@@playerx2006 well the question wasn’t who the best player the question was who has the most productive season Lamar won mvp because he had the most productive season Last year and that was SAS point about mahomes actually having a better squad this year for him to have a more productive season. We all know Pat is the best
@@jaysonsmith7264 mahomes will win but honestly I don't care what mahomes does in the regular season just like I don't care what lamar does. It's about the playoffs for those two. C.j. Needs to do it again with a division winner schedule. Lamar needs to do it with a division winner schedule. Reason I'm not sold on lamar is he had a 4th place schedule last year because the team didn't make the playoffs the year before. I'm so ready for this season. And I want to see dak go to the browns or seahawks.
How y’all always try to disrespect Lamar Jackson and take him out of top 5 and then try to compare him to Mahommes who is the undisputed #1 it’s like yall trying set him up.
@@trueson5351, you going off last season dude, and yet one quarterback is winning playoff games and the other isn’t. Those are facts you don’t know about.
@@trueson5351mahomes won the superbowl Lamar had a better regular season but what do that matter mahomes has 2 mvps same as Lamar mahomes has 3 superbowls Lamar 0 come on now
@@trueson5351 Mahomes has three super bowls to his name, he’s 15-4 in the playoffs… Lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs and hasn’t even been to the Super Bowl. Those are facts
Wow. I didn’t realize their total yards and touchdowns were so similar last season. It felt all year like Mahomes was struggling bad, and Lamar was playing at a historic level winning a second MVP. Definitely interesting
Man I hate this type of question.. . Why do y'all want people to pick one or the other. Beat one man down just to bring another one up. I marvel at both of these dudes. They are both incredibly unique. I get it for the sake of the show, but come on man.
Bc Stephanie A and yes that’s spelled correctly. Thinks with her emotions on the moment not any type of thought behind it just what she thinks at the time. I have seen her literally dispute himself over certain topics time and time again and go back to confirm it😂😂😂😂😂idk how she is the face of this show bc she never is accurate on her own beliefs it’s just whatever whenever
do you want the guy with 0 superbowls, who lost to the Chiefs last year, and has the same weapons coming back ? Or do you want the guy with 3 superbowls, who beat the Ravens last year, and has a much improved group of weapons this year? Its a pretty obvious answer.
It ain't that deep bruh. Patty is great and so is Lamar!! Brady was our goat however, Peyton,Drew, Aaron, Ben, Matt staff etc. Are respected from the 00s Era. It's OK to like more than 1! Don't make it about rings bc guys like Marino are always in somebody's top 5 QB based on talent. Even if Lamar never wins the big game, he'd be the Answer A.I. of the NFL. So great that those with rings acknowledge his greatness.
Derrick Henry is going to make that read option so deadly. Imagine being the DE and having to choose between tackling Derrick Henry or containing Lamar.
@@Ultrabmw319 How you overtaking somebody who won 3 super bowls already before age 30. He got y’all thinking super bowls are easy to win. Mahomes already got a full career of achievements it’s ridiculous.
@@soda8736 Listen I love Lamar’s game but Lamar’s MVP season is comparable to Mahomes worst season. Let’s think about that and Mahomes still won the Super Bowl.
Lamar jackson individual talent he like Michael Jordan he be 3 time mvp got hurt 1 yr he leading mvp.. Lamar have 477 pass attempts won mvp Justin Herbert 699 pass attempts didnt win Mvp Lamar threw 699 pass attempts he have 5200 pass yards understand Ravens got Henry Lamar throw more pass td in redzone Lamar going Win Mvp Henry set up play action Ravens had good rb Lamar lead nfl pass td week 1 Lamar throw 5td
@@mike-vc1qm why everyone keep adding in this or that, we are looking at the point of the video! They had pat numbers listed but Lamar’s was just as good these are facts. We are not talking about mvps or Super Bowls
@@trueson5351 Mahomes had his worst season as Sharpe pointed out. It will only get better this year. Mahomes wins his third MVP and third straight SB. And he takes down Lamar on the way. You heard it here first.
And anytime Stephanie A is wrong or gets called out it’s the classic “what I mean was” and goes into something he never said to try and defend himself. He and skip. Perfect duo.
It was a pretty weak year for QBs, no QB had that great of a season and a lot of QBs were hurt. I would have given the MVP to Tyreek Hill or CMC, personally, but because the Ravens were the #1 seed it made the most sense to give it to Lamar.
You can’t call it a detriment when they’ve won 2 Super Bowls in a row without Tyreek. Obviously if effects the style of play Mahomes wants but they’ve still adjusted and won.
Mahomes: 15-3 playoff record which includes 4-2 in the AFC Championship Game. 3-1 in the Super Bowl. Lamar: 2-5 in the playoffs. 0-1 in the AFC Championship game. It’s a no brainer. Mahomes wins in the regular season but really takes it to the next level in the playoffs. Lamar is a great regular season QB but can’t make it work in the playoffs.
I love how ppl think Adding Henry is going to Minimize his Productivity. If anything.. now Teams can't come in a put all three Focus on Lamar. When you play Mahomes you gotta worry about Kelce too.. Now not only does Lamar have another Playmaker.. he more than likely has another HOFer! Can't wait to see him Elevate even more!
With this discussion, you just feel like you want to walk into the OCEAN while your BRAIN CELLS drain out of your Ears. What are we doing here?? this is like asking Megan Fox or Rosie O'Donnell.
I’d be interested to see Mahomes’ yards if all the drops had been caught. Not even catch and runs, just compare his yards with that of other QBs assuming their receivers catch every ball they should reasonably catch from the spot where they would catch it. MVS alone probably took off over 200 yards on about 3 catches.
Love how Shannon forgets the Vaunted 1992 - 96 Cowboys . That Team was loaded On both sides of the Ball with Talent in that Time Period . They could have easily won 5 SBs in a Row if it weren't for the 49ers in 1994 and the Packers in 1996 getting in their Way . The Cowboys were One Win away From SB 29 and easily 3 Peating Vs the 94 Chargers . 🔥💥🌟💫✨⚡❤️🔥🤯🧐😶🌫️🤨🤔🫣🤦💯🚨👍🫢💍🐎
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we got to stop doing this to lamar. we all know it’s mahomes, why do this to lamar?
Statistically Lamar had a more productive regular season last year but I think it’ll be different
Yeah regular season....@@dontbelikecamtv
I know right they just trying to bring Lamar down everyone knows with them rings Pat is number 1
@@dontbelikecamtv Bro, Mahomes didn't even have good WRs and took them to the big game. Lamar could NEVER do that, so Mahomes is way better.
@@playerx2006 well the question wasn’t who the best player the question was who has the most productive season Lamar won mvp because he had the most productive season Last year and that was SAS point about mahomes actually having a better squad this year for him to have a more productive season. We all know Pat is the best
“the gap between 1 and 2 is greater than 2 and 5”- shannon sharpe
I am a lamar Jackson fan. But its Patrick mahomes. The standard is the standard and patrick mahomes is the standard.
do u realize they play each other first game of the nfl season
@@jaysonsmith7264 mahomes will win but honestly I don't care what mahomes does in the regular season just like I don't care what lamar does. It's about the playoffs for those two. C.j. Needs to do it again with a division winner schedule. Lamar needs to do it with a division winner schedule. Reason I'm not sold on lamar is he had a 4th place schedule last year because the team didn't make the playoffs the year before. I'm so ready for this season. And I want to see dak go to the browns or seahawks.
@@Ultrabmw319Amen
How y’all always try to disrespect Lamar Jackson and take him out of top 5 and then try to compare him to Mahommes who is the undisputed #1 it’s like yall trying set him up.
Every single day!
I think its the metrics of the raitings.
Give me Lamar all day! Patty 4572 total yards, 27 TDs, AND 14 Interception. Lamar 4499 tot, 29 TDs, n 7 Interception. THOSE ARE FACTS
@@trueson5351, you going off last season dude, and yet one quarterback is winning playoff games and the other isn’t. Those are facts you don’t know about.
@@trueson5351mahomes won the superbowl Lamar had a better regular season but what do that matter mahomes has 2 mvps same as Lamar mahomes has 3 superbowls Lamar 0 come on now
It’s not even a discussion…salute to both though
Give me Lamar all day! Patty 4572 total yards, 27 TDs, AND 14 Interception. Lamar 4499 tot, 29 TDs, n 7 Interception. THOSE ARE FACTS
Mahomes. This is such disrespect. He’s won 3 titles including the last 2 with subpar receivers
@@trueson5351Lamar Jackson is a beast but there’s just no debating whose had more success
@@trueson5351 Mahomes has three super bowls to his name, he’s 15-4 in the playoffs… Lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs and hasn’t even been to the Super Bowl. Those are facts
@@Hal-yc9jd*15-3 for Mahomes' postseason record
Both are stupendous QBs in their own right but Mahomes owns those rings.
Give me Lamar all day! Patty 4572 total yards, 27 TDs, AND 14 Interception. Lamar 4499 tot, 29 TDs, n 7 Interception. THOSE ARE FACTS
@@trueson5351L troll
@@trueson5351Natty Mahomes 3 rings 3 bowl mvps 2 mvps 28 years old ! Lamar 2 mvps 27 years old chiefs vs ravens the chiefs own them
@@trueson5351, stop repeating that! That’s a troll reponse.
@@trueson5351🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇💍💍💍 ALL DAY
15 is on a completely different level there is no debate to have between them stop it please 😂
Lamar more skilled than mahomes
@@Cruckavens777 Lamar isn't in Mahomes' stratosphere.
@@Cruckavens777he only better at running. His arm talent is backup qb worthy
Lamar better than mahomes 💯💯
@@jamessanders6788Lamar most definitely better than mahomes 💯💯💯
Wow. I didn’t realize their total yards and touchdowns were so similar last season. It felt all year like Mahomes was struggling bad, and Lamar was playing at a historic level winning a second MVP. Definitely interesting
That's what I am saying
Man I hate this type of question.. . Why do y'all want people to pick one or the other. Beat one man down just to bring another one up. I marvel at both of these dudes. They are both incredibly unique. I get it for the sake of the show, but come on man.
You just said you get it so why you crying
@iamhorcruxer Nobody is "crying". Just pointing out how they constantly have this topic and it's played out.
Bc Stephanie A and yes that’s spelled correctly. Thinks with her emotions on the moment not any type of thought behind it just what she thinks at the time. I have seen her literally dispute himself over certain topics time and time again and go back to confirm it😂😂😂😂😂idk how she is the face of this show bc she never is accurate on her own beliefs it’s just whatever whenever
Like I can like bacon today and tomorrow hate it. Makes no sense but for her it’s the sameeee thing. Makes no sense
This is the point of a “debate” show lol
We're still comparing Mahomes to anybody? I thought ESPN gave that up.
Why is this even a question? 😂
😂😂😂
Lamar better than mahomes 💯💯
@@JuwwnDunbar cocaine is a helluva drug D.A.R.E TO SAY NOOOOOO BRUH 🤣🤣🤣
How is this even a thing? 😂😂 2x NFL MVP, 3x Super Bowl champ, 3x Super Bowl mvp or 2x MVP? Hmmmmmm
Yeah it's not even a Question
Shannon is killing the game!! TWO - multi million youtube channels, HOF, and killing it on ESPN as an analyst!
I haven't been keeping up with football lately but Henry is going to the ravens is crazy
I enjoy watching the two best players in the NFL.
do you want the guy with 0 superbowls, who lost to the Chiefs last year, and has the same weapons coming back ? Or do you want the guy with 3 superbowls, who beat the Ravens last year, and has a much improved group of weapons this year? Its a pretty obvious answer.
Don't ever put Lamar in the same sentence as Mahomes
you just did, smh...
It ain't that deep bruh. Patty is great and so is Lamar!! Brady was our goat however, Peyton,Drew, Aaron, Ben, Matt staff etc. Are respected from the 00s Era. It's OK to like more than 1! Don't make it about rings bc guys like Marino are always in somebody's top 5 QB based on talent. Even if Lamar never wins the big game, he'd be the Answer A.I. of the NFL. So great that those with rings acknowledge his greatness.
@@saikoa2129 Lamar is good at eating 🍉 and nothing else
@@ChristopherPorter-n7rWatch your mouth woodeater
@@ChristopherPorter-n7r I'm sorry but what this have to do with this debate ?
the question on youtube is misleading but the answer is still the same 😂
Derrick Henry is going to make that read option so deadly. Imagine being the DE and having to choose between tackling Derrick Henry or containing Lamar.
Mahomes is HIM! End of discussion.
So happy football is back!!!
Mahomes shouldn’t be in any these discussions is disrespectful to him. I get the topic is this season but let’s stop doing this.
Agreed. & you know what is crazy. Tha man is playing in the toughest conference in sports today and consistently beats dem all🫵🏿
From a statical standpoint, Lamar shouldn't be in this convo
@@soda8736i think c.j. Is going to over take him. Lamar isn't even better then jaylen hurts
@@Ultrabmw319 How you overtaking somebody who won 3 super bowls already before age 30. He got y’all thinking super bowls are easy to win. Mahomes already got a full career of achievements it’s ridiculous.
@@soda8736 Listen I love Lamar’s game but Lamar’s MVP season is comparable to Mahomes worst season. Let’s think about that and Mahomes still won the Super Bowl.
This is like comparing Harden and LeBron lol.
It’s not even close.
not really, more like giannis to lebron
@kidthekiddo8996 they both have rings.
Lamar jackson individual talent he like Michael Jordan he be 3 time mvp got hurt 1 yr he leading mvp.. Lamar have 477 pass attempts won mvp Justin Herbert 699 pass attempts didnt win Mvp Lamar threw 699 pass attempts he have 5200 pass yards understand Ravens got Henry Lamar throw more pass td in redzone Lamar going Win Mvp Henry set up play action Ravens had good rb Lamar lead nfl pass td week 1 Lamar throw 5td
Give me Lamar all day! Patty 4572 total yards, 27 TDs, AND 14 Interception. Lamar 4499 tot, 29 TDs, n 7 Interception. THOSE ARE FACTS
Harden comp is so lazy more like Jokic before he won the chip is a better comp
As a Ravens fan it’s Mahomes. My only issue is when people try to say anyone else is objectively better than a two time reigning league MVP atp.
Give me Lamar all day! Patty 4572 total yards, 27 TDs, AND 14 Interception. Lamar 4499 tot, 29 TDs, n 7 Interception. THOSE ARE FACTS
@@trueson5351give me mahomes 3 rings two mvos an 3 Super Bowl mvps keep you’re regular season stats 😂
Give me mahomes. Because we're going to the superbowl. Lamar is Ryan tannahill in the playoffs no shade it's just the truth.
@@mike-vc1qm why everyone keep adding in this or that, we are looking at the point of the video! They had pat numbers listed but Lamar’s was just as good these are facts. We are not talking about mvps or Super Bowls
@@trueson5351 Mahomes had his worst season as Sharpe pointed out. It will only get better this year. Mahomes wins his third MVP and third straight SB. And he takes down Lamar on the way. You heard it here first.
They just bored rn ain't no sane person taking Lamar over Mahomes
Ones a choke & one isn’t 😂
Let’s save the debate one wins when it matters one chokes .
If the o line don’t block Henry won’t matter
When you are running out of topics:
And anytime Stephanie A is wrong or gets called out it’s the classic “what I mean was” and goes into something he never said to try and defend himself. He and skip. Perfect duo.
#MahomesGOAT!
I love how even Espn cuts off molly lmao
Oh brother here yall go
Give me the back to back Super Bowl MVP
Both is the best
We aren't doing comparisons already?
nate wiggins finna put worthy in a straight jacket😂
Ok
Third MVP incoming for Action Jackson! 👑💯
Third superbowl in a row incoming for pm15 😂😂
LMAO SUPER L
Ok
SB > Mvp
mvps mean nothing without a 💍😂🤦🏾
Is that a serious question? LOL
ITs like comparing Brady and Rivers
Lamar isn’t clutch. Mahomes is.
Lamar better than mahomes 💯💯💯💯
Stop with the comparison just let em play sit back and enjoy the show these men put on
Derrick Henry is like OBJ last year . It's age . That changes the person from new to old . Old Henry candy bar
How did Lamar get MVP with those stats
It was a pretty weak year for QBs, no QB had that great of a season and a lot of QBs were hurt. I would have given the MVP to Tyreek Hill or CMC, personally, but because the Ravens were the #1 seed it made the most sense to give it to Lamar.
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakLamar is the goat 🐐🐐🐐
Lamar is the goat 🐐🐐🐐
I like Lamar, but those stats are not MVP worthy.. was last yr football that bad
Molly looks so good
Bring running the ball back
You can’t call it a detriment when they’ve won 2 Super Bowls in a row without Tyreek. Obviously if effects the style of play Mahomes wants but they’ve still adjusted and won.
3 time SB winner vs 2-4 in the playoffs. How can this even be a question. Mahomes is a QB who can run. Jackson is a running back who can throw.
That's not a conversation! One wins trophies, the other Chokes.
KC has one of if not the fastest Receiving core!
My dad is the superbowl referee this year and already said he won’t let Lamar win
It's pretty clear cut. One has three SB rings and the other has one more career playoff victory than Tim Tebow. Case closed.
Gimme the dude with three Superbowls under 30
Thanks Buffalo for giving KC Worthy
Mahomes: 15-3 playoff record which includes 4-2 in the AFC Championship Game. 3-1 in the Super Bowl.
Lamar: 2-5 in the playoffs. 0-1 in the AFC Championship game.
It’s a no brainer. Mahomes wins in the regular season but really takes it to the next level in the playoffs. Lamar is a great regular season QB but can’t make it work in the playoffs.
Mahomes got the rings in this timeline
All we care about is what Lamar cares about. So the real question is who will have the more productive post season?
Not gonna lie as a KC fan I fear the power option duo of Henry and jackson
I love how ppl think Adding Henry is going to Minimize his Productivity. If anything.. now Teams can't come in a put all three Focus on Lamar. When you play Mahomes you gotta worry about Kelce too.. Now not only does Lamar have another Playmaker.. he more than likely has another HOFer! Can't wait to see him Elevate even more!
Why are you not supposed to (frantasy) draft QBs?
Productive season not whos Better
Why is this even a question it’s not even close
Why is this even a Topic? It's not even close. Shouldn't even be discussed! SMFH
With this discussion, you just feel like you want to walk into the OCEAN while your BRAIN CELLS drain out of your Ears. What are we doing here?? this is like asking Megan Fox or Rosie O'Donnell.
Wednesday's debate : Who's better, Aidan O' Connell or Dan Marino.
Are they doing this with every qb? What spurred this?
Mahomes by a million
Both. Celebrate. Don’t hate.
This is basically like debating whose better MJ or Karl Malone in real time in the 90s. Just making topic for the sake of a topic
Why are they mentioning Lamar and Mahomes in the same sentence? Lamar is a choke artist.
Thank u lmao. Lamar should be compared to dak prescott
Anyone saying Lamar is a fool
Let’s compare the QB that’s been to 4 super bowls in the last 5 years vs Lamar that’s never sniffed a Super Bowl
If ima Lamar I play videos like this all day everyday
They're just bored at ESPN today I see. Stupid question
Action Jackson's going to be the star this year
I’d be interested to see Mahomes’ yards if all the drops had been caught. Not even catch and runs, just compare his yards with that of other QBs assuming their receivers catch every ball they should reasonably catch from the spot where they would catch it. MVS alone probably took off over 200 yards on about 3 catches.
Mahomes…next question
#BoNix 🔥🔥🔥
#Broncos Lets Go!!!
MVP voters aren’t giving Lamar another one until he gets more playoff wins than baker mayfield
Correct take, Lamar’s ineligible until he at least makes the Super Bowl
I like both but how is this a debate?
Yah jus be tryna bring my boy LJack down wit these kinda questions
If Mahomes get a 3peat, it'll be the most productive season in history.
How tf is this still a conversation???
Lamar is awesome, Mahomes just has another sense going on. KC did well with that pic
4 superbowls in 6 years enough said
Lamar better than mahomes 💯💯💯
These are the same people that were saying that Mahomes had passed Brady in the GOAT conversation LOL these people not even consistent
That question is ludicrous!! Jackson choked like a new born !
If you need to ask the question...
Why is this even a question?
Ill take the guy with nearly 80% winrate _in the playoffs_ and has a game less affected by aging.
I'll take that dude over anyone else actually.
Why do people even bother having this discussion, no matter the question the answer is Mahomes.
Not close
They shouldn't be in the same category
One has 3 Superbowls , 3 FMVP , the other one Has 2 playoffs wins
😂😂😂 Not even close
Lamar is the second best qb of this generation. Pat is #1, although Lamar is my favorite
Hot take: Lamar will pass better this season because he has NO pressure to run. Expect MAJOR passing yards from LJ
Lol that's what they say every year. The guy suck at throwing the dam football with no football IQ.
Nah
hahah.. no pressure? dawg Henry will get hurt again.. and guess who will turn into the Running back ? thats right buddy! LJ
LMAOO
These dudes have been mentioning mecole hardman in these segments for years lol. For some odd reason
Joe Montana or Kurt Warner
Lool why is this a segment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wouldve said Patrick will get a 3rd MVP before Lamar gets a SB win.
Love how Shannon forgets the Vaunted 1992 - 96 Cowboys . That Team was loaded On both sides of the Ball with Talent in that Time Period . They could have easily won 5 SBs in a Row if it weren't for the 49ers in 1994 and the Packers in 1996 getting in their Way . The Cowboys were One Win away From SB 29 and easily 3 Peating Vs the 94 Chargers . 🔥💥🌟💫✨⚡❤️🔥🤯🧐😶🌫️🤨🤔🫣🤦💯🚨👍🫢💍🐎
The Panthers eliminated The Cowboys in the 96 playoffs in the divisional round