So many powers of 2!!

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ความคิดเห็น • 94

  • @virajagr
    @virajagr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I thought of it as resistors. If 2 resistors having value x and y are in parallel, then x•y is basically their net resistance. Now consider 2020 resistors having resistance 2¹,2²,2³.....2²⁰²⁰. Then the 2²⁰¹⁹•2²⁰²⁰ (= r say) gives net resistance between resistors R2019 and R2020. Then 2²⁰¹⁸•r gives net resistance between R2018 and the obtained net resistance. Doing this, we finally get net resistance of the whole circuit. But we also know that net resistance for a parallel connection would be → 1/R = 1/R1 + 1/R2 .... 1/R2020. And net resistance should be same irrespective of the procedure. Hence the question is same as 1/(1/2¹ + 1/2² +.... 1/2²⁰²⁰)

    • @rajchandak8712
      @rajchandak8712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wow insane!

    • @virajagr
      @virajagr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rajchandak8712 thanks:)

    • @dhruvanaidu9738
      @dhruvanaidu9738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol i didn't think of them as resistors but i also concluded it was 1/(1/2¹ + 1/2² +.... 1/2²⁰²⁰)

    • @skwbusaidi
      @skwbusaidi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. That equation make me think of resisters in parallel

    • @jayantsingh3078
      @jayantsingh3078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@virajagr hey bro ,u nailed 👍

  • @leickrobinson5186
    @leickrobinson5186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    For the second solution, I feel like Mike did it the hard way. The definition can be rewritten as:
    1/(x•y) = 1/x + 1/y
    (where I’m using • for the circle operator)
    But this immediately gives you the associativity relation:
    1/(x•(y•z)) = 1/x + 1/(y•z)
    = 1/x + 1/y + 1/z
    which gives us the same result (but more quickly and easily, I think). :-D

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That claim is also easier to prove than the second claim in the video

  • @DavidEhmCee
    @DavidEhmCee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ah the parallel operator. In electronics, for two resistors R1 and R2 placed in parallel the effective resistance is given by this operator, which we usually write as R = R1 || R2. The usual definition of the operator in electronics is 1/(R1 || R2) = 1/R1 + 1/R2 which leads pretty quickly to the second solution you presented.

  • @redstridetechnologies9400
    @redstridetechnologies9400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reminds me of finding the focal point passing through many lenses

  • @joshuatilley1887
    @joshuatilley1887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The operation o is not defined on all reals/rationals, since the denominator could vanish, so restrict to the non-negative reals. In this case the operation o on (0,∞) is isomorphic to addition on (0,∞) by the map f(x)=x^-1, i.e. f(x+y)=f(x)of(y). Hence, we can translate the problem into finding the well known sum of the sequence 2^-n, and then inverting the result.

    • @joshuatilley1887
      @joshuatilley1887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another thing we can see from this is that 1o2o3o...on is the reciprocal of the nth Harmonic number H_n :)

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First observation out of the box: That definition of the ○ operator, is simply the harmonic sum.
    x○y = xy/(x+y)
    1/(x○y) = 1/x + 1/y
    So that operator is associative,* and the target expression becomes simply:
    1/[∑ᵢ₌₁²⁰²⁰(2ˉ ͥ)] = 1/[1 - 2ˉ²⁰²⁰] = (2²⁰²⁰/[2²⁰²⁰ - 1]) = 1 + 1/[2²⁰²⁰ - 1]
    And that's a good place to stop.
    * Any operator ○, for which
    f(x ○ y) = f(x) + f(y)
    where f is a monotonic function, is associative, because
    f([x ○ y] ○ z) = f(x ○ y) + f(z)
    = f(x) + f(y) + f(z)
    = f(x) + f(y ○ z) = f(x ○ [y ○ z])
    And since f is monotonic, you can apply its inverse to both ends to obtain
    [x ○ y] ○ z = x ○ [y ○ z]
    In the current case, f(x) = 1/x, which is monotonic for x > 0.
    Fred

  • @Fun_maths
    @Fun_maths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I cant believe it, I actually solved the problem!

  • @sadistfcfm
    @sadistfcfm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the generalization of this fórmula towards Infinity is much more beautiful. Even more considering it is actually equal to 1.

  • @sil1235
    @sil1235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I did this by induction from the other side. First by showing that x o (y o z) = (x o y) o z, so the operation is associative and we dont need to care about the brackets. Then we evaluate 2 o 2^2 = 4/3, 2 o 2^2 o 2^3 = 8/7, and so on, and conjecture 2 o 2^2 o ... o 2^n = 2^n/(2^n-1). Then we prove that by induction.

  • @aleksgnatenko7799
    @aleksgnatenko7799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A little bit lazier approach: (x o y) = xy / (x + y) => 1/(x o y) = 1/x + 1/y and then 1/(2^1 o ( 2^2 o (..... o 2^2020) = 1/2 + 1/(2^2) + ... 1/(2^2020)

  • @bndrcr82a08e349g
    @bndrcr82a08e349g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice operator for composing parallel resistors

  • @esauce8920
    @esauce8920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hey Micheal! Few days ago I came up with a possibly good problem. It might be very easy or very tough. Please consider it!
    Problem: A number n is called plottable if n point can be plotted in the plane such that the distance between any two points is an integer. Determine all such plottable points.
    Another Problem is: There are n fixed points/locations assigned to n individual cameramen in a plane. Each cameramen has a camera that can capture a photo of 90 degree range. The cameramen who captures the most cameramen wins. Determine the minimum no. of people in the winner's photo for every n. (3 collinear cameramen count in the picture as 3)

    • @VaradMahashabde
      @VaradMahashabde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well all numbers are plottable if you keep all points on a straight line

    • @dejremi8190
      @dejremi8190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just realised that and saw someone noticed it too. May I suggest an amelioration to the problem. It may be interesting to look at the case where no three points are aligned!

    • @l1mbo69
      @l1mbo69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VaradMahashabde he probably just forgot to mention the restriction

    • @sabouedcleek611
      @sabouedcleek611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think all cases except n = 1 is 1 for the second problem. If you put all the cameraman in a straight line and have them all look perpendicular to the line except for one, which stands behind one of the cameramen, then the only person who captures any cameramen is sole person out of the line, who captures 1 person.

  • @gabrielalem123
    @gabrielalem123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W! In electricity, this is the parallel of n resistors:
    R1//R2//...//Rn = 1/(1/R1+1/R2+...+1/Rn)

  • @moshadj
    @moshadj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the extra dots after the (2^{n-1} \circ 2^n) term have me shook.

  • @elaadt
    @elaadt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a problem to which I can actually follow the entire solution.

  • @paulchapman8023
    @paulchapman8023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sum of any two fractions with a numerator of 1 is equal to the sum of the denominators over the product of the denominators: 1/a + 1/b = (a + b)/(ab). The operation in this video is the reciprocal of that.

  • @nadonadia2521
    @nadonadia2521 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second solution is better then the first, thank you.

  • @Kkkkkkk-d8k
    @Kkkkkkk-d8k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please make more geometry videos

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    20:11

  • @LiangLao2
    @LiangLao2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    first, we know x o (y o z) = (x o y) o z, and let S=2¹o2²o2³...o2²⁰²⁰, also 2^n o 2^n=2^(n-1), also easy to check S o2²⁰²⁰=1, then solve it.

  • @nournote
    @nournote 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn't that called the harmonic mean?

  • @rikhalder5708
    @rikhalder5708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice problem with nice solve. Awesome.

  • @rhythmmandal3377
    @rhythmmandal3377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    looks like harmonic mean divided by number if elements, so 1/sum(1/2^k, 1, 2020)

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Immediately i notice: xy/(x+y) is the harmonic sum, which like the regular sum is fully associative and commutative. Therefore this is 1/sum of 2^-x, from 1 to n. Therefore we get 1/(2^2021-2).

    • @MrRyanroberson1
      @MrRyanroberson1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was in a rush and didnt properly account for the numerator

  • @hamsterdam1942
    @hamsterdam1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:01 Michael Penn out of context

  • @RockBrentwood
    @RockBrentwood 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:20 A priori, we *do* know that it is associative, as well as commutative, since a∘b = f⁻¹(f(a) + f(b)), here f(x) = 1/x and that all such operations inherit their properties from those of the base operator "+". We also know that it is homogeneous to the first degree, so that we may write
    2ⁿ∘2ⁿ⁺¹ = 2ⁿ(1∘2) = 2ⁿ·(2/3) = 2ⁿ·(2¹/(2²-1)),
    2ⁿ∘2ⁿ⁺¹∘2ⁿ⁺² = 2ⁿ(1∘2(1∘2)) = 2ⁿ(1∘2(2¹/(2²-1))) = 2ⁿ·4/7 = 2ⁿ·(2²/(2³-1))
    2ⁿ∘2ⁿ⁺¹∘2ⁿ⁺²∘2ⁿ⁺³ = 2ⁿ(1∘2(2²/(2³-1))) = 2ⁿ·(2³/(2⁴-1))

    with the pattern both clear and easily established by an inductive argument. Thus
    2¹∘2²∘⋯∘2²⁰¹⁹∘2²⁰²⁰ = 2¹·(2²⁰¹⁹/(2²⁰²⁰-1)) = 2²⁰²⁰/(2²⁰²⁰-1).

  • @manfredwitzany2233
    @manfredwitzany2233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I solved this problem ba assuming resistors in parallel. As known, this problem becomes very simple, switching to coductivities instead of resitances. Conductivities of resistors in parallel just add. Therefore I considered 1 over the definition equation: 1/(x o y) = xy/(x+y)=1/x+1/y. Now substituing 1/x and 1/y by x' and 1/y by y' leads to a simple sum of negative powers of 2, which simplifies as shown.

  • @mathiashudobadebadyn4236
    @mathiashudobadebadyn4236 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the chalk not break constantly with such large traps?

  • @ahmetyasyilmaz
    @ahmetyasyilmaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Math is love math is life.

  • @vishalmishra3046
    @vishalmishra3046 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is simple. (x.y)^-1 = 1/(x.y) = 1/x+1/y = x^-1 + y^-1. Therefore, Answer^-1 = 2^-1 + 2^-2 + ... 2^-n = (2^-1) x (1 - 2^-(n-1+1))/(1-2^-1) = 1 - 2^-n = 1 - 2^-n = 1 - 2^-2020. Therefore, Answer = 2^n/(2^n-1) = 2^2020 / (2^2020 - 1).

  • @ВасилийТёркин-к8х
    @ВасилийТёркин-к8х 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the first thing I checked is (x°y)°z and check if is this symmetric. And G as 2^2020/Σ

  • @ErmisSouldatos
    @ErmisSouldatos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Things that are permanent in life:
    Taxes
    Death
    Queen Elizabeth
    *THE 2^n IN THE NUMERATOR*

  • @yahav897
    @yahav897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually solved the problem!! I feel so happy!

  • @videolome
    @videolome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Let F(x)=1/x.
    Then F(x o y)=F(x) + F(y).
    Your claim follows...

    • @mrminer071166
      @mrminer071166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You, sir, are a born trouble-maker.

  • @darshagarwal8307
    @darshagarwal8307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question would be better solved if use Geometric progression in the denominator

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took me a while, but I finally figured it out via induction. Had to show associativity first, much easier to work up from 1 than down from n. Okay, now to enjoy your video :)

    • @txikitofandango
      @txikitofandango 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But I appreciate learning how to induce downwards with n - k (duh in retrospect)

  • @Bodyknock
    @Bodyknock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem also comes out looking pretty when you look at the numbers in binary (base 2). For instance, in binary, the problem is evaluating 1 o (10 o (100 o ... o (10^(2019 base 10) o 10^(2020 base 10))...) = 10^(2020 base 10) / (1 + 10 + 100 + ... + 10^(2020 base 10)). But notice that the denominator in binary is just 111...1111 with 2020 ones, and it's immediately apparent that this number is, in binary, simply 1000...0000 with 2020 zeros minus 1, or 10^(2021 base 10) - 1.
    You get a similar look in the second part of the video when evaluating 1/(1/10 + 1/100 + 1/1000 + ... + 1/10^2020). Notice in binary that denominator is just 0.1111...111 with 2020 ones, so it's obviously 1 - 0.000...0001 with 2020 zeroes. Thus the original sum is 1/(1 - 0.000...0001).

  • @tgx3529
    @tgx3529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is 2019 steps.
    First step is 2^2019 *1/[1+1/2].
    Second step 2^2018*1/[1+3/4].
    Third step 2^2017*1/[1+7/8]....
    Finaly step 2^1*1/[1+((2^2019)-1)/2^2019))=2^2020/((2^2020) -1

  • @Silent_300
    @Silent_300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suggested simpler way to present the solution
    2^n o (2^(n+m)/z) = 2^(n+m) / (z + 2^m)
    Apply this formula from the last term and going backward
    2¹ o 2² o 2³ o ... o 2²⁰²⁰ = 2²⁰²⁰ / (1 + 2 + 2² + 2³ + .. + 2^2019) = 2²⁰²⁰ / ( 2²⁰²⁰ -1 )

  • @tonyhaddad1394
    @tonyhaddad1394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This problem is cool but easy

  • @tonyhaddad1394
    @tonyhaddad1394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that a good place to stop !!😁

  • @hans-juergenbrasch3683
    @hans-juergenbrasch3683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First, note the identity (@) (kx) o (ky)=k(x o y) and set T(n)=2^1 o (2^2 o...o(2^(n-1) o 2^n)...) for n>1, in particular T(2)=4/3 and we have to determine T(2020). Using (@) we get for n>2 the expression
    2^2 o...o(2^(n-1) o 2^n)...)=2T(n-1), i.e. T(n)=2 o (2T(n-1))=2T(n-1)/(1+T(n-1)). Now easy induction on n>1 yields T(n)=2^n/(2^n-1), so T(2020)=2^2020/(2^2020-1)

  • @mihaipuiu6231
    @mihaipuiu6231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful....prove.

  • @user-A168
    @user-A168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @cauchy2012
    @cauchy2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this recurance?
    I don't inderstand this method

    • @zaidjanati03
      @zaidjanati03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes induction in English is "recurrence" in French

    • @cauchy2012
      @cauchy2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah, OK I understand tnx

    • @keedt
      @keedt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      induction is a proof technique, recurrence is a feature of algorithms or definitions

  • @phenomenalphysics3548
    @phenomenalphysics3548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what does 2 DOUBLE factorial mean? (2!!)

    • @gabrielciccufalconlins4219
      @gabrielciccufalconlins4219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      n!! is the product of all even integers from 1 to n if n is even, and the product of all odd integers from 1 to n if n is odd. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_factorial

  • @georgemissailidis3160
    @georgemissailidis3160 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    so many powers of 2!!? Well sir, you didn't have to write 2 double factorial. :)
    *edit:* btw i think ur missing a bracket when writing out 2¹•(2²•(2³•...))

  • @Tiqerboy
    @Tiqerboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a dog @ 5:58

    • @abcharri
      @abcharri 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He might already know that

  • @Tiqerboy
    @Tiqerboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A king proposes to one of his prisoners. I'm going to start with a billion dollars and multiply that by half that amount and then divide the number by these two sums. You can either take that money and run, after you pay me $50 to get out of prison, or you can let the money ride, where we repeat the process the following day. We'll take that amount and multiply it by half that amount and then divide by the sum of these two amounts. You can take the money at any time or simply wait until the end of the month and then I'll give you the final total.
    The prisoner, licking his chops, figures if he stays in the prison until the end of the month he'll bankrupt the kingdom. With each passing day he dreams how he'll spend this ever growing windfall.
    On the last day of the month the prisoner says to the king with an evil grin "give me my money, you sucker!". The king reaches into his wallet, pulls out a crisp one dollar bill. Wait what?! Go get yourself a coffee and donut at the commissary, sorry it's not enough to buy the get of jail free card.

  • @dirac17
    @dirac17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, I didn't like this problem...

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace355 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does the ellipsis after (2^2019 ○ 2^2020) mean? Don't we stop at 2020 ?

    • @boristerbeek319
      @boristerbeek319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's for all the closing parentheses

    • @neilgerace355
      @neilgerace355 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boristerbeek319 ah, thanks

  • @marchaustein1429
    @marchaustein1429 ปีที่แล้ว

    2^8×10^3 subscribers🎉

  • @Wurfenkopf
    @Wurfenkopf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "A priori we do not know if it's associative or not"
    Excuse me, but isn't the associative property a corollary of the commutative property?

    • @stephenbeck7222
      @stephenbeck7222 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily. There exist binary operations which are commutative but not associative. For example, f(x,y)=(x+y)/2. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutative_property

  • @shohamsen8986
    @shohamsen8986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CMU\m/

  • @Lionroarr
    @Lionroarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    T