Are Pringles Potato Chips? (and Other Million Dollar Legal Cases)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- Are Pringles potato chips? Does Santa wear festive items? Is a tomato a fruit or vegetable? These questions sound like fun brainteasers, but the answers to each of these questions was worth millions of dollars. This video dives into a part of the law to find out.
This channel takes a deep dive into topics small and large to explain the world around us.
I was in a seaside village in Vietnam and local showed us their boats - which were giant woven half spheres. He said they are this shape because the government traditionally had a high tax on boats, so people started making them rounder and deeper so they could claim them as baskets instead, which were taxed at a much lower rate!
Yeah, and we name it basket too!!! :))
The junk food industry used the 'tomato is a vegetable' argument so they could push pizza in school lunches, claiming it met the criteria as one vegetable a day. I'm not kidding.
Ronald Reagan declared ketchup is a "tomato' so it's a food
Same with fries, since fries are made from potatoes which are actually vegetables.
Honestly though - nothing wrong with either fries or pizza. Just don't over-eat, and kids are generally way more active than adults so they burn it all through anyway - even if they just cycle to and from school and don't do any running or playing other than that.
@Nathan Taffijn That is very true - I guess it would be different if junk food is the only thing the person would be consuming. I admit I'm speculating a little bit here and assuming that people would be eating junk food only when they are out of the house XD
alot of students would idolize the junk food industry for that
SAD
A really good example of a company changing their product to avoid import taxes is Ford who make a passenger van overseas, import it into the US and then strip out the seats and turn it into a cargo van. Cargo vans have higher import taxes than passenger vans.
Great example
Ah yes, the infamous 'chicken tax'. Mercedes did (or do) it too, by making complete cars, disassembling them, shipping the parts to a small kit assembly factory where the parts would be reassembled and roll out as 'local' cars.
Why would they want to pay higher taxes..?
@@adoreyou7449 The taxes on cargo vans are higher than on passenger vans so by importing the vehicle as a passenger van and then converting it to a cargo van inside the US they don't have to pay that higher tax.
@@JulianOShea Also the reason the Subaru Brat came with two plastic jump seats in the bed (Only USA & Canada models).
Ford is currently been investigated for tax avoidance for removing seats from imported vans, they face over a billion dollars in penalties if found guilty.
I love the topics you cover. They fall into "good to know" category in my opinion. Well done.
You're going nuts on the algorithm! Great work though, love your content and well deserved subs
Thanks, mate. It’s cool to see the videos get out there. :)
@@JulianOShea Makes me miss Melbourne though. Haven't lived there for 10 years now
@@rowanrobinson I came back after living abroad. Biggest mistake. Lockdown after lockdown after lockdown. Should have stayed in South Korea SMH.
Yeah and got the rona. Good idea.
@@rowanrobinson yea cos lockdowns save people from rona 😂
I’m going to end up a trivia genius watching all your videos. Keep em coming.
Thanks!
lmao out the window goes 50 years of inclusivity and antidiscrimination messaging which was the premise for X-men as soon as the tax man gets involved
All of the X-Men in movies and comics since their creation: "We're all humans just like you!"
Toy companies: "Of course they're not humans don't be ridiculous"
These damn taxes are turning our heroes into non human beings. Wake up people, big daddy is to lying to all of us.
I just realised I have been binge-watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Love it! - Thanks mate.
What on earth!! Please, dive deeper on this. This is fascinating!!
I only discovered your channel the other day, and now I have subscribed! Great work.
Thanks, mate
Me two I only found your channel a few days ago
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It's 'me too' with a period at the end.
I was wondering why in Lithuania Pringles naming became a mess. It's used to be just "potato chips", but now I don't think you can find them named like that, some shops started calling them just "chips", others "snack", and recently it's common to see them being named "original Pringles snack", I was confused why they change the name from something obvious to the consumer into this weird terminology, but I guess it's for the reason mentioned in the video.
*runs to pantry to check what the other 60% of pringles is! 😛
@@MartintheTinman you take that back. It's FLAVOURED sawdust!
This channel randomly popped up on my suggestions.. And I'm starting to really like this...
Nice work bro!
Great video, one factual error though, the ad you reference at 2:20 states Wolverines flashes claws of steel where in fact these are made of adamantium.
And you are adamant about that.
Another good example from the UK is Jaffa Cakes. A cake attracts no VAT but a chocolate covered biscuits do. Great video I enjoyed watching!
Great work! These are really fun to watch.
Your videos are great! So fascinating. Thank you for letting me look at the world around me with a little more curiosity
Glad you like them!
Very informative, I am now more enlightened on things I did not know I wanted to be enlightened about, thank you
That was fascinating, thank you! More Tariff Engineering please 🙋♂️
Appreciate reach work Julian. Good stuff mare.
Thanks for looking at all those tariff documents, Julian! That was really interesting.
Hardly surprising the court system is so over loaded given so trivial matters such as deciding if a tomato was a vegetable or fruit.
Not that trivial if it makes people pay thousands of pounds worth of taxes.
It could have been avoided by making the taxes make more sense. Tariff engineering should only occur when it actually benefits society, e.g. A food becomes healthier, or a product's production creates less carbon dioxide or whatever.
A very good Australian presenter. Excellent.
This was a fun topic that few people have probably heard of.
This is really awesome, love your channel Julian! Praise the algorithm!
Thanks Collis!
I'm a bit late to the party - just found this chanel! It's excellent - thank you for your hard work!
It's because of videos like this I'll one day win a game of Trivial Pursuit.
Fascinating randomness! Been binging your videos! Great videos!
Glad you like them!
This is fantastic video. Keep up the good work mate.
Underrated youtube channel
Another great video. Thankyou. 😊
my favorite of these questions is is the shoulder part of the arm or the torso
great vids, really enjoying them! keep it up!
Have you listened to the podcast 99% invisible by any chance? You're in a similar vein to them and I'm loving it!
Thanks for doing the research, I enjoyed the video. Your content is so interesting.
Subbed! Keep em coming
Thanks! Will do!
every time i watch a new vid, your sub count goes up bu 100! awesome man!
You much be my good luck charm … keep watching!
@@JulianOShea i watched 4 more now ya at 11.4k haha good luck man love ya vids, great to watch these while dealing with the lock down in melb :)
The Jaffa cake case is very well known in the UK.
Have noticed a large number of comments saying they only just found your channel due to the algorithm, and that now includes myself. I'm curious though if you recently changed your titles and/or thumbnails prompted by Veritasium's recent video about clickbait. (I'm not complaining, just curious about the timing. 😃)
Takes interesting brain to create such interesting video :) ...love the debates / problems, and I learn something new :) .. Thank You
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your videos are amazing man
You make the most ridiculous topics for your videos and I love it. This is exactly what I have to know, right now.
This channel is AWESOME I can’t believe I just found it
Superb Video
This was really interesting. I enjoy your videos a lot.
Liked subscribed and comment for the algorithms lol XD
Great content Julian!!
Cheers, Henry!
I keep forgetting to comment for the algorithm. Thx for the reminder.
This was so interesting! thankyou!
Super interesting!
Tomato is clearly a fruit
Thanks, very interesting
Great info 👍
Good and interesting content. Cheers
I'm so glad this came up in my reccomend
absolutely loving these videos and learning more
especially learning russell crowe was an american president
I can't decide if high courts consider cases like these to be a waste of their time, or a welcome change from the usual serious fare
I always imagine Pringle's factories as rooms full of people chewing real potato chips then regurgitating the part digested chip into Pringle shaped moulds..then through the dehydrator and into the tube..needless to say, I don't eat them..
The fuzzy bottoms of Converse are illegal in some US states for (as far as I can tell) very valid reasons, so it's really unfortunate
In the UK, there was another famous food case. HMRC tried to argue that jaffa cakes were chocolate biscuits (and therefore subject to VAT) while McVities argued they were cakes, so not subject to the tax. The court examined everything from the recipe, to whether they went soft over time (biscuits) or hard over time (cakes), to the size and packaging.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the court ruled that jaffa cakes are...
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love the vid bro!
Appreciate it!
5:54 That's not a murmur! That's Zucker!
The camera shown in the picture is a Sony a6x00 series camera.
Interestingly enough, the newer versions of these (the a6100, 6400 & 6600) all no longer have a 30 minute recording limit, where previously the a6000, 6300 & 6500 did.
Great videos
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Fruit is botanical term and discusses a very specyfic part of plant that grows as a way of seed dispersal, mostly by animals consuming it.
So avocados, tomatos, cucumbers, pumpkin, watermelon, coconut, blackberry are all fruits. I think even stuff like peapods qualify.
On the other hand stuff like strawberries, rhubarb, carrots are not fruits.
Vegetable is a culinary term. It describe any plant part that is used for cooking and eating mostly in form of savoury food, so tomatoes, carrots, cucumbers, avocados, pumpkin, parsnip, potato are all veggetables.
And stuff like rhubarb, strawberry, blackberry, watermelon are not vegetables.
Asking if tomato is a fruit or vegetable is asking if a dog is four legged or an animal?
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amazing video
All of this legal stuff seems to me to be that there is not as much real work so people are making busy work.
A lot of laws just to make laws and keep people in pointless work.
More like engineering stuff to scam more money into rich peeps pockets...someone is making money on it.
Many positions and many work 'tasks' are that. Not actually achieving anything for the organisation or for the country.
I disagree, or at least partly. A lot of laws like this come from a basic premise of trying to do the right thing for everyone.
For example, GST (aka VAT). In Australia, GST is a sales tax across the board. Let's make it a flat rate for everything. Except, that will penalise the poor. So should we raise the minimum wage & welfare benefits to compensate for it? Oh hell no! That's political suicide. Let's change that to Essentials are GST exempt.
So what are essentials. Bread is an essential. GST exemption granted. So what is bread?
To understand the complexity of this question, see Subway vs Ireland.
Yes. It's why there are so many rules to break and lawyers to make sure they stay broken.
I was actually correct about Santa! Didn't expect I would be though... I thought they'd have lumped it all into one category while ignoring the differences between each of the pieces.
Simply put, my views are this:
- a beard and a wig are not clothing. They don't fulfil any traditional or functional role associated with the "job" of being santa. Therefore they're festive, and not a uniform.
- a santa hat is clothing, but doesn't fulfil a traditional or functional role. Santa's traditional "hat" is a mitre, so if it had been a mitre, I'd have said it's a uniform, but since it's not, it's festive since it's no longer based on its traditional form.
- Santa's boots and belt are as characteristic of the American interpretation of the tradition as the hat, but similarly do not hold any functional or traditional role.
- Santa's sack fulfils a functional role of his "job", so it's a uniform piece, rather than a festive piece.
- Santa's gloves, jacket and leggings are iterations on traditional clerical garb that, while they look much different now than they used to, are a major traditional identifying piece of the character and thus of his job. Therefore they're uniform pieces, not festive. Additionally, it's based on clerical garb, and dressing like a bishop does not exactly specifically scream "christmas", which takes points away from interpreting it as festive.
Tarrific video.
very interesting
I love when companiess spend millions so they can save millions
I don’t know how to feel haha. For companies it’s a no-brainer to try to argue these things in court
Brilliant
Love the Converse example. Post Locky D 6.0 will head out and check them out. My favourite VAT example from the UK is the humble but tasty Jaffa Cake (not sure I’ve seen them here in Aus) which to the average eye and not so average tummy is a biscuit but to McVities and the courts is a cake; much to the chagrin of Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs.
I think we should just require that products which fit into multiple categories automatically belong to whichever category has the highest tax rate. Or if can't be fit into any existing category, the tax rate defaults to the highest of any existing category.
If TVs are taxed at 25% and DVRs at 15%, then a TV with DVR functionality via an attached USB drive gets the 25% rate. If you want to pay the 15% rate, then you make a plain old DVR and leave out the TV functionality.
Although all that cotton on the uniform would be a fire hazard, not too safe for going down chimneys....
It's Pringle's crisps. Chips is what you have with fish. You buy it from the Fish & Chips shop.
In Australia we call both chips. It's easy enough to know which one someone is talking about by context. For instance if someone says "a packet of chips" it's what they call crisps in the uk. Often we will say "hot chips" if we are talking about the fish and chip variety.
@@launchpadmcquack8655 You call them chips solely because that's what the Americans call it, just like french fries. It's also because blokes are now called guys.
By we, you mean those who have to mimic the Americans.
@@kenchristie9214 damn ken you saltier than the packet of chips i just ate. What's got you upset mate do you wanna talk it out?
Ford was putting flimsy seats into cargo vans to import them into the usa as passenger vans, then taking the seats out before selling them to customers.
Great example of this.
You made me giggle when you mentioned portugal
One of my favourite examples of tariff engineering has to be the Subaru BRAT: by putting 2 seats in the bed, it was legally a passenger car rather than a pickup truck, and thus not subject to the US’s “Chicken Tax” (which, despite the name, has very little to do with chicken)
Also the time Jaffa Cakes made a giant Jaffa cake to prove that they should be considered a cake and not a biscuit because “cakes go hard, biscuits go soft”. They won
Excellent examples.
Figurines sold cheap at your local chemist are a good example. They have salt & pepper holes to reduce the tax placed on business than they would if they were figurines.
somebody acknowledge that crisp pringles lid pop god damn
I'd love to go get some but like most Australians I'm on house arrest
Good video
Thanks!
pringles are half the size they used to be and half a pack
I was hoping the "festive attire" vs "work uniform" santa suit would get into union contracts
aah so glad I came across this video in my feed, makes me smile. and also #smh lol
According to the Wikipedia, the tomato is an edible berry, and classified as a fruit. Yet the court ruled it was a vegetable. Did they get it wrong? Ugh! Controversial food item indeed!
Depending upon factors such as animal/vegetable/mineral, botanical terms or culinary applications, it’s both!
In animal/vegetable/mineral terms - it doesn’t move of its own free will, so it’s not an animal, it’s not water or rock, so it’s not mineral - tomato is vegetable - that theory could apply to oranges and apples!
Botanically speaking, it grows on a tree, so it’s a fruit - conversely, rhubarb grows in the ground, so it’s a vegetable - but never in a million years would I put tomatoes in a fruit salad or a fruit pie - in a pie, yes - but with cheese or meat! That settles the culinary argument as well - even though, botanically speaking, it’s a fruit, the other arguments say it’s a vegetable - whereas rhubarb is a vegetable - but it is usually done in a crumble with custard and, before you serve it up to me, you must drown it in sugar!
@@arthurvasey wait how do tomatoes grow in a tree?
@@madbruv Well - a tomato plant - a sort of tree - a bush, maybe! Looks similar to an apple!
finally the algorithm works
Wow, I guessed right for the santa suit!!!! I guessed, before I knew you were talking about tarriffs, that it was both. And I was Right!!!
Speaking of criminal - it's absolutely criminal contents like this have only had 40k views to date. Your content is absolutely on par with some of the educational youtube channels with millions of views. Keep it up and hopefully your channel will continue to build on the viewership it deserves.
Getting sick of this same comment over and over again on every video.
Not every single channel which makes good videos needs millions of subscribers and views. Julian is doing better than 99% of TH-camrs and we are all here watching his videos and enjoying them.
The channel is naturally and healthily growing.
Im pretty sure the limit of camera recording time was only in some countries including here in Australia. Fortunately my old Panasonic GH4 and my GH5 don't do it. The GH4 broke recordings into 4gb files but that would have been the formatting it used and it could keep recording for as long as the SD card had space.
this actually points to how quickly products evolve and how poor legislative systems are, since today there are much more kinds of products that were around even just 20 years ago and this is what causes ambiguity.
Pringles: no.
A slipper is a type of shoe
I’d actually want to taste carrot jam.
If they are only 40 odd percent 'potato', then what is the remaining 60%?
The sound effects are much too loud compared to your voice (headphones), but great topics.
If Pringles is only 42% potatoes, what are the other 58%? Time to stop eating Pringles.
Please do continue to waste your time with research, this video was cery informative and would love to learn more similar facts.
Very interesting video. Now I know that a tomato in the US is a vegetable but it's a fruit in Europe. Just wondering, when a tomato is exported between countries, which country's definition rules? The sender or the receiver?
All fruit starts as a flower so a tomato is a fruit whichever way you slice it
A tomato is a fruit... likewise is an avocado... and a strawberry is actually a nut... makes sense (or not) ...(pun intended) :)
And I would say that Pringles is not really a potato chip (as it is not a "chip" from a potato)... it is more like a potato-mash-paste-chip.
With regards to Santa... I don't care how his clothes get categorised, as long as he wears something... especially being around children and that.
The 29:59 record limit might be going away as the EU who imposed this tarif now gas a free trade agreement with Japan. But manufactures are slow ...