Other people think that because Stray Kids are from the Big 3 they have it easy, but no. Stray Kids especially 3RACHA pour their heart and soul into their music. They work so hard just like other Kpop groups and the fact that they're still so young and are already this involved in their craft is honestly so amazing. They're gonna reach the top one day I just know it...
I agree with you 100%. They work so hard, and they're gonna prove that they're not big because they're from JYP, but because of their passion and love for music and _even_ for us STAYs. :) They're not even that big imo tbh, and they seem to be slept on sadly, but they surely have a long way to go! You know the saying: gaining recognition slowly is the way a group succeeds and will be appreciated and loved more _because of their hard work._ I really love Stray Kids so much, ever since I got into k-pop 9 months ago (I'm lucky that my cousin introduced me to them), and I truly believe they can make it higher! STAY will never STRAY ever! Fighting with these boys 4ever!✊
Rookie group like them Is rare The way they work together Their team work Are honestly better then some of their senior group.... I just hope that they succeed more then we expect 3racha fighting
LivinLikeLarry : its actually rare for a rookie to produce their own music especially when it is a title track and not to mention if you are in a company that is known as Big3. Their seniors Got7 and 2pm took them years to be able to Make their own tittle track. company allows their artist/idol produce their music in bsides but not the tittle track itself
@@ghostcrown6572 i dont understand myself sometimes too...i meant that obviously if u stan 3racha then u also stan straykids and your firdt comment about the video being of 3racha is correct and that he is telling about 3racha
Every Stray Kids songs credits are written like these : 1. Lyrics = Bang Chan, Changbin, Han 2. Composer = Bang Chan, Changbin, Han 3. Arranger = Bang Chan . Yes, Chan is the main producer from producer line
@@Jiang_Shi-Qi17 it's like the finishing job, who mixing both music track and vocals in to one, this process could be done after all the member record their vocal
Kent Aeron Valdon juice world made like 100 songs in a month or two by himself so its normal for artist who make there own music then they pic from there
so true, 3racha is amazing, they all work so hard especially bang chan. Imagine writing and making beats from scratch while also doing other stuff with the group... must be so tiring for him sleeping 5 hours a night as well. Thank you for your efforts, you're the best leader :D
They worked super hard. Even saying that is an understatement. Suddenly media labeled them as the second this group, copying that group.. its just so heartbreaking im legit crying watching this😭 chan ah, we're gonna stay with u through thick and thin sweetie 💚💚💚
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized I just wanna say that them being labeled as this second oof group is actually based on them both aiming to be "artists that speak for their generation" instead of regular popstars. It's actually a compliment. :)
Social Anxiety I hope people can translate it the way you did but im afraid they dont cause b.a.p did the same and nobody talked bout it. I believe they are more idols doing that (since i do follow bap too), its puzzling why they keep on mentioning it, linking skz to that group, right before debut and comeback, gaining unnecessary hates instead of interests. My boys deserve -better- the best.
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized unfortunately, rabid immature fans of *that* group start flocking a post about *that* group without even reading the content of the article; and even so, has little to no effort on understanding it. It's kind of irritating, really, to see SKZ being blundered like that just because some people lack a part of their brain dedicated for understanding.
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized AND YES!!!! BAP!!!! I still feel sad about how that group went. Like I liked them more than the more popular group they debuted alongside with, and kept supporting them even when their future in the industry became blurry... ughhhhwbjsbsns they worked so hard
I am crying. Actually crying. They worked so hard and they keep doing it! I love watching them work it is really amazing, also amazing that we get to see it too! I really love these boys so much, I hope they stay happy forever.
My first Korean idol group that I follow, they do music by themselves, they have not only one but three producers 3RACHA in the team, this is the major difference that we cannot find in any group. Each of them has own style when writing song and creating melody.
lycosidae cold i also want to credit bangtan(BTS)too(if you dont find it rude cjdnd) they also make their music by themselves,especially yoongi(SUGA) and namjoon(RM) (They’re also actually credited as korean music producers not only for bangtan but to multiple people,and it really shows in their music.This is actually also why I started stanning Sk,because I haven’t really found a group as passionate and unique as bts before I found sk. 💜💜
Human Noid Im sorry for the misunderstanding.Im a stay and i stanned them because i saw hard work and independence that i rarely see in kpop which is why i mentioned bangtan,because these two are the literal definition of the word “ARTISTS” and not just idol. Im sorry if i offended you in any way,and maybe i did come off as trying to discredit skz but i wasnt.
coming back here in 2023 after finally getting to see stray kids in concert after being a stay for 5 years and the tears won’t stop flowing. my beloved 3racha… if only your past selves would know that you’d be performing the very songs you work so hard on inside a sold out American stadium…
Can't imagine that JYPE kept Bang Chan as a trainee for too long, when he's that great, but can't deny the fact that his long trainee days is also the reason why HE is the EXPERT and he knows his craft well.
Im greatful he debuted as stray kids, being the leader of these 7 kids. 7 years of training was worth it in that way.(im not an eng speaker so if i look rude plz i didnt mean it.)
As as Stay (man that felt amazing to say our Fandom name) I personally think the producer line needs some rest. Especially Channnie. I understand that he needs to work hard in sings but health is also important. Anyways Stan Stray Kids and become a Stay :))
It's so important that people realise the work and effort that goes into making a single song. Let's not even mention a whole album. Thats why I can't stand it when people disregard music, simply because they don't stan the group or something like that. I hope that Stray Kids (+3racha, duh) can relax a bit now that they have us. Let's protect and keep on supporting our boys, STAYs! 💞
Although coming from JYP, one of the top 3. 3Racha and Straykids have proven that they really don’t need JYP, to them it’s just a label. They work hard for what they want. Unlike other artist they produce their own music and write their own lyrics. They also work on their choreographies, and don’t stop until they get everything perfect. They work and put out what they made. Not just repeating and playing someone else’s work.
I can'tdecide_ Creativename but no one said other idols don't produce their own music. Can't you just let them have the credit and peacefully let them compliment someone ( i am sorry writing something like this makes it sound more offensive than saying it i dont mean to sound rude and raise fights )
I can'tdecide_ Creativename Not a lot of other artists produce their own music fully in k-pop. Many write lyrics but don’t produce their tracks. If they do then they have arrangers to arrange it for them. Idols can’t just focus solely on making music and it’s the reason so many of them don’t produce their songs. They have photo shoots, MV shoots, variety shows, interviews, dance practices, stages, and other schedules which take up all the way from the early morning until late at night. Idols don’t have time to produce their own music most of the time. From what I’ve seen, 3racha (mostly Chan) overwork themselves in order to produce their songs.
Purevsuren Ch What I was trying to state is that 3RACHA and Straykids are really underrated and It's crazy because I've seen them since predebut and they have worked so hard they deserve so mucho more recognition.
I'm a new Stay, just discovered Stray Kids 3 months ago, and I wasn't even kpop fans before. I know little bit about 3Racha, and how they produce their own songs. But did I really know about them? No. This video popped up in my recommendation when I was watching Skz MV, and I clicked. And, wow, I was amazed. 3Racha really produced Skz songs from the scratch. I don't understand music, but this looks amazing. When all the songs they wrote showed up at the ending, I was confused why there's no new songs even though there are a lot in that list? Then I checked the video, it uploaded 4 years ago. They aren't lying when they said "Our copyrighted numbers won't be ever stoppin' 'Cause we still constructing, keep it comin'" in 3RACHA. Wow, I'm glad they found me and now I'm here.
AiSwArYa vs It’s a wordplay for “sriracha”, if you pronounce 3racha in korean, it sounds like sriracha. They ever joked before that they name themselves 3racha because they’re as hot as the sriracha sauce 😂
It's all worth it 🥺... now Skz is getting the recognition they deserve...there are a lot of new stays,awards, number 1 on billboard for 2 times in a year... you've all done well especially bang Chan....
Wow!!! Chan!!! You are a great example of a leader... keep up the good work Stray Kids!!! We love you all. We are here to support you all the way. This video is very inspiring.
ive seen many comments about Chan and Changbin, but what about Jisung? He’’s the youngest in 3RACHA at the age of 19 and he is producing and writing many many songs for Stray Kids. For his age, it is very rare to see producers that work well as hard as Jisung. I am very proud of him.
thats bc they're all doing this since they were young. here hannie is 19 but chan and binnie also started when they were 18/19 prolly even more younger
I love this so much 😭 They put their literal souls into all of this, it’s hard not to appreciate their talents and dedication into a passion they all share. Their music is such a beautiful form of expression that I hope more and more people get to know and love it as much as we STAYs (AH I LOVE THIS) do
This is gem !! Honestly people needs to watch this before judging and comparing them saying they are this group copycata they pour their hearts and souls into making music that isn't only cool but genius and inspiring ! Well what can I say we don't need them right? We have eachothers and we have stray kids !! And stray kids have us Stays!! I promise I'm gonna stay till the end !! Let's fight! 3racha you're doing good !
I love ur pp. Seriously, heheh 🤗and... Can i ask you smth, who is the one that said SK is a copycat group? I mean, sorry, but copycat from what group? in my opinion SK is definition of hardworking group and full of creativity. It's just a shame that, everytime there's a new group, they always call it flop. And i feel so bad about it.. T T (sorry for my bad english)
OhyiOhyoDes 24 there were a lotta articles about how people think that stray kids is copying BTS bc d9 and no were “similar” which is one of the stupidest thing I’ve heard and that stray kids was copying bts hip hop concept
@@aniihwa oh i get it now. Thank you for ur information bcs i really dont know about it. Really for sure 😊 So the concept of Hip hop is only owned by bts only. Is that what you mean? How about big bang? I guess they did that concept too. In 2008, if i not mistaken. Or am i wrong? Sorry, but i'm so curious about it. Thanks
Producer, Writer, Editor, Director, Choreographer and everything. Why do you have to have all of this talents SKZ?? around of applause to our leader's effort and to Changbin and Jisung's hardworks to compose the lyrics and ofcourse to all the members, you serve as an inspiration that even though its hard and you all are tired still you guys do your best in every songs and we love it all, your songs are not just songs it has something to do with what you experienced and really reflect who you are, you are showing us that Stray Kids are more than just an idol, what you achieved and will achieve really are worth it, you guys deserve it. 😍😂😂
Chan used to always introduce himself as Triple Threat - can Rap, Sing and Dance..but for me to be honest his way more than that together with Changbin and Han..they're more than just a triple threat bcoz they can do almost EVERYTHING.. Nothing but LOVE and RESPECT for this multitalented group!!! ❤❤❤ Let's make 2018 a Stray Kids Year..Fighting!!!
Oh how I love this! 3RACHA is literally the foundation that holds and represents Stray Kids and its just... I couldn't have asked for anything better. Theyre super multitalented and hard working, not to mention their personalities are literally the best! Theyre all capable of leading and teaching, producing and composing, rapping, singing, dancing, etc. At such a young age too! Just imagine the years to come!!! Just how much they would develop from here with all of the members together? This is what you call the next leaders for the next generation of kpop and I am ALL for it. I don't understand why people would accuse mean things to Stray Kids... theyre probably just really ignorant or even feeling threatened I bet. SKZ, STAYS, LETS STAY STRONG AND DONT LET THE HATERS DRAG YOU DOWN! This video is exactly how you can shut them up, good job 👌👍👏 (sorry for the essay 😂)
STRAY KIDS/3RACHA SONG LIST, Update 1. Intro 2. The dreamz 3. Tik tok 4. Complain 5. Wow 6. 1 000 000 wons (?) 7. 은석이 (Eum Seok Lee) 8. 42 9. NXT 2U 10. Cloud-9 11. Don Quixote 12. 건들시마 (Don't touch) 13. Runner's High 14.쉿 15. 그림자도 빛이 있어야 존재 16.힘이 돼 17. 깨 (sesame) 18. 작은 Dragon Three 마리 19. ID:a 20. 국산 바나나 21. Subway part ll 22. Peer pressure 23. Cypher l 24. Small Things 25. 지갑방 (wallet room) 26. +.- 27. Alchemistry 28. IF 29. I SEE 30. Matryoshka 31. Hoodie season 32. P.A.C.E. 33. 고장난 나침반 34. Placebo 35. SCENE STEALERS 36. Double knot 37. For you 38. Star line 39. Hellevator 40. Grrr 총량의 법칙 41. 어린 날개 (Spread my wings) 42. YAYAYA 43. GLOW 44. School life 45. 4419 46. NOT! 47. District 9 48. Mirror 49. Awaken 50. ROCK 51. 잘 하고 있어 (Grow up) 52. 3rd eye 53. WHO? 54. My pace 55. Voices 56. Question 57. Insomnia 58. M.I.A 59. Awkward silence 60. YOU 61. I am YOU 62. My side 63. Hero's soup 64. Get cool 65. N/S 66. 0325 67. Entrance 68. MIROH 69. Victory song 70. Maze of memories 71. Boxer 72. Chronosaurus 73. 19 74. Road not taken 75. Side effects 76. TMT 77. Mixtape #1 78. Mixtape #2 79. Mixtape #3 80. Mixtape #4 81. STOP 82. Double knot 83. Levanter 84. Booster 85. Astronaut 86. Sunshine 87. You can stay 88. GO生 89. God's menu 90. Easy 91. Pacemaker 92. Airplane 93. Another day 94. Phobia 95. 정사진 (Blueprint) 96. TA 97. Haven 98. TOP (Tower of God OP) 99. SLUMP (Tower of God Ed) 100. Mixtape: Gone days 101. Mixtape: 바보라도 알아 (On track) 102. Hello Stranger (Pop out boy OST)
They helped the other members with great love that what i like in 3RASHA specilally Chan becaus he is the leader thanks a lot chan You are a good man😢😢😢😢
I'm not a STAY, but I just discovered this whole thing and I totally respect them. They probably gave me an inspiration to keep on going with what I'm doing and that I'll improve before without even realising it myself, this guys deserve alot everyone. Such hardworking humans again RESPECT.
And this ladies and gentlemen, is why Bang Chan is my bias♡ Really, he's one of the best leaders I've seen out there and he's just such a hard-working and loving guy that's it's IMPOSSIBLE not to be soft for our leadernim😍😍😍
From this to what we are now!! It’s enough to make me cry. MY SKZ YOU ARE SO BIG NOW, I CANT HUG YOU ANYMORE!!😭😭 but honestly I’m so proud of you guys. The hardwork and dedication is paying off and you’ll only go up from here. Sticking to your jutdae and creating waves🔥🔥🔥🔥
3RACHA LITERALLY DESERVES EVERYTHING!! and i know they are one of the reason why stray kids will become succesful very soon❤ Take care our 3racha, we're always here!!❤
I'm just seeing this video I'm literally trying not to cry right now Stray kids are just so amazing in ways I did not even expect It's not even up to 3 months I became a STAY and I wished I knew them ever since their first debut They really deserve the best I promise to continue to support them And Together we take over the Kpop music world
Came back here as we are going to see Bangchan producing music for the upcoming show “Kingdom”. I think we might see him produce stuff and actually see him do it with the members .
It's always so admirable but kind of sad too to see that they were babies. Doing a job that professionals studied and worked in for years. And doing it well, with responsibility and talent. All while they surfed the beginning of idol life, learnt choreos and followed a schedule. Admirable really. They are an example of integrity and hard work.
What Jisung said about Chan getting the least amount of sleep usually, I hate that. I understand and love that this is what they enjoy and they're amazing at it, but I wish they would get more sleep because it's not good for them to work all night.
@@cathzhen22 can't remember if I watched here in this clip th-cam.com/video/1eeasAKl7yM/w-d-xo.html or here (full interview) th-cam.com/video/1eeasAKl7yM/w-d-xo.html . I think they kind of said it half joking and I believe Chan took power naps too during the day
Stray Kids is a really different and unique groups! 3Racha produce ALL of their songs and even the leader didn't sleep even though we asked him to. People always thinks they're too weak and didn't deserve any awards, but 3Racha and Stray Kids prove them wrong and this is why I'll always be a STAY STRAY KIDS AND 3RACHA FIGHTING!!!
3racha is the heart of stray kids. Seriously. They serve as the guide and strength of stray kids. I know all of them are really talented because they wouldn’t be able to debut if not right? But 3racha is kinda special they made sure to produce their own music that is fit with their own style. They were improving day by day. I don’t know but for me the future of kpop industry is really bright because of a group like them. They were setting a new standard now and it’s actually hard to create or find people like them. Need not to mention how deep and meaningful their lyrics are. They are really admirable to be honest. Maybe you can give me names of some idol groups out there doing the same as 3racha / Stray kids but my point here is that aside from them being a rookie they are all-rounded and flexible. Their charms are incomparable. They also have unique taste of music and their voices can be distinguish in an instant because it’s way too different among the others. I have so many things to say about them but I’ll just save it next time. If you want a talented and versatile group STAN THEM. To my co-Stays AJA!
OMG I am watching this on October of 2024!!! I'm a new Baby Stay . This was from 6 years ago😱 You guys did great. Bang Chan your hard work paid off!! 😘 What have I been missing all these years 😖
This video reminded me why they are my bias in stray kids...these guys are my age and already work so much in order to do what they love...music. They make me so proud and I want to remain watching them grow as artists. *STAYs and 3RACHA stans let's keep supporting them on this journey* ♡
I've never been so proud of being a fan of any other group that much as I'm proud of being a STAY. These guys deserve better. Our talented Stray Kids. They are more than just a group, I'm sure some of you will relate. They are our family. I'll always be thankful to them no matter what others say. They are in my heart forever. Stray Kids everywhere all around the world 💙💙💙
I wish kpop idols showed the behind the scenes like this more often. Ive always wanted to see a behind the scene of how they practise their dances but i don't think there's a video like that
I was smiling through this whole video. I’m very proud of 3ARCHA and Stray Kids. People should really appreciate them more. Especially since they work hard for the lyrics.
chan stays up until 5 AM to make music then goes to the company to practice at 10 AM,, he doesnt even have to sleep omfg and not to mention he literally formed stray kids by himself (and jyp but thats not the poiNT) hes also the leader and also pays a lot of attention to the members and works hard to make them a better team. the 7 rotys stray kids' earned at the same year they debuted are what they deserve !!!!!!!!! us stays should work harder to repay all their efforts to make us happy by getting them theyre first win in a music show !!
So dedicated, so talented And they have only 20, 18 and 17 yo, they ARE AMAZING. I Know They Will be BIG! FIGHTING 3RACHA, FIGHTING STRAY KIDS!!! 😍😘😘 Edit: I just found out the name of the fandom! 😱😭😭😭😭😭😍😍😍 *FIGHTING STAY!!!*
When he fall asleep while sitting omg. I am sad and proud at the same time .. This is my first time watching this .. no wonder they are really respect him as a hyung and leader .. skz deserves more
@I'm tryin i am literally so happy that u wrote this he is my inspiration too like he really needs rest sometimes he overworks himself and chan's room is really so comforting it's hard to be a idol man i caan't do this even for one day
@I'm tryin U know that's what i love about kpop fandoms we all are connected like a family i myself have my best friend who is army (i am an armystay) and when i talked to her it feels like so damn good and it makes me feel we all are similar divided by borders connected by music
Boi, he is the best human in the earth, I swear. He works really hard, doesn't sleep correctly and takes care of all the members. He is also sweet, always hugs everyone and makes them laugh. He trained for seven fucking years, he helps members with EVERYTHING and he apologized after crying when they won in the Japan MAMA awards. And, let's remember he is VERY young. Stray Kids and their leader deserve all those trophies, all the Stay's love and they also deserve a long break. I think Christopher Bang is the best leader we could wish for.
We need to protect leader bang chan like he is working himself out until all hours of the morning to produce music for us we don’t deserve him he need sleep and he needs to rest but he won’t because he doesn’t want to let stays down and nothing he does will ever let me down so please we need to protect him #protectleaderbangchan
This was actually the best group I've ever stan tho even I liked Twice the best back then, now they're the same level with stray kids. Stray kids has been producing their own songs while jyp was like "just let me do it" in all in
Wow, for real now, I've been 3racha/produce line biased since the beginning and i'm really proud of them rn, stray kids present the work but who really works hard? 3racha line, i'm so grateful for them. You may be Hyunjin or Felix biased but never forget what 3racha does for us. Rest well guys! Stray Kids forever
Other people think that because Stray Kids are from the Big 3 they have it easy, but no. Stray Kids especially 3RACHA pour their heart and soul into their music. They work so hard just like other Kpop groups and the fact that they're still so young and are already this involved in their craft is honestly so amazing. They're gonna reach the top one day I just know it...
Really well said. I agree, and I’m blown away. I’m their age, and it’s inspiring and motivating
I agree with you 100%. They work so hard, and they're gonna prove that they're not big because they're from JYP, but because of their passion and love for music and _even_ for us STAYs. :) They're not even that big imo tbh, and they seem to be slept on sadly, but they surely have a long way to go! You know the saying: gaining recognition slowly is the way a group succeeds and will be appreciated and loved more _because of their hard work._ I really love Stray Kids so much, ever since I got into k-pop 9 months ago (I'm lucky that my cousin introduced me to them), and I truly believe they can make it higher! STAY will never STRAY ever! Fighting with these boys 4ever!✊
I agree with you!Stray kids everywhere all around the world!
@@minvi152 well, you should understand that this was 11 months ago so they were still rookies at the time :)
starmyland I was talking about now the present but you have a point
I'm confident 3racha are one of the reasons Stray Kids are going to be huge in the future ♥
Anyways I can't believe IMMA STAY.
*STAY DONT STRAY YALL*
I honestly LOVE the name, Stay ❤️
underwater waves same!! It's so cute ♥
stray freckles #STAY
Like, we are the place for them, stray kids to STAY
Will never! These boys are amazing!
Rookie group like them
Is rare
The way they work together
Their team work
Are honestly better then some of their senior group....
I just hope that they succeed more then we expect
3racha fighting
Yesss they deserve more
It’s not really rare but I agree the boys have amazing chemistry!1!1!1
LivinLikeLarry : its actually rare for a rookie to produce their own music especially when it is a title track and not to mention if you are in a company that is known as Big3. Their seniors Got7 and 2pm took them years to be able to
Make their own tittle track. company allows their artist/idol produce their music in bsides but not the tittle track itself
@@livinlikelarry8788 lmfao me when im lying:
Ann Mheyan oh yeah I know that it’s definitely rare for a rookie group to write their own music but the things the person said above..is not rare.
JYP found gems with 3RACHA.
Received
They came down from heaven
Where’s the lie?🥺
3RACHA
3 incredible rappers
3 big producers
3 beautiful vocals
3 powerful dancers
3 unparalleled talents
thankfully, stan from the right trio
Dont only stan 3racha stan straykids
@@hooriahhasan7755 I think they do but since it's a video about 3racha, they comment about 3racha
@@ghostcrown6572 ik they do stan straykids
@@hooriahhasan7755 then why did you---
@@ghostcrown6572 i dont understand myself sometimes too...i meant that obviously if u stan 3racha then u also stan straykids and your firdt comment about the video being of 3racha is correct and that he is telling about 3racha
Every Stray Kids songs credits are written like these :
1. Lyrics = Bang Chan, Changbin, Han
2. Composer = Bang Chan, Changbin, Han
3. Arranger = Bang Chan
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Yes, Chan is the main producer from producer line
He is really amazing 👏
Best leader behavior
@@Jiang_Shi-Qi17 it's like the finishing job, who mixing both music track and vocals in to one, this process could be done after all the member record their vocal
외쳐 방찬!
I want to ask plz how do they become producers in very young age? Especially han
Thank u
62 songs??!!! Thats not a joke 😭😭😭😭 Proud to be STAY here.
Kent Aeron Valdon juice world made like 100 songs in a month or two by himself so its normal for artist who make there own music then they pic from there
72* now
They probably have more unfinished songs, but these are their copyright claimed songs i think
@@achair3095 can i ask.the tittle?
@@FLUFFY4891 not for kpop artist
Channie rest well you work way too hard and you also have to take care of all those kids and please stayyy healthy!! 😊
where can i watch @0:48 with english subs please let me know thank you
@@aprillepatriciasatowallace5390 th-cam.com/video/pTx_azEjxwc/w-d-xo.html
I'm the 1000 like.. Ehh just saying
so true, 3racha is amazing, they all work so hard especially bang chan. Imagine writing and making beats from scratch while also doing other stuff with the group...
must be so tiring for him sleeping 5 hours a night as well. Thank you for your efforts, you're the best leader :D
@@aprillepatriciasatowallace5390 survival show
It's 2024. I'm crying. 3RACHA did their best for Stray Kids and they continuously strive for the best for Stray Kids. 🥺😭
They worked super hard. Even saying that is an understatement. Suddenly media labeled them as the second this group, copying that group.. its just so heartbreaking im legit crying watching this😭 chan ah, we're gonna stay with u through thick and thin sweetie 💚💚💚
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized yes we're STAYs
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized I just wanna say that them being labeled as this second oof group is actually based on them both aiming to be "artists that speak for their generation" instead of regular popstars. It's actually a compliment. :)
Social Anxiety I hope people can translate it the way you did but im afraid they dont cause b.a.p did the same and nobody talked bout it. I believe they are more idols doing that (since i do follow bap too), its puzzling why they keep on mentioning it, linking skz to that group, right before debut and comeback, gaining unnecessary hates instead of interests. My boys deserve -better- the best.
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized unfortunately, rabid immature fans of *that* group start flocking a post about *that* group without even reading the content of the article; and even so, has little to no effort on understanding it. It's kind of irritating, really, to see SKZ being blundered like that just because some people lack a part of their brain dedicated for understanding.
StrayKids IamNOT plagiarized AND YES!!!! BAP!!!! I still feel sad about how that group went. Like I liked them more than the more popular group they debuted alongside with, and kept supporting them even when their future in the industry became blurry... ughhhhwbjsbsns they worked so hard
I just still can't believe these super boys are only 18-21 y/0 😭😭😭
I am crying. Actually crying. They worked so hard and they keep doing it! I love watching them work it is really amazing, also amazing that we get to see it too! I really love these boys so much, I hope they stay happy forever.
and stay together forever 🙏
Me too
Five years later and they're one of the biggest 4th gen groups out there. Their hard word really paid off and I couldn't be any prouder 😭❤
My first Korean idol group that I follow, they do music by themselves, they have not only one but three producers 3RACHA in the team, this is the major difference that we cannot find in any group. Each of them has own style when writing song and creating melody.
lycosidae cold i also want to credit bangtan(BTS)too(if you dont find it rude cjdnd) they also make their music by themselves,especially yoongi(SUGA) and namjoon(RM) (They’re also actually credited as korean music producers not only for bangtan but to multiple people,and it really shows in their music.This is actually also why I started stanning Sk,because I haven’t really found a group as passionate and unique as bts before I found sk. 💜💜
Also seventeen
@@eternallywkookoo4523 as usual an idiot fan mentioning other group other than skz in unrelated other group videos. A total idiot
@@eternallywkookoo4523 stray kids make their own music even from pre-debut era. Even their music become title track in album until now.
Human Noid Im sorry for the misunderstanding.Im a stay and i stanned them because i saw hard work and independence that i rarely see in kpop which is why i mentioned bangtan,because these two are the literal definition of the word “ARTISTS” and not just idol.
Im sorry if i offended you in any way,and maybe i did come off as trying to discredit skz but i wasnt.
coming back here in 2023 after finally getting to see stray kids in concert after being a stay for 5 years and the tears won’t stop flowing. my beloved 3racha… if only your past selves would know that you’d be performing the very songs you work so hard on inside a sold out American stadium…
A big shout out to JYP for trusting 3racha with the entire skz discography. Not an easy decision given they were 17-20 year olds only.
The way every old comment is like "they are gonna grow big" "they are gonna be at the top" and see them now😭😭🙏
I love it🥹
Look at them now fr❤
I love it🥹
Look at them now fr❤
Can't imagine that JYPE kept Bang Chan as a trainee for too long, when he's that great, but can't deny the fact that his long trainee days is also the reason why HE is the EXPERT and he knows his craft well.
Im greatful he debuted as stray kids, being the leader of these 7 kids.
7 years of training was worth it in that way.(im not an eng speaker so if i look rude plz i didnt mean it.)
Han jisung, he is one of millenium line or maknae line, but he's so amazing being lyrics writer and also producing songs with the hyung-line :"(
#STAYWITHSTRAYKIDS
Yo Han #staydontstray
As as Stay (man that felt amazing to say our Fandom name) I personally think the producer line needs some rest. Especially Channnie. I understand that he needs to work hard in sings but health is also important.
Anyways Stan Stray Kids and become a Stay :))
It's so important that people realise the work and effort that goes into making a single song. Let's not even mention a whole album. Thats why I can't stand it when people disregard music, simply because they don't stan the group or something like that. I hope that Stray Kids (+3racha, duh) can relax a bit now that they have us. Let's protect and keep on supporting our boys, STAYs! 💞
Although coming from JYP, one of the top 3. 3Racha and Straykids have proven that they really don’t need JYP, to them it’s just a label. They work hard for what they want. Unlike other artist they produce their own music and write their own lyrics. They also work on their choreographies, and don’t stop until they get everything perfect. They work and put out what they made. Not just repeating and playing someone else’s work.
But other artists also produce their own music you know?
I can'tdecide_ Creativename but no one said other idols don't produce their own music. Can't you just let them have the credit and peacefully let them compliment someone ( i am sorry writing something like this makes it sound more offensive than saying it i dont mean to sound rude and raise fights )
I can'tdecide_ Creativename Not a lot of other artists produce their own music fully in k-pop. Many write lyrics but don’t produce their tracks. If they do then they have arrangers to arrange it for them. Idols can’t just focus solely on making music and it’s the reason so many of them don’t produce their songs. They have photo shoots, MV shoots, variety shows, interviews, dance practices, stages, and other schedules which take up all the way from the early morning until late at night. Idols don’t have time to produce their own music most of the time. From what I’ve seen, 3racha (mostly Chan) overwork themselves in order to produce their songs.
I can'tdecide_ Creativename Yeah I know but 3racha and Straykids do a fantastic job and don't get the recognition they deserve for their hard work!
Purevsuren Ch What I was trying to state is that 3RACHA and Straykids are really underrated and It's crazy because I've seen them since predebut and they have worked so hard they deserve so mucho more recognition.
3rachas humble beginnings i love how they produce amazing songs from then and now
Its crazy how far they’ve come and how much great music they have written up to this day. Thank you 3RACHA and thank you Straykids for everything.
I'm a new Stay, just discovered Stray Kids 3 months ago, and I wasn't even kpop fans before.
I know little bit about 3Racha, and how they produce their own songs. But did I really know about them? No.
This video popped up in my recommendation when I was watching Skz MV, and I clicked. And, wow, I was amazed. 3Racha really produced Skz songs from the scratch. I don't understand music, but this looks amazing.
When all the songs they wrote showed up at the ending, I was confused why there's no new songs even though there are a lot in that list? Then I checked the video, it uploaded 4 years ago.
They aren't lying when they said "Our copyrighted numbers won't be ever stoppin' 'Cause we still constructing, keep it comin'" in 3RACHA.
Wow, I'm glad they found me and now I'm here.
My bias n all the other 3 Racha members work so hard💜😭
Stray Kidz I have a question whom do you guys refers to 3Racha boys in stray kids🤣
3racha members are BangChan,Han Jisung and Changbin
Kalsang Dolma The three have their own separate music from Stray Kids.
cassie theians why racha
AiSwArYa vs It’s a wordplay for “sriracha”, if you pronounce 3racha in korean, it sounds like sriracha. They ever joked before that they name themselves 3racha because they’re as hot as the sriracha sauce 😂
It's all worth it 🥺... now Skz is getting the recognition they deserve...there are a lot of new stays,awards, number 1 on billboard for 2 times in a year... you've all done well especially bang Chan....
Wow!!! Chan!!! You are a great example of a leader... keep up the good work Stray Kids!!! We love you all. We are here to support you all the way. This video is very inspiring.
ive seen many comments about Chan and Changbin, but what about Jisung?
He’’s the youngest in 3RACHA at the age of 19 and he is producing and writing many many songs for Stray Kids.
For his age, it is very rare to see producers that work well as hard as Jisung.
I am very proud of him.
Very true.
And he's also The Ace of 4th gen.
All of 3racha and stray kids need to be appreciated.
thats bc they're all doing this since they were young. here hannie is 19 but chan and binnie also started when they were 18/19 prolly even more younger
Han has been composing songs since he was 13, because his father was in a rock band.
Which means the 3Racha are all musicians.
This made me sad watching him falling asleep from exhaustion. 3Racha are hard workers, and produce fire music...
Watching Bang Chan fall asleep in his chair made me tear up, but he also reminded me of a sims character, so my feelings were conflicted.
MAD RESPECT FOR BANGCHAN.
This man deserves his own company ❤️
I love this so much 😭 They put their literal souls into all of this, it’s hard not to appreciate their talents and dedication into a passion they all share. Their music is such a beautiful form of expression that I hope more and more people get to know and love it as much as we STAYs (AH I LOVE THIS) do
I just want to say 3Racha is the soul of Stray Kids, without 3racha, Stray Kids will not exist, i love this cute fandom STAY and i love SK
This is gem !! Honestly people needs to watch this before judging and comparing them saying they are this group copycata they pour their hearts and souls into making music that isn't only cool but genius and inspiring ! Well what can I say we don't need them right? We have eachothers and we have stray kids !! And stray kids have us Stays!!
I promise I'm gonna stay till the end !! Let's fight! 3racha you're doing good !
Mia n yaaaas sis 👏
I love ur pp. Seriously, heheh 🤗and... Can i ask you smth, who is the one that said SK is a copycat group? I mean, sorry, but copycat from what group?
in my opinion SK is definition of hardworking group and full of creativity. It's just a shame that, everytime there's a new group, they always call it flop. And i feel so bad about it.. T T (sorry for my bad english)
OhyiOhyoDes 24 there were a lotta articles about how people think that stray kids is copying BTS bc d9 and no were “similar” which is one of the stupidest thing I’ve heard and that stray kids was copying bts hip hop concept
@@aniihwa oh i get it now. Thank you for ur information bcs i really dont know about it. Really for sure 😊
So the concept of Hip hop is only owned by bts only. Is that what you mean?
How about big bang? I guess they did that concept too. In 2008, if i not mistaken. Or am i wrong? Sorry, but i'm so curious about it. Thanks
look how big they have become. thank you for your work hard, our 3RACHA.
Producer, Writer, Editor, Director, Choreographer and everything. Why do you have to have all of this talents SKZ?? around of applause to our leader's effort and to Changbin and Jisung's hardworks to compose the lyrics and ofcourse to all the members, you serve as an inspiration that even though its hard and you all are tired still you guys do your best in every songs and we love it all, your songs are not just songs it has something to do with what you experienced and really reflect who you are, you are showing us that Stray Kids are more than just an idol, what you achieved and will achieve really are worth it, you guys deserve it. 😍😂😂
Chan used to always introduce himself as Triple Threat - can Rap, Sing and Dance..but for me to be honest his way more than that together with Changbin and Han..they're more than just a triple threat bcoz they can do almost EVERYTHING..
Nothing but LOVE and RESPECT for this multitalented group!!! ❤❤❤
Let's make 2018 a Stray Kids Year..Fighting!!!
Oh how I love this! 3RACHA is literally the foundation that holds and represents Stray Kids and its just... I couldn't have asked for anything better. Theyre super multitalented and hard working, not to mention their personalities are literally the best! Theyre all capable of leading and teaching, producing and composing, rapping, singing, dancing, etc. At such a young age too! Just imagine the years to come!!! Just how much they would develop from here with all of the members together? This is what you call the next leaders for the next generation of kpop and I am ALL for it.
I don't understand why people would accuse mean things to Stray Kids... theyre probably just really ignorant or even feeling threatened I bet.
SKZ, STAYS, LETS STAY STRONG AND DONT LET THE HATERS DRAG YOU DOWN! This video is exactly how you can shut them up, good job 👌👍👏
(sorry for the essay 😂)
These guys are TRUE GOLD !!!! they deserve the WORLD !!!!!!!!!!
STRAY KIDS/3RACHA SONG LIST, Update
1. Intro
2. The dreamz
3. Tik tok
4. Complain
5. Wow
6. 1 000 000 wons (?)
7. 은석이 (Eum Seok Lee)
8. 42
9. NXT 2U
10. Cloud-9
11. Don Quixote
12. 건들시마 (Don't touch)
13. Runner's High
14.쉿
15. 그림자도 빛이 있어야 존재
16.힘이 돼
17. 깨 (sesame)
18. 작은 Dragon Three 마리
19. ID:a
20. 국산 바나나
21. Subway part ll
22. Peer pressure
23. Cypher l
24. Small Things
25. 지갑방 (wallet room)
26. +.-
27. Alchemistry
28. IF
29. I SEE
30. Matryoshka
31. Hoodie season
32. P.A.C.E.
33. 고장난 나침반
34. Placebo
35. SCENE STEALERS
36. Double knot
37. For you
38. Star line
39. Hellevator
40. Grrr 총량의 법칙
41. 어린 날개 (Spread my wings)
42. YAYAYA
43. GLOW
44. School life
45. 4419
46. NOT!
47. District 9
48. Mirror
49. Awaken
50. ROCK
51. 잘 하고 있어 (Grow up)
52. 3rd eye
53. WHO?
54. My pace
55. Voices
56. Question
57. Insomnia
58. M.I.A
59. Awkward silence
60. YOU
61. I am YOU
62. My side
63. Hero's soup
64. Get cool
65. N/S
66. 0325
67. Entrance
68. MIROH
69. Victory song
70. Maze of memories
71. Boxer
72. Chronosaurus
73. 19
74. Road not taken
75. Side effects
76. TMT
77. Mixtape #1
78. Mixtape #2
79. Mixtape #3
80. Mixtape #4
81. STOP
82. Double knot
83. Levanter
84. Booster
85. Astronaut
86. Sunshine
87. You can stay
88. GO生
89. God's menu
90. Easy
91. Pacemaker
92. Airplane
93. Another day
94. Phobia
95. 정사진 (Blueprint)
96. TA
97. Haven
98. TOP (Tower of God OP)
99. SLUMP (Tower of God Ed)
100. Mixtape: Gone days
101. Mixtape: 바보라도 알아 (On track)
102. Hello Stranger (Pop out boy OST)
DAAAAAAAMN.....🙌
I will update💕
*UPDATE*
103. Ice Americano (HAN & LEE KNOW)
104. 한 장 더 (One More) (BANG CHAN & FELIX)
105. Yeah민BOSS (CHANGBIN & I.N)
106. 잔소리 대마항 (Nagging King) (HYUNJIN & SEUNGMIN)
*OH I FORGOT*
107. 인정하기 싫어 (I hate to admit) (BANG CHAN♡)
108. Streetlight (CHANGBIN ft. BANG CHAN)
109. Close (HAN)
All of their songs made by 3racha?
CHAN I I WILL BE HERE FOR YOU AS A STAY we will GO STRAY KIDS #awesomeleader
They helped the other members with great love that what i like in 3RASHA specilally Chan becaus he is the leader thanks a lot chan
You are a good man😢😢😢😢
Im not sure if you speak English but im proud of you to atleast try to appreciate their hard work even though you dont know the correct spelling
Who's watching in 2022 ?
One of the 4th generation's Kings 👑🔥
I'm not a STAY, but I just discovered this whole thing and I totally respect them. They probably gave me an inspiration to keep on going with what I'm doing and that I'll improve before without even realising it myself, this guys deserve alot everyone. Such hardworking humans again RESPECT.
that 1% of the time chan and jamie aren't teasing each other 😂
And this ladies and gentlemen, is why Bang Chan is my bias♡ Really, he's one of the best leaders I've seen out there and he's just such a hard-working and loving guy that's it's IMPOSSIBLE not to be soft for our leadernim😍😍😍
From this to what we are now!! It’s enough to make me cry. MY SKZ YOU ARE SO BIG NOW, I CANT HUG YOU ANYMORE!!😭😭 but honestly I’m so proud of you guys. The hardwork and dedication is paying off and you’ll only go up from here. Sticking to your jutdae and creating waves🔥🔥🔥🔥
stray kids deserve better honestly!!! like they are freaking talented period!
3RACHA LITERALLY DESERVES EVERYTHING!! and i know they are one of the reason why stray kids will become succesful very soon❤ Take care our 3racha, we're always here!!❤
" I felt like I was a Rookie producer working with them"
- Alesso
they were babies and they worked so hard to be where they are now, I'm so proud of them ❤
This is such a great vid to educate those who belittle them. I love it. WE STAY WITH STRAY KIDS
I'm just seeing this video
I'm literally trying not to cry right now
Stray kids are just so amazing in ways I did not even expect
It's not even up to 3 months I became a STAY and I wished I knew them ever since their first debut
They really deserve the best
I promise to continue to support them
And Together we take over the Kpop music world
Chan is one of the best leaders if not the best..lol😍😍
did I stan the right group?
*1000000000000000000000000x YES. I. DID.*
also Chan is my ult✔✔✔✔✔✔
Hey fellow Channie ult😂🫶
Han's my other ult though♥︎
Our 3Racha our Stray Kids, we will Stay forever and ever. Stay love you, Stay support you 😭♥️♥️
WOW!!!! They are the best.....
Thank you for sharing this side of them... :)
Wait,Am I crying.?
underwater waves I know right..
They are the best :"(
We are :((( they deserve the best 😭😭😭💖💖💖
Wonho x chan's Wifeu yesssss, Did you cry too?
Came back here as we are going to see Bangchan producing music for the upcoming show “Kingdom”. I think we might see him produce stuff and actually see him do it with the members .
I want to thank you for also including their deleted 3RACHA tracks on the list since not many new STAYs or 3RACHA fans know about them. *THANK YOU*
Why they delete?
And this is why I'm a proud stay. Ready to protect these precious kids at all costs.
It's always so admirable but kind of sad too to see that they were babies. Doing a job that professionals studied and worked in for years. And doing it well, with responsibility and talent.
All while they surfed the beginning of idol life, learnt choreos and followed a schedule.
Admirable really.
They are an example of integrity and hard work.
Too much respect for SKZ, 3RACHA especially LEADER BANGCHAN ♥️♥️♥️
What Jisung said about Chan getting the least amount of sleep usually, I hate that. I understand and love that this is what they enjoy and they're amazing at it, but I wish they would get more sleep because it's not good for them to work all night.
@@underwaterwaves and now the members said chan slept for 6 hours in a week for Go Live album
@@Ren-lf8ki when? Do you have the link?
@@underwaterwaves do you have link of it? I'd like to know more of stray kids...
@@cathzhen22 can't remember if I watched here in this clip th-cam.com/video/1eeasAKl7yM/w-d-xo.html or here (full interview) th-cam.com/video/1eeasAKl7yM/w-d-xo.html . I think they kind of said it half joking and I believe Chan took power naps too during the day
3racha be bagging all the royalties now that they are actually charting everywhere!! couldn't be any prouder!!!
But in Korea-😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
I hope, one day...
3 Racha will get an award for best producer
Lol they did❤
I love how stray kids fans now saying.. Imma stay!! Stay don't stray!! Im a stay!!
Hello Staydeuls!!
Stray Kids is a really different and unique groups! 3Racha produce ALL of their songs and even the leader didn't sleep even though we asked him to. People always thinks they're too weak and didn't deserve any awards, but 3Racha and Stray Kids prove them wrong and this is why I'll always be a STAY
STRAY KIDS AND 3RACHA FIGHTING!!!
Huge respect to our 3RACHA...this's why I became a stay
oh how i wish i could take in their pain and help relieve them even just a little bit
they deserve the world
3racha is the heart of stray kids. Seriously. They serve as the guide and strength of stray kids. I know all of them are really talented because they wouldn’t be able to debut if not right? But 3racha is kinda special they made sure to produce their own music that is fit with their own style. They were improving day by day. I don’t know but for me the future of kpop industry is really bright because of a group like them. They were setting a new standard now and it’s actually hard to create or find people like them. Need not to mention how deep and meaningful their lyrics are. They are really admirable to be honest. Maybe you can give me names of some idol groups out there doing the same as 3racha / Stray kids but my point here is that aside from them being a rookie they are all-rounded and flexible. Their charms are incomparable. They also have unique taste of music and their voices can be distinguish in an instant because it’s way too different among the others. I have so many things to say about them but I’ll just save it next time.
If you want a talented and versatile group STAN THEM.
To my co-Stays AJA!
OMG I am watching this on October of 2024!!! I'm a new Baby Stay . This was from 6 years ago😱 You guys did great. Bang Chan your hard work paid off!! 😘 What have I been missing all these years 😖
This video reminded me why they are my bias in stray kids...these guys are my age and already work so much in order to do what they love...music.
They make me so proud and I want to remain watching them grow as artists.
*STAYs and 3RACHA stans let's keep supporting them on this journey* ♡
They are incredibly creative and talented at young age...and their teamwork is everything. RESPECT
this video is one of my favorite, i keep coming back to re-watch, it make me respect 3RACHA so much especially the leader, bangchan.
I've never been so proud of being a fan of any other group that much as I'm proud of being a STAY. These guys deserve better. Our talented Stray Kids. They are more than just a group, I'm sure some of you will relate. They are our family. I'll always be thankful to them no matter what others say. They are in my heart forever. Stray Kids everywhere all around the world 💙💙💙
#STAYFORSTRAYKIDS
I wish kpop idols showed the behind the scenes like this more often. Ive always wanted to see a behind the scene of how they practise their dances but i don't think there's a video like that
Honestly 3racha is the reason why I learned to respect k-pop industry... Seriously this kind of people just deserve respect
Seriously same !!
Also I got into skz bcuz I saw them producing together .
Same tbh, years later they're still the only group I stan even though I casually listen to other songs besides theirs
I was smiling through this whole video. I’m very proud of 3ARCHA and Stray Kids. People should really appreciate them more. Especially since they work hard for the lyrics.
chan stays up until 5 AM to make music then goes to the company to practice at 10 AM,, he doesnt even have to sleep omfg and not to mention he literally formed stray kids by himself (and jyp but thats not the poiNT) hes also the leader and also pays a lot of attention to the members and works hard to make them a better team. the 7 rotys stray kids' earned at the same year they debuted are what they deserve !!!!!!!!! us stays should work harder to repay all their efforts to make us happy by getting them theyre first win in a music show !!
My boys they really hard work I am happy for to be Stay
They wrote 100+ song
So dedicated, so talented And they have only 20, 18 and 17 yo, they ARE AMAZING. I Know They Will be BIG! FIGHTING 3RACHA, FIGHTING STRAY KIDS!!! 😍😘😘
Edit: I just found out the name of the fandom! 😱😭😭😭😭😭😍😍😍
*FIGHTING STAY!!!*
i have sm respect for them. im so glad that they didn't give up when they were trainees because so brings sm happiness to me
3:20 *THE MAKING OF HELLEVATOR Y'ALL*
I Admire Chan and his strength
And 3racha as a whole is so Talented!!
The future of 3 racha will be a big thing 😎
One of the best producers😎
I can't express how excited I am to see their growth 💙
They are the best producers
When he fall asleep while sitting omg. I am sad and proud at the same time .. This is my first time watching this .. no wonder they are really respect him as a hyung and leader .. skz deserves more
Stray kids the first Idol group that I freaking bought an Album and is trying to collect all of their albums.
chan motivates me to work harder everyday
I really want to meet Chanie, shake him up and say :"Please, you nEED to rest well!!!!!!!!"
after 3 years he don't sleep instead makes masterpieces
@I'm tryin i am literally so happy that u wrote this he is my inspiration too like he really needs rest sometimes he overworks himself and chan's room is really so comforting it's hard to be a idol
man i caan't do this even for one day
@I'm tryin aww no problem, stays got your back 🖤💓
@I'm tryin U know that's what i love about kpop fandoms we all are connected like a family i myself have my best friend who is army (i am an armystay) and when i talked to her it feels like so damn good and it makes me feel we all are similar divided by borders connected by music
@I'm tryin u are talking about stays?
pov: i am from 2021 and i am crying bcs i am so proud of them, they have achieved so much now :))
This is why I'm going to support them till the end. I'm proud to be a stay.
I really like their songs and sometimes I try to rap hehehe
*stray kids really are one of a kind. And I couldn't be more proud to call them my ultimate group.*
Boi, he is the best human in the earth, I swear.
He works really hard, doesn't sleep correctly and takes care of all the members. He is also sweet, always hugs everyone and makes them laugh. He trained for seven fucking years, he helps members with EVERYTHING and he apologized after crying when they won in the Japan MAMA awards. And, let's remember he is VERY young.
Stray Kids and their leader deserve all those trophies, all the Stay's love and they also deserve a long break.
I think Christopher Bang is the best leader we could wish for.
We need to protect leader bang chan like he is working himself out until all hours of the morning to produce music for us we don’t deserve him he need sleep and he needs to rest but he won’t because he doesn’t want to let stays down and nothing he does will ever let me down so please we need to protect him
#protectleaderbangchan
This was actually the best group I've ever stan tho even I liked Twice the best back then, now they're the same level with stray kids. Stray kids has been producing their own songs while jyp was like "just let me do it" in all in
Wow, for real now, I've been 3racha/produce line biased since the beginning and i'm really proud of them rn, stray kids present the work but who really works hard? 3racha line, i'm so grateful for them. You may be Hyunjin or Felix biased but never forget what 3racha does for us. Rest well guys! Stray Kids forever