I read the notes and I was really annoyed because they were talking about how challenging the character was but then they give him an instant tornado that hurts less and is punishable. Honestly, I've never used F4 other than random keepout so when I saw its i15 I was actually pleasantly surprised that he can punish rage arts now. This is actually huge.
Dope breakdown brother! I always count on you for the quick and detailed yet digestible breakdowns of all things patch updates with Raven! I'mma check this out tonight. I was super juiced with the Character Main Menu update haha. Good stuff man!
Thank God they changed that cause that heat burst shit was pissing me off. Characters like law would pop heat mid combo when their opponent are literally touching the ground and still get the pop up, Raven on the other hand, the opponent would be in the air still and miss.
The first place that comes to mind when there are info or updates about Raven is here, Immortal thanks for keeping Raven relevant and representing at high tier 100% agree with your assessment and your closing comments about his back-turn shortcomings. I’ve found that Raven down back 4 often whiff, and I’ve never heard anyone comment about it, Is it’s my bad timing, or smoke from the weed next door!!!
Finally! i15 launcher. However, we would super happy if we get Back turned throw or 3+4 F (Crouch Dash) 2 launcher like Master Raven. Well, I am still happy with anything that is buff on Raven in general.
Happy about this buff, but I was just thinking how I missed Master Raven 4,3 counter hit launch and now the backturn grabs. Raven needs more tools but this is a good start
@@Beedji I mean you hit these jumping moves but they don’t reward you at all. They just knock them down and make you go straight to oki. If they get up the right way, and ukemi left(whichever is in the background) you dodge 90% of his oki unless it’s a setup or a couple of moves. You’re essentially hitting a move and in reward giving up your turn for less than 20 damage. It makes the move undesirable to use compared to everything else. The only real use for it is a wall extender.
@@Beedji No, you do it on oki, they ukemi left and you lose your turn lol. Any move can hit, I probably use more of the movepool than most Ravens, but not all of them will make you feel like you did something right when you do them.
This is so sick, I was complaining to a friend about f4 not being as cool as Master Ravens one. I loved that move! Great to see it "back" lol. I'm gonna try to run some setups with f4 at max range into df4 for the chunky CH launcher. Btw, your Beatstars link seems to be broken!
Ive been tirelessly learning how to master Raven CH properties with ws2 and df2, sweating buckets and fighting for my life... NO MORE ! I will make all those Bryan players pay. All hail our f4 lord and savior.
Curious if this could have some application as a keepout move now as well. Not a fun thing to run into and will T! jump-in attacks as well. -12 but with that range... hard to punish
Every patch note is just straight up W for raven and I love it. I still want them to fix his sabaki but we are walking in the right direction so I can't complain
@@imortalXsoul it can punish deathfist at close / mid range. No bueno against demoman (leaves raven at 2.95 range). Ff3 | f2,3 | f3,2 cannot punish it either. I have luck with Ff2 sometimes. They could make f1+2 i17 and it would resolve the issue...
@@dark1810 Yoshi has sidestep moves. Like all of them. (Which is why I couldn’t despite trying to work on Raven for a while). It feels so incomplete without sidestep moves. Fricking give the ninja more moves, T8!!!
🗣️RAVEN CLAN STAND UP🚨!! WE EATING 🥷🏾🔥🔥‼️ Great breakdown per usual Soul, you the MVP as always 💪🏾
thanks bro!
@@imortalXsoul Of course brotha!! You’re so welcome
what are you eating sir?
Bro, I'm so happy. We finally have a proper RA punish in addition to a solid whiff punisher. WIN!!!
facts, super stoked about this change!
.. some characters still don't have a proper ra punish 😢
@Justlookingaround19 what other character doesn't have a standing launcher?
@@nickhall7995 zafina and steve to name a couple that can't launch rage arts
@@imortalXsoul Lol now zafina is now the only weird character in my opinion Steve gets a pass
Finally, Raven is a normal character
4:53 finally got a easy mode move
@@finnz7786 😂😂😂
Yeah this is kind reminds of Bryans straigh punch launcher as a keep away bait YEAH WE GONNA BE COOKIN WITH RAVEN
Also at the wall. It's much easier to do a tournado. Instead of qcf motion we can just do a forward motion.
it's easier but results in less damage
@@imortalXsoul yea about 2 less damage.
Id take that honestly qcf be hurtin my feelns at the wall@@dayside
@@finnz7786 yea same. i drop it all the time after df1,4 wall bound. I'd take 2 less damage for easy mode tornado.
not being able to do qcf is crazy
I read the notes and I was really annoyed because they were talking about how challenging the character was but then they give him an instant tornado that hurts less and is punishable. Honestly, I've never used F4 other than random keepout so when I saw its i15 I was actually pleasantly surprised that he can punish rage arts now. This is actually huge.
Dope breakdown brother! I always count on you for the quick and detailed yet digestible breakdowns of all things patch updates with Raven! I'mma check this out tonight. I was super juiced with the Character Main Menu update haha. Good stuff man!
it’s so good especially with his preset 4!!!
Thank God they changed that cause that heat burst shit was pissing me off. Characters like law would pop heat mid combo when their opponent are literally touching the ground and still get the pop up, Raven on the other hand, the opponent would be in the air still and miss.
facts
Raven looking good rn
The first place that comes to mind when there are info or updates about Raven is here, Immortal thanks for keeping Raven relevant and representing at high tier
100% agree with your assessment and your closing comments about his back-turn shortcomings.
I’ve found that Raven down back 4 often whiff, and I’ve never heard anyone comment about it, Is it’s my bad timing, or smoke from the weed next door!!!
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO ayoooo
Been taking a raven holiday to learn lee and improve fundamentals, but this is definitely making me want to hop back on 🔥🔥 great vid as always
Finally! i15 launcher.
However, we would super happy if we get Back turned throw or 3+4 F (Crouch Dash) 2 launcher like Master Raven. Well, I am still happy with anything that is buff on Raven in general.
Happy about this buff, but I was just thinking how I missed Master Raven 4,3 counter hit launch and now the backturn grabs. Raven needs more tools but this is a good start
@@chrishipop5 agreed, the should just buff bt d4 and give him better mobility out of stance (soulzone)
@@imortalXsoulthey should make all d4‘s -11 again and bt d4 should be plus on hit again
I need that rage drive back
I love that buff. 😎 The need to repurpose his up-forward and up-back 4 next.
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Wym i use those all the time on oki, it works so well 😥😥😥
@@Beedji I mean you hit these jumping moves but they don’t reward you at all. They just knock them down and make you go straight to oki. If they get up the right way, and ukemi left(whichever is in the background) you dodge 90% of his oki unless it’s a setup or a couple of moves. You’re essentially hitting a move and in reward giving up your turn for less than 20 damage. It makes the move undesirable to use compared to everything else. The only real use for it is a wall extender.
@@imeaniguess.6963 That's the trick though, you do it on oki, get a knock down, you go back to oki.... And do it again lmao
@@Beedji No, you do it on oki, they ukemi left and you lose your turn lol. Any move can hit, I probably use more of the movepool than most Ravens, but not all of them will make you feel like you did something right when you do them.
This is so sick, I was complaining to a friend about f4 not being as cool as Master Ravens one. I loved that move! Great to see it "back" lol. I'm gonna try to run some setups with f4 at max range into df4 for the chunky CH launcher.
Btw, your Beatstars link seems to be broken!
i took my beatstars down lmaooo wasnt using it. Thanks for letting me know!
Ive been tirelessly learning how to master Raven CH properties with ws2 and df2, sweating buckets and fighting for my life... NO MORE ! I will make all those Bryan players pay. All hail our f4 lord and savior.
lmfaooo
please!!! you have to do a new combo route guide for all the new potential combos.
live
Curious if this could have some application as a keepout move now as well. Not a fun thing to run into and will T! jump-in attacks as well. -12 but with that range... hard to punish
maybe, but it has a lot of whiff recovery
I was the only person asking for a 15f launch or to make b1 a mid. I knew one of those wouldn't happen lmao
0:26 they know he needs it
Thnx from Russian ravens! Everything is very clear and pleasant ❤
A historic moment, we need to mark this day on the calendar
lmfaoooo naw fr
@@imortalXsoul 😂😂
My fellow raven players all 10 of you stand tf up we got a serious buff baby
He needed it big time especially when compared to dev faves like Bryan.
Every patch note is just straight up W for raven and I love it. I still want them to fix his sabaki but we are walking in the right direction so I can't complain
i agree
Ill be happy with just BT D4
And deal with the force SZ moves
@@vchris8913 facts, they need to buff bt d4 lol
Need to check if f4 can punish demoman and deathfist. Previously it couldn't if spaced.
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@@imortalXsoul it can punish deathfist at close / mid range. No bueno against demoman (leaves raven at 2.95 range). Ff3 | f2,3 | f3,2 cannot punish it either. I have luck with Ff2 sometimes.
They could make f1+2 i17 and it would resolve the issue...
Thanks bro, informative video- love seeing Raven get some love in the update 🫡
@@lbryantl6543 thanks bro!
@imortalXsoul You bet. Even tho I'm a scrub I'm happy OG Raven is back in 8 and this is def a welcome addition! Keep it up man 🍻
We about to see an uptick it raven mains
Hope not we been in the trenches
OMG! an i15 launcher is the only thing I really wanted from Raven
I'm wondering if we can now consistently punish Paul's qcf2 🤔
What will you be using the df 4 now for?
nothing LOL
Huge
He will secretly creep up the tier list with these changes 😊
@@hands-ongaming7180 👀
Glad Raven finally has this... sad that's it's added long after I had to personally drop this game.
i15 launcher lets go
Hes a real character now lets climb ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Why do your button display in training have colors?
xbox
@@Sertyop10101 ah. Thought I'd missed a setting
its a PC mod
Thank god
The MVR (most valuable Raven) of the raven community
ty!
I love them.
me too!
I just got purple with Raven! I'm gonna be the next Hokage, I'M TELLIN YOU!!
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a very nice surprise.
agreed
F+4 max range is 2.8. insane
Yes sir!!
Does he have sidestep moves yet?
nah LOL
its tekken 8 no one has sidestep moves you have sidestep to getting a homing boot to the face but thats about it
@@dark1810except steve he be all over the damn stage
@@dark1810 Yoshi has sidestep moves. Like all of them. (Which is why I couldn’t despite trying to work on Raven for a while). It feels so incomplete without sidestep moves.
Fricking give the ninja more moves, T8!!!
Omg, now it will be easier to get to tekken king lol
lmaooo
Raven is gonna explode on everyones tierlist, just wait until everybody starts crying lmao
lmaoooo yeah....
Nice to see some positivity about this really fun game.
The T8 community discorse is pure cancer
@@EddieFonzarelli the game has potential, but i understand the worry for the game and direction 😅😅😅
@@imortalXsoul I see that.
Bruh I'm making Raven my no 1 main now
Ruh roh raggy
LESGOOOO
Tell me why Namco and NRS can make good balance patches, but Capcom can't
lmaoooooo kimberly is still trash
@@imortalXsoul Bro, they are purposely keeping her in the gutter. For no reason wtf
So Raven did need buffs
My jaw dropped seeing that. Pretty much made up for the rest of the patch being pretty underwhelming.
i actually liked the patch with all the QoL changes to training mode
Tbf fair every character the community was complaining about got damage nerfs, and more nerfs confimed for Drag
15f LAUNCH PUNISH ON RAVEN?!?!? IN THIS ECONOMY?!!?
Raven, we finally have a historically -15 delay catch Nice!
Same bro, I’m in bushin right now.
No way they gave raven a good ass buff
LMFAO 💀
HEAT HITBOX IS FIXED ????,?,?,,? for real ?
yessssss :D
@@imortalXsoul OMG yes it's so good !
@@Beedji i definitely feel it within combos for sure
Nobody ask for it, they should better change ff+4 to be -9 or as you mentioned return him BT throw mix up.
Raven is still low tier.
W f4
Why Ya'll hatin??? Don't whiff on Raven!
lmfaoooo
Humbly disagree. We’ve been asking for i15 launcher for years.
i'd rather bt d4 back tbh but this is great!
We finally can punish normally like the rest of the cast 🥲🥲🥲
facts