And you love to see it cause he's a dude who was a backup and just showed up and showed out in training camp and earned that starting role. Ingram's pants are gonna get hot once Risner comes back from injury.
@@swaslaukinonome Not from Ingram. The logic behind acknowledging Brandel is understanding that the Vikes waited 4 years while Brandel developed into a viable starter. Ingram was thrown in as a rookie and held his own. He is only two years into that journey and we are seeing Ingram make his mistakes in public, where Brandel largely got to make his mistakes in private. Brandel single handedly caused the big loss to Dallas in 2022 when he came on at 10-3 when Darrisaw was concussed. 4 plays later they were 24-3 down. Ingram has the upside, Risner doesn't. Ingram just deserves the same patience that Brandel got.
Wondering if he's got a mangled finger or two. The two late drops didn't look right. I'm sure they'll be all taped up for next Sunday. Just hope Adds is ready to rumble. Nailor, Adds and JJ are a formidable fleet of hands.
A telling stat re the Vikings would be how do opponent PFF grades change AFTER they play the Vikings? My guess is that their grades go up, especially their QB grades. Also telling is that the Vikings are winning not by brutalizing their opponents, but by out-maneuvering them. Physical yes, but they are not putting helmets on helmets or knees, like some teams do. Minnesota plays clean football, something its fans are proud of.
Half the guys in the top 6 performers from the Vikings were off-season acquisitions. Gotta credit Kwesi and the coaches for making smart moves in the off-season to manage the cap and IMPROVE in spite of losing Kirk Cousins.
@@smnbrgss Kirk Cousins Cap hit $25.1 million Johnathan Greenard $5.7 Andrew Van Ginkel $3.4 Black Cashman $3.1 Aaron Jones $3.5 Sam Darnold $5 Shaq Griffin $4.4 6 added players cap hit $25 million
Could someone please help me understand how you get these metrics? Nico Collins had 4 catches, on 10 targets. Less than half his targets he caught. Stefon Diggs caught 10 out of 12? Darrisaw got hurt. How is Greenard 2nd? He easily performed the best.
@frye3277 They really lost me when they said Kirk Cousins played below average in the Colts game (biggest comeback in NFL history.) Kirk had 2 picks that game, but BOTH were on Reagor, so I don't know how they ding Kirk for that...
@@kevinathans4191 I’ve seen pff grade quarterbacks for underthrown balls when both cover defenders were farther down the field than the receiver. Even though, the ball was placed in the only spot the receiver could catch the ball. A lot of grades pff puts out is subjective and not objective.
No one thought Houston was going to crush the Vikings. If they did they are idiots. A little bit rushed? He was shell shock. He was on the sidelines with his head in his hands.
The statement was the idiot OC of Houston decided to block him solo with a rookie tight end who just learned to play tight end. The game plan was just stupid
Greenard plays differently than Hunter. Hunter fits the 4-3 scheme better which Houston wants to run. Greenard is more of a 3-4 edge/line backer. Pure talent Hunter is better. It's whatever the scheme allows them to do. Hunter was also able to play the 3-4 to a degree just not as good on the drop backs. In a 4-3 he doesn't drop back and just does what he does best.
Vikings fan here. Danielle is great but he had a serious neck injury a few years ago and the loss of flexibility is noticeable. Watch his sack celebration now compared to a few years ago. He should still be productive but as he approaches 30 I think his best days are behind him
Pack, Bears and Lions fans said they had a better receiver core this offseason and the Vikes would be on the bottom behind them… I’m glad Vikings fans know football. Jefferson, Addison, Nailor, Mundt, Hockenson… Williams, St Brown, LaPorta #2 Reed, Watson, Doubs, Musgrave #3 Odunze, Moore, Allen, Kmet #4
Inexperienced coaching from Texans Throughout Vikings QB coach, WR coach , DC and HC are all more experienced especially the DC , Brian Flores worked years Under Bellecheik. Texans will get better with Time
The only bad thing I see with the Vikes right now is that We will lose Brian Flores next season.. This guy is a Head Coach.. we best enjoy him this year and make a run! How good is Justin Jefferson??? is he worth $140 million? Seems like he is developing into an un coverable receiver.. Even against double teams he was getting wide open...
I still think it's 50/50 we lose him. Suing the league might keep him here a little longer. He definitely deserves to be a HC though, and I'm gonna cheer for whoever he coaches when he gets that chance. He's done so much for us.
Im praying we offer him enough to keep him despite HC offers. He may have gotten the taste and decided he didn't care for it as much as building a STUD defense.
@@williamjones4185 I think this team is so asymmetric on both sides of the balls. I don’t think “titles” are really anymore more than pay grades on a KOC team. Everything I’ve seen him do. He listens to his players, to his staff, and he communicates very well with Kwesi. I think if it came to B-Flo being the same pay grade as KOC and given what he already has, the freedom to get what he wants. All these defensive picks, he personally selected them. He finally got a chance to build that side of the ball he wanted. Look at the guys we got that are turning into monsters. Pace, Mettelus, Bynum, Greenars, VG. Frickin Redmond who was practice squad, never played a single NFL down.
When you sue the nfl you put yourself on a list of people organizations won’t mess with. Will it be all of them? idk, but there are for sure many who will never hire him due to the law suits, regardless if that’s fair or not that’s the reality.
I have no idea how a team can rush for 35 yards, with Cam Akers averaging 2.3 yards per carry, and PFF rates him as 1 of the top performers???🤷♂️🤦♂️ It certainly wasn't his blitz pick-ups. Minnesota had like 5 sacks.😅👌
Stroud didn’t strike me as a QB who’s easily rattled but basically from the jump he was making uncharacteristic bad throws and decisions. Notable as well that the Houston run game was completely shut down, CJ was always in 3rd and long situations.
@@kurtwagner350 again coaching.. The offensive game plan was just bad.. hell, the defensive game plan was bad letting Justin Jefferson run free off the line in zone coverage
I suspect that that early interception got in his head, and the crazy Vikings defense threw him off his groove for the whole rest of the game. All those penalties too, like three false starts in a row, I don't think that was solely a lack of discipline on their part. All the noise and mental warfare the Vikings defense was waging on them were factors in that. Some say that they just played bad, but I would argue that the Vikings were at least partially responsible for making them play bad. Sometimes one team just rattles another with things they weren't prepared for, and they never manage to recover.
You guys need to get some shock mounts on the mics. Every time you touch the table, a boom comes through. Watch with some _nice_ headphones. It’s quite annoying. Or you could get some mic stands that sit on the floor. Great content. But the audio… omg
Looking forward to seeing this defense away from home against Greenbay and more importantly against Roger's and the Jets. The Vikes get past those two games looking competitive will tell me they are for real.
I got the Vikes score right! I said 34-23 and man was I wrong. The Texan fans went quiet and incognito, after saying I don’t know football and Vikes will get stomped. It’s easy, no run game against a great secondary defense… Collins Dell and Diggs locked up all game.
I will never fully understand PPF. Justin Jefferson will tell you himself that wasn't close to his standards. He dropped two passes he usually grabs. He had a decent first half.
Slowick horrible play calling amd tunsil being lazy are the main issues Slowick isnt as good as spme think, fact it wasnt him it was CJ Despite slowick that did it last season And Tunsil since he got paid Has been Lazy
@@joethomas6277 with all the podcasts I really hope more ex players talk about the games. These guys that have never played a down of football or watched a game are annoying like weeds.
Lmao they do it every week every season with the Vikings I’ve noticed. Dude with the bald head and the lisp (his name is Sam I believe) is notorious for it. They could beat the Chiefs 49-10 and they’d talk about how the Chiefs played poorly instead of Minnesota playing well. Week 1 it was “the giants suck”, then it was “SF had a bad game and didn’t have CMC”, now this. Pathetic. Arrogant dorks that watch football through an algorithm
This segment brought to you by people who looked at the numbers and not the game. Stroud actually played really well, he wasn't thrown by the coverages, it was all his big plays kept getting called back by O-line penalties and put way behind the sticks. One int was the o-line got pushed in and the DT got his hands up and deflected the pass. The other Stroud thought the receiver was going to sit in the zone and they kept running.
Blake Brandel is the most important addition to the Vikings offense. It has been ages since the Vikings have had a seriously good guard.
This is the truth, how many times did we as Vikings fans watch the interior OLINE get destroyed then Kirk gets Strip Sacked.
And you love to see it cause he's a dude who was a backup and just showed up and showed out in training camp and earned that starting role. Ingram's pants are gonna get hot once Risner comes back from injury.
Best comment. Watching Darnold operate with time on a lot of his passes is truly the difference.
I'm rooting for Risner to heal up, feels like he could provide another upgrade on the inside. 🤞
@@swaslaukinonome Not from Ingram. The logic behind acknowledging Brandel is understanding that the Vikes waited 4 years while Brandel developed into a viable starter. Ingram was thrown in as a rookie and held his own. He is only two years into that journey and we are seeing Ingram make his mistakes in public, where Brandel largely got to make his mistakes in private. Brandel single handedly caused the big loss to Dallas in 2022 when he came on at 10-3 when Darrisaw was concussed. 4 plays later they were 24-3 down.
Ingram has the upside, Risner doesn't. Ingram just deserves the same patience that Brandel got.
Jefferson "maybe" the rest receiver in football. No maybe about it. He is the best.
Wondering if he's got a mangled finger or two. The two late drops didn't look right. I'm sure they'll be all taped up for next Sunday. Just hope Adds is ready to rumble. Nailor, Adds and JJ are a formidable fleet of hands.
@@jimbo92107 Yup i hadn't thought about the fingers. He probably jammed them on the first drop
@@jimbo92107shhhhhh
Harrison Smith is the best Saftey in the recent eras
He is in the Ronnie Lott, Paul Krause, Ed Reed and Polomalu tier.
LOL
@@ZachDucks His stats are very close to Polomalu. Smith has more INTs and sacks
@@w8ting4fri two very different eras.
@@ZachDucks tell me you haven't seen Hitman tape without telling me you haven't seen Hitman tape😂
@@hlyhungrofhadar7862 I’ve watched him. He’s not anything compared to the greats.
A telling stat re the Vikings would be how do opponent PFF grades change AFTER they play the Vikings? My guess is that their grades go up, especially their QB grades. Also telling is that the Vikings are winning not by brutalizing their opponents, but by out-maneuvering them. Physical yes, but they are not putting helmets on helmets or knees, like some teams do. Minnesota plays clean football, something its fans are proud of.
Helmets on knees like the Lions, for example lol
Be right back Laremy Tunsil just false started!
Tunsil needs a game check from the Vikings for that performance.
I just tuned in and heard them talking about it, and then he did it like 2 plays later
Half the guys in the top 6 performers from the Vikings were off-season acquisitions.
Gotta credit Kwesi and the coaches for making smart moves in the off-season to manage the cap and IMPROVE in spite of losing Kirk Cousins.
Could make the argument that the money they saved by letting Kirko walk it allowed them to invest in all of these players
@@kaseywahl it’s not hard to improve offensively when your Quarterback is no longer the 3 and Out machine that is Kirk Cousins
@@smnbrgss Kirk Cousins Cap hit $25.1 million
Johnathan Greenard $5.7
Andrew Van Ginkel $3.4
Black Cashman $3.1
Aaron Jones $3.5
Sam Darnold $5
Shaq Griffin $4.4
6 added players cap hit $25 million
I can’t wait for AJ to do the Lambeau Leap in purple & gold next week
It's the Bank Vault now. 😁
How is nico collins rated higher than justin lol so stupid
Justin had two easy drops. very uncharacteristic of him
@@KushDaddy217one was not so easy but the first definitely was
@@christiankellogg429 he jammed his finger. i was shocked until i heard that. he will be fine next week
Could someone please help me understand how you get these metrics? Nico Collins had 4 catches, on 10 targets. Less than half his targets he caught. Stefon Diggs caught 10 out of 12? Darrisaw got hurt. How is Greenard 2nd? He easily performed the best.
pff has never made any sense
Their metrics aren’t based solely on the stat line.
@frye3277 They really lost me when they said Kirk Cousins played below average in the Colts game (biggest comeback in NFL history.) Kirk had 2 picks that game, but BOTH were on Reagor, so I don't know how they ding Kirk for that...
@@kevinathans4191 I’ve seen pff grade quarterbacks for underthrown balls when both cover defenders were farther down the field than the receiver. Even though, the ball was placed in the only spot the receiver could catch the ball. A lot of grades pff puts out is subjective and not objective.
When did darrisaw get hurt? I see. O Neil go out for a series but pretty sure he came back
We vikings got ripped off on the interception reversal...some prick in new York decided ...bs..1)
control .2) football move = Interception. Skol
Insanely low grades for the Vikings after they dismantled a very good Houston team. Kind of sad to see what PFF has become.
Because these grades are made up and are basically random.
No one thought Houston was going to crush the Vikings. If they did they are idiots. A little bit rushed? He was shell shock. He was on the sidelines with his head in his hands.
Greenard 3 Hunter 0 Greenard could have been resigned at a fraction of what they paid Hunter. Tunsil is a dog. Get a left tackle.
they were calling Hunter a revenge game.. they forgot about Greenard.. he made a big statement
The statement was the idiot OC of Houston decided to block him solo with a rookie tight end who just learned to play tight end. The game plan was just stupid
Greenard plays differently than Hunter. Hunter fits the 4-3 scheme better which Houston wants to run. Greenard is more of a 3-4 edge/line backer. Pure talent Hunter is better. It's whatever the scheme allows them to do. Hunter was also able to play the 3-4 to a degree just not as good on the drop backs. In a 4-3 he doesn't drop back and just does what he does best.
Vikings fan here. Danielle is great but he had a serious neck injury a few years ago and the loss of flexibility is noticeable. Watch his sack celebration now compared to a few years ago. He should still be productive but as he approaches 30 I think his best days are behind him
Greenard with 3 sacks and only a 73.6?
Pack, Bears and Lions fans said they had a better receiver core this offseason and the Vikes would be on the bottom behind them… I’m glad Vikings fans know football.
Jefferson, Addison, Nailor, Mundt, Hockenson…
Williams, St Brown, LaPorta #2
Reed, Watson, Doubs, Musgrave #3
Odunze, Moore, Allen, Kmet #4
Houston barely beat Caleb and Richardson.. Houston more hype than substance
Oline and OC problem the roster and HC is not the problem keep up causal
Inexperienced coaching from Texans Throughout
Vikings QB coach, WR coach , DC and HC are all more experienced especially the DC , Brian Flores worked years Under Bellecheik.
Texans will get better with Time
@@IceCubE4425 Texans are better a week 3 fluke don’t mean nun
@mac4118 hard to call getting thrashed a fluke, but sure.
@@mac4118 thats what they said when MN beat the 49ers. Just give credit where its do.
The only bad thing I see with the Vikes right now is that We will lose Brian Flores next season.. This guy is a Head Coach.. we best enjoy him this year and make a run! How good is Justin Jefferson??? is he worth $140 million? Seems like he is developing into an un coverable receiver.. Even against double teams he was getting wide open...
I still think it's 50/50 we lose him. Suing the league might keep him here a little longer.
He definitely deserves to be a HC though, and I'm gonna cheer for whoever he coaches when he gets that chance. He's done so much for us.
Im praying we offer him enough to keep him despite HC offers. He may have gotten the taste and decided he didn't care for it as much as building a STUD defense.
I see the Wilfs saying, "How much? What is it going to take to keep you"?
@@williamjones4185 I think this team is so asymmetric on both sides of the balls. I don’t think “titles” are really anymore more than pay grades on a KOC team. Everything I’ve seen him do. He listens to his players, to his staff, and he communicates very well with Kwesi. I think if it came to B-Flo being the same pay grade as KOC and given what he already has, the freedom to get what he wants. All these defensive picks, he personally selected them. He finally got a chance to build that side of the ball he wanted. Look at the guys we got that are turning into monsters. Pace, Mettelus, Bynum, Greenars, VG. Frickin Redmond who was practice squad, never played a single NFL down.
When you sue the nfl you put yourself on a list of people organizations won’t mess with. Will it be all of them? idk, but there are for sure many who will never hire him due to the law suits, regardless if that’s fair or not that’s the reality.
I have no idea how a team can rush for 35 yards, with Cam Akers averaging 2.3 yards per carry, and PFF rates him as 1 of the top performers???🤷♂️🤦♂️ It certainly wasn't his blitz pick-ups. Minnesota had like 5 sacks.😅👌
Stroud didn’t strike me as a QB who’s easily rattled but basically from the jump he was making uncharacteristic bad throws and decisions. Notable as well that the Houston run game was completely shut down, CJ was always in 3rd and long situations.
He also has a terrible play caller too
That offense is based on run game and play action. Missing first and second string RB and the run game was non existent. Viking keyed on that
@@rodrickcross seemingly true. That being said with CJ and that receiver group, it shouldn’t have been that hard or taken that long to pivot.
@@kurtwagner350 again coaching.. The offensive game plan was just bad.. hell, the defensive game plan was bad letting Justin Jefferson run free off the line in zone coverage
I suspect that that early interception got in his head, and the crazy Vikings defense threw him off his groove for the whole rest of the game. All those penalties too, like three false starts in a row, I don't think that was solely a lack of discipline on their part. All the noise and mental warfare the Vikings defense was waging on them were factors in that. Some say that they just played bad, but I would argue that the Vikings were at least partially responsible for making them play bad. Sometimes one team just rattles another with things they weren't prepared for, and they never manage to recover.
You’re not giving Brian Flores enough credit and Houston didn’t either
You guys need to get some shock mounts on the mics. Every time you touch the table, a boom comes through. Watch with some _nice_ headphones. It’s quite annoying. Or you could get some mic stands that sit on the floor. Great content. But the audio… omg
Nico Collins rated higher than Justin Jefferson. That's rigged.
Looking forward to seeing this defense away from home against Greenbay and more importantly against Roger's and the Jets. The Vikes get past those two games looking competitive will tell me they are for real.
He said the defense is not that talented ? I beg the differ Sir . No respect . Tread lightly Texas . SKOL !
You also said it would be disrespectful to stingley if they double covered maybe they had that aspect and didn’t double cover
One reason was is they were allowing Jets to have a free release from the line of scrimmage. Not smart.
I definitely called the blowout lol in my preview video I said 31 to 13. Not too far off
I got the Vikes score right! I said 34-23 and man was I wrong.
The Texan fans went quiet and incognito, after saying I don’t know football and Vikes will get stomped.
It’s easy, no run game against a great secondary defense… Collins Dell and Diggs locked up all game.
@@wilhoroshak6253 dude the same thing happened to me hahah skol
Look what we did with that half of team last year they just put it all together
How did Collins get such a high grade?
I’m more shocked by Akers
I will never fully understand PPF. Justin Jefferson will tell you himself that wasn't close to his standards. He dropped two passes he usually grabs. He had a decent first half.
How did Akers have such a high grade? What?
Tunsil is mostly responsible for Texans loss. The timing on his penalties crushed us.
Our rg is a sore spot on our line. It will cost us in a big moment in the playoffs if we make it that far.
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Slowick horrible play calling amd tunsil being lazy are the main issues
Slowick isnt as good as spme think, fact it wasnt him it was CJ Despite slowick that did it last season
And Tunsil since he got paid Has been Lazy
The pass rush and crowd noise got to him
Well shucks…. I reckon that all we can say is “SKOL” 🤔👍👍👁❤️🏈🤩
Do these guys even watch the games 😏
No. They clearly don’t.
@@joethomas6277 with all the podcasts I really hope more ex players talk about the games. These guys that have never played a down of football or watched a game are annoying like weeds.
I guess the more experienced quarterbacks will tear the Flores defense apart. We’ll see
Every comment was from the frame of Texans fell short. Okay
Stop slamming on the desk! It’s all I can hear. Fix your mics noise gate at least!
Please tell him to stop hitting the table when talks lol
THE COPE, HOW COULD YOU GIVE NIKO A HIGHER GRADE THAN SAM DARNOLD?
NIKO HAD 4 CATCHES WITH 10 TARGETS, I SWEAR YOU LIVE ON LIES.
FAKE STATS LMAO
Lmao they do it every week every season with the Vikings I’ve noticed. Dude with the bald head and the lisp (his name is Sam I believe) is notorious for it.
They could beat the Chiefs 49-10 and they’d talk about how the Chiefs played poorly instead of Minnesota playing well. Week 1 it was “the giants suck”, then it was “SF had a bad game and didn’t have CMC”, now this. Pathetic.
Arrogant dorks that watch football through an algorithm
No mention of Laremy Tunsil’s horrible game where he had like 6 penalties? He was the primary reason for the poor offensive play.
So… y’all just make shit up now huh?
You're all a joke
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This segment brought to you by people who looked at the numbers and not the game. Stroud actually played really well, he wasn't thrown by the coverages, it was all his big plays kept getting called back by O-line penalties and put way behind the sticks. One int was the o-line got pushed in and the DT got his hands up and deflected the pass. The other Stroud thought the receiver was going to sit in the zone and they kept running.
That's how INTs happen, so he threw INTs, no excuses. Texans outcoached and outclassed period.
Hello name one big play negated by penalty for Houston
PFF just dropped the Ghost Busters line for poor Darnold! Packers plus 20
In your dreams bub
Packers have looked alright against ass teams. Vikes are going to put the hit stick on them next weekend.
@@w8ting4fri I hope the Vikings bring it coz you know the Brat Pack are about it
vikings ain't winning next week
I’m gonna come back to this comment because it will age like milk
Bill is that you?
They are
@@Waysubshe’s mad his team isn’t 3-0 His team is freaking 2-1 LET HIM talk cuz it’s not gonna age well
Dang....setting urself up for failure