Every episode just keeps on hitting on relatable experiences! For handling cutting people out, I think growing up having to try extra hard to be included, and now going the extra mile to be inclusive, unless something drastic has happened, it always feels hard to just cut people out.. Then with the red flags, honestly just being yourself and not lying can get you so far! And if it doesn't work out while being true to yourself, then maybe that relationship wouldn't have worked out anyways, win-win. Reminds me of what Eric mentioned in a past pod, about how you can really tell how a person is based on how they act when no one is really around.
Just binged some Jomo pods on my last flight, really loving the introspective and thinking out loud style Chloe and Eric have here. Looking forward to all the different topics y’all are looking to tackle in the future!
Much needed pod - I've been feeling guilty for cutting out a good friend of mine (of course I could have handled it better) but this conversation made me feel validated!
lemme write this down!! so to clarify - you're asking: (1) how do I best position myself in today's job market? (2) how do you not let your job define your whole identity? is this right?
Super interested in the Patreon! I never really follow Patreons but this will be the first because I love the idea of you guys providing your insights to different life things. Love the wisdom you guys drop every week :)
Tuesdays are the busiest days of the week for me at work, with up to 12 meetings some of these Tuesdays, but JOMO gives me the motivation to move through the day so that I can take that hour at the end of the day to myself, listening to the pod, sometimes laughing or grinning to myself when either of you says something so so relatable, or nod when I learn something new, while eating dinner or closing my eyes to rest. Especially, for this week, I got eye Conjunctivitis yesterday and it’s a very weird experience for me, as just another dopamine-run Gen Z individual, to simply do nothing, because my eyes need to rest. I got a mini panic attack just thinking about the prospect of doing nothing for two days (possibly for the first time in more than 8 years) and just resting- I mean; what’s that like? Lol. I hate this mindset that I am cycled by. But I knew that it was JOMO Day, and that definitely cheered me up, and gave me something to think about and look forward to. This episode ABSOLUTELY packed punch!!! Loved it, learned so much, and got to understand a lot more about the societal etiquettes surrounding social events like these. Hopefully, someday, I will be important enough to feel deserving to go into events like these.
Regarding some of the ideas for future pod episodes, see if any of these might sound interesting: - How to decenter my mind from toxic productivity? - How to rest? Battling lingering burnout (Avoid stress-laxing) I feel like ya’ll talk about this a lot on all the episodes, but I would still love to hear more about these as standalone themes for the episodes! Thanks so much, Chloe and Eric, for these wonderful episodes!! ❤
I'd love the Patreon! A viewer advice column would be very fun and insightful - personally really enjoy when creators like Dr K do interviews with listeners
@@augystudio it definitely depends on the task whether it requires a lot of brain power or not 😂 if I'm doing more repetitive work that day then it's fine
wooo sorry we didn't get to share more about it. getting today's episode out was a lil sweaty. thank you for your support! can't wait to build it out for you!!
I used to hate Tuesdays bcs it’s my highest meeting of the week day but now always look forward to it bcs of jomo pod!! Also excited about the patrion.. here’s my question, is it ok to ask for a raise within 6 months of starting a new job? Tldr is i quit my stressful high paying big tech job to work in a more chill corp with a pay cut.. now my WLB is so good, problems i face at work is also very fun and engaging but pay is a little low so im kinda fomo :’) that’s why i tune in to jomo !!
Maybe this podcast is always supposed to be business centered but hearing the way you guys talk about friends and friendship sounds business minded too 😭
yes - that's correct! jomo is meant to be a business podcast, from a more 360 view of what happens in between things and behind-the-scenes while pursing a career in tech and the creative world. in terms of the stories shared in this episode, these were all in the context of business and networking events - not really friend events. hope that helps set the framing for you!
34:40 I have to ask how good are the securities at these events lol. I think I have a good idea on what's going on. It seems these events are pretty intimate and you guys seem to really value honestly and transparency and it seem the other person has the ultra hustler mindset of keep trying and if it fails keep trying again. Personally like you mentioned earlier 18:54 someone if everyone in the group thinks it's unacceptable they should be called out and kicked out. I think in their perspective they think they're just hustling and because no one wants to say anything then they just think their ultra hustler mindset works all the time. 38:02, I slightly disagree. I think it just that people hate confrontations and even a small callout requires extremely high levels of practice saying that something isn't acceptable while also not trying to hurt them(depending on the circumstance) 38:28 what would you say is secure attachment style of dealing with this situation, because I dont think it's bad to just avoid them since they drained your energy. well I guess they arent that important if you can just say bye, in reality it can also be handled like how you handled the networking friend and Chloe situation but you didnt express your struggles and they didnt get a chance to do anything 38:50 actually think that's really bad, they're just draining your energy, and imo theyre just also just hate conformation while also being extreme people pleasers and insecure to stand up for themselves, it's also bad because they tend to just vent and drain everyone energy too, 39:33 I need more information but like I said it might be that they are extreme people pleasers and insecure, and bad boys can hook onto people who are nice but have low self esteem.
for your situation about the guy that found what out that 20 years ago the friend was a creeper, I think it depends on 1. why the girl mentioned it in the first place(maybe it just slipped and the girl doesnt need action to be taken). The guy should talk to the girl about his feelings, you cant fix something that was never mentioned, and try to alleviate some of the guilt. As for the guys feelings for the other guy, if it's just a networking friend, then I think you should still try to network, if its a friends, then it is different however it was also 20 years ago, if it's something of value to you and you wont stand that behavior you should do what Eric does and fully get angry and say it's not okay to be creeper, not okay to spontaneously join pickle ball game etc.. 24:16 as mentioned before since it's networking friends it should networking friends, yeah if you know they dislike each other, a very good approach is to be transparent at mentioning events they'll be at and consciously try to separate them. I think a good method for this mediation(which is good anyway) but it helps you actively focus the intention on yourself instead of focusing on they're bad people. 26:16 Eric said it best, but also to elaborate, it does feel slightly weird to drop everything for a friend because they dont get along. I think Chloe also understands why they will hangout but also knows that Eric is on her side.
Hey Eric if you ever want to learn how to defend yourself without needing to get punched in the face try Jiu Jitsu! I've been training for 3 years and if you want to learn there are a lot of gyms in your area. Also, I'm not someone who subscribes to Patreons or buys courses online. Can I ask you guys when do you think it's worth to buy a course or support a creator on Patreon and who you guys currently support?
I’m sorry my friend 😳😳 i hope there were some good learnings here!! I’ve fumbled a lot before but have a much stronger grasp of how I want to show up in social settings! - chlo
ayeeee love to see a jomie getting their reps in!! 💪 we also got tagged in people's IG reels where they have a daily routine of working out and listening to the pod. 🥹
My wife and I sudo shadow-banned a guy for being way too flirty with the girls in the group. We didn't want to confront him about it either as his intentions were ill, and we have no tolerance of that bs We called these kinds of people Vultures. Vultures seek opportunities to sneak into situations that are favorable to them, for example if we all went to a party, he'd seek the most tipsy couple and try to get the girl to go dance with him. It was a disgusting behavior and we never tolerated it.
I have a best friend of 8 years, she ignores our group of friends (us 4) when we tell her her what her bf is doing is not appropriate(he cuddles with other girls but it’s fine cuz she’s there when it happens and their other friend group has different skinship boundaries... It’s happened 2x now where she ignores us, and it hurts, literally made our other friend cry in private. What to do? We’re young in our 20s, will she grow out of it ? Or stay with him because she doesn’t think anyone will ever love her? BUT she’s a gorgeous smart woman. But we’re grown adults, I’m ready to just break contact cuz she do be a follower & copies everything me and the other girls do lol 😭 but it’s fine cuz we’re besties but she acts so weird? Why can’t she talk to us about her feelings and be an adult? When she marries him and is miserable atleast she can never say we didn’t try, when he’s still cuddling w other woman, if he ain’t acting like ur husband now, then why would it change if yall get married ?!?! .
Not to seem chronically dehydrated but does Eric know how nice his arms are? Respectfully...I forget sometimes about the musclesss n veins 😅. Anyways, perfect timing, I love this pod so much🥰
Damn Eric finally got his dogs called out, rip the weekly stylish sock showoff. 🧦🐧 I personally don't mind the profanity, so if it makes y'all's lives easier my small vote says go for it. Angy Chloe and Eric. ✊️😤 Also would be interested in the Patreon and have Eric and Chloe impart wisdom onto my life! Do any of y'all have any techniques or tips to hype yourself up or boost self-esteem when you're feeling down? 🚀 My therapist and I have been discussing the topic of peeling away past and unhelpful labels recently, which continue to stick despite now being in much better environments.
I think censoring the profanity makes it funnier and safe for work 😂 These creepy guys better not mess with you two and your friends, or they'll be called out here and become internet famous.
very small poll - are you ok if we just don’t censor the profanity moving forward? It’s a pain to edit🫠 let us know!!
yasss we wanna see badass chloe with no filter
I thought you both did it for monetization, but if not let it rip!
I don't mind the profanity, but wouldn't it hurt the monetization?
Go for it, don’t need the filter
Don’t mind as long as TH-cam doesn’t either 😂
I love your guy's vulnerability in this pod. I appreciate and looking forward to this pod each week! lets go ERIC and CHLOE!
aw thank you, jim!! thanks for listening on day 1 of upload!
Every episode just keeps on hitting on relatable experiences! For handling cutting people out, I think growing up having to try extra hard to be included, and now going the extra mile to be inclusive, unless something drastic has happened, it always feels hard to just cut people out.. Then with the red flags, honestly just being yourself and not lying can get you so far! And if it doesn't work out while being true to yourself, then maybe that relationship wouldn't have worked out anyways, win-win. Reminds me of what Eric mentioned in a past pod, about how you can really tell how a person is based on how they act when no one is really around.
Just binged some Jomo pods on my last flight, really loving the introspective and thinking out loud style Chloe and Eric have here. Looking forward to all the different topics y’all are looking to tackle in the future!
Much needed pod - I've been feeling guilty for cutting out a good friend of mine (of course I could have handled it better) but this conversation made me feel validated!
not me listening to jomo when im in my corporate job
🤣🤣🤣 don't worry ~ we won't tell anyone
Can you guys make a podcast on any advice on the current job market/having a job not define you (or even a segment on this)?Would love to hear it!!
lemme write this down!!
so to clarify - you're asking:
(1) how do I best position myself in today's job market?
(2) how do you not let your job define your whole identity?
is this right?
@@jomopod yes ma’am! 💕
This was one of my favorite episodes tbh. Idk why it has lower views but I hope you keep making content like this
Aww thank you!! We weren’t quite sure how to title it haha, so I’m guessing it’s confusing to know what to expect from this episode!
I LAUGHED SO HARD “do i get the npc horse” 6:18 PLEASEEEE
🤣🤣🤣 I MEAN ERIC WOULD GET THE NPC HORSE
- chlo
Super interested in the Patreon! I never really follow Patreons but this will be the first because I love the idea of you guys providing your insights to different life things. Love the wisdom you guys drop every week :)
Tuesdays are the busiest days of the week for me at work, with up to 12 meetings some of these Tuesdays, but JOMO gives me the motivation to move through the day so that I can take that hour at the end of the day to myself, listening to the pod, sometimes laughing or grinning to myself when either of you says something so so relatable, or nod when I learn something new, while eating dinner or closing my eyes to rest.
Especially, for this week, I got eye Conjunctivitis yesterday and it’s a very weird experience for me, as just another dopamine-run Gen Z individual, to simply do nothing, because my eyes need to rest. I got a mini panic attack just thinking about the prospect of doing nothing for two days (possibly for the first time in more than 8 years) and just resting- I mean; what’s that like? Lol. I hate this mindset that I am cycled by.
But I knew that it was JOMO Day, and that definitely cheered me up, and gave me something to think about and look forward to.
This episode ABSOLUTELY packed punch!!! Loved it, learned so much, and got to understand a lot more about the societal etiquettes surrounding social events like these. Hopefully, someday, I will be important enough to feel deserving to go into events like these.
Regarding some of the ideas for future pod episodes, see if any of these might sound interesting:
- How to decenter my mind from toxic productivity?
- How to rest? Battling lingering burnout (Avoid stress-laxing)
I feel like ya’ll talk about this a lot on all the episodes, but I would still love to hear more about these as standalone themes for the episodes!
Thanks so much, Chloe and Eric, for these wonderful episodes!! ❤
I'd love the Patreon! A viewer advice column would be very fun and insightful - personally really enjoy when creators like Dr K do interviews with listeners
the patreon has just been soft launched on today's episode!! we put it in the description and pinned comment ~
chloe! you’re always gorgeous, but you are literally glowing in this episode
🥹🥹🥹 u make me blush ~~
- chlo
Great podcast! Thank you for being so open in sharing here :)
Whooo excited to listen to this while working 😚
hahah we won't tell anyone 🤫
how can you focus on work while listening to a podcast haha, i know people can do that but it doesn't work for me :D
@@augystudio it definitely depends on the task whether it requires a lot of brain power or not 😂 if I'm doing more repetitive work that day then it's fine
Much needed pod on the family segment. Thank you ♥️
🫶🫶🫶 thank you for listening, wendy! and appreciate the note on the fam segment!
This is my new comfort show💓
thank you for tuning in 🫶
I can't wait for the patreon! Looking forward to it
wooo sorry we didn't get to share more about it. getting today's episode out was a lil sweaty. thank you for your support! can't wait to build it out for you!!
I used to hate Tuesdays bcs it’s my highest meeting of the week day but now always look forward to it bcs of jomo pod!! Also excited about the patrion.. here’s my question, is it ok to ask for a raise within 6 months of starting a new job? Tldr is i quit my stressful high paying big tech job to work in a more chill corp with a pay cut.. now my WLB is so good, problems i face at work is also very fun and engaging but pay is a little low so im kinda fomo :’) that’s why i tune in to jomo !!
OOOOH this is a good question. adding it to our list!!
thank you so much!!
Maybe this podcast is always supposed to be business centered but hearing the way you guys talk about friends and friendship sounds business minded too 😭
yes - that's correct! jomo is meant to be a business podcast, from a more 360 view of what happens in between things and behind-the-scenes while pursing a career in tech and the creative world.
in terms of the stories shared in this episode, these were all in the context of business and networking events - not really friend events. hope that helps set the framing for you!
@@jomopod yes, thank you! Definitely a different and unique approach. I’m dailed in, keep it up 📺
This was a great conversation! I learned a lot! Thanks so much guys! Going to share with it my partner now lol.
aww thank you anphu!! so glad you enjoyed! curious to hear what your partner thinks haha ~
@@jomopod I’m curious too! I shall pester her and update! She’s not an avid listener/watcher of podcasts like me.
34:40 I have to ask how good are the securities at these events lol.
I think I have a good idea on what's going on. It seems these events are pretty intimate and you guys seem to really value honestly and transparency and it seem the other person has the ultra hustler mindset of keep trying and if it fails keep trying again.
Personally like you mentioned earlier 18:54 someone if everyone in the group thinks it's unacceptable they should be called out and kicked out. I think in their perspective they think they're just hustling and because no one wants to say anything then they just think their ultra hustler mindset works all the time.
38:02, I slightly disagree. I think it just that people hate confrontations and even a small callout requires extremely high levels of practice saying that something isn't acceptable while also not trying to hurt them(depending on the circumstance)
38:28 what would you say is secure attachment style of dealing with this situation, because I dont think it's bad to just avoid them since they drained your energy. well I guess they arent that important if you can just say bye, in reality it can also be handled like how you handled the networking friend and Chloe situation but you didnt express your struggles and they didnt get a chance to do anything
38:50 actually think that's really bad, they're just draining your energy, and imo theyre just also just hate conformation while also being extreme people pleasers and insecure to stand up for themselves, it's also bad because they tend to just vent and drain everyone energy too,
39:33 I need more information but like I said it might be that they are extreme people pleasers and insecure, and bad boys can hook onto people who are nice but have low self esteem.
for your situation about the guy that found what out that 20 years ago the friend was a creeper, I think it depends on 1. why the girl mentioned it in the first place(maybe it just slipped and the girl doesnt need action to be taken). The guy should talk to the girl about his feelings, you cant fix something that was never mentioned, and try to alleviate some of the guilt. As for the guys feelings for the other guy, if it's just a networking friend, then I think you should still try to network, if its a friends, then it is different however it was also 20 years ago, if it's something of value to you and you wont stand that behavior you should do what Eric does and fully get angry and say it's not okay to be creeper, not okay to spontaneously join pickle ball game etc..
24:16 as mentioned before since it's networking friends it should networking friends, yeah if you know they dislike each other, a very good approach is to be transparent at mentioning events they'll be at and consciously try to separate them. I think a good method for this mediation(which is good anyway) but it helps you actively focus the intention on yourself instead of focusing on they're bad people.
26:16 Eric said it best, but also to elaborate, it does feel slightly weird to drop everything for a friend because they dont get along. I think Chloe also understands why they will hangout but also knows that Eric is on her side.
Yessss! New episode ❤️🔥
ayeee welcome in welcome in ~
Hey Eric if you ever want to learn how to defend yourself without needing to get punched in the face try Jiu Jitsu! I've been training for 3 years and if you want to learn there are a lot of gyms in your area. Also, I'm not someone who subscribes to Patreons or buys courses online. Can I ask you guys when do you think it's worth to buy a course or support a creator on Patreon and who you guys currently support?
omg i literally went on your channel to check if the new episode is out its been 6 days whats happening haha
woo! you caught us on upload day!!
These are the scariest people to me who constantly fumbles through social interactions 😅😂
Good listen though. Now I know why I get excluded lol
I’m sorry my friend 😳😳 i hope there were some good learnings here!! I’ve fumbled a lot before but have a much stronger grasp of how I want to show up in social settings!
- chlo
Gym music ❌
Gym podcast ✅
ayeeee love to see a jomie getting their reps in!! 💪 we also got tagged in people's IG reels where they have a daily routine of working out and listening to the pod. 🥹
My wife and I sudo shadow-banned a guy for being way too flirty with the girls in the group. We didn't want to confront him about it either as his intentions were ill, and we have no tolerance of that bs We called these kinds of people Vultures. Vultures seek opportunities to sneak into situations that are favorable to them, for example if we all went to a party, he'd seek the most tipsy couple and try to get the girl to go dance with him. It was a disgusting behavior and we never tolerated it.
that sounds absolutely gross and makes me furious 😤😤😤
i'm glad y'all decided to shadowban him. that kind of behavior is unacceptable!
Good content as always
I have a best friend of 8 years, she ignores our group of friends (us 4) when we tell her her what her bf is doing is not appropriate(he cuddles with other girls but it’s fine cuz she’s there when it happens and their other friend group has different skinship boundaries... It’s happened 2x now where she ignores us, and it hurts, literally made our other friend cry in private. What to do? We’re young in our 20s, will she grow out of it ? Or stay with him because she doesn’t think anyone will ever love her? BUT she’s a gorgeous smart woman. But we’re grown adults, I’m ready to just break contact cuz she do be a follower & copies everything me and the other girls do lol 😭 but it’s fine cuz we’re besties but she acts so weird? Why can’t she talk to us about her feelings and be an adult? When she marries him and is miserable atleast she can never say we didn’t try, when he’s still cuddling w other woman, if he ain’t acting like ur husband now, then why would it change if yall get married ?!?! .
EARLY TO A PODCAST FOR ONCEEEEE
WOW IS THAT JASMINERICEGIRL?!?!
Not to seem chronically dehydrated but does Eric know how nice his arms are? Respectfully...I forget sometimes about the musclesss n veins 😅. Anyways, perfect timing, I love this pod so much🥰
🤣🤣🤣 CHRONICALLY DEHYDRATED 🤣🤣 i'm dead
- chloe
Man I really have to stop commenting so early, the entirety of the podcast leaves so much to discuss 😆
🤣🤣🤣 pls do tell us ur thoughts!!
Jomies post-it jomies post-it!
JOMIES JOMIES JOMIES!!
18:54 did no one kick him out because there were no guys involved?
Firstttt❤
yay!! 🫶🫶🫶
Put a foot stool for Eric on the side of the couch so he can be comfortable while on the pod! 😄
I DO BUT HE DOESN'T USE IT 🥲🥲🥲🥲
- chlo
The Emperor's New Clothes by Hans Christian Andersen folks, I swear everyone has a naked emperor story. Especially in LA!
ughh especially in LA!!!
Damn Eric finally got his dogs called out, rip the weekly stylish sock showoff. 🧦🐧
I personally don't mind the profanity, so if it makes y'all's lives easier my small vote says go for it. Angy Chloe and Eric. ✊️😤
Also would be interested in the Patreon and have Eric and Chloe impart wisdom onto my life! Do any of y'all have any techniques or tips to hype yourself up or boost self-esteem when you're feeling down? 🚀 My therapist and I have been discussing the topic of peeling away past and unhelpful labels recently, which continue to stick despite now being in much better environments.
please talk more about this.
@43:44 The ex got the idea from How I Met Your Mother 🤣 Another great pod
🤣🤣🤣 wow i did not know it was from how i met your mother!! hilarious tactic!
i've never used patreon before, but would be definitely interested in checking yours out 🥺
thank you!! we'll release when we built it up and feel proud of the quality and value we're providing!!
I think censoring the profanity makes it funnier and safe for work 😂 These creepy guys better not mess with you two and your friends, or they'll be called out here and become internet famous.
can you go a little more in depth of what you mean by business banking for creators
Too many creepy tech guys, me included. HAHAHAHAHA kidding.
NOT THE SELF AWARENESS 🤣🤣🤣
Censoring profanity would be helpful 😅
oh we already do it! hm i guess you're saying we should continue to censor it?