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You've blown my mind Eric. In my 20's I had this ideal of living in a 2 storey town house with an art studio and a balcony looking over the street below. Now in my 50's I have this exact studio. Up until today I thought it was all to do with holding an ideal and manifesting it. But now I realise it was just my 20 year old brain connecting with my 50 year old brain and seeing a glimpse of my future 🙏
Great conversation, thank you. My personal confirmation that there is more under heaven and earth occurred when I had a dream striking enough to bother telling my wife about it in all its absurd and vivid complexity, then having that dream unfold exactly, two weeks later.
Loving this a lot, it was talking about something I have been trying with my writing, and it feels really good to atleast have the activity of the ideas and being able to think about these things, with "schizophrenia" I have helped a lot by writing, and yet I am really glad to see people and feel like, the ideas are clear and the whole idea of ideas being useful to us as people. Like 'autogenic'. But otherwise I am just really glad to be able to say something! Take care all.
Interesting talk. Some of it would explain something that happened in my life. I dropped my sister off at work at a beach restaurant after we had a long deep talk about life. As she walked away, the sun was setting beyond her and I felt a terrible strange grief. A few hours later my husband told me he was on the way to the ER because she had been hit by a car. I heard nothing for over an hour and I thought she was dead. So…. A terrible Grief. I felt ahead into the future but not that she was hit by a drunk driver as she walked home.
I haven’t found a way to determine the difference between precognition or retro causation and manifestation . If there is a line between them it’s very vague.
maybe the precognition is came from external source while retro causation manifestation is came from internal source such as 'power of suggestions', law of attraction or distraction (cognitive malignant'..those are future event while retro cognition such as eschatology etc past events..
@@OdjoAdja sure it could be any which way but it will always be whatever you think it is Meaning if your perception and your beliefs are coherent you will see it through that lens What you experience IS your reality whether there is any actual basis for it or not .. The hard problem of consciousness is actually the impossible quagmire of subjectivity.. It seems they are the same phenomenon only depending on the perspective it is viewed from maybe?
It seems vague because of the human perspective here in this particular universe. Because of our misinterpretation of things. I wrote several papers and a couple of books about exactly this topic Eric Wargo is writing about, about 25 years ago. I used decades of synchronicity research and solved the problems and paradoxes they are talking about-not by any intellectual gymnastics but by taking an entirely different approach on what humans are and what the human experience of retro causality is. It is primarily through meaning-which can take many forms. We see meaning organizing in a synchronicity in the now but it traveled through many past activities. YOU organized the meaning backwards in time. In my first book I showed what all of historical events and evolution is saying about where humans are headed. The main way we see this is also through meaning organized on a larger scale by a larger universal mind. One definite example is the human eye. We are living operational symbols of the higher creative mind with our own symbolic creative powers, and our bodies also have been constructed by the future-beyond time-to reflect and encode where we are headed. My most recent book is entirely focused on the human eye as the key human symbolic structure bringing together meaning across vast expanses of space and time: “Eye of God: Language of universal mind” and the eye is just a single key example but in a larger book I am finishing up there are more than 30 examples. When you learn to see and read them, they will guide science to greater discovery because mere glimpses of these things in the past led to some of the greatest breakthroughs in history. It’s no less than the largest revolution in human history by far. Which is why I have struggled for decades to find anyone who understands the whole picture. Some come close, but mostly what happens they see a part of it, and make a career out of that part. I have so many surprising examples of now famous people I talked to before they were famous…. Anyway it’s because these meanings were built in to guide our consciousness. It’s real, and it works. It’s beyond ridiculous that I haven’t been able to even be interviewed by anyone on TH-cam. If they don’t understand a-priori they just won’t. But it’s that new-the foundations of our world view will change completely. And it is vital to our future survival so it’s worth taking the chance for them. Read my small book about the human eye… it’s less than 100 pages. I wrote it as an introduction to the idea. Hint: the book is about everything, not just the eye. Every one of these symbols was organized in the larger cognitive processes of evolution for meaning exactly like the human mind produces synchronicity. So this is why I say “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” because gods synchronicities are there to help us follow the path of life-in the form of the language of meaning in the universe. Everything in the universe is symbolic. Meaning is the primary selective force of evolution. So it’s important.
Wonderful conversation, as always. Thank you! What fodder for contemplation, especially in relation to some experiences I have had, and that people close to me have had. My boyfriend had multiple dreams about being with me 20 years ago... which he only remembered as they were being realized. It seems that our relationship and love, being eternal, gave birth to itself. This is interesting to consider that primordial Eros (aka Phanes) is of the mythic archetype of the self-generated, first-born (protogonos) gods, who inseminates himself into being.
A dream from one of my 130 dream journals: " I saw a great body of water, it represented Everything. There was an almond shape lens in that water. I studied and experienced that Everything through that almond shape lens." -----The best way to interpret one´s dreams is to use pendulum for dowsing or ask for an advice from the computer of you mind -and sleep again! 🙂Vesica Pisces (Jeffrey is the sexiest man alive!)
@@mari-atonjalkanen9920 Yes, I talk about the vesica Pisces shape in the eye as part of how to decode it. I understand exactly what your dream meant. You say almond but there’s another vesica Pisces type shape, the lens of the eye, which is a 3-d version-in that two spheres overlapping makes that shape instead of two circles. I actually wrote a book about the symbolism of the human eye called “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” and that sounds like what you were dreaming about. I think you would benefit greatly from it. ❤️🔥👁️❤️🔥 Incidentally, the flying saucer 🛸 shape is also an overlapping sphere shape. I think the “modern mythology” as Jung called it, of UFO’s partly comes from the message objectively and inherently built into the human eye from a larger “alien” intelligence waiting for when humans were ready-there’s no way we could have decoded this until quite recently with the discoveries of science. So in that way, aliens are actually coming to Earth in a flying saucer 😂👍🏻 I don’t talk about ufo’s in the book though, because people would just dismiss it. Literally I would be the best guest Jeffrey ever had on his show because I have a “unified theory” of all the things he discusses here… I don’t understand why he hasn’t interviewed me yet 😂🤷♀️ when you finish reading the book and manage to calm down, please email Jeffrey to advocate having me on. I would appreciate it. I need help. It took all my resources for 30 years outside the system to make these connections and I don’t have a lot of means and connections. Yes, I am saying “Take me to your leader” human. ❤️😂 Thank you 🙏🏻
Great show!!! AS ALWAYS! There is an episode of”The Shawn Ryan Show” where he interviewed Joe Mcmoneagle (incredible show by the way) where he talked about our troops having g access to head sets or some sort of system they hooked up to that some how was connected to the wearer that was able to connect I guess or some how was I tune with the wearers intuition to where it could pick up on the moment the wearer sensed his or her own imminent danger or threat of danger. In this case it was to potentially sense when the survey convoy came upon a mine or mines buried. You have to listen to it from the show. I’m probably not getting that absolutely right. But you should check it out. Cheers.
Thanks. I’ll look for it. I know a guy who said he used training from Silva mind control to avoid traps and bombs in the war. The other guys wanted to be around him because he was “lucky”.
In one of my visions, I observed a set of Shakespeare’s Tragedies, Histories and Comedies being transported back through time and gifted to Anne Hathaway. Would that be retrocausation?
In the Nobel prize anecdote : Eric says « it bothers people that no one ever solves the mathematical problem in that loop » but the original old man did, this is how he got the Nobel prize, then he gives it to his younger self, who maybe gets the Nobel prize earlier in his life and just goes on to live and eventually die. Also where is the loop? The young mathematician doesn’t need to go back in time… so where would the loop be?
In dreams about the future, there are choices. If you do so-and-so, the result will be so-and-so. But the professor unfortunately doesn't seem to be approaching the question empirically. He seems to want to squeeze reality into a simplified theoretical model.
Daimon. Where's the Daimon in Erics proposition? There's more evidence of the Daimon than Erics idea when it comes to creativity - myself speaking as an artist for 35yrs. The danger that Eric and others suggest about creativity is that a "best" ideas simply flash into the minds of an artist... willy nilly. This negates and devalues the years of study, practise, craft, critical thinking and play; which it takes to get good. And, in actual fact the "best" does actually stem from labour. There's a technogratic aspect to Eric's arugment that it all comes spotaneously, like downloading an App or creating it via AI...this could lead people to think it's an apathetic process. I am sympathetic to the idea that time is not linear and we draw on our own futures. But to date, we are confined by the natural process of learning.
Statement of Comment Etiquette for New Thinking Allowed
You are asked to be courteous at all times to all participants, and to limit your comments to the topics discussed in the videos. Your thoughtful participation is encouraged. If you post insulting comments here or promote political propaganda, conspiracy theories, or religious dogmas as if they were the absolute truth, you will have disqualified yourself and you will be permanently banned from posting on this channel. Except however, if you still want to post an aggressively rude or off-topic comment (and haven't yet been banned from posting), go visit our monolog about George Carlin at th-cam.com/video/e5MKv667TRI/w-d-xo.html. All comments will be accepted there, but not here.
You've blown my mind Eric. In my 20's I had this ideal of living in a 2 storey town house with an art studio and a balcony looking over the street below. Now in my 50's I have this exact studio. Up until today I thought it was all to do with holding an ideal and manifesting it. But now I realise it was just my 20 year old brain connecting with my 50 year old brain and seeing a glimpse of my future 🙏
Maybe it's both. Maybe your will is a factor.
Who's to say these things don't interplay?
@@mjones410 That process is symbolic of how god does it with universes. 😊
I want the same. However, two studios. One in Miami, the other in Bangkok!!!
Great conversation, thank you. My personal confirmation that there is more under heaven and earth occurred when I had a dream striking enough to bother telling my wife about it in all its absurd and vivid complexity, then having that dream unfold exactly, two weeks later.
Loving this a lot, it was talking about something I have been trying with my writing, and it feels really good to atleast have the activity of the ideas and being able to think about these things, with "schizophrenia" I have helped a lot by writing, and yet I am really glad to see people and feel like, the ideas are clear and the whole idea of ideas being useful to us as people. Like 'autogenic'. But otherwise I am just really glad to be able to say something!
Take care all.
Interesting talk. Some of it would explain something that happened in my life. I dropped my sister off at work at a beach restaurant after we had a long deep talk about life. As she walked away, the sun was setting beyond her and I felt a terrible strange grief. A few hours later my husband told me he was on the way to the ER because she had been hit by a car. I heard nothing for over an hour and I thought she was dead. So…. A terrible Grief. I felt ahead into the future but not that she was hit by a drunk driver as she walked home.
I’m surprised that I could follow this. Loved it!
I haven’t found a way to determine the difference between precognition or retro causation and manifestation . If there is a line between them it’s very vague.
maybe the precognition is came from external source while retro causation manifestation is came from internal source such as 'power of suggestions', law of attraction or distraction (cognitive malignant'..those are future event while retro cognition such as eschatology etc past events..
@@OdjoAdja sure it could be any which way but it will always be whatever you think it is
Meaning if your perception and your beliefs are coherent you will see it through that lens
What you experience IS your reality whether there is any actual basis for it or not ..
The hard problem of consciousness is actually the impossible quagmire of subjectivity..
It seems they are the same phenomenon only depending on the perspective it is viewed from maybe?
It seems vague because of the human perspective here in this particular universe. Because of our misinterpretation of things. I wrote several papers and a couple of books about exactly this topic Eric Wargo is writing about, about 25 years ago. I used decades of synchronicity research and solved the problems and paradoxes they are talking about-not by any intellectual gymnastics but by taking an entirely different approach on what humans are and what the human experience of retro causality is. It is primarily through meaning-which can take many forms. We see meaning organizing in a synchronicity in the now but it traveled through many past activities. YOU organized the meaning backwards in time. In my first book I showed what all of historical events and evolution is saying about where humans are headed. The main way we see this is also through meaning organized on a larger scale by a larger universal mind. One definite example is the human eye. We are living operational symbols of the higher creative mind with our own symbolic creative powers, and our bodies also have been constructed by the future-beyond time-to reflect and encode where we are headed. My most recent book is entirely focused on the human eye as the key human symbolic structure bringing together meaning across vast expanses of space and time: “Eye of God: Language of universal mind” and the eye is just a single key example but in a larger book I am finishing up there are more than 30 examples. When you learn to see and read them, they will guide science to greater discovery because mere glimpses of these things in the past led to some of the greatest breakthroughs in history. It’s no less than the largest revolution in human history by far. Which is why I have struggled for decades to find anyone who understands the whole picture. Some come close, but mostly what happens they see a part of it, and make a career out of that part. I have so many surprising examples of now famous people I talked to before they were famous…. Anyway it’s because these meanings were built in to guide our consciousness. It’s real, and it works. It’s beyond ridiculous that I haven’t been able to even be interviewed by anyone on TH-cam. If they don’t understand a-priori they just won’t. But it’s that new-the foundations of our world view will change completely. And it is vital to our future survival so it’s worth taking the chance for them. Read my small book about the human eye… it’s less than 100 pages. I wrote it as an introduction to the idea. Hint: the book is about everything, not just the eye. Every one of these symbols was organized in the larger cognitive processes of evolution for meaning exactly like the human mind produces synchronicity. So this is why I say “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” because gods synchronicities are there to help us follow the path of life-in the form of the language of meaning in the universe. Everything in the universe is symbolic. Meaning is the primary selective force of evolution. So it’s important.
praying to be happened or abracadabra is retro causation while blink or eureka is pre-cognitive..
@@spiralsun1 we should be friends
What does this mean in your symbology
❤️🌀👁
absolutely awesome podcast! there is hope for all of us who continuously get things wrong!
JM ..........a real Power Duo ......Jeff & Eric , Thank you !!!
Wonderful conversation, as always. Thank you! What fodder for contemplation, especially in relation to some experiences I have had, and that people close to me have had. My boyfriend had multiple dreams about being with me 20 years ago... which he only remembered as they were being realized. It seems that our relationship and love, being eternal, gave birth to itself. This is interesting to consider that primordial Eros (aka Phanes) is of the mythic archetype of the self-generated, first-born (protogonos) gods, who inseminates himself into being.
In a fabulous time loop i just finished reading Jeffs books😂
A dream from one of my 130 dream journals: " I saw a great body of water, it represented Everything. There was an almond shape lens in that water. I studied and experienced that Everything through that almond shape lens." -----The best way to interpret one´s dreams is to use pendulum for dowsing or ask for an advice from the computer of you mind -and sleep again! 🙂Vesica Pisces (Jeffrey is the sexiest man alive!)
@@mari-atonjalkanen9920 Yes, I talk about the vesica Pisces shape in the eye as part of how to decode it. I understand exactly what your dream meant. You say almond but there’s another vesica Pisces type shape, the lens of the eye, which is a 3-d version-in that two spheres overlapping makes that shape instead of two circles. I actually wrote a book about the symbolism of the human eye called “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” and that sounds like what you were dreaming about. I think you would benefit greatly from it. ❤️🔥👁️❤️🔥
Incidentally, the flying saucer 🛸 shape is also an overlapping sphere shape. I think the “modern mythology” as Jung called it, of UFO’s partly comes from the message objectively and inherently built into the human eye from a larger “alien” intelligence waiting for when humans were ready-there’s no way we could have decoded this until quite recently with the discoveries of science. So in that way, aliens are actually coming to Earth in a flying saucer 😂👍🏻 I don’t talk about ufo’s in the book though, because people would just dismiss it. Literally I would be the best guest Jeffrey ever had on his show because I have a “unified theory” of all the things he discusses here… I don’t understand why he hasn’t interviewed me yet 😂🤷♀️ when you finish reading the book and manage to calm down, please email Jeffrey to advocate having me on. I would appreciate it. I need help. It took all my resources for 30 years outside the system to make these connections and I don’t have a lot of means and connections. Yes, I am saying “Take me to your leader” human. ❤️😂 Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you !
Dr Eric wargo the best!!
This has happened to me a lot
Thank you
56:29 Freewill and predetermination are not two different things. They are the same thing from two perspectives.
I think he meant super determinism
Love this stuff!
Very interesting. These type chats always remind me of Neville Goddard (who spent his entire career discussing this framework)
Immaculate Constellation?
Great show!!! AS ALWAYS!
There is an episode of”The Shawn Ryan Show” where he interviewed Joe Mcmoneagle (incredible show by the way) where he talked about our troops having g access to head sets or some sort of system they hooked up to that some how was connected to the wearer that was able to connect I guess or some how was I tune with the wearers intuition to where it could pick up on the moment the wearer sensed his or her own imminent danger or threat of danger. In this case it was to potentially sense when the survey convoy came upon a mine or mines buried.
You have to listen to it from the show. I’m probably not getting that absolutely right.
But you should check it out.
Cheers.
Thanks. I’ll look for it.
I know a guy who said he used training from Silva mind control to avoid traps and bombs in the war. The other guys wanted to be around him because he was “lucky”.
Fascinating stuff. I wonder if any of this relates to Leonard Susskind's ideas about a holographic universe.
In one of my visions, I observed a set of Shakespeare’s Tragedies, Histories and Comedies being transported back through time and gifted to Anne Hathaway. Would that be retrocausation?
And she just copied them?
The thing I feared has comed upon me
In other words... synchronicity, time-loops, retro-causation, etc... these are features not bugs. Or perhaps... hacks?
Part of the simulation ?
Creation ex nihilo should not be called like that, since there was never "nothing" to create from.
In the Nobel prize anecdote : Eric says « it bothers people that no one ever solves the mathematical problem in that loop » but the original old man did, this is how he got the Nobel prize, then he gives it to his younger self, who maybe gets the Nobel prize earlier in his life and just goes on to live and eventually die. Also where is the loop? The young mathematician doesn’t need to go back in time… so where would the loop be?
It's still a loop, just not an infinite loop
In dreams about the future, there are choices. If you do so-and-so, the result will be so-and-so. But the professor unfortunately doesn't seem to be approaching the question empirically. He seems to want to squeeze reality into a simplified theoretical model.
Daimon. Where's the Daimon in Erics proposition? There's more evidence of the Daimon than Erics idea when it comes to creativity - myself speaking as an artist for 35yrs. The danger that Eric and others suggest about creativity is that a "best" ideas simply flash into the minds of an artist... willy nilly. This negates and devalues the years of study, practise, craft, critical thinking and play; which it takes to get good. And, in actual fact the "best" does actually stem from labour. There's a technogratic aspect to Eric's arugment that it all comes spotaneously, like downloading an App or creating it via AI...this could lead people to think it's an apathetic process.
I am sympathetic to the idea that time is not linear and we draw on our own futures. But to date, we are confined by the natural process of learning.