@@justinmadrid8712 it will still be ass because the actual problem is that it's very unlikely the choices will line up with what you need, on the turn you need it. It's the same problem with all cards of this style.
@@yungkenwud6397depends on how slow your deck is. If you can wait long enough to “chose” the effect then it can be ok just to have the variety of options. But I think overall you’re still better off running something you would most likely always want instead
@@THEpicND statistically it will still be ass even if you’re playing a very slow deck. It’s the same as Chameleos, shifter zerus, molten weapon, this one having two options makes it *slightly* less dog shit than those, but not enough to be playable.
Can't wait to play KJ in Druid alongside Harth Stonebrew and Rheastraza just to finally realize the "RANDOM BULLSHIT GO" strategy Druid was always meant to play.
@@zachorletzkiy he lost to it first game of the pre release event stream BC they rolled the sand castle legendary elemental on the first spore, so had like 5 of them over the game, and then high rolled a couple other good cards too LMFAO
Being good in theory crafting does not equal good. Theory crafting's power level is always lower than normal standard's, since people are experimenting with decks that aren't optimal. I remember the Sandwitch weapon being busted in last expansion's theorycrafting, but when the expansion actually came out, the card turned out to be ass.
Roffle's on stream reactions were pretty funny. I admittedly popped into Bunny and Sway's streams to see what their reaction to the ridiculousness was and it looked like this was NOT fun to play against to say the least
I understand that, but against jaeden you have way more counter play os outs for surviving one more or two turns and you still have to keep playing the demons while the wheel is a one time thing. I think jae its not nearly powerfull as wheel
@@youngdagger1236I'd say Jae is better than Wheel. Both of them are a one card win condition, but Wheel is a 8 mana do nothing + start taking Fatigue, while Jae is a 7 mana 7/7 body.
Speaking of wheel of death, how does it interact with kil'jaeden? Do you have infinte demons no matter what order or must it be wheel first,then kil'jaeden for infinite?
37:15 wasn't that missed lethal for Roffle? If he activated the starship again he'd be able to attack with it twice to give buffs to his little dudes, plus his Zilliax would be cheaper and thus playable.
@@RWxAshley every class is getting weak cards to be fair. The issue is the slower other decks are the more apparent druids broken ramp mechanics or mana cheating becomes. Druid limits card design & it annoys the hell out of me. Most of druids spells this expansion are also very competitive
@@ak11yanora it'll perform semi-decent in ramping druids but it's SUCH a dead draw with it not immediately getting abilities... it just simply won't be best in slot, not even over certain tech cards
I mean out of the entire demon pool you got INSANE cards early from the Portal... but considering KJ was *literally* the last card in your deck i think the RNG somewhat balances out. LOL.
The thing is, after you play Quasar, you literally cannot do anything else that turn, since you won't have any cards in hand. So, during the turn it's plaayed, it's literally 6 mana do nothing. It only does something the turn after, and even then you just get one card. And sure, that one card could be something that draws more, but you could just as well draw a useless card that does nothing with an empty hand. And yeah, Knockknack Shack does exist, but you *need* to have that in play before you play Quasar, and I think it's just too specific of a situation to be viable. So, no, I don't think it's going to be good.
@@eamk887 Even Zeddy was doing disgusting things with it, just have kick knack on the board and quick pick equipped when you play it, if you have more draw in your deck it snowballs like old wild Radiant/Clergy it's ridiculous and you're insane if you don't think it will break the game in the hands of someone who can actually play high APM rogue like Dane. It wasn't even hard to set up and it makes half the strongest rogue cards into sonya cards without any sandbox or any other setup.
I wonder how this works with deck-modifying effects, like Barnabus, Dew Process, Azari the Devourer, or King Toggwaggle. If the beneficial effects work, I'd bet a Wild deck that draws a bunch of zero cost demons every turn could work.
Dew doesn't mod your deck...? Dew should work fine but anything that specifically targets your "deck" shouldn't work as you no longer have a deck, the portal just _replaces_ your deck. Like Fanottem in theory should just cost 0 as soon as you play KJ and forever from that point. If you play Symphony all the cards you don't pick will just vanish. I would assume togwaggle/tony will just give them an empty deck in return, because that's what your deck is. Logically they should not get the portal, but whether or not you keep the portal and whether or not their deck is deleted when you receive it is a good question though. It's possible you continue to draw demons but their deck is just in some kind of "stasis" while you have it.
Honestly I would say the strongest card in this deck is the taunt minion that gets reduced for each enemy minion with life steal. Being able to play two in one turn for 0 mana makes agro decks less viable and buys you that one extra turn. Rarran came close to dying in so many games 😂
Killjaeden looks ok on like super late game, but this situation os Very rare these days hahah Also I dont think the new druid stuff will be better than the dragons. But Nice video!
0:56 Can't believe he said the other streamer is "dog" 🤨. I'll have you know, he is a very talented player and has won many tournaments 🤓☝️ _i am memeing btw, we love dogdog in this household_
@@mprejects8091The thing is, it wouldn't even be strong, since the chances of getting multiple copies of the "Destroy one of your mana crystals" effect are high, so the card would just be literally unplayable.
I'ma playing wheel warlock. Zilliax, Sargeras, Star Vulpera, Elementium Geode, loken and 15/15 man Fanottem, Lord of the Opera. Classic turn 6 two 15/15 dudes and a man 3/3 he's there. 1x domino effect 1x furnace fuel 2x guldans gift and 1x wingwelding
@@eamk887 ''I ALREADY BROKE THE NEW EXPANSION WITH KIL'JAEDEN'' where the fuck is theorycrafting event mentioned? My point is, title doesnt say shit, description doesnt say shit, and intro doesnt say shit either, there's no way you can't understand where the question can come from
It’s an event called theory crafting where select content creators get access to the set early to play this event. They have some rules and stuff like decks requiring at least 10 new cards and I think not being allowed to concede too.
Bro this whole time i thought the turtle gained more and more choose one effects every turn. He's so ass
What if you combo with that ‘choose both’ card
@@justinmadrid8712The fact that you can get the "Destroy one of your mana crystals" effect completely ruins that plan.
@@justinmadrid8712 it will still be ass because the actual problem is that it's very unlikely the choices will line up with what you need, on the turn you need it. It's the same problem with all cards of this style.
@@yungkenwud6397depends on how slow your deck is. If you can wait long enough to “chose” the effect then it can be ok just to have the variety of options. But I think overall you’re still better off running something you would most likely always want instead
@@THEpicND statistically it will still be ass even if you’re playing a very slow deck. It’s the same as Chameleos, shifter zerus, molten weapon, this one having two options makes it *slightly* less dog shit than those, but not enough to be playable.
what did jaiden do wrong? why is rarran trying to kill him?
seeing this made me want to say a 3 letter word holy
Nig? @@themechanicus9698
He knew that mirrors can't be real if our eyes aren't real.
well
He is lliterally at the bottom of the deck.
Thats why
Because she won in mr beast vid, hes just jelaous
35:18 Mr. President a second Magtheridon has hit the board
Mein Fuhrer....
Can't wait to play KJ in Druid alongside Harth Stonebrew and Rheastraza just to finally realize the "RANDOM BULLSHIT GO" strategy Druid was always meant to play.
Nice , I do wonder what rarran thinks of the Warrior Spore card though , he sure wouldnt think its C tier right ?
did it end up looking better or worse than expected?
@@zachorletzkiy he lost to it first game of the pre release event stream BC they rolled the sand castle legendary elemental on the first spore, so had like 5 of them over the game, and then high rolled a couple other good cards too LMFAO
He had some pretty awful games with it unfortunately.
Still bad lol
Being good in theory crafting does not equal good. Theory crafting's power level is always lower than normal standard's, since people are experimenting with decks that aren't optimal.
I remember the Sandwitch weapon being busted in last expansion's theorycrafting, but when the expansion actually came out, the card turned out to be ass.
The ultimate justice, killing demon hunter with double magtheridon
Roffle's on stream reactions were pretty funny. I admittedly popped into Bunny and Sway's streams to see what their reaction to the ridiculousness was and it looked like this was NOT fun to play against to say the least
37:20 missplay, if he pay for the ship and then zilax, it cost 2 and he has more than enough for lethal.
Holy crap that game against BunnyHoppor was INSANELY fun to watch, i cant get over the back and forth there, how effing crazy
Kiljaeden is basically just neutral wheel of death which was an equally underrated card
I understand that, but against jaeden you have way more counter play os outs for surviving one more or two turns and you still have to keep playing the demons while the wheel is a one time thing. I think jae its not nearly powerfull as wheel
@@youngdagger1236I'd say Jae is better than Wheel. Both of them are a one card win condition, but Wheel is a 8 mana do nothing + start taking Fatigue, while Jae is a 7 mana 7/7 body.
Speaking of wheel of death, how does it interact with kil'jaeden? Do you have infinte demons no matter what order or must it be wheel first,then kil'jaeden for infinite?
37:15 wasn't that missed lethal for Roffle? If he activated the starship again he'd be able to attack with it twice to give buffs to his little dudes, plus his Zilliax would be cheaper and thus playable.
Ah yes, broken druid doing broken ramp things. Super 'new and refreshing', looking forward to this expansion for sure.
boohoo
Yeah. Druid getting "weak" cards this expansion as if they don't already have the best tools to break the game.
@@RWxAshley every class is getting weak cards to be fair. The issue is the slower other decks are the more apparent druids broken ramp mechanics or mana cheating becomes. Druid limits card design & it annoys the hell out of me. Most of druids spells this expansion are also very competitive
Kil'jaeden the gigachad of the expansion.
Druid and "summoning larger and larger men". Day9 is a prophet.
Wow, Eluu is even worse than I thought. Guess I'll be dusting that one if I open it.
That'll be one of like three legendaries i get with all of my saved gold
id suggest keeping it, blizz may buff it, if it will perform the worsr (which will most likely happen)
@@ak11yanora it'll perform semi-decent in ramping druids but it's SUCH a dead draw with it not immediately getting abilities... it just simply won't be best in slot, not even over certain tech cards
@@Jukantos yeah that, and also its a standard only card for sure
Mr. President a fourth expanse has hit the board
“Killjaden is a C tier card”
It could still be, this is just theorycrafting.
Doesn't matter anything thats neutral can be abused and then we say hello to patch notes 👋✍️
have 2 way to draw kill`jaden not play it complain for not have it - classic Rarran
This video gave me visions of wild mill druids running Kil'jaeden. Good god
Do you guys think rarran can do a backflip?
if he tries enough then probably yes
No
If your mom asks
YES
Zhotan in the first game playing dh is so iconic, TALADO
I mean out of the entire demon pool you got INSANE cards early from the Portal... but considering KJ was *literally* the last card in your deck i think the RNG somewhat balances out. LOL.
What are your thoughts on Quasar Rogue? Seems like a ridiculous deck with Knick Knack Shack and all the draw options
unplayable
The thing is, after you play Quasar, you literally cannot do anything else that turn, since you won't have any cards in hand. So, during the turn it's plaayed, it's literally 6 mana do nothing. It only does something the turn after, and even then you just get one card. And sure, that one card could be something that draws more, but you could just as well draw a useless card that does nothing with an empty hand.
And yeah, Knockknack Shack does exist, but you *need* to have that in play before you play Quasar, and I think it's just too specific of a situation to be viable.
So, no, I don't think it's going to be good.
You can have locations on board to activate and draw cards@@eamk887
@@eamk887 Even Zeddy was doing disgusting things with it, just have kick knack on the board and quick pick equipped when you play it, if you have more draw in your deck it snowballs like old wild Radiant/Clergy it's ridiculous and you're insane if you don't think it will break the game in the hands of someone who can actually play high APM rogue like Dane. It wasn't even hard to set up and it makes half the strongest rogue cards into sonya cards without any sandbox or any other setup.
KJ buffing himself with the "litterally me" buff, amazing
I wonder how this works with deck-modifying effects, like Barnabus, Dew Process, Azari the Devourer, or King Toggwaggle. If the beneficial effects work, I'd bet a Wild deck that draws a bunch of zero cost demons every turn could work.
Dew process is an awesome idea for this kinda deck since you'll lack draw later in the game.
Dew doesn't mod your deck...? Dew should work fine but anything that specifically targets your "deck" shouldn't work as you no longer have a deck, the portal just _replaces_ your deck. Like Fanottem in theory should just cost 0 as soon as you play KJ and forever from that point. If you play Symphony all the cards you don't pick will just vanish. I would assume togwaggle/tony will just give them an empty deck in return, because that's what your deck is. Logically they should not get the portal, but whether or not you keep the portal and whether or not their deck is deleted when you receive it is a good question though. It's possible you continue to draw demons but their deck is just in some kind of "stasis" while you have it.
Holy shit is Rarran just outright listening to the whole Hacknet soundtrack? Mega based.
rarran putting kil'jaeden into C tier will haunt him forever
bunnyhoppor game was the comeback of the century 🤩
Honestly I would say the strongest card in this deck is the taunt minion that gets reduced for each enemy minion with life steal. Being able to play two in one turn for 0 mana makes agro decks less viable and buys you that one extra turn. Rarran came close to dying in so many games 😂
Seeing Malfurion help the burning legion's biggest invasion is so weird.
Watched this live, glad to rewatch it.
Does playing new kil jaiden reset the stats?
Furi ost my beloved. Immaculate taste in music
Killjaeden looks ok on like super late game, but this situation os Very rare these days hahah Also I dont think the new druid stuff will be better than the dragons. But Nice video!
Is this played on a test server or is the expan live?
That game against priest was absolutely nutty
Wow, had Roffle not missed that one point of damage he would've won the game 😔
How are some people already getting access to the new cards?
This video actually made me want to play hearthstone again
0:56 Can't believe he said the other streamer is "dog" 🤨. I'll have you know, he is a very talented player and has won many tournaments 🤓☝️
_i am memeing btw, we love dogdog in this household_
I want to remind all of you that turtle carried that mirror kj game!
Truly an S-tier card, no doubt
51:03 you gave him an out for Magmerodon
That 1st match.
Im not sure that its Kil'jaeden op or the fact the Druid has 15 mana is
the furi soundtrack is so hype
Damn, that game against Bunny was sick
So what you’re telling me is Druid is broken? Not even surprised
Surely the legendary is suppose to have both choose one combined, cause if not its beyond terrible
It’s one of those cards that feels like it had stronger text early on and it got nerfed.
I'm sure it was meant to accumulate the options but that was removed last minute because it was too bugged or strong
@@mprejects8091The thing is, it wouldn't even be strong, since the chances of getting multiple copies of the "Destroy one of your mana crystals" effect are high, so the card would just be literally unplayable.
@@eamk887 That’s one of a couple dozen choose one options, but yeah, still not great.
Furi OST goes hard in the back
Demon Hunter highrolls and still loses by an obnoxious margin but it's the problem not Druid
I like how people complain that druids legendary is bad. Like bruh you want Druid to be overpowered again???
DRUID IS BROKEN, NO WAY?!?!?
The fact that Kil'jaeden isn't a Demon Hunter card is atrocious. Why is he neutral
If I ever watch this video again, reminder to myself to watch 38:05
Bigger and bigger dudes. Killjaiden was made for druids
I'ma playing wheel warlock.
Zilliax, Sargeras, Star Vulpera, Elementium Geode, loken and 15/15 man Fanottem, Lord of the Opera.
Classic turn 6 two 15/15 dudes and a man 3/3 he's there.
1x domino effect 1x furnace fuel 2x guldans gift and 1x wingwelding
Wouldnt fanotem be 30 mana after kj
@@Tatercon I'm not playing that man. He's not my president.
How are people playing the expansion early? I know the tavern brawl is releasing but that’s next week how are people playing now?
@@kingfalcon776seward9 content creators got to access them early. Its a provate server basically
@@kingfalcon776seward9 be a youtuber
Love this Deck!!!
I don't like the violent undertone of Kil'Jaeden, couldn't they name him something positive like JearkOf'Jaeden
2:44 we need to nerf Uluu he’s too OP like Shifter Zerus
14:10 what’s up with the mustaches?
Is this early access?
How is he playing the new expansion? I wanna play it too ;-;
You can search in a portal? Crazy
Larger and larger man time once again druid here i come
Maybe talk about the streamer event in the intro instead of leaving us wondering how the fuck you got to play the new expansion
Theorycrafting has been a thing in Hearthstone for years, how is this the first time you're learning about it?
@@eamk887 ''I ALREADY BROKE THE NEW EXPANSION WITH KIL'JAEDEN'' where the fuck is theorycrafting event mentioned? My point is, title doesnt say shit, description doesnt say shit, and intro doesnt say shit either, there's no way you can't understand where the question can come from
FACE CAM IS BACK FACE CAM IS BACK FACE CAM IS BACK FACE CAM IS BACK
Im just here for rarran reading fucked up chat messages
That Druid deck might be worse than dragon Druid or Highlander warrior 🤦🏽♂️
I enjoy the Roffle appearance
WHY DID HE SAY ARCHIE MONDE AND NOT ARC-EE-MOND
wow. 2nd to last game.... max poggies. so sad to see druid is still S+ tier XD
nice to hear roffle (:
How can he play the new cards already in ranked?
It’s an event called theory crafting where select content creators get access to the set early to play this event. They have some rules and stuff like decks requiring at least 10 new cards and I think not being allowed to concede too.
@zachorletzkiy really? Then he broke all the rules, I guess))
i like turtles 🐢
I love watching the guy but I have to turn off the volume.
Btw turtle OP
Day 121 of asking Rarran to play Griftlands
Im out of Hearthstone until this card leaves Standard. See ya
Random (demon) bs go deck
Second