Why no one wants to collab with you
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- We all want to collaborate with our favorite artists, but before we send that fire emoji riddled DM, let's ask ourselves a couple questions that might just save us some time and heartache.
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0:00 - Collab bro?
0:55 - Why to collaborate (and why not to)
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Hey man, can I rap over this? 🔥🔥🔥
Always
I hadn't considered the idea of suggesting zoom calls with folks. That's a great idea.
Ruh roh someone's going to be drowning in zoom call requests very soon 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What I really appreciate about this video is that you are arguing for excellence. I think that's fantastic because we live in an era of surface over substance. I just started making music a few years ago. Am I excellent at music? Not YET. So no collabs. Yet. But in the years to come - that is one of the goals. I am putting in the time. Building the skills. I think people jump the gun, when they should be putting in the time. Your channel has excellence (as well as self-effacement, lol) as a consistent theme and I am here for it!
That backgrownd music! it's a fit for unsolved mysteries. 🔥🔥🔥
I see the fire in your eyes!
Oh wait, those are the ring lights.
But I love your work too. :) Keep 'em coming!
Hahaha the Olafur DM at the end got me 😂
I've made Genuine friends with other artists and (guitar)builders and collectors and even though I am not at their level and could never collab, they are super kind and always offer great advice.
Collab "offers" vanish instantly when you tell them you don`t use a DAW 😀
As always...Another great post!
Always great advice sir
Seriously though, mutual respect and love of each other's music is key to a good collaboration. I love collaborating with others, as it allows the music to go to places it wouldn't get to if it was just me. Also defining boundaries and what you want from the other person at the outset helps loads. You still have to give the other artists space to do their thing, but let them know what you want from them
In January I caught a track of this amazing artist Grey Ghost and reached out to him , he check out the beats and raps I laid and was like bruh we need to collab. Have done 40 tracks since then and have became really good friends
You legend🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥... Seriously though, you are a legend🥰
Back atcha my friend. Thanks for allowing me to use your image and likeness for this one 😅
I low-key wanna get on this beat 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I was just thinking the other week that people don't do bands anymore , it has several reasons which I can count , and probably some more.
1. its so easy to record music these days that one person can almost do it all (although arguably is it Good that one person do it all artistically?)
2. no one is going to do small gigs with their expensive\vintage synths
3. it requires deep collaboration and partnership , something that humans are not capable of anymore ?
I would like to hear your opinion and assessment on this issue
I think there’s truth to what you’ve listed here, but as you say, there are a lot of factors. I think where you live and whether there are any people in your circle that share musical taste and vision has a lot to do with it. Music is highly personal and while I love collaborating, I also love making things on my own. I think it’s good to do both.
Comment section is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 today.
kinda funny that it's not hard to imagine some Dalek-style rapping over your latest single :) would be a good fit actually
Thanks for another great video. Do you mind sharing how you and Ben worked out the financial side of what you are doing? I get a lot of collab requests but most of the time the people who hit me up want me to work for nothing. How did you guys work this out since you are both such talented artists in your own right?
Sudent: Master, what will it take for me to become as good as you?
Master: Time, and time again.
Student: Time and time again what?
Loved the exit at 8:30 😜
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This story became a colab bromance... Good stuff.
I have always wished I could link up with a friend with similar tastes or a mentor to go through the journey with me. Not even collaboration; just sharing in the journey. Music production gets lonely af. People you look up to ignore you (because you're just another bro, and they don't have time to respond to everything). If your music sucks, people whose opinion you care about will say or do things that they don't realize stab you in the heart even when aiming for a compliment -- e.g., "I like this part; it sounds like that song on that pharmaceutical commercial." Presumably (I wouldn't know), if your music is amazing, people will kiss your ass and who knows who your real friends are anymore.
If you do get lucky and make friends with someone that has some interest, they are probably into some weird reggae jazz or something -- not your totally normal style that only a few people, like you, are into... So, you always end up kind of talking around each other.
I've joined discord channels of people I like, like Bound to Divide, and tried to be a positive active member in such places. But despite the quantity of people, I've never made quality connections.
Fortunately, this is just a passion for me and not a profession, or I'd probably be in a dark place about it.
Hey, are you a big fan of Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross soundtracks?
Because, the music of the background made me feel a similar feeling as some of the Social Network pieces (I mean that in the most respectful and flattering intention, I’m a HUGE fan of theirs).
I’m enjoying you Music Marketing series of videos!
Guilty as charged haha
Thanks so much!
I found a bug in TH-cam. Sometimes you can't see some comments until change sorting type to date added.🤔
I feel like one day we will collab. I'm not even joking. One day...
So fire!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So money!! 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
So fetch … … … 😶 Nah, that’s never gonna ‘happen’ …
I left so many kind comments under your videos so you should invite me to colab 🔥🔥🔥 (Just joking) Would be interesting a video on how actual colab is happening (between you two as example) because I have noidea how it looks like 🤣 I was thinking about colabs some time ago but I left this idea after realizing that someone should INVITE me to colab because in other way it's just someone will spend time on me to give me few of their listeners/subscribers which is nonsense 🤭
Good conversation but was Ben going with the one eye 👁️ symbolism?
I think he was going with the “this would be a cool photo and allow my friend to photoshop some cartoon drumsticks into my hand”
@@JamesonNathanJones all good just have to be careful these days most music if full of that imagery I know it helps the algorithm but yeah
What is that background track? It's 🔥..... but seriously, what is?
Thanks! Which one?
@@JamesonNathanJones 7:46 it's so good!
It’s called “All Things Repeat” and is available on all the music places :)
@@JamesonNathanJones thanks! New subscriber. Love the channel (even though I'm a guitar player 👀) and looking to get some of your music on bandcamp as well!
Really appreciate that, and welcome! :)
also you are kind of self-sabotaging your TH-cam prospects imo , nobody likes a showoff.
I'm not your agent or anything but If you did have an agent then this is what he would say .
likeability is far superior to anything else you may appreciate .
personally I do appreciate where you are coming from but that's very .. old-school
not sure schooling your TH-cam viewers will get you anything ..
btw do you have any courses online you offer ?
The whole point of the channel is just to share my experiences, because that’s the only thing I have authority to speak on. I’m curious what aspects of the video you perceived as showing off? I tried to make it clear that I’ve been on both sides of this situation, and I do truly believe everything I said in the video. I personally think that authenticity is more important than anything when building trust with an audience.
I don’t claim to be a world-renowned artist, but I might be a step or two ahead of someone else and hopefully that will be helpful for someone.
@@JamesonNathanJones
that's so old school , its the internet you have authority to speak on whatever you like and then some.
I'm sure your attitude will have respect among other professional musicians and artists and if that's your number one priority then be my guest. for many others a youtube channel is a means to earn some dough for content creation where "content creation" is a very broad term ..
I must say there is a stark contrast between this "professional artist" attitude and your sometimes self-depreciating jokes.
No, I strongly disagree. The ability to speak on whatever one would like via the internet absolutely does not give one authority to speak on that subject. Authority is built through experience and a continued pursuit of mastery in a field.
As for this channel, I don’t care about having the largest audience, but rather the right audience.
@@solarion33 It shows that Jameson does what he "preaches". I think the ability to assess ones talents and capabilities makes a good artist. Imho you can undoubtably hear the professionalism in his music even though you may not like it.
I would rate his music as high as eg. Jon Hopkins or Rival Consoles. Both are respected artists and have the luck to be on well curated labels.
I like this honest approach way much more than some "marketing ploy" of being nice for the sake of business tactics.
It would be very interesting to see what pays off longterm.
@@IvoSiem
you can be honest and direct in your own professional and private life by all means imo .. in the "public" domain and as long as you don't have like 50k subs you better not make too harsh assersions ..
take Ben Jordan for example , for a long time I and probably many other people only knew him as a youtube guy covering all kinds of music and production related stuff ... its only quite recently probably last year or so that he merged his professional life with his youtube persona ..but only after he got a substantial following ..
in this spirit its my opinion that its better not to put the cart before the horse ..
but then again I'm just a guy with an opinion
🥬🥬🥬 > 🔥🔥🔥 all day.
I’m glad someone noticed the cameo. Much like the excellent filmmakers you work with, I like to think that I’m creating a world with living characters (or produce as it were)….. 😅