect every fallout game to have the same system for the rest of eternity? No, shit gets boring that way, this new system will make character builds way more diverse.
You eather like it or you dont, the majority of people like it, deal with it
+squirtleninja The skills weren't even that good of a system why are you complaining? (If you're talking about that)
+squirtleninja gr8 b8 m8
IT JUST WORKS
well we know mrmatty's next video
So many times in the months before Bethesda games, i have sat here listening to Todd Howard and had him explain the latest game, making me literally itch to play it, the guy is a legend, don't know what TES or Fallout would be without him.
Honestly the removal of the skill system has been the most contentious part of this game for me, and from what's shown in the video it doesn't seem like the revamped perks will reintroduce enough complexity. Hopefully other parts of the game will make up for it, and I suppose it isn't too much to hope for a "Fallout 4 Overhaul Mod" to come out eventually that will add some more typical progression systems.
+Tom king If you’re a longtime Fallout fan, you’ll notice that the Skills seen in previous games have been folded into this system. The previous Skill system had some confusing parts and ended up spreading your choices too thin. Some of you had questions like: “What’s better, the Charisma SPECIAL, or the Speech Skill? Why are assault rifles in Small Guns?” Additionally many Perks simply raised associated Skills. The Gun Nut Perk in Fallout 3 increased two separate Skills. In Fallout 4, the ranks of Gun Nut act as gates for modifying and crafting weapons. Sneak was a skill in Fallout 3, and you simply increased its value. In Fallout 4 Sneak becomes a Perk that not only makes you harder to detect, but wraps in previous perks like Silent Running and Light Step into its ranks. By wrapping these systems together, it keeps the emphasis on your SPECIALs and the level-up choices more rewarding.
+Noname Noname Ok, we can stop quoting that, it doesn't make it any more complex just because barter is a Charisma 2 perk
Devouring_One No
Noname Noname I know its true, it just gets annoying how much its repeatedly quoted, explain it in your own words next time ok?
+Devouring_One why would he do that when someone else is going to say exactly what he wanted to say?
Too be honest I miss the old system.
+American Soldier I kinda do and I kinda don't...Let's see where Bethesda takes this system.
+filipinowhiteboy I feel the same but ready for a bit of change
+American Soldier Skills were rather superfluous. I had a hard time really seeing the benefit of some in the increments that I raised them in. Only a dozen or more points (provided you had high intelligence) to divy out among them... Things like Lockpicking and Science capped out at 25-50-75 or 100 and really blocked any benefit from taking noticeable effect for a level or 2. For these, it makes sense they've implemented a ranking system. I like the idea of a noticeable change in how the perk/skill works with each rank. *shrug* Fallout 4 is going to be a treat, regardless. I'm excited for release. Took 7 days (using vacation time) off from work to play. :P
+Tomay321 they could have always stopped tiering lockpicking and science, which would actually have been pretty easy
Anyone else notice the car symbol on the compass, right before God Howard introduced the perks?
MrMatty joke here
I need to switch to porn... i think my loud moaning while watching this will be too hard to explain othervise...
Putrid Pansy
What has autism to do with porn? And im serious, its not meant to be funny!
+Putrid Pansy yeesh pansy eat a snickers bar
Putrid Pansy no need to be bitchy, just sayin
+Putrid Pansy Apparently Pansy's go to response is Autism
HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL
Creating an easier system is not the same as streamlining as quite a lot of people keep trying to point out. Usually streamlining is often when features are removed as they supposedly bog down game play. This is not the case rather the system are simply being re-arranged while still keeping the majority if not all the original systems still in play. The fact of the matter is both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 are meant to be very story oriented whether main or side quests, not having the old supposedly complex systems from the first and second games doesn't mean they are drifting away from the RPG genre at all.
People who believe that simply want systems that are overly complex just for the sake that they are complex no matter if they actually add anything to the game or not its the standard bullshit argument I've seen used in so many game series the only one I agree with being is the Witcher 3 as it had systems that were generally great and worked well which were then removed (the main one being potion crafting)
Hell this system gives me the abilities and lets me create the character I want while being able to focus on the story being told whether or not it is the main storyline about the vault dweller or some side quest about a man hunting a queen molerat. It's still a damn RPG!
I know a significant amount of people are going to flame me for this so, "Please stand by".
After all this is the internet..
and the internet never changes.
Please tell me I'm just seeing this wrong and that both genders can get both seduction perks like in NV.
I'm 99% sure Bethesda said you could romance either gender. I'm sure it's doable somehow. Sorry I don't have the link available.
Maybe you'll get it in a later level of LADY KILLER perk... just maybe..
I had that thought, I played the video back to see if lady killer was a two rank perk, with the next level being the opposite, but it's a three stage perk. Plus it would force people to take the first level to get to the other so it's unlikely.
Just wild speculation pal ;)
Maybe charming a person of your gender is a bit harder than the opposite lol.
Anyway its unlikely, as you said, because the name is lady killer which implies its use to female.
Steve R. Yeah until the game is out we won't know how it works. Also remember lady killer and black widow didn't have anything to do with romance in 3. That was in new Vegas in which those perks led to anything like that. In 3 it was used to manipulate the opposite sex. Romance could simply be where it's simply your choice to talk about it / pursue it.
This game is gonna be Skyrim 2.0. :/
Just look at the perks. Commando: gain 20% damage with a weapon type. Five ranks total. That's exactly like fucking Skyrim.
If you love Skyrim then I'm happy for you cause here's another game you'll love. For those of us who hated Skyrim and considered it a very hollow experience devoid of any real choice or consequence or RPG aspects however....this is immensely disappointing to watch. I won't be buying this game on day one. I'll watch Let's Plays just to make sure I'm not missing out on something surprisingly fresh and fun, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Mojave.
+Longknife No it isn't Muptile ranks do do differnt things for example the sneak perk does give you 30% chance to not be seen but it also gives you new features like slient running and light step.
+Noname Noname : He has a point, though. What else can you add to this beyond that first point which is even useful, or makes the Perk unique/worth investing in further, in any way?
Faster reloads/faster firing rate? That's more percentages into a pool versus a solid number for calculation, and overall is useless long-term.
Slower wear rate? We don't even know if weapons will degrade in this game after Skyrim took that away.
And even if those are true of this Perk tree, who's to say other like Gunslinger, Plasma Spaz or Lazer Commander will not follow similar paths? It's a singular rank build-up system, not a skill enhancement/choice system like we saw in Dungeon Siege 3 or Diablo 3.
And no, the magazines they've talked about, of which there are 100 and which enhance certain aspects of certain Perks, are not going to fix this problem. Especially when the examples they've chosen to show of them do percentage increases of certain stats, but little else of substantive value non-number-wise.
+Longknife : If what we've heard about this game is true, a read of the strategy guide should be all you need to experience the best parts. I'll be sticking to the Mojave myself as I read it.
Longknife Well I hope you like grinding. To level 275 to unlock everything.
+Noname Noname Which in and of itself is yet another stupid mechanic. It just gets needlessly tedious. It's just terrible all around, in my opinion.
+Longknife Completly agree with you mate. I hate Skyrim and I see that Bethesda is taking too many thing from Skyrim to Fallout series. + Commando perk is retarted.
Not a bad thing. Its set up in a way that some pretty massive mods will be able to be made. Sure, we all want things to be great out of the box, but modding is just too fun.
did anyone else see the car icon? drive-able vehicles?
you sir/madame just made my day
+sadosify V.A.N.S. - Let Vault-Tec guide you! The path to your closest quest target is displayed in V.A.T.S. 1:08
I really, really hope so
"You spend a lot of time in our games looking at your stats..."
You mean the ones you "lovingly hand stripped" from TES: Skyrim?
+TheHilariousBard HURRDURR IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T PLAY IT
Fuck off you drone. I bet you would buy anything Todd Howard shilled to you.
+mcdonkey500
I probably would. He hasn't let me down so far.
+mcdonkey500 *Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy Godd Todd in vain*
+Luluko Lamperouge 'wont buy it but still play it' hope you don't plan to do that look what happened to serious sam 3
+TheHilariousBard Game design works by having actual mechanics in the game not by stripping them out of your fucking game so the drooling fucksticks out there wont feel as daunted trying ot play it. That's called NOT having game design something Bethesda has perfected ever since Oblivion. Content wide as an ocean, shallow as a wading pool.
They won't even spend some of the money from the GTA type sales they get now to hire more than the same half a dozen shitty voiceactors or someone to actually make the industry worst combat or the pitiful mocaps half decent
So they streamlined the leveling system and the dialogue system, but seem to have deepened the gunplay and customization. Alot. I'm digging this.. I don't know why people are pissed at the "casul" leveling system.. If it's fun, it's cool... Except the dialogue system. I'm kinda pissed at that one.
Trade offs
I love how it's the red-head who gets shot for Bloody Mess. lol even after the apocalypse we can't catch a break.
As soon as I heard Todd's voice, waves of ecstasy flooded my body
i really hope there's an option to turn off the sound, or even to just have still images because i think that stuff would drive me crazy
Has anyone else ever noticed how much Todd Howard sounds like Rickety Cricket from It's Always Sunny?
I like the look of the new perks menu, it's strange seeing a menu that isn't green and electronic.
What funny is me and a friend have been discussing how the new character system is going to work. Two days (from this comments date) ago we came up with this exact same idea. It feels good to have perfectly predicted the new character system.
Todd Howard = Gaming God. Just hearing his voice comforts me!
Skills were kind of redundant anyway..... I like that now you can get a perk you want without having to meet so many requirements. Some times you would end up waiting till late game just to have the perk setup you want, which didn't help you along the long road of trying to get there; what's the point of getting to level 40 to have a perk which is less useful now that you are level 40 and have done much of everything in the game.
From the looks of it. I see no reason to hate that it is now condensed. There was always a lot of filler perks in Fallout 3/NV. Most people would usually pick the obvious best ones that you always pick like Bloody Mess over a lot of the less useful ones. Of course the option always remained.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out with the "no level cap" since it looks like it has a finite amount of perks, at the moment.
Gotta say, I was expecting a sith light saber on the like bar based on the title itself.
The system looks interesting, to say the least. Whats strange is the perks don't appear to be determined by skills at all, which is surprising. Also, I wonder how modders are going to be able to add their own perks
Time for mrMattyplays's 34 minute discussion about this
Might as well call this system O.R.D.I.N.A.R.Y instead of S.P.E.C.I.A.L because you can level up everything. In the end everybody's gonna be the EXACT same a 10, 10, 10, 10. 10, 10, 10, with all 275 perks, yay? So picking your starting S.P.E.C.I.A.L doesn't even matter! Great! Well, let me rephrase it matters for like 6 levels then it doesn't anymore because you can train your special. "What S.P.E.C.I.A.L are you going with guys? I'm going with blah blah blah blah bla what're you doing?" Sorry guys your choices don't matter because we're all the exact SAME bad ass waste lander! Sigh... Sorry for my rant. I'm gonna play the game regardless just aggravating that in the end it doesn't even matter. Tell me your thought's, Preferably without blind hate please? Thanks!
+Vinine It appears as though the choice of special stats will matter for quite a bit into the game seeing that you have to invest a level into either a perk or a stat. Of course at max level every character will be the same but presumably the game will end well before getting to max level (With side quests). I assume getting to max level would consist of farming creatures end game. Of course I could be completely wrong with my assumptions but just a thought.
+Vinine Nonono Skyrim is way worse, with no STATS at all. Im glad what F4 will atleast retain SPECIAL stats wich are pretty important
Belze Buddha In Skyrim to be good at a something you had to atleast use it. In Fallout 4 you can be a master Gunsmen and never even use a gun. To be a master Bowmen in skyrim you have to use it. So yeah... This is a major step back from Skyrim.
+Vinine Since you have to decide if you want to up your special-stats or choose a perk (with unique ranks) you can possibly max everything and be the same as everyone else. But it would take you forever. If your only interessted in your endgame - build i guess thats bad news but i for example enjoy the leveling process and creating new characters, trying out different gameplaystyles. If youre not playing only for the sake of completing everything the new system will allow very different and specialised playstyles early on in the game. And until you reach a level like 50 - 80 (about max-level in previous bethesda-games) your choices will still matter. Ill probably do it anyways but before i start to grind a character to max-special and max-perks ill create way more characters to approach the game completly different from the beginning. I like the system way better than a Skyrim, where youre grinding for your perks by killing stuff or smithing gloves and dagger nonstop. just my opinion.
I tend to write way to much and im not a native english speaker. sorry for that
I'm a completionist, I like to do pretty much everything in a game. I played Dragon Age Inquisition for 100 hours and I did pretty much everything. So yeah, I'm willing to play a game for awhile to finish it thoroughly. So this is a big bummer for everyone who likes RPG's and is a completionist like me. I really don't want to be the same as everyone else who likes doing everything. So it's just disappointing. :(
The name of the character was Albert, please tell me I'm not the only member of the chestbreach army that got incredibly excited about that?
Fallout 4 Notes by Fallout Vet:
In Fallout 4 when you level up you can either put a point in your S.P.E.C.I.A.L or pick a perk. For perks you have to be a required level and also have a required SPECIAL # to get that perk. Before you leave Vault 111 you get to customize your SPECIAL numbers you start off with all SPECIAL at 5 and you usually have 5 extra skill points to put in your SPECIAL numbers. Let's say for example C=Charisma is at 5 by default you can either add or take away it skill pints 1 is the lowest number & 10 is the highest number and that's for all SPECIAL. Let's say for my SPECIAL I keep everything at 5 so S=5, P=5, E=5, C=5, I=5, A=5 L=5
Let's use for example Todd Howard saying you can leave vault 111 with C=10 this is possible by taking away points in let's say I=Intelligence would be 1 you take away 4 that means you have 9 extra skill points for SPECIAL so since C=Charisma and it's @ 5 points lets max it out at 10. Now I have 4 extra points to put what ever SPECIAL I want it's really up to you and what you want to have your character to be I hope this makes since :3
This is such a better system! It's how it always should've been done. Something I can't work out if you guys at Bethesda can answer, the news post on your site talks about how magazines give you singular perks now are they temporary like the previous games or are they permanent?
Looking at this, you'll notice the top of each tree is a "training" for each of the SPECIAL perks, each with 10 ranks. Does this mean we will be able to rank up all of our SPECIAL stats to 10 as we level up? Or can we only use the training perk once per SPECIAL stat?
I've figured out the real true GOAL of vault-tec. The real reason they did what they did inside the vaults. To create the ultimate survivors. To test humans in multiple states of insanity from overcoming vices, to building super soldiers as children, to freezing people only to be let out hundreds of years after the bombs dropped. That was to preserve viable human DNA I think. So long as the security and scientists worked together and came to terms with their roles in the process for the bigger picture. How come it was only a couple decades for vault 76? That's the rawest form of Vault-Tec goal right there. (They need to add a "baby making" mechanic) The devil is in the outcome. Every character you play as in any fallout game is a damn beast. And they're all equipped with a vault tec pipboy with the S.P.E.C.I.A.L tree. That helps them to survive better in, evidently, in any post apocalyptic wasteland. Anyone who's even had the chance to get their hands on a pipboy that made it out of the vault. Someone born from the outside, became just apex humans. Killing without mercy so long as their life were at stake. Which happens quite a lot. And the choice part of the whole game is beyond the goal of vault tec. That part is on Bethesda. But yea. Vault tec wanted to put people in the most extreme states of danger or insanity that, when they overcame it, were free to leave. They anticipated the length until the surface would be habitable. So the tests were planned to take decades. In some cases, centuries.
Vault-Tec was truly looking out for humanity. Breeding the strong from the weak. And giving them all they need to survive. What they do onward, is up to them. So long as humanity can somehow prosper once again. Knowing very well what the Great War will do to the world.
They were the good guys.
Your character, in all fallout games, is evidence of that.
I know what makes you SPECIAL, the ability to adapt. And overcome. Survive.
What do you think about the tv show? Atm, it's cannon
Modders are gonna have a hard time modding perks
0:07, There seems to be a car on the Map thingy, Drive-able cars maybe?? I know the car looks destroyed but it could just be rusty.
1:05
DUAL WIELDING??? (Row: L 06 Column: Luck)
My PS4 ain't ready for this Sexy game.
God Howard's at it again really like the look of the special system in FO4 looks great
Todd Howard's voice is so soothing, like for real I'm not joking. Lol
Awesome. So glad I looked at my youtube before bed. More videos please?
I'm glad that at least some perks do something special when leveld up instead of "perk lvl 1: 10% extra dmg. ; perk lvl 2: 15% extra dmg."
I love you Todd Howard.
Todd Howard takes 1 minute to explain character system your ever takes 20
*sigh*
*zip*
*looks at right hand*
"lets go pal"
Todd Howard, more like Godd Howard amirite?
I only have one more want from this game.
Let us disable the character's voice.
That's it.
Then it'll be 11/10.
but if it's not in it'll still be a 10/10 so y'know
Where are the skills? The derived stats? Seriously, we'll have SPECAIL and some perks and that's it? Bethesda knows how to demolish a game franchise.... Hope it will not turn out like Skyrim.
i didnt think a player interface could make me this rock hard, but here we are
Maybe intimidation could be phantom pain-esque? you know, like WHERE ARE THE OTHERS?!!
Oh My Gerrrrrrrrrrrd. That "PERK CHART"!
This system is genius, now you don't need to unlock a bunch of previous perks to get to the one you want. so long as you have the SPECIAL you can unlock it from the get go.
The new perk chart is so cool
I like the new animated perk tree and pip boy! Favorite perk still has to be bloody mess lol
I really love the little animations and sound effects, they're adorable.
Also love how the perks are allocated to each SPECIAL, and the ranks of each perk. It does makes the perks more organised and consistent to your SPECIAL. Although I'm still a bit concerned about how the lack of Skills would work out in this game.
Wow nice. Skyrim style number inflation instead of gameplay changing effects. Plus 1% to crit. Sick. Totally fun and cool inflating my stats in a game where I can just unload a machine gun into someones face. Gonna be great saving that 1 extra bullet. Sounds like an interesting system.
I'm like a desperate housewife right now. Too much hype, Bethesda. Just...too much hype.
Every hard copy gets a poster now? heck yeah gettin me a poster.