Frost being relatable to me in particular for 5 minutes & 36 seconds (once upon a witchlight comp.)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- this was originally going to be called "frost being autism coded for 5 minutes" but i thought that might be too strong
the program i used to download the vods obliterated the resolution hence why this is in like 144p
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all clips belong to legends of avantris ( / @legendsofavantris ) and are from their once upon a witchlight campaign ( • Once Upon a Witchlight )
thumbnail edited from • D&D Animated: Adult Ma... with animation by shoocharu
EDIT: i changed the thumbnail, because i didn't realize flor's boundaries about reposting included using their art for things like this. i also did my best to cut the image out of the video itself, but its not perfect and the only way to completely take it out would be to delete and reupload the video. respect for boundaries is something i try to emphasize especially online; i apologize for my mistake and will be more careful in the future.
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since i saw a similar compilation for a different fandom do the same and people found it helpful, i thought i’d try to do a quick breakdown of the things that i believe could be used as evidence that frost is neurodivergent (note this is based on my personal experience as a diagnosed autistic person)
[EDIT 2: since i’ve seen some confusion start to pop up in places where these kinda hcs are discussed i’d just like to clarify that im talking about frost the character, _not_ derek the player]
0:36, 0:55, 1:48, 2:33 - missed social cues
1:06, 1:15, (probably) 4:10 - heightened sensory perception/sensitivity
1:21, 1:39, 1:48, 2:33 - literal thinking/misunderstanding certain euphemisms or nuances
1:15, 3:38 - fixation on minute details
3:16 can be seen as infodumping
3:04 - dexterity/fine motor skill issues (this one is admittedly a stretch and is only in the video in the first place bc they canonized it after nikkie said it was in character)
2:49 - not knowing how to react to praise/compliments (probably more a me thing tbh)
[general observation] - his general speech patterns and largely monotonous voice are known as a flat effect, and is common among autistic people. i don’t have it to the same degree but i do struggle to control my tone of voice when not making a conscientious, focused effort to do so (im told this is why it’s so hard for people to tell when im joking)
[not in video] - he picks up on the pattern of important plot points being grouped in threes (the three antagonists, prismeer being split into three realms, the carnival having three rules, etc) almost immediately. i didn’t include this in the video both because there were just too many clips of it and because i wasn’t sure if it was an actual character choice or just metagaming, but it’s worth noting
[not in video] - someone pointed out in the comments of i think ep3? that most of frost’s fey curses are reasonably similar to common sensory disturbances (random weird tastes, skin crawling/feeling like vines are growing out of you), obv it’s not the same but if we take a more poetic/metaphorical interpretation of fey curses…
[not in video] - this is almost definitely me overthinking things but while talking about ep9 with someone i started thinking about how mr light’s office is described with the same kinda vibes as most of the sensory rooms i’ve been in (at least the ones that weren’t child-oriented), again not that significant but worth noting
you can rip my autistic frost headcanon from my cold dead hands thank you
I don't see him being autistic at all just because he's logical, I act like that sometimes and I'm not autistic, but that's okay!
@@alejotassile6441 and that’s perfectly fine! im not trying to tell anyone what to think, just sharing my own ideas :)
It never fully registered with me before watching this vid, but Frosty and Gricko really are just the ultimate "Autism and ADHD duo" aren't they?
@@bennybyeboo976 they really are
And Bitsy from Uprooted is AuDHD (I have no evidence I just love her)
@@DeathnoteBB yeah i can work that into my belief system
@DeathnoteBB she has some wild impulsive behavior
Ive got both and I seriously need a friend like that
i never thought about frost being autistic but that makes so much sense omg. love this
my diagnostic papers are actually just my character sheet with stupid high int yet practically nonexistent wis
@@nickythehickey LMAO realest shit ever
@@pacifistcowboyI SWEAR TO GOD YOU ARE ON EVERY VIDEO I WATCH 😭
@@coyotix LMAOOO HELLO AGAIN
When he started making the OF COURSE IM WEARING MY SHOES bit i interpreted it as a sensory thing before i remembered foot fiends exist
I'm so glad somebody else picked up on Frosts autism coding
@@TabbyDapperSir a character can only have so many relatable moments before i start pulling out the dsm
The orange autistic cat. Yep checks out haha
Love to see it
are tigers in the domain of orange cats? 🤔
@@nickythehickeythey are felines so yeah
@frownyclowny6955 I think felines refers to the members of the Felinae subfamily, and the larger order of Felidaeare all called felids.
Tigers are part of the Pantherinae subfamily and thus arn't felines. I think over time because the vast majority of living cat species are under Felinae people started to use feline as a synonym for cat when it was originally was used to describe a certain kind of cat.
(Sorry to rant I'm autistic, so I couldn't resist the urge to infodump about cats under a frost video) :P
Anyone else reminded of another certain autistic tabaxi? Mayhaps one who adventured across Cyrodill?
@@christinedge7627 i actually don’t know what you’re referencing
God I love the crossword puzzle clip, it fits Frosty so well
@@thelad7525 i too can do a crossword puzzle in five minutes but also regularly forget the most simple common words
i love frost so dearly and oh my god the cupcake clip, pumpkin seed clip and crossword clip are literally me. i’ve never felt more represented in my life lmaoo
@@lukewarmlani you’re in good company here 🫡
He's called Frosty because he's the milkshake that brings all the autistics to the yard apparently (& rightfully so)
@@PickledThyme1 you’ve casted hideous laughter on me
@@nickythehickey pickledthyme casts: hideous laughter! Its super effective!
Frosty may be everyone's least favorite character, but he is my favorite
That's a real shame, I had the impression that most people liked him a lot, I did anyway, always missed him the most when he was gone during the episodes. I just love his deadpan tone and dry humor, he's such a silly tiger man, then again I'm also a huge furry so I can't help but get drawn in.
@@lawncrow it was a very old poll on the Avantris channel that let people vote for their favorite characters, a year ago or more. Frost got the least votes, and when Gricko gained the powers to adress the GM and the audience directly as a fey curse, he remarked that Frost was always everyone's least favorite character.
I'm pretty sure that has changed since then, but the joke remains.
@@reiphas his plush has the second most sales under chuckles, i think it’s very safe to say that’s changed
Glad to see that's not the case anymore, funny cat man deserves it
Frosty is my favorite
okay yeah when he did the cupcake thing i SCREAMED because thats exactly what i do, i think someone didnt know what he was miming and he had to explain it which is sjhdmsbs
you’re talking about 4:10 right? because that’s actually nikkie’s own description based on a really high rolled con save (which is wild without the context of the campaign so i’d say just watch that session, it’s ep3)
@@nickythehickey out of Context it is very funny
The green child bit and "I... love you???" put me into hysterics every time. He's way too relatable.
Frost is one of my favorite characters out of all campaigns they've done. Derek is honestly one of the best players to watch/listen to
honestly its hard for me to pick a favorite bc they all work so well together
Frosty was always everyone's least favorite character... but he's my best lad
@@cassidy8307 “thats a hurtful thing to say out loud…”
@@nickythehickey It's a joke that happens way later
@@risingrose7927 i know, i was continuing the quote /nm
@@nickythehickey 🤦 and yet another instance of me taking things literally
@@risingrose7927 lmao you’re good, i probably wouldn’t have realized either
God, every time I see clips of their WBTW game, I just think about how my DM ran it for us, and we got through the carnival in *one session.* I'm in awe how all those clips were in 9 episodes, and yet still they were in the carnival.
They just go off on nonsense for like 45 minutes per episode, but it’s hilarious. One of them even got a clown haunting
better yet, this all technically came from 4 sessions (episodes 1, 2, 3, and 9)
i had trouble downloading episodes 4 and 5, and frost isn’t in episodes 6-8
hey i recognise that pfp
Oh this is funny. Hes silly
i really really need you to properly get into witchlight you don’t understand the chokehold these guys have me in
2:33 you wanna know what's hilarious
i already knew the slang definition of "tart"
i have watched that exact clip multiple times
i only understood what the dude was saying 'til now, watching this video
my ass just _might_ be autistic lmao
@@rainyclockuno3135 i had to look up the definition to get it, literally this joke is the first and only time i heard it in that context
@@nickythehickey completely fair lmao
oh my god i was hoping somebody would do a frost compilation ,, he is accidentally my favorite .
edit: OH MY GOD YOU INCLUDED THE EXTREMELY AWKWARD "i... love... you?" SCENE I AM LOSING MYS HIT LMFAO
second edit: i suddenly feel like i need to make a "Gricko being relatable to me in particular for _ minutes and _ seconds" video in response to this video
@@coitophobia hey you’re the person i mentioned at the start that made me wanna make this! hope my midnight impulsively was satisfactory
@@nickythehickey it was extremely satisfactory i giggle-snorted a multitude of times
omg i never caught onto that... frost being my favourite makes so much sense now
I never knew this is what I needed, until I found it. Thank you so much random person I found in the comments, my soul now belongs to you.
@@fran-tl9nf idk if my impulse decision is worth a soul but you’re welcome
@@nickythehickey IT IS WORTH A SOUL- especially since not only I started watching it and I'm happy more people agree that frost is (even if slightly) autistic coded, but also because it's HILARIOUS that I'm seeing it the same day that I got told there's a chance I may be autistic, so ye, take my soul
As a person who has autism, i can relate to some of these a lot, so its interesting that one of the funniest people in that group is autistic.
@@GbunnieZ i think the relatability definitely factors into the humor
@@nickythehickey agreed 👍
My favorite of the Carnival of Lecroux, thank you!
Also I swear it took me ages to realize his name is a play on Frosted Flakes:
Morning (As in breakfast cereal) Frost (Frosted Flakes) (He is literally a Tiger).
I'm still convinced Frost in Witchlight is like this because he's a result of all the leftover braincells from playing Bitsy
I never truly thought Frost as autistic, being an autistic myself, but now I can't unsee it
If you're only on episode 9, then you're in for a lot of chaos.
Gnawing on this, i love frost. I headcanon both him and kremy as autistic (kremy mostly bc unicorns + constantly fixing things like appearance + comfort character and im autistic)
@@Arachnick wait i hadn’t thought about kremy please explain
@@nickythehickey rant time! Ok so first bit is the “i didnt want to be who i was at this age” which is really common in undiagnosed autistic teens, the feeling that something is wrong with you because you dont function the same way as everyone else. He’s a lot more pick than the rest when it comes to his appearance in a way thats similar to autistic rituals, especially with his fake moustache, he applies it so much that the first thing someone tries when hes unconscious from drinking is to say that his moustache isn’t on, and one of the first things he does when meeting Torbek is try clean him up, which just rings of sensory issues. Ik it was a fey curse, but the loudly talking about unicorns at every point reminds me so much of when i have a new hyperfixation. He also lies a LOT, which could be perceived as similar to masking because its an everyday thing that he rarely expresses himself, even lying when its not beneficial or necessary at all 👍 also we need more horrible people autistic characters
@@Arachnick this is actually a massive brain take omg how did i miss all of this (actually i took the “not wanting to be who he was” bit in more of an internalized classism direction since in the same monologue he mentions envying the wealthier people he saw around agwe)
in fact if you wanna stretch the fey pacts/curses which i do take a lot of liberties with, i personally believe the unicorn obsession became true (if it wasn’t true already) once it overlapped with the “can’t knowingly lie” pact
edit: i also happened to look up prestigitagtion while working on a character of my own, and given all the different things it can do it’s interesting that he seems to _only_ use it to clean stuff
@@nickythehickey thats also a really good take on it, honestly it could be a mix of both, and I’m taking a bit about the pacts overlaying making it true thats mine now/j
@@Arachnick no need to steal it when i genuinely think that’s just what happened
I 👏 need 👏 more 👏
@@zbossgamer3400 hey i still got like 40 episodes before im caught up 😉
@@nickythehickeyOho? Will you make more compilations? bc I would love that /gen
@@marshcarcass im not sure, we’ll have to see if the motivation for it strikes
I need this to be a fandom
@@GlennTrollbun it is a fandom! and a pretty chill one at that, super respectful from what i’ve seen
I can't believe he was the least popular in the favourite poll
I FKIN LOVE FROST
My handsome autistic gay tiger man. I adore him
This is so real
If you think about it, being a sorcerer is just magic autism actually
@@stinkzsys4995 i always saw wizards as the autism magic but yk maybe you’re right
I heard that monotone candor in ep1 and thought "he just like me fr" and he only got more like me every episode
Oh yeah Frost is so autism coded. I'm so glad other people see it too. I don't get how people don't like him bc he's just such a cutie. Mr. Light knew Frost was wild beyond the polite exterior and he's so real for being into him.
My personal measurement for “is this character autistic?” is whether they remind me of my sister or not. My sister BTW swims deep in the autism waters. Anyway Frost IMMEDIATELY hit the mark.
@@Q.Q.Kachoo this but my measurement is myself
@@nickythehickey LOL, yep, that works too
Frosty is best boi
Thank you!!!! I wasn’t sure if it was just me projecting HEAVILY onto him lol
SO THAT'SSSS WHY I LIKE FROST SO MUCH LMAOOOO (i'm autistic myself lol)
I love it when neurodivergence is portrayed in such a hilariously accurate but not truly debilitating or condescending way. Frost is not built "wrong", he is just very often awkward or out of his element. He's like a motorcycle on a mountain bike path. Awkward and messy, but not defective. When put in his element, he thrives like no other.
@@StealthMarmot_ what i really love is that yes a lot of these moments are jokes, but it never feels like they’re making fun of him
edit: also the fact that apparently all of the autism coding was unintentional? i can’t get a lot of info myself since i can’t afford patreon rn but people who have gotten the chance to ask about it say this. who would’ve thought the key to making a realistically neurodivergent character would be to do it by accident
Frost is so autism coded I love him
... You know, cupcakes sound really good right about now.
This is my reminder to continue watching Once Upon A Witchlight (i haven't finished it all yet but it's been a while since i listened to it)
this compilation has only made me want to watch avantris More but unfortunately my own audhd makes it hard for me to watch long videos like theirs 😔 i’m gonna keep trying though
@@harmless_spider have you tried doing other things while listening to it in the background? thats what i did (until i got so invested i couldn’t focus on anything else while listening 😅)
@@nickythehickey i have actually but i’ve got Other Things that are long and boring that i’m listening to so it’s not been at the top of my list. it is now though lol
I can’t watch long videos either unless I’m knitting at the same time. X^) Gotta keep my hands moving or I get nervous
I was expecting to see the part where he realizes everyone is imagining things, but his legs are still fused toghether
As someone who has never seen this campaign, Frost is also now my favorite.
I have these nice shoes on for hygienic reasons for a reason,
*K R E M Y.*
Y’know I knew there was a reason I was drawn to Frost in the shorts (aside from big kitty)
YES
I'm a diagnosised Autist and never realise that the "eating a cupcake" part wasn't a common thing for everyone o.o
And I always thought Frosty was just being a dry humor character, but now, it totaly feels like he is indeed autistic ! XD
Wait-it’s not?
I love you? 3:00
🎉 So happy to have this great work!
I love when Derek does crazy math, like I can’t do any math but does anyone ever fact check him?
@@BEEDRILL303 dammit now i have to check
@@nickythehickey I guess someone should lol
@@BEEDRILL303 im not even completely sure how to do that math im terrible at probabilities
I'm both gricko and frost in the crossword clip.
Also Frost is me frfr. (Got that autistic swag)
@@Gvtz_XD "autistic swag" was something i didn't know could exist but I love it.
im stealing it it's mine now you cant take it from me
@@fran-tl9nf don't worry. Everyone has swag, you get to name whatever you want.
@@Gvtz_XD YEAAAA!!!!!!!!
So someone’s probably asked for this but can you do a compilation of either chuckles, Torbek, or that fire genasi I can’t remember the name of?
@@Multi_fandom_man honestly i wasn’t really planning on making this a series or anything, but if you can be any more specific about what you want i can definitely try :)
@@nickythehickey it can either be “Chuckles being a force of chaos” or “Torbek being a menace” or you can choose idk
This is not something I wanted but it should have been wayyy sooner thank you for this
a mega edit (is that what they're called?) of Gideon open-mouth ear-piercing laughing for like 6 hours straight
Goated pfp
Last bite is a thing for a reason.
@@fernandotrevinocastro1018 i don’t know what this means /gen
Oh my god I'm so glad people also see it. I didn't want to say anything but I totally relate to Frost in the way that I see my autistic traits in him 😭
I love frosty, theyrrrrrrrr great!
The cat-man is autism coded?? As an autism-(sometimes)man who is cat coded, this is certainly a shock! (I love Frosty sm tho)
The cake eating thing, I just did the SAME THING while eating icecream, I ate the 2 flavours as excactly I could
Oh so THATS why i thought he was relatable
nooooooo oh my god i feel so called out by the food portion. orange kitties is the same
Ohhh him being autistic makes so much sense that’s so cool!! I only watched their shorts so I never picked up on these details
Frost is my fav I don't care what the statistics say
Derek is my favourite character. I mean Frost...
OH MY GOD I LIVE FOR FROST AND GIDEON AND GRICKO AND CHUCKLES THEY ARE MY LIFE
Thank you!
Also, I find us oddly similar in more ways than one, haha
Memento mori, friend
memento mori🖤🤍
Why are you all talking about death
@frownyclowny6955 Look up Unus Annus and if you see the black and white spirals, you'll know you're looking in the right place
Memento mori y'all
🖤🤍
can you PLEASE do a Gideon one? I've always related with his gag of being accidentally too forceful and having to hide the regret via humor
fun fact, gideon is the one i probably relate to the least out of the main cast. a comp would probably focus on something other than relatable moments, or if you could say what in particular to look for i’ll see what i can do
@@nickythehickey Honestly you could just make a comp of Gideon and his conversations with Chuckles and that'd be funny asf too lol
This video is incredibly reddit.... then again Frost is incredibly reddit as well, so it works.
@@hummel6364 i can’t tell if this is an insult or not
@@nickythehickey I can't either.
He's just like me fr
That's to this video, I finally got what was so funny @2:33.
@@melanietanner5165 happy to be of service
If I had to rank best to least favorite Avantris characters, it would be:
1. Chuckles
2. Gricko
3. Gideon
4. Kremy
5. Frost
6. Skadoosh
7. Bitsy
8. Peggy
9. Booker
10. Pugsley
11. Alexander Hamiltoad
Ngl I thought this was a she ra compilation. I might need more sleep
@@slider0083 my knowledge of and involvement in she ra starts and ends with me using catra as a voice claim for an oc
@@nickythehickey essentially there’s a character named “Frosta” so I misread the first word and that was enough haha
Yo dawg got any more pixels?
@@ccf_1004 no the program i downloaded the vods with took them
Hello fellow autistic friend, I am also autistic 😁
Where are his fucking legs?????
@@user-ro6me3ne1p other than the theme being relatable moments i also tried to stick to less recognized bits out of fear of seeming repetitive. my vague undiagnosed chronic pain/joint issues have been worse recently though so if i do a part 2 there will definitely be some fucking legs
That urban dictionary needs to look up words in the dictionary to spell correctly. Lol
This compilation has just made me fall in love with Frost. Thank you, user (pushes up glasses) nickythehickey
seriously though, this compilation is great xD
Love the video! And the pfp
memento mori
Why is the quality so bad?
@@AmoGus626 gotta be honest im not completely sure, somewhere between downloading the vods and exporting the edited video the resolution got decimated
Pause forget everything are you an Unus