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Yet another excellent video, I am sure your work will wind up with hundreds of thousands of views and should be seen by people at Sandhurst, Westpoint, RMC, and other Commonwealth military academies.
In popular general knowledge, not many people outside of history fans are aware that the Pearl Harbour attack and the South East Asia conquest started around the same time. The Pearl Harbour attack is much more well-known, but it was actually not the primary target. The conquest of South East Asia is the primary goal. However, it was impossible to conquer without bring the US into war, so Japan had to strike first to have any real chance of victory. The Pearl Harbour attack is the secondary goal of crippling the US fleet to buy time for Japan to establish themselves in South East Asia while the US navy is recovering. Of course, in hindsight, the US navy not only recovered much faster than expected, but the whole US economy went into mad war production economy to eventually out-produce every other country in the war.
The entire early Pacific War strategy is all predicated around seizing the oil fields of the Dutch East Indies and the oil refineries at Palembang (mostly). The Philippines and Singapore were places from which a defense of this area could be mounted. The US fleet at Pearl was also a target because it could be used to protect the Dutch East Indies. If you have ever played War in the Pacific, Admiral's Edition (the best and most realistic simulation of the Pacific War ever made)...you will discover that the best Japanese players consider the early attacks from the perspective of being able to get to and hold Palembang as quickly as possible. All actions are to be considered from the lens of 'will this help me take or hold Palembang' to determine if the activity of their forces is worth while.
To be honest, if Japan had not attacked the US possessions in the pacific theatre at all, it is highly questionable on whether the US would have entered the war on the allied side at this point. The US president would have had a difficult time to convince the US senate to declare war on Japan to protect Dutch and British colonies in the far east, especially the Dutch colonies as the Dutch mainland was now part of Germany.
This was always the most impressive japanese feat of the war to me. The Malaya campaign is nice and all, but taking these huge islands with terrible terrain in 3 months? Insane
@@fadhil2831 They paid a heavy price for it. Local people were forced to 'volunteer' men for working duty for the Japanese military and many were sent to help construct the Burma Railway. In western history books the fact that over 12,000 Allied POWs died constructing this railway glossed over the fact that the local 'volunteer' workers suffered many more deaths. Over 90,000 At least at Bronbeek, a retirement home for veteran soldiers, this was corrected because I read it on the monument in their garden first, about 10 years ago. But during most of my youth, we were always reminded at the plight and the many deaths of Allied POWs, hardly a word about the local workers' fate.
Indonesian here, i never knew there are a lot of allied millitary response and operations within dutch east indies, it was rarely talked about in general history, and what i learned from school only talks about Indonesians own struggle against the dutch and the japanese, thank you for telling this stories to the public!
@@orionfernandes4587 Of course the colonizing powers brought a lot of good things! Here are some examples: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuta_Reh_massacre en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rengat_massacre en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawagede_massacre
I don't comment here often because I mostly watch these videos on my TV. But honestly your videos are supremely researched and narrated! You put anything the modern "History" Channel could create to shame big time!
It had nothing to do with pleasing the US and all to do with trying to keep japan as far away as possible by declaring war asap. The netherlands wanted an agressive combined allied attack on japanese forces but the US was cripled and the brittish in asia ultra passive and defensive and the dutch navy insufficient after 30 years of pacifist defense policy. Their plans to massively expand the navy were 5 years too late.
@@jaapfolmer7791 well yeah....do you expect the United States to be eager to go to war for the sake of liberating someone else, or stoping the ridiculous imperial ambitions of a former ally?
And I, as a person from Makassar, would like to thank USS Marblehead and USS Houston for their efforts to defend Makassar against japanese landing 10:06
Thank you for making this video. This brings back my memory when I studied the history of Japanese occupation in Indonesia. Anyways a few years ago I read a book "Under The Rising Sun" by Nino Oktorino who describes why The Royal Netherlands Indies Army or KNIL lose against the Japanese. The KNIL simply lose because they're underequipped and understrength back then. Also, the KNIL soldier trained to fight guerillas or local rebellion not to fight the foreign invasion. Many of the native KNIL soldiers began to desert during Japanese Invasions. *Sorry for my bad English
Dutch contribution in Pacific is so underrated same as with the ANZACs, after NEI fell they organized an Army, Airforce and a submarine flotilla in Australia to contribute in the Pacific campaign supplied with US and Commonwealth gear. Their submarine fleet was probably the 2nd largest Allied submarine force in the Pacific after the USN.
not so crazy if you put their confrontation forces opposite eachother...then it is simply a matter of MORE than 3 to 1 especially when incorporating BETTER material (tanks vs no tanks,planes vs obsolete shit,more ships, more torpedos...etc..). But...but...but...yamashita decided on using LESS troops...yeah, but he counted on even LESS UK troops in Malaya..
Osprey publishing also has a wonderful Campaign guide by Mark Stille. With illustrations by Jim Laurier. If your in the mood for a quicker, if less in depth read.
Doesn't this not even popular historian trial lawyer blame this catastrophe on MacArthur? Never heard this garbage before now. First the Bonus Marchers and now this!
To think The Dutch was fallen from an Apex to the bottom floor in a single night both at home and in the colonies. That's why I always try to humble myself because history teaches me how fate of a nation or a person can drastically change in mere seconds.
First of all the dutch golden age had bin over for centuries after this point and secondly the Netherlands is still economically punching above it's weight to this day
@@Spongeward_Tentpants golden age is not that great too overseas actually it was the only trader that did conquest in Asia, malay archipelago is weak as fuck by nature, you can replace VOC with anything, but Indonesia would still be colonized by others.
@@whanua98 Its not that easy to conquer a volcanic jungle island let alone thousands and why would they want to initially they were just there to take over already existing trade routes not try to start conflicts with locals
Soerabaja (at 5:30 & 10:00) is pronounced Soo-ra-ba-ya, the ‘j’ in ‘Soerabaja’ makes a ‘y’ sound in dutch pronunciation, instead of the ‘h’ sound as is common in Spanish pronunciation. ‘Soerabaja’ is an old dutch spelling of modern-day Surabaya, which in addition to being the provincial capital city of East Java, it is also home to the 2nd Fleet Command and a naval base of the Indonesian Navy. I can’t wait for more episodes on the South East Asian theatre, I really like your work. Thank you very much!
I love this series, as an Indonesian myself, I really love the Dutch East Indies getting more attention. It is a subject of great intrigue, how the Japanese are able to accomplish so much, so soon. Great Video! Edit: By the way, it the J is not pronounced as H, but Y.
Wow, the Japanese juggernaut seems unstoppable. I hope they don't get involved in a disastrous naval battle sometime in the future involving several aircraft carriers and an island with alleged water supply problems or something
This was a great video, I always enjoy seeing events like these or battle be animated in this sort of way. I did notice a minor error though and that's that Boise was actually a light cruiser not a heavy cruiser, other than that though the video was really well put together and treat to watch.
Playing as Japan for this gives me a headache, even if you already beat China it's so hard to keep the pressure up in India, in the Indies, and in the Pacific simultaneously I think the Allies in Hoi4 send many more troops to this part of the world than there were irl
@@prrrromotiongiven1075 That actually was pretty much the case in real life too except that Japan was unable to conquer China and thus had a gigantic front which they needed to focus on, by 1942 Japan was entirely bogged down everywhere.
@@MorokLeviathan You Chinese (Jiang is a Chinese surname), tend to overstate your accomplishments in the war when your entire Air Force and motorized divisions were made in the USA. Japan had conquered 90% of the Chinese population, because China's most populated cities sit on the Eastern coast so this naturally makes sense. China had two counteroffensives which both had failed even in 1945 when Japan was essentially reduced to rubble from repeated American bombings. You guys only survived Japan because the Americans&British were siphoning Japanese manpower to other regions.
Makassar is my current city, before moved from Surabaya. Thank you for making this history up, Indonesia is huge and wide. But, Japan could had its under their empire just within days.
@@JoPJR-ms8mg yeah too much clicking -.-' I often attack and defeat the USSR, before going after the east indies, just so I can more easily move my troops to western Europe and naval invade the British isles directly (will the AI ever defend Dover?) That way I can capitulate them without island-hopping :D Ah yes. Nothing beats sending 4 Million Chinese conscripts on Japanese bikes through Russian Siberia to help the Germans beat up the Brits :D
I've been a subscriber since your Force Z video, mainly because you are one of the few that provides detailed content on the lesser-known battles in the Pacific. The excellent quality of your videos helps too. Looking forward to ABDACOMs battles and Nagumo's foray into the Indian ocean.
Really enjoying your videos! They are always very well researched and presented, and its clear that a lot of work goes into them. They are basically perfect right now.
Axis in WW2 German : blitzkrieg in europe, occupying some nation within months Japan : blitzkrieg in asia, occupying several region within months Italia : Hold my pizza and pasta 🤌🏽
Soerabaja is the old Dutch spelling for Surabaya. It’s not supposed to be pronounced in a Spanish manner. I know, I was born there. Soo-rha-bye-yah. Great videos in this series. Not a lot of discussions focuses on Japanese advance in Indonesia. We learnt about it at school, but from the invaded nation’s point of view.
Thank you for the superb video. Never fail to amaze. The Allied ships faced fuel shortage at this stage. Fuel storage was inland and after the bombing, there were hardly any port operations. Minutions were also running low and hence, some destroyers were withdrawn from actions.
”When the Dutch was here. It was not good, not good, bad. But.. but when the Japanese came here. It was worse. ” I forgot who send this but my friend grandma or someone else like someone a who lived in the Dutch East Indies. I am sorry for forgetting. But it is a chilling tone
Burma and Indian Campaign is not Pacific theatre, geographically they're in proximity of Indian Ocean and closer than the Pacific. So officialy I would call it Indian Ocean Theatre
@@brijekavervix7340 I wouldnt be a slave because I wasn't pillaging Asian countries and colonizing them. Non-combatants such as myself would find work for money, just like the volunteer comfort women did. You're talking about American and Western POWs. What were Westerners even doing in Asia in the first place? You think the soviet union were the good guys? The british and french who literally conquered more than half the world? These nations slaughtered millions of innocents for their country. You cant be this naive. Japan's economy was impressive until Allies started firebombing their factories and blowing up children, women, and elderly people.
There was this dutch submarine commander and he sunk 52 japanese ships in 52 days, he sunk more ships in that time than the brits and Americans combined, the Americans gave him the nickname "ship a day"
@@141Travish I’m talking about the crew. Airmen will always respect and mourn other airmen, the same for submariners. These are dangerous and high fatality jobs. Politics has nothing to do with the respect I have for the Dutch crews.
Java was not the capital of the Dutch East Indies. That was Batavia, which was on the island of Java. Java was and still is the most populated island of the Indonesian archipelago. Most Indonesians live there.
As an Indonesian and fans of WW II, this is new to me. Provide us Indonesian with broader picture of our occupation. All we knew was the Japan occupation of our & neighbouring countries, our fight against Japan & Pearl Harbor attack, the Solomon campaign & the rest of Pacific theatre. Not so much talk about this. Thank you so much for your work. Subbed.
Yes but this was just about the maximum plausible expansion for them. They could have in theory conquered more but they could have also failed a lot more. So what they got was pretty much the maximum they could get. More than this and it requires the Allies to make one too many mistakes for it to be plausible
The Japanese prioritized the invasion of East Indies(mostly Borneo), Malaya and maybe Phillipines to capture their natural resources for the war effort
The bigger drama the US Navy had was the Submarines and Torpedo bombers Torpedoes were duds. This early part of the war hundreds were fired for 5% results. There is a video on it that explains it better than I can. It caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of Mariners due to corrupt inept testing and ratification methods
Great video once again! A time and theatre of war that is often overlooked in the history of the Second World War, at least in European history lessons
2:08 The japanese ō (also seen as ou) is pronounced as a drawn-out "oh" sound, not "oo". Other than that, absolutely fantastic work. I'm addicted to this series.
Boise is pronounced "BOY-zee," the 'e' is long, not silent. If you're Idahoan, apparently it's pronounced "BOYSS-ee." The name most likely originates from the French word for "wooded," "boisée." Been binging your channel all day. Saw all the people correcting your pronunciation in this video. Thought I might join in. Cheers!
Ah glorious memories of playing SSI's Pacific War and doing this very blitz in 3 weeks instead of the 3 months it actually took. The shipping shortage can be remedied by redeploying transports from the rest of the empire. This is where they were needed. Naturally after a 3 week blitz this opens up Australia, New Guinea and India like crazy. They're not ready in January '42. : - ) Quite sad to hear of the tragedy at Balikpapan. The Naka and some DD's are more than able to annihilate 4 ABDA DD's at night. Shame they were led astray.
Thailand was the Japanese ally. Major factor for lightning attack on Malaya & Indonesia. Thailand made agreement with the Japanese to share the spoils of war.
Fantastic new video-loving the Southeast Asia series and I'm looking forward to the next episode. This is super nit-picky, but I wanted to bring up that the US flag/ensign did not have 50 stars until 1960; your diagram starting around 3:30 should only have a 48 star ensign.
I always find it funny how everyone talks vividly about Japans expansion as something horrible while ignoring they expanded on already occupied lands by the British, the Dutch and the Americans, that were exploiting natural resources for over 100 years and had no issue with "population pacification" when the locals got ideas of self rule (Filipine American wars)
Contrary to public belief, prior to The start of WW II, the US did not leave any way out for Japan except to strike back. Since the time of the discoveries of the 15th century and till current times, control of resources is still the core reason for empires to use force worldwide to accomplish that end!
One has to wonder if the British would have collapsed in North Africa like they did here if the Axis operated with naval superiority in the Mediterranean. Or maybe the distances and terrain involved didn't allow for a Blitzkrieg strategy. Supply chains and logistics are greatly overlooked in WW2 save for the Eastern front in Europe
The Japanese had the 'Bicycle Blitzkrieg'. Due to dense forest and narrow roads, the open Nazi blitzkrieg was not adopted. The 3 divisions of the 25th Japanese Army each, was equipped with 500 lorries and 6000 bicycles. They had 200 tanks (Type 97 and 95). The Allied had none in Malaya.
Does anyone know if there is a video on the differing design philosophy of the different countries navies of world War 2, 3:16 he mentions the difference design philosophies and that could be really interesting. @historigraph
It still astonishes me that the Japanese were able to establish control over thee entire Singapore, Malay, Indonesian archipelago as quickly as they did. It must have been a tremendous shock to the British.(and Dutch).
As an Indonesian, this part of the history is often if not always overlooked by schools.. school books just completely skip this part and went to Japanese "liberate" Indonesia from Dutch.. and all the committee to "support" the pro-independence movement..
@@maozedong44 What?everyone learn that life under japan occupation was brutal and we even learn the romusha which force labor during japan occupation ,the reason why you never see us indonesian talking about it because we pretty chill and already move on,heck we even making fun of romusha by saying it was the biggest weebs event in indonesia History
Good video. Two questions. 1. TheAmerican author of the famous book, The Two Ocean War stated that if the Allied had concentrated on Java instead of pouring all resources into Singapore a line could have been held. What is your opinion on the subject? 2. Watching some Australian videos, the Australian's had the opinion that the Allied had the objective of defending India and abandoning Australia. Churchhill wanted the 7th Australia infantry division routed to Burma. If that had happened the fight over the mountains would be lost and the battle of Milne Bay would be lost as well. If Darwin and Perth were attacked after the Java Sea, the plan was to abandon the facilities. What are your thoughts on the subject? Thanks
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Yet another excellent video, I am sure your work will wind up with hundreds of thousands of views and should be seen by people at Sandhurst, Westpoint, RMC, and other Commonwealth military academies.
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Enjoying the Singapore/East Indies campaign series :)
Yo its you
Me too! Always a pleasure to get either of your channel's videos in my feed.
I just finished watching ur video 🤣🤣
Me too, I love it!
Just done binging your great videos
In popular general knowledge, not many people outside of history fans are aware that the Pearl Harbour attack and the South East Asia conquest started around the same time. The Pearl Harbour attack is much more well-known, but it was actually not the primary target. The conquest of South East Asia is the primary goal. However, it was impossible to conquer without bring the US into war, so Japan had to strike first to have any real chance of victory. The Pearl Harbour attack is the secondary goal of crippling the US fleet to buy time for Japan to establish themselves in South East Asia while the US navy is recovering. Of course, in hindsight, the US navy not only recovered much faster than expected, but the whole US economy went into mad war production economy to eventually out-produce every other country in the war.
The entire early Pacific War strategy is all predicated around seizing the oil fields of the Dutch East Indies and the oil refineries at Palembang (mostly). The Philippines and Singapore were places from which a defense of this area could be mounted. The US fleet at Pearl was also a target because it could be used to protect the Dutch East Indies.
If you have ever played War in the Pacific, Admiral's Edition (the best and most realistic simulation of the Pacific War ever made)...you will discover that the best Japanese players consider the early attacks from the perspective of being able to get to and hold Palembang as quickly as possible. All actions are to be considered from the lens of 'will this help me take or hold Palembang' to determine if the activity of their forces is worth while.
To be honest, if Japan had not attacked the US possessions in the pacific theatre at all, it is highly questionable on whether the US would have entered the war on the allied side at this point. The US president would have had a difficult time to convince the US senate to declare war on Japan to protect Dutch and British colonies in the far east, especially the Dutch colonies as the Dutch mainland was now part of Germany.
@@ariantes221 The Netherlands supported the Finns and the Germans not the Japanese.
@@ariantes221 Admiral Nagano had advocated such a strategy, but he was overruled.
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 erm? What?
This area of Asia is among the most overlooked in events after Pearl Harbour.
Among? A- among us!?!? 😳
I'm sorry
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@@md.tamzidislam6580 I wish I could delete my comment, but I'll just make another among us comment. I can't stop the among us, I need therapy... 😔
Not to mention that China is basically overlooked,
China suffered the most brutality of Japan
The islands of Aru, Tanimbar and the Irian Jaya town, Merauke even more so.
This was always the most impressive japanese feat of the war to me. The Malaya campaign is nice and all, but taking these huge islands with terrible terrain in 3 months? Insane
Defended by a tiny European country that’s homeland had been conquered
@@lesdodoclips3915 Colonialism is so wrong.
@@deadby15 cry about it
Well some indonesia kind of welcom the japanese promise Give local people power unlike the dutch so yeah
@@fadhil2831 They paid a heavy price for it. Local people were forced to 'volunteer' men for working duty for the Japanese military and many were sent to help construct the Burma Railway.
In western history books the fact that over 12,000 Allied POWs died constructing this railway glossed over the fact that the local 'volunteer' workers suffered many more deaths.
Over 90,000
At least at Bronbeek, a retirement home for veteran soldiers, this was corrected because I read it on the monument in their garden first, about 10 years ago.
But during most of my youth, we were always reminded at the plight and the many deaths of Allied POWs, hardly a word about the local workers' fate.
Indonesian here, i never knew there are a lot of allied millitary response and operations within dutch east indies, it was rarely talked about in general history, and what i learned from school only talks about Indonesians own struggle against the dutch and the japanese, thank you for telling this stories to the public!
Propaganda, btw.
Off course, why would they want you to know all the good things the colonizers have done? That would undermine their power
@@orionfernandes4587 Of course the colonizing powers brought a lot of good things! Here are some examples:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuta_Reh_massacre
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rengat_massacre
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawagede_massacre
@@condedooku9750 So nice
@@condedooku9750 Wkwkwk
Dutch: phew, at least we still have the colonies
Japanese: nope, you're the pisang
Pisang 🍌?
@@j.h1529 It means 'banana' in malay/indonesian. 'Being the pisang' is now a Dutch expression meaning 'you're screwed'
Anjayyy
Pisang? Are you Boer? Or Indonesian?
@@ansosboy8687 just from the Netherlands
"Today we are talking about the Japanese invasion of... "
*5 minutes into the video *
"The British retreat turned into madness..."
I don't comment here often because I mostly watch these videos on my TV. But honestly your videos are supremely researched and narrated!
You put anything the modern "History" Channel could create to shame big time!
Back when Cruisers could camouflage as an island (yes that's the Solomon Islands Special ;) )
Dutch: "Aight we lost our homeland, but lets please the US anyways by declaring war on Japan."
Japan: "I'd have taken it anyways, but sure."
USA: 'thanks for the support, but we now support the Indonesians so plz give up your colony'
It had nothing to do with pleasing the US and all to do with trying to keep japan as far away as possible by declaring war asap. The netherlands wanted an agressive combined allied attack on japanese forces but the US was cripled and the brittish in asia ultra passive and defensive and the dutch navy insufficient after 30 years of pacifist defense policy. Their plans to massively expand the navy were 5 years too late.
No, Dutch: let's get the US into the war so that we can get liberated.
The US congress did not want that. It took Pearl Harbor to change their mind.
@@jaapfolmer7791 well yeah....do you expect the United States to be eager to go to war for the sake of liberating someone else, or stoping the ridiculous imperial ambitions of a former ally?
Hey the Marblehead is named after my town! Fun fact: the local library has a model of the ship in a display case.
Wanna see Marblehead in Azur Lane?
And I, as a person from Makassar, would like to thank USS Marblehead and USS Houston for their efforts to defend Makassar against japanese landing 10:06
I enjoy your content, this SE Asia series especially. For future reference, Boise (capitol city of Idaho) is pronounced Boizee.
yes, 2 syllables, not one. Boy-zee
And was a light cruiser. Luckily she hit that reef or she would had suffered the same fate as the rest of the lost fleet.
Good stuff. Us Brits pronounce Zee as zed. It would still be Boys anyway
*Boyzone?*
@@thyssenheinel6507 ??
Boise, pronounced Boizee.
Thank you for making this video. This brings back my memory when I studied the history of Japanese occupation in Indonesia. Anyways a few years ago I read a book "Under The Rising Sun" by Nino Oktorino who describes why The Royal Netherlands Indies Army or KNIL lose against the Japanese. The KNIL simply lose because they're underequipped and understrength back then. Also, the KNIL soldier trained to fight guerillas or local rebellion not to fight the foreign invasion. Many of the native KNIL soldiers began to desert during Japanese Invasions.
*Sorry for my bad English
Dutch contribution in Pacific is so underrated same as with the ANZACs, after NEI fell they organized an Army, Airforce and a submarine flotilla in Australia to contribute in the Pacific campaign supplied with US and Commonwealth gear. Their submarine fleet was probably the 2nd largest Allied submarine force in the Pacific after the USN.
It's crazy how Japan was fighting so many countries at the same time
not so crazy if you put their confrontation forces opposite eachother...then it is simply a matter of MORE than 3 to 1 especially when incorporating BETTER material (tanks vs no tanks,planes vs obsolete shit,more ships, more torpedos...etc..).
But...but...but...yamashita decided on using LESS troops...yeah, but he counted on even LESS UK troops in Malaya..
@@oddballsok is that how a Japanese battalion routed an allied division, multiple times?
And committing horrible war crimes
@@Anonymous-jk4ik yes
@@Anonymous-jk4ik japan gud cuz anime
So awesome to see this series. Love these breakdown campaign videos especially in areas not taught a lot about
The book Rising Sun Falling Skies covers this early campaign quite well with tons of interesting stories
Osprey publishing also has a wonderful Campaign guide by Mark Stille. With illustrations by Jim Laurier. If your in the mood for a quicker, if less in depth read.
Doesn't this not even popular historian trial lawyer blame this catastrophe on MacArthur? Never heard this garbage before now. First the Bonus Marchers and now this!
To think The Dutch was fallen from an Apex to the bottom floor in a single night both at home and in the colonies. That's why I always try to humble myself because history teaches me how fate of a nation or a person can drastically change in mere seconds.
First of all the dutch golden age had bin over for centuries after this point and secondly the Netherlands is still economically punching above it's weight to this day
@@Spongeward_Tentpants golden age is not that great too overseas actually it was the only trader that did conquest in Asia, malay archipelago is weak as fuck by nature, you can replace VOC with anything, but Indonesia would still be colonized by others.
@@whanua98 Its not that easy to conquer a volcanic jungle island let alone thousands and why would they want to initially they were just there to take over already existing trade routes not try to start conflicts with locals
I appreciate the effort on using the old-spelling of Indonesian places and the way you try to spell it. Nice added details, love it.
Soerabaja (at 5:30 & 10:00) is pronounced Soo-ra-ba-ya, the ‘j’ in ‘Soerabaja’ makes a ‘y’ sound in dutch pronunciation, instead of the ‘h’ sound as is common in Spanish pronunciation. ‘Soerabaja’ is an old dutch spelling of modern-day Surabaya, which in addition to being the provincial capital city of East Java, it is also home to the 2nd Fleet Command and a naval base of the Indonesian Navy. I can’t wait for more episodes on the South East Asian theatre, I really like your work. Thank you very much!
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Way to go brother👍🏼, it hurts my ears too😅
Yeah they need to fix that text-to-speech narrator lol
@@doujinflip The narrator is a real person.
He corrected it in the next vid! Good on him for listening to positive feedback!
I love this series, as an Indonesian myself, I really love the Dutch East Indies getting more attention. It is a subject of great intrigue, how the Japanese are able to accomplish so much, so soon. Great Video!
Edit: By the way, it the J is not pronounced as H, but Y.
we havent got a ground invasion of java yet aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Glad he did the Dutch East Indies too, really looking forward of this
awesome video man, thanks
Very well researched and produced video. Top work.
Wow, the Japanese juggernaut seems unstoppable. I hope they don't get involved in a disastrous naval battle sometime in the future involving several aircraft carriers and an island with alleged water supply problems or something
I hope they don't fail midway of their campaign.
@@EroPantherH to correct that good joke. I hope they dont fail Midway through their campaign
really the Japanese had already lost the war by this point but a disastrous naval battle probably wouldn't help them
Get outta here that would never happen!
@@michaelbelcher8805 oh yeah, that does sound better.
This was a great video, I always enjoy seeing events like these or battle be animated in this sort of way. I did notice a minor error though and that's that Boise was actually a light cruiser not a heavy cruiser, other than that though the video was really well put together and treat to watch.
Listening to this series makes me want to play HOI4 as Japan again, and again, and again, and again...
And for me to play as britan and finally hold the east Indies.
Imagine being able to play Hoi4
Playing as Japan for this gives me a headache, even if you already beat China it's so hard to keep the pressure up in India, in the Indies, and in the Pacific simultaneously
I think the Allies in Hoi4 send many more troops to this part of the world than there were irl
@@prrrromotiongiven1075
That actually was pretty much the case in real life too except that Japan was unable to conquer China and thus had a gigantic front which they needed to focus on, by 1942 Japan was entirely bogged down everywhere.
@@MorokLeviathan You Chinese (Jiang is a Chinese surname), tend to overstate your accomplishments in the war when your entire Air Force and motorized divisions were made in the USA.
Japan had conquered 90% of the Chinese population, because China's most populated cities sit on the Eastern coast so this naturally makes sense. China had two counteroffensives which both had failed even in 1945 when Japan was essentially reduced to rubble from repeated American bombings.
You guys only survived Japan because the Americans&British were siphoning Japanese manpower to other regions.
Makassar is my current city, before moved from Surabaya. Thank you for making this history up, Indonesia is huge and wide. But, Japan could had its under their empire just within days.
My brain and map memory just went bye bye when everything wasn’t colored in their Hoi4 colors
Hoi4 has taught me more geography in 6 months than public school did in over a decade.
Hoi4 has actually helped me in stereotyping colours for different nations.
@@JoPJR-ms8mg yeah too much clicking -.-'
I often attack and defeat the USSR, before going after the east indies, just so I can more easily move my troops to western Europe and naval invade the British isles directly (will the AI ever defend Dover?) That way I can capitulate them without island-hopping :D
Ah yes. Nothing beats sending 4 Million Chinese conscripts on Japanese bikes through Russian Siberia to help the Germans beat up the Brits :D
I've been a subscriber since your Force Z video, mainly because you are one of the few that provides detailed content on the lesser-known battles in the Pacific. The excellent quality of your videos helps too. Looking forward to ABDACOMs battles and Nagumo's foray into the Indian ocean.
Yeah I will be covering the Indian Ocean raid- though probably in 2022
@@historigraph Great video...can't wait for battle of java video next..
Really enjoying your videos! They are always very well researched and presented, and its clear that a lot of work goes into them. They are basically perfect right now.
As a Dutchman I always get frustrated when people just skip over this place. Glad someone finally explained it.
As an indonesian, same lol
It’s nice to see it. You should make a modern video about your war with the ocean.
As an indonesian i agree with you.... However, wanna some spice mate?
@@KaihanDTuna SPICE? SPRING IN DE BOTEN MATEN! DE SPECERIJEN WACHTEN OP ONS!
it was the time when we liberated from 340 years oppression.
Axis in WW2
German : blitzkrieg in europe, occupying some nation within months
Japan : blitzkrieg in asia, occupying several region within months
Italia : Hold my pizza and pasta 🤌🏽
mamamia
Dutch : Ah kut dubbelblitzkrieg
Blitzkrieg in Africa- wait, that failed horribly
Considering japan was already over extended in China, the fact they were able to pull any of this off is crazy to me.
I’m really enjoying this series. Keep up the good work.
Soerabaja is the old Dutch spelling for Surabaya. It’s not supposed to be pronounced in a Spanish manner. I know, I was born there.
Soo-rha-bye-yah.
Great videos in this series. Not a lot of discussions focuses on Japanese advance in Indonesia. We learnt about it at school, but from the invaded nation’s point of view.
Thank you for the superb video. Never fail to amaze. The Allied ships faced fuel shortage at this stage. Fuel storage was inland and after the bombing, there were hardly any port operations. Minutions were also running low and hence, some destroyers were withdrawn from actions.
Loving these documentaries! Fantastic work!
”When the Dutch was here. It was not good, not good, bad. But.. but when the Japanese came here. It was worse. ” I forgot who send this but my friend grandma or someone else like someone a who lived in the Dutch East Indies. I am sorry for forgetting. But it is a chilling tone
Hope you do Burma Campaign Next! Love this series. The South East Asian Threatre is often overlooked
Burma and Indian Campaign is not Pacific theatre, geographically they're in proximity of Indian Ocean and closer than the Pacific. So officialy I would call it Indian Ocean Theatre
i always think of that spiderman meme pointing at each other everytime japan and uk are in the same topic
Love your work man. Everything is very understandable
Awesome video! Love all your videos and work man!
can't wait for the next episode! love from Indonesia 💛
In Australia when had biggest submarine base at Fremantle Australia during ww2
Both Germany and Japan made insane conquests during the early war
@@brijekavervix7340 "good guys" lol
@@user-pn3im5sm7k would you rather have lived as a slave under Japanese rule?
@@brijekavervix7340 I wouldnt be a slave because I wasn't pillaging Asian countries and colonizing them. Non-combatants such as myself would find work for money, just like the volunteer comfort women did. You're talking about American and Western POWs. What were Westerners even doing in Asia in the first place?
You think the soviet union were the good guys? The british and french who literally conquered more than half the world? These nations slaughtered millions of innocents for their country. You cant be this naive.
Japan's economy was impressive until Allies started firebombing their factories and blowing up children, women, and elderly people.
@@brijekavervix7340 "good guys" lol
Big respect to the 3 Dutch submarines that fought on in 41 and sunk many many Japanese ships. Unsung heroes of the early pacific war.
Don't underestimate the Dutch submarine force. They kept on fighting throughout WW2.
There was this dutch submarine commander and he sunk 52 japanese ships in 52 days, he sunk more ships in that time than the brits and Americans combined, the Americans gave him the nickname "ship a day"
Heroes for you
Enemies for Japanese
Colonizer for Indonesian
@@141Travish I’m talking about the crew. Airmen will always respect and mourn other airmen, the same for submariners. These are dangerous and high fatality jobs. Politics has nothing to do with the respect I have for the Dutch crews.
@@manofcultura so why the Dutch never respect Indonesian heroes?
This is such fantastic content
Comments, likes and all that sort of thing is very good for the algorithm and like
us: imposes oil embargo japan: jolo
Java was not the capital of the Dutch East Indies.
That was Batavia, which was on the island of Java.
Java was and still is the most populated island of the Indonesian archipelago.
Most Indonesians live there.
I love the confidence you bring to pronouncing "Boise" wrong
And Makassar and Soerabaja and Denpassar and and...
At this point in the war, many must have felt Japan seemed unstoppable. Their plans were coming together beautifully.
As an Indonesian and fans of WW II, this is new to me. Provide us Indonesian with broader picture of our occupation. All we knew was the Japan occupation of our & neighbouring countries, our fight against Japan & Pearl Harbor attack, the Solomon campaign & the rest of Pacific theatre. Not so much talk about this. Thank you so much for your work. Subbed.
This is my homeland country wich now known as indonesia a hundred years of dutch occupation is far better than 3,5 years of japanese occupation
Even better it is to be independent without any foreign occupation.
@@harryblack7323 we are the first asian countey gain independent, and wihout help of course
@@danialzidaneamarty8493 Benar, Indonesia merdeka Agustus 1945 dan Filipina merdeka Juli 1946.
Woahh my request has been heard. Thank youu !!
I think I remember that guy on 9:12 is the same guy at the Slap Down of Surigao Strait (1944)
Thank you for this.
It's crazy how quickly the Axis expanded and then lost the war
Yes but this was just about the maximum plausible expansion for them. They could have in theory conquered more but they could have also failed a lot more. So what they got was pretty much the maximum they could get. More than this and it requires the Allies to make one too many mistakes for it to be plausible
@@florinivan6907 yes
Ever thought of doing a episode on one of the bagration offensives? Btw love the animations very transparent and easy to take in. Keep it up!
The Japanese prioritized the invasion of East Indies(mostly Borneo), Malaya and maybe Phillipines to capture their natural resources for the war effort
The main goal japan invade East indies are JAVA, not Borneo
The bigger drama the US Navy had was the Submarines and Torpedo bombers Torpedoes were duds. This early part of the war hundreds were fired for 5% results. There is a video on it that explains it better than I can. It caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of Mariners due to corrupt inept testing and ratification methods
The story of the Marblehead's escape is an epic tale in and of itself.
Great video once again! A time and theatre of war that is often overlooked in the history of the Second World War, at least in European history lessons
2:08 The japanese ō (also seen as ou) is pronounced as a drawn-out "oh" sound, not "oo". Other than that, absolutely fantastic work. I'm addicted to this series.
dutch and indonesian pronounciations are also wrong but can't expect someone to know all that.
Boise is pronounced "BOY-zee," the 'e' is long, not silent. If you're Idahoan, apparently it's pronounced "BOYSS-ee." The name most likely originates from the French word for "wooded," "boisée."
Been binging your channel all day. Saw all the people correcting your pronunciation in this video. Thought I might join in. Cheers!
Very nice video, would love to see the next one.
It'll be out on tuesday
Ah glorious memories of playing SSI's Pacific War and doing this very blitz in 3 weeks instead of the 3 months it actually took. The shipping shortage can be remedied by redeploying transports from the rest of the empire. This is where they were needed. Naturally after a 3 week blitz this opens up Australia, New Guinea and India like crazy. They're not ready in January '42. : - ) Quite sad to hear of the tragedy at Balikpapan. The Naka and some DD's are more than able to annihilate 4 ABDA DD's at night. Shame they were led astray.
Tragedy? Naaaaaah that was a good thing!
Small correction: at 3:38 you refer to USS Boise as a heavy cruiser. It was in fact a light cruiser of the Brooklyn-class.
And never assigned to the Asiatic Fleet. It was only in the area escorting a convoy when the war broke out.
Thailand was the Japanese ally. Major factor for lightning attack on Malaya & Indonesia. Thailand made agreement with the Japanese to share the spoils of war.
2:04 is it a mistake that he said that there were 4 light cursers, as there were only 3 illustrated?
A "light curser" is a guy who goes around saying heck and darn
Fantastic new video-loving the Southeast Asia series and I'm looking forward to the next episode. This is super nit-picky, but I wanted to bring up that the US flag/ensign did not have 50 stars until 1960; your diagram starting around 3:30 should only have a 48 star ensign.
I love this channel's videos
Indonesia got affected the most in SEA an yet this isn't in our curriculum
Nice video
05:28 'Soerabaja' is actually pronounced 'Surabaya', because Dutch.
I always find it funny how everyone talks vividly about Japans expansion as something horrible while ignoring they expanded on already occupied lands by the British, the Dutch and the Americans, that were exploiting natural resources for over 100 years and had no issue with "population pacification" when the locals got ideas of self rule (Filipine American wars)
I wonder where Japan produced oil domestically. Off shore rigs? Maybe there was an oil pump in the center of Tokyo?
there's some oil in Manchuria / China I think.
They had a small production capacity of synthetic oil, converted from coal.
Contrary to public belief, prior to The start of WW II, the US did not leave any way out for Japan except to strike back. Since the time of the discoveries of the 15th century and till current times, control of resources is still the core reason for empires to use force worldwide to accomplish that end!
One has to wonder if the British would have collapsed in North Africa like they did here if the Axis operated with naval superiority in the Mediterranean. Or maybe the distances and terrain involved didn't allow for a Blitzkrieg strategy.
Supply chains and logistics are greatly overlooked in WW2 save for the Eastern front in Europe
The Japanese had the 'Bicycle Blitzkrieg'. Due to dense forest and narrow roads, the open Nazi blitzkrieg was not adopted. The 3 divisions of the 25th Japanese Army each, was equipped with 500 lorries and 6000 bicycles. They had 200 tanks (Type 97 and 95). The Allied had none in Malaya.
What did Portugal do after Japan just stole a colony from them?
Sold more slaves.
Looting the colonies and fleed
5:29 Soorabaha lmao.
I found that 'it must be Spanish' pronounciation funny too! What's hard about Su-ra-ba-ya?
Great video. Just FYI. USS Boise is pronounced “boi-zee.”
Does anyone know if there is a video on the differing design philosophy of the different countries navies of world War 2, 3:16 he mentions the difference design philosophies and that could be really interesting. @historigraph
It still astonishes me that the Japanese were able to establish control over thee entire Singapore, Malay, Indonesian archipelago as quickly as they did. It must have been a tremendous shock to the British.(and Dutch).
@CKS1949 I see, thanks for the good primer.
@CKS1949 so, why did the Dutch lose to the poorly equipped and untrained Indonesian army after WW2 ?
@@judas3952in conventional they were winning, but goals of ANY asymmetric warfare is to win by attrition and political, and that where they won
Another great video!!
Just so you know the American cruiser named "Boise" is pronounced "Boy-z" . Its the capitol of Idaho
Btw Soerabaja pronounced as Surabaya with y in it
I never knew that! MacArthur was subordinate to a Dutch general (6:32).
I can still hear his ego shrieking 70 years later.
Yeah it was a relationship that only existed on paper - in practice he still operated almost entirely within the US chain of command.
@@historigraph Yeah, but Dougie being Dougie I can still see him flipping tables over this imagined slight.
@@historigraph And thanks for the reply!
"The sun never set in British empire"
Hinomaru: "hold my sake"
Japan's conquest of Southeast Asia was incredibly fast
Love this channel. The USS ship Boise (also the name of the capital of Idaho) is pronounced "Boy see". Just FYI.
Correct. Also he missed the city of Soerabaja - which is pronounced how it's currently spelled Surabaya.
Please do a bano raid video!!!
Great stuff!
I want to know how he makes these amazing animations
A lot of time
@@historigraph Do you mind telling me what software you use?
@@PeanutImperium adobe
@@historigraph Abobe Animate?
Ja in Indonesian/dutch is pronounced exactly as the German ja(yes) so Surabaya/soerabaja is not pronounced like a Spanish word, but more Germanic.
As an Indonesian, this part of the history is often if not always overlooked by schools.. school books just completely skip this part and went to Japanese "liberate" Indonesia from Dutch.. and all the committee to "support" the pro-independence movement..
Of course it is skipped when indonesian republicans collaborated with the japanese causing some 6 million people to die during the occupation.
@@maozedong44 True
@@maozedong44 What?everyone learn that life under japan occupation was brutal and we even learn the romusha which force labor during japan occupation ,the reason why you never see us indonesian talking about it because we pretty chill and already move on,heck we even making fun of romusha by saying it was the biggest weebs event in indonesia History
@@fadhil2831 no dude, if you actually read your school book it says Soekarno allows Romusha thinking that it is "the price to pay" for independence..
@@bomba7197 yeah everyone learn that soekarno work with japan
Good video. Two questions.
1. TheAmerican author of the famous book, The Two Ocean War stated that if the Allied had concentrated on Java instead of pouring all resources into Singapore a line could have been held.
What is your opinion on the subject?
2. Watching some Australian videos, the Australian's had the opinion that the Allied had the objective of defending India and abandoning Australia. Churchhill wanted the 7th Australia infantry division routed to Burma. If that had happened the fight over the mountains would be lost and the battle of Milne Bay would be lost as well. If Darwin and Perth were attacked after the Java Sea, the plan was to abandon the facilities. What are your thoughts on the subject?
Thanks
@2:34 that's not read as Jolo with J but Holo.
I got a feel that Burma campaign would be the next after this series, excited for that.