Cheating When Oil Painting - what is allowed and what is not - Oil Painting Advice
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- In this video I discuss what is considered "cheating" when oil painting.
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One of the reasons I subscribe and watch your videos is because you have integrity. It shows in all your videos.
Absolutely! 🎯
completely agree
Bob Ross used to say when you buy your first tube of paint it comes with an artistic license to do whatever you want with it.
good advice, ...except maybe eating the cadmiums!! LOL ;D
But, He was original. Not like this he’s explaining like... And that’s why you can Always find similar or exactly alike paintings 🖼.. because they learn from the same source... not your own original creative source. Regardless perfection. I believe they look perfect like a picture 📸✨with paint on it.. yes. Like a print. Similar... anyway. Nothing like being natural born artist 🎨🧑🏻🎨👨🏻🎨... The rest are free🕊
I used to slave over my huge canvasses squaring up and at times if I got my composition, wrong required extensive reworking, however, I now have a projector and I am liberated. I get my drawing done and can start on what I really want to do Paint
I agree projectors are great for those very difficult compositions. I typically don’t need it for landscape work but for Still life it’s very helpful.
yeah, when working at scale, it doesn't make sense to avoid using a projector
You can’t really draw then?
@@susanmitchell4744 Yes, since times long gone it has been said that drawing is the "foundation" of all art, even sculpture. I guess today it's too much work (a four-letter word to some!) for art students, who look for short cuts and easy ways out. It is also a pleasure in its own right, just to take a pad and pencil and draw something, anything, just for the fricking hell of it, or for practice to hone your skills. Shame some folks are sooooooo lazy today!!
@@susanmitchell4744 what gives you that idea?
There's no such thing as cheating, anybody can paint whatever they want however they want.
The only issue is perhaps when someone false advertises a piece of art that isn’t necessarily produced the way they advertised, but they sell it anyway
It’s about the end product in the end. @@TTundragrizzly
Would you say - copying a 'Rembrandt' & selling it as a 'Rembrandt' is 'cheating' --- 🤔 - just curious - 🙂
Cheating exist when you say was made in one form, but was made in other. Cheating or not is about honesty.
@@Pax.Alotin I advise you to read what I wrote and re read what you post to see how nonsense your post is.
Not telling everything when you're teaching is like giving someone a recipe and leaving out something important. 😊
And remember you're paying for the painting lessons.... so you're being cheated.....
I can't say enough about your teaching when I ran into your videos 4 years ago I felt so grateful for the amount of information you shared so I ordered your paints, purchased an easel, made a color checker, and set out to prove you right, my fiance and friends thought I had been painting for years when say seen the results, unfortunately my hips deteriorated
And I became unemployed lost my business. I had previously started and just couldn't stand or sit for long, and it demoralized me, and I stopped painting. I'm going in for my second hip replacement and look forward to the new purple paint. You have been a great inspiration, and I hope to have the pleasure to meet you someday
Sincerely 🎨 🖌
Hi Mark.
Thank's a LOT for the good honest explanation !
Nice to listen to an honest person.
It just makes you a better, and more credible, artist in my ears.
Best regards
Alf - Denmark.
I used to be more of a purist, but using a projector can save so much time and as a watercolorist any way to reduce the number of unwanted lines is great. It is important to do some study sketches prior to using a projected image, otherwise you can lose track of what you're tracing. I think it is best to use photos taken by yourself, that's half the fun for me.
I'm been looking for a projector. There are many and they have mixed reviews. Any recommendations?
@@jplum7708There’s an app called DaVinci Mural Maker that I’ve found very useful.
it,s all about your personal views,it,s called creativity!!! leave people alone n let them create.You are so ful of yourself that you,ve lost the point.Are you not using the site to manipulate viewers to increase your personal gain? Don't you get it?You,re being ridiculous!!!
@@jplum7708When i paint something like a portrait or some kind of man made structure I always trace. I could never get myself to not feel like I'm a cheater though. But then, sure I would eventually....get it to be fairly right using a grid or some proportional dividers, but why? Even when I trace, I always end up doing so much nudging because something is off. Usually many hours of that. So, the frustration gets to become a real pain. Does that justify the tracing?
*I went to Art School where I specialized in two areas --- Painting & Photography*
Studying photography made me acutely aware of the pitfalls of using a camera when creating a painting. Sadly, some painters are oblivious to optical distortions created by cameras. Likewise - painters have little idea about the effect of direct or semi-direct flash - especially how it 'flattens' light. Faces & figures that would otherwise be 'rounded' by natural shadow & light are instead - painted with all the obvious effects of Flash & Lens distortion. To someone who has trained in both fields - the _slavish_ copying from a photograph - becomes all too obvious.
And oh the pitfalls of distorted proportion.
what about just using a 50mm lens to remove distortions and approximate the natural eye fov?
@@aeonbreak4728 I see that my original reply to your query has been deleted. I am disappointed with TH-cam's ongoing wilful - censorship
@@Pax.Alotinwhatttt really? we are talking about art and lens here, what would motivate them to delete your reply? it's not like I was asking for the side effects of the global jim jones juice...
@@aeonbreak4728 Regrettably - some of my comments on other channels have also been deleted without my doing. This is an ongoing issue. I don't know how anyone in YT could find any discussion about optics - in violation of their 'terms of agreement'. If you have an answer - please share. Thank you for your understanding.
Sharing and honesty are why I always come back to your videos. You are the best teacher on TH-cam.
The main thing is not from where the inspiration comes, it's the skill with which you render the work.
The greatest skill is worthless without inspiration and motivation.
Hi Mark - I was luck enough to have had excellent teachers who didn't hold back anything. Its a standard I've upheld since I started teaching some 20+ years ago. I've also taught my students to use what ever makes the process enjoyable. Because art should be fun and not such a chore that they get disheartened and give up. Nothings cheating as long as there is a creative element to the work. Thank you for your wonderful videos - Paul 😃😃😎😎
This is why you are endeared to us mere mortals, I feel your generosity.
This is an important message for artists. This is a deep truth of art - use whatever it takes to create your art. Thanks - great video!
I am a beginning artist, and have you to thank for helping me understand color mixing. Thank you so much. You are an amazing teacher and artist! All the best.
I love these types of discussions, so often its new or dogmatic artists that have that "cheater" mentality, problem is that if you take it all the way, its cheating if you don't go dig the minerals out of the ground and mix them to make your own oil paints.
I was thinking the exact thing!
Andy Warhol _'cheated'_ all the time :)
He had a factory of print-makers & painters do the work for him.
He'd sign them at the finish. No much different to the Ateliers of old.
@@Pax.Alotin LOL. Who would have thought that Warhol was classically trained?
@@Pax.Alotin the difference say, for example, that in Rubens atelier he was the most skilled one, the master who used students to have a bigger output but he was able to paint everything by itself if he wanted, but he was a teacher too, and that was the way to learn for the students, it was very common in that time, everyone who finished tuition came out as a master painter (unlike warhol). Everyone there had skill and talent for so many painting related things, like mixing pigments, stretching canvas, making brushes, making mediums, varnishing, drawing, painting application and so on, very very very different than what warhol and his crew did, warhol exploited and took advantage of people, that´s well documented.
@@armandogavilan1815 Quite right. Warhol used something akin to the factory worker model for some work & sub-contractors for others. The whole point of my original comment was to point out ( _to those expecting a work to be purely by a single hand_ ) - that this sort of outsourcing - group work - could fall into the class of 'cheating'. In the same way would think a student is cheating - if they use a calculator to solve a maths problem.
Thanks very much, I'm glad to see the Geneva supply store back with some stock of colors in a tube. The chemicals in the other paints can trigger a migraine in my case. Your products are absolutely outstanding!! I'll be watching for the new colors to come out soon. I have learned so much from you and other artist on youtube. Keep the videos coming!
Thank you so much, I am mostly self taught and in my 70's. I prefer oil but at my age I don't get to travel etc so using pictures is a must for me. If I know photographer I will give them credit saying they inspired me if not that that I was inspired by a photo I found. You just opened a whole new world for me.😊
I cant tell you how much I appreciate your transparency!!!! Thank you. We need more of this in the art world.
I so appreciate your transparency. You are my go to guy for all my painting needs as well as who I send my students to for further clarifications on techniques. Thank you so very much for your years of wonderful products and instruction.
Thank you Mark, enjoy all your videos, glad your paints are still available.
I love your honesty in this video. The way you explain everything in your videos, with serenity and clarity, have motivated me to paint again. My problem is that I need to be in the right mood to paint, in order enjoy and be happy with the proccess. I have always been autodidact and reluctant to learn from others. A couple of years ago I felt I was blocked and insecure, and then I found some of your videos and by listening to your speech, full of clarity, the ideas began making sense. For me it is crucial to have a number of basic but powerful ideas to reactivate myself and recover the right inspiring mood. Therefore, every time I feel blocked I come back to your videos to recover my motivation. Many many thanks. I appreciate enormously all your advices. Best regards from Holland and Spain
yes, I find these art vids inspiring, also the ones of several masters works; they get the juices flowing for someone who wants to paint daily. So, get up, get coffee, or your drugs of choice, if you take them, watch a vid and get ready for the day of painting, or for an hour or so, in the studio or outside, if that is your thing. There are now many vids online, good, bad, and ugly ones, (so, play the music of that great western movie). And some are even funny, like the guy or gal who vids themself painting for the very first time, "en plein air" as they always are quick to note. At least they are out there "squeezing some tubes", I guess!! LOL ;D
I really appreciate your honesty and candor. You're a master painter and you've given me much food for thought
You’re a wonderful painter and a wonderful teacher, and it has always been obvious you share techniques and insight selflessly.
Thank you for being honest. The greatest fulfillment in life is being able to share the truth of what we know.
I share the opinion presented here but only about tools . But for AI it's completely different. By using a tool you stay an artist because you created something and the tool helped you. By using AI you become the tool helping AI to "create something".
the most honest video about art craftsmanship today. thank you!
I definitely recommend his course. went to Austin, learn straight from home and his method works
When I see a beautiful image I don’t care how it came to be. Your ai imaginings are absolutely amazing. I love them and I would pay money for them. My brother has been creating with ai and those compositions are lovely and a joy to behold as well. Thank you for this candid message. It puts things in perspective actually.
I’ve always appreciated your sharing your knowledge, and your honest approach
so much respect for you. I started painting watching your channel about three years ago and have drifted into concept art and have become completely obsessed with the processes of digital 3D and 2D media. Naturally the AI debate is insanely heated in that world, and AI generated imagery has a multitude of uses as a concept artist: reference, iteration on an idea, creating texture maps for 3D, generating brushes, source material for photobashing, even collaborating with AI by using the image prompts in midjourney. I've used it to create color palettes in photoshop, taking an image and creating a swatch for color picking. It is amazing to see this video because your draw mix paint series was formative for me as an artist. I still have umber still life paintings I did on small panels: a wine bottle, a pear, and a kabuki mask. It is no surprise to find out you have the wisdom to understand the true nature of a tool and the true nature of cheating. THANK YOU.
Mark, you have given awesome help to me as I move through the painting process. I started late in life but I have constantly found enjoyment and growth, thanks in large part because of your thoughtful guidance.
I think we shouldn’t be too critical about either method. Let purpose do the job and use what’s available. Technology and the world will continue to develop rapidly, artists should rather merge so new ways of doing things can be discovered
Wow! This is great, I had no idea you can even do this with AI. Thank you so much for being so honest. You have inspired me to learn and grow in my paintings, so excited to try this!
I appreciate your candour and honesty. I’ve struggled with this for a long time. As if it’s somehow immoral to use tools to assist in achieving a given outcome. Can you imagine an architect accused of cheating because he used a calculator? Thanks for this. I think you framed it perfectly.
Thank you Mark. Great advice for certain. I'll take it with me as I move forward down this path!
Hey Mark, 💯% agree! I was a 3d animator video etc. when mid journey came out, I picked it up immediately reminded me of my days in 3-D. I do use AI as a reference and you’re absolutely right you can control the image on your own especially using style references and Carole character references. I really love your transparency. There’s such a pullback in the purist art community about this. I used to belong to OPA and I recently dropped my membership because they had rules in there about even using Photoshop and composing which I do all the time, and yes I’ve painted from life but I find it absolutely boring to paint another person staring into space. I love the immediacy that photography gives and I love different ideas that come about using the comp I create in the journey. You are a kickback painter by the way, I’m a huge fan for many years.
Please look up how these algorithms actually work and where they get their sources from. Artists who have been working with both traditional *and* digital media for decades are not furious about MJ and other AI generators because they are fast, or because they produce instant eyecandy - they're mad at these things because they are literally committing IP and identity theft at a scale never seen before. The only reason why it is not illegal is because the law hasn't caught up yet.
For reference, you'll find write ups by the EGAIR (European Guild for AI Regulation), and by the Concept Art Association.
It’s an important conversation. I think an artist should be honest, and have integrity. Thanks for this dialogue. I’m sure there are, and have been many opinions about this subject over the hundreds of years artists have been painting.
Thank you for your honest opinion. I have often wandered if i am cheating in my own mind when i paint and draw. I have come to the conclusion as you have that your the artist and can do whatever you want. Just don't lie about it if asked. As i like to do real life and have taught myself to draw freehand with proper perspective, i find i just want to get to the painting and it saves heaps of time to use aids if needed. You have made me feel really good about myself so thank you.
Mark, I will say that your videos have transformed my artistic ability and my confidence level from, I don’t know if I can do that, to, I can paint anything. And I mean anything. You have opened up a whole new world for me. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge I can never repay you.
There are some good art channels on TH-cam.
But
No one I have found is as concise and succinct as you are.
Your communication skills are outstanding.
The ideas and techniques you discuss are easy to understand & follow and make sense.
Thank you.
I really appreciate this video. I painted a picture using a method similar to Vermeer and have felt funny about it but you've made me feel better!
He wasn’t the only person who used a camera obscura
Love love love Feneva paint. So easy to use.
Plus the brush cleaner is the bomn.
Thank you
Thank you so much for your transparency and honesty, it is very much appreciated !
I appreciate you mark , I had a change of heart about everything
you’re absolutely right
and thank you for everything
I bought a small easel from you, and shortly after that, I began to get all kinds of offers for other kinds of easels, and also began to receive all kinds of channels on how either an artist, or a manufacture, had come up with a perfect solution for using an easel and the method that produces the optimum ability for variations in positions in the process. I got the distinct impression that they think they had come up with something better. You are a genius, presenting us with something so simple that we ourselves could build it with the right tools, and a little ambition. Kudos, Mark! Jealousy is rampant--just sayin'!
And, by the way, I have finished more paintings since I bought your easel,in a short period of time, than ever before. I feel more comfortable painting because it is more approachable and easier to operate for any position I need to use. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your art & honesty
Love your integrity! Thank you for such a thoughtful post 😊
Thank you to you Mark for all the help and advice. Sincerely.
Oh my goodness your work is so beautiful and wonderful ❤thank you for sharing your talent it’s a true master that teaches others 🙏🏻
Really great video Mark. Thank you!
Interesting topic. Not many artists will admit to shortcuts and techniques that are often frowned upon because of the element of snobbery that pervades the art world, particularly from other artists. Painting is difficult and frustrating enough without imposing restrictions upon oneself. I think one should employ whatever shortcut or technique that helps get you through the creative process. Thanks for talking about it.
If I'm not painting because I'm worried about what imaginary critics would say, that's cheating myself out of the wonderful experience of putting paint on canvas. For me, it's about the time I spend making art and the way I feel while doing it. I use all sorts of image sources and technologies, and sometimes just my wandering mind. As long as I'm painting, I'm fine.
When I was in art school in the 1980s, I had a few students criticize my work very harshly because I wasn't doing the hip style that they were doing, I was painting images of things with stories and shadows, they were doing abstract expressionism and dressed differently. So, there is absolutely no way you will escape criticism from someone out there, block those voice out and do what you like.
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This was a great vlog, Mark and such an important topic that I think almost every artist has struggled with. I love some of the artwork your AI queries have suggested but I didn't get the name of the platform you used to obtain them...I will listen again and search the web. I have signed up for your newsletter, so thank you for that.
As for me personally, I have many ideas floating around in my mind and some great personal pictures to help me out with subject matter. However, I'm lost in how to adjust (to my liking) the lights/darks in my composition and want to utilize AI to (hopefully) provide me with realistic ideas so I can add to the photos that already exist. This sounds like such an exciting and limitless concept for any artist who wants to expand beyond their own imagination. If that's the definition of cheating, I'm all for it! Call me a cheater lol!!
I am a rank beginner, and I am so glad I found this. Thank you!
I use A.I. in the exact same way, amazing explanation on how artists can use it.
I follow Mark many years, he is the ONLY one that can help an amateur to learn drawing and painting methodically. In that way people gain confidence to continue and not give up. Most you tube artists show you some-thing about drawing and painting and not the whole picture. He is honest and most of his knowledge is for free. His methods, if you work hard, can teach you to draw and paint very well. Be well Mark and thank you for everything
First thing I learned in visual arts university: cheating in arts is saying something was created differently from how it was created.
The context being that I had a very serious and responsable drawing professor on the first year of university, very different from all the post modern professors that taught stuff like new media and art history. He himself is very contemporary in his work, but also very craft oriented. He taught us to draw from life, two years of very rigid observation drawing, of both still life, ladscape and human figure. He said that, after we graduated his two courses, we could not only draw using absolutely any method we wanted, but that we would (if representing in two dimensions) come across a huge number of methods and devices that would absolutely overhaul our capacity to represent from observation, and that we in fact should use them. The only thing tho, he said it is the only possibility of being fraudulent in making a work of art is saying it is something it isn't.
Thank you so much. This information was so helpful and liberating.
I wonder if those AI pictures would be able to create the colour of the sky here in Sweden, the crisp, saturated late spring or early summer greens that I do not find in the UK for example. The sky has a different colour too. The leaves and grass are more muted in the UK.
That is why I take my own photographs, then change things as I paint by adding memories of how I saw the scene.
I agree with what you have said. I personally think of cheating in art as telling lies or misrepresenting your art is some way.
Everything else is on the table to use.
Thanks for the video. Always was thinks about that !
Love the honesty, especially because I know there are a lot of critics out there.
I've personally been using AI to generate painting references.
My paintings often involve a number of references, and many of my references are further manually altered in photoshop, etc.
On top of that, being a software engineer, I've been fine tuning my own image generation models.
It all becomes part of the effort and process.
My goal is to ENJOY the process and the product. This is the purpose of art for me.
Could not care less about what other people think, especially when most critics likely have not created much art themselves.
"The Photograph" IS a work of art. Ask a photographer! I know a number of successful artists who take photos and paint them, either with Acrylics or Oils. It is simply mixed media, in my humble opinion.
Thanks Mark, you are a great help!
Thank you for your candor. You are very generous with this information.
Much respect ❤😊
This is the best video I’ve ever seen involving A.I.
Thank you for this. I agree with you 100%.
Do you think Sargent used photos? You have said that you love his abstraaction in his style... hyper realism is not the same as Sargent - would you not agree? I had a master oil painter see my paintings - and he could tell which ones were from photos - from the seeing the lights and darks in my paintings... don't you think that painting from photos demands that one frees oneself from the photo?
Like all tools we use it helps get the job done, but not all of it. Photos help with compositions since you can crop them and find a good one, or even many in the same photo, but working outdoors, for landscapes, for example, will help with values and color and atmosphere. All that used together may lead to a good painting, if you are any good that is. And that takes time, ...lots of time!! ;D
Art means creating from ideas. To me, being able to use yet another tool means expanding my abilities of creation.
I agree, someone can be a great painter but struggle with inspiration... and vice versa! I was disgusted when giclee prints came out but saw how there was almost a need for them for artists and buyers.I believe in history master artists would have assistants work on small portions of their work. Not all artist could produce the volume Van Gogh did! I'm no longer a purist, just enjoy creating.
What software do you use for the AI images?
Super relevant topic, you know...it'd watch you evaluate famous works too. maybe just talking about subject matter and composition
One of the things I Love about Art is, it’s subjective, there are no rules! I was told by a great Artist older than all of us, just do the work!!!
You're a good dude. Learned a great deal from you, bought your products etc. Just curious what you think about my desire to never color check and do the arduous work that for me would make me hate painting. Such perfection, which I guess is what fine art is about, is so tedious and a drag to me. Is this level of realism with color checking and the like a requirement of being a fine art painter?
No, what you want to do is the only valid thing to do, no matter what, why, or how you do it. There are many paths to take, as we see from the discussions here. I like looking at the series of works from past masters and folks working today, so many styles all leading to some really great paintings in all genres. That's what makes art so fascinating to those who do it and those who see it and are stunned by the visual effects we mere "naked apes" can produce once we set our minds to take the time and energy to do it. The old hippie saying of "make love not war" applies here too. I say, "make art not war", and there would be no need or time to do the latter thing!! So, in a way, artists are all "peaceniks", as the old saying goes too!! LOL ;D
@@ronschlorff7089 sage advice.. thanks.. keep rockin' in the free world..
The Art is in the process, the painting is the byproduct of the process.
True, it is a "document" of the struggle to do something you think is worth your very limited time on this rock to do, be it a success or failure. It is part of the life you have lived, and therefore a precious thing, even if it stinks. The hope is always it will be better next time, and that is the "process" we go through, for better or worse.
Excellent talk, l have always thought use what ever tool you need to get you to paint your masterpeice 😉
Thanks a lot, Mark. As a new artist, this was a question which plagued me. For example, as an older artist, I have a shorter runway, and cannot spend a year drawing casts, and then a year drawing from life, before I put brush to canvas. I quickly learned, though, that each painting I make exhibits my own ”conclusions” about technical issues, and my personality in the choice and aesthetic representation of subject matter. If one judges paintings on aesthetics and not technical skill, I don’t see why that is not enough - as long as one is honest about one’s process. I’m not afraid of AI; it’s already a fact.
There are artists that spent a decade in an atelier drawing casts etc, only for them to realise that actually, what they really want to paint does not benefit from that one skill at all. Don’t feel bad about being wiser, do whatever you need to do to make the art you want to make now.
Very interesting as always, thanks.
As an artist, I find ai to be obviously amazing for art. It’s like having a new gallery to visit whenever you want. I’m constantly inspired by it and it makes me want to paint MORE.
What exactly do you guys mean by using AI images? What Does this mean concretely? Do you give an AI tool a prompt like “give me a picture of a still life with pears?”
I’m interested, as i often find it hard to find interesting references
@@siebedeswertartist Mark mentioned a website/app here, Midjourney - You have a search bar like Google and you enter any number of prompts to get what you desire, for example, bowl of pears on a sideboard.
I paint from my mind. For me I find that the purest form of art making.
Yeah, I taught myself to draw in the years before I started painting. Then I discovered what I really wanted to do all along was oil painting not drawing. Then I came across your method. So I use a projector to trace the image because I want to spend as little time as possible in the drawing phase. (Takes me about ten minutes to trace it out.) I realized I didn't need to learn how to draw with the prop. dividers, etc; I already know how to draw and could do it free hand if I wanted to.
Interestingly, on a side note, I don't like using the color checker. I'm waaay too clumsy to be fumbling with that and brushes and paper towels to wipe the color checker off, etc. I think I'm going to try laminated photos instead...
Hi ,
Can I ask what AI you prefer to use? Thanks
I appreciate your transparency in teaching/instructing. I use AI for references to help with composition. Isn't there some rule if copy a photograph or image it needs to be altered by a percentage ref. Copyright laws? If it's a different medium photo vs oil paint does that even apply?
I have been using almost every tool (many horizontals and vertical lines, proportional dividers, etc.) except a projector maybe, because it wasn't available, I guess, yet I would've tried it. I say with practice and continuous analytic comparing one does not need with time so many aids. In the beginning it is a must, yet later I felt they were somewhat limiting, as Sargent put it, to always have the plumb line at hand. is more than enough. I make now one horizontal and plumb a vertical, and I feel that my painting skill artistically has improved many folds. One only needs to see, practice and when tired to come back with a fresh eye - this takes years of practice.
great explanation, totally agree. if we paint plein air, that scene in front of us was not 'created' by us neither, we found it - exactly like with AI images. we search and find them and make decisions by it - and even further adjusting and staging it just like a still life set. in this term it can be even more creative process than simply 'copying' nature somewhere.
Which AI do you use to generated these images? Thanks
If I have a gloss laminated picture 210mm by 420mm (A3 landscape) and want to paint it on a canvas,say 2meters wide by 1 meter high. Would Mark's work methods work the same? I'm not ready for that type of challenge yet. But hope to one day. I was hoping that nothing would change as regards Mark's method as I think it's superb. I wondered, if the proportional divider may need to be used slightly differently.
What AI app or program do you use to get your AI sourced images to reference?
Thank you so much for the video and can you please also show us how to generate images please 🙏🙏🙏
sense be spoken.
Are your paints ever going to be able to be bought in the UK?
The thing about AI isn't that it's cheating or that it isn't art, it's the way these models are trained on other people's work. People who weren't asked for consent. That's all I need to know about it, for now at least, until we set some proper boundaries. Sure, you can do whatever your heart desires, but we should still keep some humanistic and ethical values. Integrity is important, not just utilizing any tool available.
They learn a style. You learn to style by looking at the impressionists, for example. That's not cheating.
Exactly, if we had a new fancy art tool that was built by child slaves, we would also have a similar stance. It's not cheating but it's unethical
@@glenngalen9853 They are not people, it's a program. Stop comparing ai companies to real people. There are even generated images with the signatures of the artists they stole from in some examples. It's really messed up. It's taking a copycat to the next late stage capitalistic level
When it comes from your heart, then it's art.
You are very honest in sharing this, and some artists will use AI for ideas, compositions, atmosphere, etc. others might not,. I believe it;s up to the artist. I personally never find inspriration, composition, light or subjects by using AI. I made once images from a prompt and realised this is not for me. I use my own fantasy and both the idea and everything in the drawing is "me". However, of course, we are all influenced by art from great artists and daily life images, but I don't need any AI to help me with being creative.
GREAT seeing your video on a Sunday sunny morning on the Res.. Glad your teaching us about your knowledge! So true.. paintings stand on their own.. NO robot can do that! You deicide the subject! You decide the light! You can protest against evil politicians and paint them as they really are! NO robot can do that! I have presented some of my oil paintings at the Met, 50 years ago and know! Thanks.. I will sign up on your newsletter.
Your website is such an asset to the painting community globally, you should have an international award and a million dollars - SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In life drawing I always use my pencil to gauge distance and ratio.
Thank you for being so honest.
An excellent video! Thanks!!!! People can be so daft: are they not going to look at Caravaggio's, Holbein's, Canaletto's, or Vermeer's, et al, paintings because they painted from projections of the models onto the canvas? An artist uses whatever information is available.