Who would win, infinite ability towers or 1 small recursive boi? Check out the race playlist for if you're interested in more of those: th-cam.com/play/PLcT6C3pFUi81YZgtMK2y2g6De12qNacgh.html
I like how he doesn’t even slightly clickbait here, he could have put “no cooldowns” and it would have been pretty much correct but instead he put “almost zero cooldowns”
@@user-ke1gn3ql1g yea most of the abilities last longer than 1/20 of their cooldown time so either way you get full uptime, it only helps with stashing more moab mines to protect you from dying
Challenges that are so micro heavy like this are pretty unfair to mobile players. I don't have too much issue with it since I enjoy the game being portable over leaderboards, but this challenge made it apparent.
@@arthurl4300 yeah, when it's recursive spam it isn't too bad. I just tried different strategies with the abilities for this one and it's a nightmare to keep track of them without hotkeys
11:23 probably the most important advice in this video, I'm so glad you finally said something about this because a lot of players don't seem to understand why we use the towers we use :) for all of you watching this video and reading this you really should take his advice on this, it works really well (and makes sense why, he's also right about why it's good to watch videos on TH-cam to help figure out the strat for obvious reasons). when I first started playing the game I had no idea what was good or worked well and got 16 minutes on my first race. now, 30 weeks later, I've learned a lot about what's good from each race and it gets a lot easier to find improvements to strats like tobis and I finally got my first good placement in the 31st race I played. (you can see me at 13:22 I'm wthnk with the 2:48 and later pushed to 2:42.63 which was 7th place but at one point I was worse at races than most of the people who watch isabs videos so if u take isab's advice you will get better, it's proven true for almost every top 50 racer :) btw i used that name in the game bc nk has goofed up many times and once they didn't remove hackers from one race for like 3 days so it was basically to send a message to nk asking "what the hell are you doing" lol
OMG The CEO of Lawrence Mr. Zhou has spoken. I don't even need to read your comment because you only say the same 3 things 500x every race and I doubt this comment is different.
If they make a race with almost 0 second cooldowns for abilities and no restrictions(which is probably not gonna happen), that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
@@Lawrence_Zhou yeah cause every race has gwen and mael enabled and gwens cocktail totally wouldnt be killed by pruples after next update because we'd need to send past 24 with such an early mael
so glad to see a race video again, and this time on an actually unique race idea and one that tests your skills well with a pretty challenging but still nice and not too limiting map, as well as a modifier that allows you to do stuff you normally couldn't do. also brickell buffing a sub start is stronger because boat cannot shoot from both sides and can't handle as early fo a r30 send
Now that you mentioned it I kinda miss challenge videos, especially now that NK is adding more content to the challenge editor I'm sure there are a lot of great ones.
yep easiest way to cleanup because you get a lot less time to cleanup the bfbs when they're not targetable for about 10 seconds while they're still in the trees
11:23 not Bloons related but in Minecraft understanding why the Pro Redstone people do things the way they do can go a long way Went from not knowing how to build farms to being able to build an Iron Farm and almost get a Raid Farm working without a guide (Trying to figure out a issue with the Pillagers Captain Spawning which is basically the thing holding me back RN)
just in this video probably already a crap ton, races give you 80 rounds of xp in like 2 minutes so if you play enough times to improve your time you will easily gain a lot, I think I gained about 12 million xp this week lol
ISAB: "You might think ballistic missiles with Brickell's permanent boost is amazing, but there is a tower called a recursive that is even better." Me, who got 1st place using ballistic missile spam: 🤔
lol so true, your strat was very nice, although I think he meant ballistic spam with almost no recursives. however tbf the ballistics do a great job because sub start and using ballistic to defend the moab allowed me to send short but harder rounds like 28 and 30 early and get recursives faster and buying a second ballistic during fullsend meant I was completely safe from dying
video ideas: ultimate cross pathing + everything is cluster mod or everything is maelstorm + almost zero cooldown or everything is cluster + seeking projectiles
it wouldn't make much of a difference for the abilities that were enabled except u would get much more moab mines and you use the first brickell ability at 0 seconds instead of 1
Most money making abilities are capped to a certain amount of usages per round to prevent regrow stalling to make infinite money Not sure if that would be as apparent for races tho
I am pretty sure when you alch buff the recursive the 0-2-5 is better and the alche buff 2-0-5 because of its attack speed so you should try both and see which one gets a better race time
yes 0-2-5 is better than 2-0-5 most of the time but isab didn't go for bomb blitz, the bombs were just 4th tier recursive clusters, and 2-0-4 has double the pierce and double the damage compared to 0-2-4, when you alch buff them the damage difference does dwindle (but is still significant) but the doubled pierce still means that 2-0-4 is better in races with the hyperclumped bloons, and the 0-2-4's attack speed is only 70% faster than 2-0-4 so it doesn't even come close to making up for the difference
It does beat it out in terms of raw DPS, but the difference lies in the fact that the top path increases pierce. That piece is more important than the DPS for the early stages, meaning the top path is ironically better here.
Wouldn't going 0-2-4 bombs have been better here since you were alch buffing them? Or is the DPS for those better than top path only with 4th tier alch?
no smh, 2-0-4 recursives have double the pierce which the hyperclumped race bloons always pierce cap (which an alchemist don't change), along with 50% more damage when both are alch buffed and a bigger blast radius, and the 65% attack increase from 0-2-4 doesn't even come close to making up for the difference why are y'all falling for hbomb's mythical vid which completely ignores races, try out a race yourself while using a 0-2-4 bomb to see how bad it is in races
spamming gwen would be super op, you could just sell and rebuy her and throw cocktails instantly and make enough money before purples come to get min time
no the buff stays for 5 seconds, then you rebuy it later to reapply the buff. selling it gives you money back to buy other towers in the meantime. the only downside is you need to perform a little more micro but it allows you to make much more money in less time which is more important
you are an average hbomb stan who believes everything that noob says, ignores our factual arguments, and 2-0-4 bomb is far superior in races due to its pierce
@@sunbleachedangel seems like you're just an average hbomb stan who believes all he says (many of them myths) and ignores everything we have to say hbomb completely ignored pierce in his vid, and pierce is everything in races since bloons are so clumped, and the 2-0-4 bomb has more than double the pierce (which even an alchemist wouldn't change much), in addition to the extra blast radius and damage (which an alchemist does kind of make up but it will remain a massive difference even with it), making it vastly superior in races
erm... plz fix your wording ninja kiwi! Ability cooldown RATE of 5% = the abilities take 20x as long to recharge. Ability cooldown TIME of 5% = the abilities recharge 20x as fast. I thought it was the former and hence didn't bother with towers with abilities.
Who would win, infinite ability towers or 1 small recursive boi?
Check out the race playlist for if you're interested in more of those: th-cam.com/play/PLcT6C3pFUi81YZgtMK2y2g6De12qNacgh.html
Yes
1 small recursive
Why is this commment 1 hour ago? But it just pisted 50 seconds ago?
How are you doing
@@kiancambil he commented on it before it was public
I like how he doesn’t even slightly clickbait here, he could have put “no cooldowns” and it would have been pretty much correct but instead he put “almost zero cooldowns”
Good. Much less comments saying the same thing this way.
true, zero cooldowns isn't a possible modifier in the game
I wouldn't even consider that clickbaity tbh even if he did just put "no cooldowns"
@@user-ke1gn3ql1g yea most of the abilities last longer than 1/20 of their cooldown time so either way you get full uptime, it only helps with stashing more moab mines to protect you from dying
@AirLight 5% is not 0% and 0% is none
Fun fact: If you go to playlists on this channel, the BTD6 playlist now has reached 1k videos
I asked + Ratio
thats dedication
Hmm I wonder what ISAB always uploads 🤔
@@CMP7778 Same, i m pretty sure he's a fort nite youtuber
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really cool to see that NK is trying to make more unique abilities
modifiers*
Imagine ABR on muddy pudles race. That would be interesting
Challenges that are so micro heavy like this are pretty unfair to mobile players. I don't have too much issue with it since I enjoy the game being portable over leaderboards, but this challenge made it apparent.
Races in general are very unfair to mobile so whatever
@@sunbleachedangel The pause delay helps a bit
Theres not that hard of micro to beat this though? Maybe fast upgrades and round starting but you can get pretty good times without too much effort
@@arthurl4300 yeah, when it's recursive spam it isn't too bad. I just tried different strategies with the abilities for this one and it's a nightmare to keep track of them without hotkeys
They should honestly put mobile players and pc players on separate leaderboards so it keeps it more fair
11:23 probably the most important advice in this video, I'm so glad you finally said something about this because a lot of players don't seem to understand why we use the towers we use :) for all of you watching this video and reading this you really should take his advice on this, it works really well (and makes sense why, he's also right about why it's good to watch videos on TH-cam to help figure out the strat for obvious reasons). when I first started playing the game I had no idea what was good or worked well and got 16 minutes on my first race. now, 30 weeks later, I've learned a lot about what's good from each race and it gets a lot easier to find improvements to strats like tobis and I finally got my first good placement in the 31st race I played. (you can see me at 13:22 I'm wthnk with the 2:48 and later pushed to 2:42.63 which was 7th place but at one point I was worse at races than most of the people who watch isabs videos so if u take isab's advice you will get better, it's proven true for almost every top 50 racer :) btw i used that name in the game bc nk has goofed up many times and once they didn't remove hackers from one race for like 3 days so it was basically to send a message to nk asking "what the hell are you doing" lol
So true
OMG The CEO of Lawrence Mr. Zhou has spoken. I don't even need to read your comment because you only say the same 3 things 500x every race and I doubt this comment is different.
Omg it’s Baumfall
Thanks for the shoutout! This means a lot to me ❤️
This start wasn't even that great but good enough for t50 i guess.
I'm really happy for you! You make really good guides. deserved the shout-out
Yooo Tobi-your guides are so helpful, thanks bro 😎
If they make a race with almost 0 second cooldowns for abilities and no restrictions(which is probably not gonna happen), that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
That’s just straight up BTD5
it would just be whoever affords maelstrom the earliest wins or u just spam gwen level 3 until u can afford mael and then everyone gets min time
@@Lawrence_Zhou yeah cause every race has gwen and mael enabled and gwens cocktail totally wouldnt be killed by pruples after next update because we'd need to send past 24 with such an early mael
@@piusherbert well the original comment said no restrictions so thats why I said that
@@piusherbert "no restrictions"
so glad to see a race video again, and this time on an actually unique race idea and one that tests your skills well with a pretty challenging but still nice and not too limiting map, as well as a modifier that allows you to do stuff you normally couldn't do. also brickell buffing a sub start is stronger because boat cannot shoot from both sides and can't handle as early fo a r30 send
OMG LZ
Ceo of discrimination:O
LZ
I love how ISAB is so tripped up by having mainly played Battles the past 2 months that he’s been calling new rounds bloon sends
I mean, he does send the bloons though, no?
Bloon sends is the correct way to refer to race round sends.
In races you manually send the rounds, so why not call it bloon sends?
Now that you mentioned it I kinda miss challenge videos, especially now that NK is adding more content to the challenge editor I'm sure there are a lot of great ones.
Artillery do be jitter clicking that button tho...
First Strike destroying everything: I am speeeeed
yep easiest way to cleanup because you get a lot less time to cleanup the bfbs when they're not targetable for about 10 seconds while they're still in the trees
Hes so used to laser shock on rocket storm that he bought it in the race instintually.
New years to ya Isab, really glad that you could enjoy it with us
I would have tried 0-4-0 sniper ability
Fun fact about the M.A.D if you use its ability sell it quickly get another M.A.D the ability will still be active
I’ve just realized races are just btd battles games you play against yourself
Isab’s bad time is still half what my best could accomplish
Battles 2 Isab 4:15
thanks isab since the godboosted adora stream i became wordle addicted.........
Another great video, Mr. I Suck At Battles
CONGRATS ON 1K BTD6 VIDEOS!!!
Late to the party here ISAB, but super happy to see more btd6 content back again. Thanks for all the work you put in
11:23 not Bloons related but in Minecraft understanding why the Pro Redstone people do things the way they do can go a long way Went from not knowing how to build farms to being able to build an Iron Farm and almost get a Raid Farm working without a guide (Trying to figure out a issue with the Pillagers Captain Spawning which is basically the thing holding me back RN)
Finally they add a cool future to a race like a mod I’m so happy and I hope you guys are too
Man, This modifier makes for some crazy races
I wonder how many birthday party’s worth of balloons ISAB has popped
at least like 4
just in this video probably already a crap ton, races give you 80 rounds of xp in like 2 minutes so if you play enough times to improve your time you will easily gain a lot, I think I gained about 12 million xp this week lol
Perma Brickell buff was fun, as well as first strike spam
ISAB: "You might think ballistic missiles with Brickell's permanent boost is amazing, but there is a tower called a recursive that is even better."
Me, who got 1st place using ballistic missile spam: 🤔
😶
Your 🧠 is just bigger
hi gumball
lol so true, your strat was very nice, although I think he meant ballistic spam with almost no recursives. however tbf the ballistics do a great job because sub start and using ballistic to defend the moab allowed me to send short but harder rounds like 28 and 30 early and get recursives faster and buying a second ballistic during fullsend meant I was completely safe from dying
@@rophu5876 nice pfp
video ideas:
ultimate cross pathing + everything is cluster mod
or
everything is maelstorm + almost zero cooldown
or
everything is cluster + seeking projectiles
Imagine the energizer with this modifier
Why did I thought that money giving ability’s would be way more used(Druid, sniper, heli).
Why not use sniper farming? It was able to get a pretty good time using snipers and then nuking everything w/ 5 1st strikes
supply drops are capped to 3 usages per round which restricts them from being useful
I used sniper farm for cleanup and could only activate it three times, so I ended up sticking to two fsc
@@mrplasma7094 What about druids?
@@seachasorlul7605 every single ability that makes any shred of money is limited to 3 usages, bank ability limited to 2.
@@amphiapple7890 oh
I can now make Geneva Convention Violations 200x faster!
You ad supply drop that would be crazy
Edit: Nvm I forgot there was a round cap
I tried it, got screwed by abilities per round limit
@@az1202 I've never heard about the ability per round limit, is that exclusive to races?
YOOOOOOOOOO YOU AND JASON UPDATED AT THE SAME TIME!!!
Idea for video, chat can send bloons but it's gonna be like bloons battles where u can eco
How far could ultra buffed summon Phoenix go with this modifier, since you can summon multiple Phoenixes (doesn’t work with WLP
Why no 040 infinite money sniper
Bucaneer paragon: i can survive infinite round
What if the abilities had 0 cooldown? 😳😳😳😳😳
Legend of the night. You win.
And Navarch of the Seas
it wouldn't make much of a difference for the abilities that were enabled except u would get much more moab mines and you use the first brickell ability at 0 seconds instead of 1
It would be so cool if you could watch the runs on the leaderboard
the number of races using recursives or ice shards in the past few weeks is insane...
The number of your comments is insane
LOL
Laughs in super maelstrom + energizer.
Imagine this with Tsar, Overclock, Tech Terror or Maelstrom.
You were in the mini race with me this week 😃 beat me by about 2 1/2 but I just thought it was cool
If towers had little cooldown then chaos
Ah yes, I forgot NK made the 4-2-0, the virgin sub cross path even more of a virgin. 4-0-2 for life for all us mega Chads out there
I did this without brickell, so my time was terrible, but it was quite fun
If there were no cool downs then man moab eliminator would be the op bad killer
Maybe try supply drop? Not sure if that would give lots of money
Most money making abilities are capped to a certain amount of usages per round to prevent regrow stalling to make infinite money
Not sure if that would be as apparent for races tho
i was thinking the same thing
for some reason instead of a 3 per round cap they put a cap of 3 uses total on each money making ability in races
@@Lawrence_Zhou They did? I thought it was infinite. When I tried 240 sniper it was infinite
Question: why did you not use mid path sniper..
dont worry, this is just the first round of abr
sniper farming look good
I am pretty sure when you alch buff the recursive the 0-2-5 is better and the alche buff 2-0-5 because of its attack speed so you should try both and see which one gets a better race time
yes 0-2-5 is better than 2-0-5 most of the time but isab didn't go for bomb blitz, the bombs were just 4th tier recursive clusters, and 2-0-4 has double the pierce and double the damage compared to 0-2-4, when you alch buff them the damage difference does dwindle (but is still significant) but the doubled pierce still means that 2-0-4 is better in races with the hyperclumped bloons, and the 0-2-4's attack speed is only 70% faster than 2-0-4 so it doesn't even come close to making up for the difference
im here isab! anyways great race week this was.
Are the snow explosion thingies for mortars still available?
Don't you dare tell me they left the show today because it's no longer January
For this I just did good old trusty recursive cluster and brickles mines
Moab elim + autoclicker = infinite bloon carnage/destruction
Why did he never get rid of the trees!? I feel like that would save a few seconds
He can't
@@mabombo8221 gotcha thanks haha obviously haven't played it myself
Now this is rad
11:31 The bloons went back little but time didn't.... sus
I watched it a minute after it came out
Isn't faster shooting better on recursive when alch buffed?
It does beat it out in terms of raw DPS, but the difference lies in the fact that the top path increases pierce. That piece is more important than the DPS for the early stages, meaning the top path is ironically better here.
Is top path truly better with recursive than middle? I'd have been doing it wrong a while now xD
Me when I go shopping with my mom and not my dad 3:05
Everything would be overpowered with a ability but per charge
No Gwen WoF? Oo wait. Can't buy round 1
Wouldn't supply drop be good?
What is your favorite tower in Bloons?
i just use sub commander alch buff and got 5 minutes, good enough to be in top 25%
U can destroy trees for faster killing, time will be better
You can’t remove obstancles and stuff
@@madness3979 oh i didn't know
first strike be like
I am explode
super maelstrom tho
@@hctavgt4187 super mael is average but you need to wait through the cool-down of it being activated
@@hctavgt4187 super maelstrom and tack shooter as a tower is not enabled in the race
0-4-0 Sniper infinite money? since there's no cooldown on money drop. Same for 0-4-0 Druid. Then insta overclock for tower boost?
no, there is a cap that doesn't allow you to use more than 3 money-generating abilities from the same tower per round
Those races are hacked, i assume NK put it in the game, but it’s not used.
Truly, what if?
Is that a new mic? Sounds a bit different
Do a god buffed 204 or 205 video please
Wouldn't going 0-2-4 bombs have been better here since you were alch buffing them? Or is the DPS for those better than top path only with 4th tier alch?
If they are alch buffed, usually 024 is better, but in races with the insane bloon density, 204 is better for the pierce.
@@driveone483 yes
Hbomb viewer
@@jocelynfiloteo9554 lnao likely yes
@@driveone483 right, i forgot 1xx adds pierce, thanks
Do a vid with tewbre
by any chance, does isab mean "i suck at bloons?"
ISAB should do BTDB (1) Stuff like the evil quest thingy.
Alch buffed 0-2-4 bomb shooters are better than alch buffed 2-0-4 bomb shooters. Could have got a better time with this.
no smh, 2-0-4 recursives have double the pierce which the hyperclumped race bloons always pierce cap (which an alchemist don't change), along with 50% more damage when both are alch buffed and a bigger blast radius, and the 65% attack increase from 0-2-4 doesn't even come close to making up for the difference
why are y'all falling for hbomb's mythical vid which completely ignores races, try out a race yourself while using a 0-2-4 bomb to see how bad it is in races
sniper crate boi give moneyyyy
does bomb blitz work with this!
Wait, who's Smael?
Mic feels weird this video, did you get a new one?
ISAB'D to you
Imagine fire storm Gwen glue storm snowstorm and anti bloon and mad and carpet of spikes ultimate spam ability
spamming gwen would be super op, you could just sell and rebuy her and throw cocktails instantly and make enough money before purples come to get min time
They banned tech terror i cant delete the entire army
try mastry mode bloonarius
Btw why sell alchs doesn't it remove the buff?
no the buff stays for 5 seconds, then you rebuy it later to reapply the buff. selling it gives you money back to buy other towers in the meantime. the only downside is you need to perform a little more micro but it allows you to make much more money in less time which is more important
It only removes the buff if its permabrew
024 bimb with alchemist is better than 204 with alchemist btw
no smh, 204 has double the pierce and since bloons are hyperclumped in races 204 always wins out in it
No try 024 bombs in a bomb spam race and see what happens (hint your going to lose)
You two should watch the HBomb's video
you are an average hbomb stan who believes everything that noob says, ignores our factual arguments, and 2-0-4 bomb is far superior in races due to its pierce
@@sunbleachedangel seems like you're just an average hbomb stan who believes all he says (many of them myths) and ignores everything we have to say
hbomb completely ignored pierce in his vid, and pierce is everything in races since bloons are so clumped, and the 2-0-4 bomb has more than double the pierce (which even an alchemist wouldn't change much), in addition to the extra blast radius and damage (which an alchemist does kind of make up but it will remain a massive difference even with it), making it vastly superior in races
Are 040 druids banned?
erm... plz fix your wording ninja kiwi!
Ability cooldown RATE of 5% = the abilities take 20x as long to recharge.
Ability cooldown TIME of 5% = the abilities recharge 20x as fast.
I thought it was the former and hence didn't bother with towers with abilities.
d
It effects abilitys like legend of the night portal
Nuke is op
Nice