MorphOS - A Modern Operating System for PowerPC (Installation & Demo)
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- It's morphin' time.
Today we're checking out MorphOS - a unique operating system whose roots lie in AmigaOS that can be installed on a handful of PowerPC Macs. So I pulled out my G4 Cube to give it a go!
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The G4 Cube actually looks really modern considering it’s age. I’ve always liked the style of it.
Apple missed the opportunity to make a modern rendition of the G4 Cube when releasing the Mac Studio, big time.
@@juanignacioaschura9437 Potentially the next gen Mac Pro could be like that. More of a throwback to the NeXTCube, but still would be cool.
That generation of apple products is so visually stunning. My favorite is the iMac G4.
@@NHT2 yep, that was the best iMac ever
@@juanignacioaschura9437Because unless it’s the first rendition of a product, they act like the models in between never existed.
I just want to take a moment to acknowledge how forward-compatible the G4 Mac Cube was. This was a device that existed in the Pentium II era. (Just after the release of the PIII, actually, but the PII was still in its prime.)
It can boot from USB, can drive 1920x1080 on the digital video interface, and supports 1.5GB of RAM. For the time, that was _insane._
Yeah. Apple was truly ahead of their time.
To be fair, those features weren't exclusive to the Cube or Apple in general. As usual with non-Apple machines, if you wanted to you could've specced out a Windows or Linux/Unix machine with the same or even better features for less than the Cube costed
@@resneptacle That’s not entirely true.
There are probably workstation / server boards from that era that could be upgraded to 1.5GB RAM, but the 440BX (arguably the most common PII chipset) topped out at 1GB, and the i815 (common PIII chipset) actually only supported half that.
We were _just_ starting to get into the BBS (BIOS Boot Specification) age that supported booting from things other than floppy and hard disks and add-in cards with boot ROMs (I.e., SCSI.) Whether a particular BIOS could or could not boot from the (fairly new) USB 1.1 ports depends on the vendor. But it’s likely not possible on a given board.
And, I have a PIII system with an ATI Radeon 8500 with DVI. It works OK in Windows, but gets utterly confused by EDID data from an HD or UHD monitor during boot. I don’t get the BIOS, boot loader, or even Windows boot logo screens at all. First sign of life is when it reaches the desktop, because the full driver is loaded and can explain to the hardware what to do with a supported resolution of 1920x1080.
(Edit: My workaround here was to buy an inline EDID emulator that reporter a 1280x1024 monitor instead. Then everything works. It’s a known issue with the video BIOS on that card, unlike the ATI card in the Cube.)
The G4 Cube handles all of that with finesse. So, no - as is often the case, it’s more than just an overpriced PC that can run MacOS.
If only it was compatible with the laws of thermodynamics
I'd say that was more of Pentium III era than Pentium II era, Pentium III had been out a bit over a year before the Mac Cube and while P2 were still made and sold the last desktop Pentium II was close to 2 years old. 1133MHz Pentium 3 was released the same month as the G4 Cube. Pentium 4 was also released during the time Apple still sold the Cube.
Via Apollo Pro133 supported 1.5GB RAM and Pro133A 2.0GB RAM. SiS chipsets also did 1.5GB
An OS I've literally never heard of... Big thanks to you for bringing this to our attention!
I love how he shows us all sorts of unknown things and its always amazing to see
On the Amiga platform, this is a very popular operating system.Its competitor is AmigaOS4 PPC. You can transparently run applications for Amiga computers (not all of course).
Look at Eddie over there laughing.
Michael is literally just ready to entertain his videos. He does a perfect job and I think everyone here does too. Keep up the good work!!;
Michael MJD hi mate the xp 10 version is brilliant
@@nathanmcneill8712 Totally agree
@@MrAlozai yeah tried it and it works perfect only prob i have is trackpad built in doesnt work i have to use a wireless mouse
He's my number one channel. Somehow his videos always entertain me!
This is exactly the kind of comment i wanted to make
Man, I didn't knew you have G4 Cube. One of the best looking apple computers, and still is a work of art
Kind of ridiculous such an extremely niche OS is closed source and proprietary. All the dev is doing is further narrowing the amount of people who can or will use. I'd bet they'd make even more money just taking donations. And after all, for the $70 price, you can certainly buy hardware that is far beyond 2006 power, so the price also completely defeats the purpose.
I was afraid to say this but you're right. I'd totally use this if I got a PowerPC system in future but the price is more than what I'd pay of a computer of that era
Yep. I definately can't afford to blow $70 playing with antique Macs... I was pretty keen to try this on one of my old Macs until he said it wasn't free. Not going to bother now, which means $0 instead of a possible $5 or $10 donation.
> I'd bet they'd make even more money just taking donations
No. _Extremely hard no._ Ask anybody who actually does open source development, and what you'll find out is that only the very top-tier projects make some semblance of income from donations. Haiku is leagues more popular than MorphOS and it _scrapes_ by year-over-year. MorphOS knows what they're doing.
@@adamsfusion exept i am not sure they do. it is hardly usable. you would expect that it creates new life for the power pcs. but it has very limited support, and the OS does not fly - it sometimes even feels slower than the os9/osx is on the same hardware. i know that the hardware is limited but you would expect that for such price and high version it would be optimised down to the last bit to make it a decent amiga(like) experience…
i like the idea and i myself love alternative operating systems- but a g4/g5 power pc supposed to be much more powerful than earlier amigas …. and yet it barely computes :)
and it lacks a lot of essential service and functions.
i would love to use it for coding (web mainly) but the browser is anything but usable (it reminds me on internet explorer 5 … the performance)
so for its pricetag it does not offer anything but a ‘well its different’ feeling.
i am collecting old /retro systems but i’d prefer to use os10 on my g5 imac … and windows98 on my pii pc… as they are all providing the same features and the same lack of proper interneting experience- but at least those are able to run the era specific apps without much issues
once again: i love the idea, but it seriously underdelivers for a pricetag and for a version (3.7) … :)
(i have a copy and is installed on a g4 mini)
@@mityaboy4639 The fact that using the web sucks with retro computers have nothing to do with the OS itself; it is just that modern internet requires you to deal with TLS and boatloads of memory to render Javascript-riddled web pages and those machines simply don't have the horsepower to do those things satisfactorily. It is the same experience for those running something like Antix in their old Atom-based netbooks, like those EeePCs. You just need to adjust your expectations of what computing can be.
Having said that, Morph OS has the capability to run its own native apps which indeed there are not a whole lot of it but it also has a built-in JIT emulator for m68k Amiga applications which there are many and that can be a life saver for people invested in that platform, specially considering the messy situation with the "official" AmigaOS.
As a person who grew up on Windows and DOS i took the time a couple years ago to use WinUAE and related tools to formally educate myself in the ways of Amiga and Workbench and it was interesting as heck. Instead of just playing games i decided to try and set up a Workbench environment for document writing and image editing and general productivity work. The UI conventions of Amiga are quite interesting. I set up different emulated hardware with different workbench versions and even the modern versions. Totally worth taking a dive into sometime.
WinUAE?
@@BakaTheSussy UAE is a computer emulator which emulates the hardware of Commodore International's Amiga range of computers
@@TheDirge69 I asked because I live in the country called UAE 🇦🇪
@@BakaTheSussy nice! I am in Australia..
@@BakaTheSussy UAE in this context stands for "Universal Amiga Emulator"
You’ve inspired me to be obsessed with technology Microsoft and Apple and downloading or trying out obscure things that are tech related.I loved when you downloaded windows 3.1 in your iphone and when you downloaded the hard to find linux os for your ps2 and especially when you explained it he windows XP bliss background and the windows “welcome music” and when you checked out a windows 98 copy with information that wasn’t wiped out.people call me a nerd just because I like watching your videos.but those people don’t know that the TH-camr I watch is a inspiration to me.whenever I see something old like a windows 95 98 xp or vista guide book or floppy disks or old wires or old keyboards mouses or computer screens I think about your content…and I also get very excited and amused! Keep up the good content! 👍
I believe the old Amiga OSes used the "drawer" metaphor, and rendered them visually as drawers.
Amiga came out during a time when these things were not settled yet and thus used different analogies and concepts to things we're used to. The desktop, for example, was called "workbench" and thus folders were indeed "drawers". And its window management has some things very unique, like being able to have multiple "screens" even with different resolutions and things only seen in other niche OSes such as RISC OS like the window with the focus not necessarily being brought to the top of the stack and gadgets to change the Z-order of the stacked windows. It does take a while to get used to it...
Many things for the initial Amiga operating system were done by the company Electronic Arts.
I love the frutiger aero look and feel of the OS, like the style is really nice, a good match for the mac g4
I work on the modern IBM POWER CPUs, really cool to see that there's still people out there creating software for the consumer versions!
it's great to see MorphOS still getting some love!
Lots of definitely AmigaOS flavoured things going on there, so by your confusion I'm guessing you were never an Amiga owner! You can use the Depth gadget in the top right to bring windows forward instead of double clicking - I wish Windows allowed you to keep active windows behind inactive ones as it's actually pretty useful. The right click for menus is a hangover from when the Amiga had multiple "screens"; grabbing the title bar at the top allowed you to drag the entire screen down to reveal additional ones behind it (some applications required their own screen because they wanted to run in a specific resolution/colour depth) - sort of a proto virtual desktop, I guess. Other things I spotted are the WBStartup folder, the virtual device assigns (S:, LIBS:, T:, ENV:, etc.), a RAM disk, and the separation of "System" and "Work" drives.
Now that's the kind of info (trivia?) I look for when I watch videos on old and uncommon OSs.
@@marcusaureliusf I used an Amiga as my daily driver until the late 90s, but even when I'd made the switch to PC the Amiga was still my go-to machine for a lot of stuff until around 2005 when I finally had to admit defeat, but I miss a lot of the OS features that have never really had an equivalent on other systems. MorphOS looks like a valiant attempt but the limited hardware support pretty much restricts it to being mostly a novelty item; if there was an ARM port that would run on a Raspberry Pi I'd happily shell out €80 for it!
good to see people are still making operating systems like this for old machines
I'm very pleased that you kept in the screen-res problem and also the issue locating the installer. You've kept it real-world and very relatable. Nice one.
For everybody wondering why this is not a free system: The devs only use the little money they make for hardware, bandwidth and licenses. They develop the system in their free time as a hobby, nobody gets paid, they don´t need to make more money than they do now. Source: I asked them.
It's not about the money although the price point seems absurd but about software freedom.
We want MorphOS to be free
I'd like to see a review of Haiku OS, a modern rewriting of the (partly) closed source and defunct BeOS but completely free and open now, it supports 32 and 64 bit both, but the latter is supported better with modern hardware
didn't he do this?
Did he? I'm looking for it now I cannot find anything, but probably my search skill is weak, but I saw something on distrotube and action retro
@@Xenotypic nope; no results found on his channel
@@wardengamer374 oh wow I thought for sure he had. seems like a good idea for a video then.
@@Xenotypic you might be thinking of Action Retro
I ran MorphOS on my eMac for a while about ten years ago and one of the biggest things I remember is not being able to move windows off of the screen. It’s such a little thing and yet it’s one of those design decisions that’s just a thorn in your side the entire time you use it.
I wonder if other design decisions (e.g. double clicking to bring the window to front) help alleviate the issue. Does the desktop make sense as a whole? There are not many retro videos explaning different GUI conventions out there. Unless I go into the the world of weird Linux window managers, of course...
The thing with both Amiga OS and MorphOS is that they are very customizable. If there is not a setting for this in modern MorphOS, then there is certanly a small app that you can just drag and drop into WBstartup or something similar.
Very easy to install devices, drivers and libraries as well. Just drag and drop the library or driver to the library:/devices: drawer and so on.
It is very different from pretty much any other OSes, but once you get used to it you will most likely find it very user friendly.
@@bloxyman22I was just going to mention that the latest version of 'classic' Amiga OS supports off-screen window dragging.
MorphOS supports off screen dragging. There is such option in settings ...
Go to setting and Iprefs and turn it on.
This OS makes a G5 usable again. I remember trying this a few years back and being fairly impressed. It's really quick if you also replace the harddrive with a SSD. It's a fairly small operating system as it is so it loads very fast for what it is and the G5 in mine was hardly taxed doing basic stuff. But given the obvious limitations I still ponder the value of paying $79 bucks for it. A modern lixux distro on x86 hardware will likely pull ahead. That said I would be excited to see my G5 still going at it.
@Ca L Yeah to a degree kind of rare. At least in an unmolested, scratch free form. You'll find broken or torn up ones fairly easily. But well taken care of G5's are now a bit rare. Collectors buy them up pretty quick too. But it's also a niche market.
I think I would rather try to use Debian 8 than pay for this software and have it be locked to a specific system.
Thanks for another great video!
Is Debian still releasing for PPC? I thought that that architecture was dropped a little while ago. I believe that most PPC users are using Void Linux or some such these days...?
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 it is dropped. 8 is the latest supported from what I've found. Updated until 2018-ish?
But still I would rather use that since I very much dislike the fact that MorphOS is paid and then locked to a specific system.
freebsd might be a better option now
@@NaoPb It does not bind to the computer.The author misunderstood.On the Internet, you can find the keys for the full operation of the system, of course it is not legal, but it fully works.The key is needed only so that the updates would work fully and not slow down after 30 minutes of free work, which the manufacturer specified in the contract.
Yeah Morph OS should be free
michael wrote "It's morphin' time." in the channel description and then morphed all over it
greatest moment in youtube history imo
Wait that's incredibly clever
Absolutely love these obscure non-mainstream reviews 💪🙏
Literally saw this at the perfect time. Love this channel!
Great, makes me want to double boot into Linex again (4years vacation )
Just spent 2 days getting TPM setup on one of my vintage PCs
Loved the tour/Thanks
You'll have to explain Linex further. Google is not showing any meaningful results for it. Maybe it's been killed off?
@@RWBHere It's a derivative of LINUX known for it's ever so soft install.
Love this OS! I actually bought a rare Power Mac G5 powerpc quad core to run it, and the courier sent it to me in fuc*ing pieces. I still have nightmares about it.
If the courier didn’t break it their notoriously leaky liquid cooling would have, you got a blessing in disguise imo
That’s a shame. Did you at least get a refund?
I am using this on my dual Powermac G5. It’s been running flawless and very dependable. I can’t say the same for any supposedly compatible Linux or BSD which have been exceedingly difficult to get running. Despite the fact that it is not multiprocessor aware it is surprisingly snappy.
MorbOS? Truly one of the operating systems of all time
Not really you have to pay for this shit
Interesting that there are still people with a need for such software, I would like to play around with that, though I've got no PowerPC based system. Thanks for making this video!
Wonder if it'd work with a PowerPC emulator?
I've wondered how it would run on an RS/6000 (pSeries, System P, or whattever IBM is calling it this week). But it's been 12 or 15 years since I've had any deskside P systems to work on (all my later ones were rackmounts usually running OpenStack or straight up Linux, and usually located in another state anyway)
PowerPC processors are still used, they seem to be prolific in the radiation hardened processor space, being still sent up in space satellites.
@@alext3811 wow, that sure is a fun fact
@@FlyboyHelosim possibly
I love the icons and design of this OS.
This thing is freaking FAST O.S. wise. Tough bone to chew in some configurations but definitely worth it!
Right-click menus, the window controls, "drawers", "tools", "utilities" - those are all conventions from the *_Amiga_*
Your videos are one of the best for sitting back and relaxing thank you for your great work 💙
This was very interesting. I've got 2 PowerMac G4s that I love to keep using however I can.
Morph is interesting in that it's not the only OS for this hardware, not including Linux. I don't know too much about these things but I do know that any and all AmigaOS environment will be the most gorgeous looking retro (now) interface you will ever see. And either the easiest OS to use or the most obstructive, depending on who you ask. And I'm very much in the latter camp! I notice you didn't fully notice how Workbench (early AmigaOS) menu bar buttons work for example. And that's just for starters. Yes, all apps are (sort of) in one place and libraries and system files can just be dragged and dropped but holy moly is it opaque and unintuitive in every other way IMHO. But it does have icons of any and differing at once sizes. and dude, when you click on them they change into a secondary icon AND a third when you open it. And that's all that really matters. Yeah, you should definitely check out more Amiga stuff.
Since it runs on PowerPC hardware, I wonder if you can run it on the Wii or Wii U, as they also use PowerPC, plus it would be on brand for the channel.
cant it also run ARM code?
@takipsiz AD I did not consider that, though they might have arm support, I haven't checked.
it could run on PS3 and Xbox 360 too since both use PowerPC CPUs and straight up nVidia graphics
While the CPU is similar, the CPU doesn't define the whole system architecture. Later Power Macs are partially based on CHRP standard if I'm correct, while Wii and Wii U runs on completely proprietary architecture.
The same goes for any x86, ARM based systems.
@ 연지쿤 YJK There I go mixing up words that don't make sense together again, thank you for clearing things up.
8:54 There are many Poles in the development team list, I am proud of my country
I just had a wild idea… What if the developers port this to the Wii U? It is powered by the PowerPC architecture as well, so porting it could be easy.
Keeping in mind this same idea, then you could also port Wii U games to these types of mac that also use powerPC architecture
I thought the same. MorphOS and AmigaOS 4.1 aren't multicore compatible yet, but it would be really sleek. For the fastest clocked PPC core I can think of would be the XBox360.
@@dr3fall355It's not that easy, porting this OS to the Wii U won't be a easy task, and porting Wii U games to this OS, nearly impossible... yes both the Wii U and other PC targetted by MorphOS use a PowerPC CPU but.. you would have to reverse engineer the GPU, wifi card, disc drive etc. to make drivers for them and porting games that aren't made to use other GPUs will hard even impossible given you don't have the source code of the game(games on Wii U are made SPECIFICALLY for the Wii U GPU so...).
That Ubuntu screen this opened on brings back a flood of nostalgia.
MorphOS only has a limited subset of Mac Hardware that it actually supports. the subscripts attached to each entry will show the exact specific configurations i.e. only specific PowerMac G5 configurations are supported generally only Macs with Radeon graphics hardware.
I kind of wonder what the business application is for this. Generally the reason companies keep old machines around is because they have a piece of software on them that _has_ to run on an old OS. So changing the OS on the old machine completely defeats the purpose of using that old machine.
I was interested in this for an old Mac I have just sitting around, but since old computer hardware just can't handle modern websites, it doesn't look like this really has anything to offer over the old version of macOS already on the computer.
Think people that are invested in Amiga applications and the whole ecosystem. That's the userbase MorphOS is targeting.
This OS is perfect for running Amiga software (including games) on old hardware.
There's also still plenty of life left in taking it online.
@@RichardTroupeI don't think it supports Amegia software though?
Yea it supports Ameiga software@@nicholasbrooks7349
Дуже гарна операційна система. Розробники гарно постаралися
Like other people have already said, this software is too expensive for what it really is as it feels like a hobby project. MorphOS absolutely should transition to being free and open source if they want people to use it, else it'll just die. Most people would install literally any supported linux distro with a lightweight DE instead of this as there is going to be a lot more support and much more software will be supported.
If it went free, it would die as there would be no money for the developers to take it further. Free/open source just runs out of steam after a while. ReactOS and Haiku are moving at a glacial pace while others have fallen by the wayside. I guess everyone loves free when it comes to getting software but far fewer love to code the dull but necessary stuff for free.
It is aimed towards the Amiga community, and not general purpose. You won't believe how much money Amiga hobbyists throw on their hobby. That's why MorphOS gets away with it.
Keeping such a large team together to release 3 primary releases and over 30 point releases is a huge deal. They deserve the money, I bought it and wasn't disappointed a great OS.
Great OS, you can drag windows off the screen by going to iprefs in system/prefs. Very fast and responsive, on a high end G5 with fast video, you can play stuff well. Crazy because MacOS can't do half that MOS does. MorphOS is highly regarded and is considered the best Amiga like OS.
Amiga On a PowerPC Mac. This is really great if you don’t have a amiga computer.
Good content as always keep it up.
MJD finally flirts with Amiga? (sort of) Awesome!
What I've wanted to know for years is why PowerPC stopped being a thing. Apple's suppliers were having delays meeting performance demands, but other PowerPC suppliers had basically already delivered and all were completely sideblinded by Apple. After Apple bailed PowerPC continued to be a high performance system.
I understand it was a thermal issue. The faster the clock speed the more heat was generated up to the point you couldn't run a G5 in a laptop because it would overheat. Apple wanted faster speeds so they went to Intel.
If I didnt have to buy it 4 times I'd have it installed in a heartbeat on my PPC systems.
never seen these before but sound modern & high-quality.
Thank you for this video. Amiga was my first computer and back in the day Workbench was awesome. However, they say that this MorpOS is continuation of it but everything I saw is painful. Starting from the hardware limitations to the issues and sluggisness of the browsing which is a must in modern day computing. It is really sad when they pride themselves as continuation of Amiga and yet everything here is slow and slugish.
Top right most button on ANY window to switch its "stacking" position, as on the original Amiga for reference.
6:51
That's how it worked on Amiga. The top menu was accessed by right clicking on it :)
It’s a CUBE!!! Apple needs to bring the cube back with an M2 chip, that would be seriously cool
The Mac Studio kind of has a cube shape
that G4 cube reminds me so much of the NeXTcube. you should probably do a video on that guy if you haven’t already
Years ago I installed it on a PPC Mac Mini G4, it was able to play youtube at the time
The styling of this reminds me of my earliest memories with Windows XP.
Current versions of Windows and MacOS make you forget how pretty an operating system can look with fancy icons and such...
I'd totally buy MorphOS if it worked on any of my hardware.
Amiga forever ? Amiga Rulezzz !
I just ❤ morphOS
Enjoyed the video, found your channel recently and have been enjoying the content. Also. My boyfriend’s cat is named Morpheus, and we call him Morph all the time lol. I’m sure my partner will love knowing there’s an OS ironically with the same name we call our cat.
Great video. Would be interesting to see you take a closer look at the applications that come with the OS. Looks like they're all custom-made for MorphOS, so it's almost a parallel universe compared to the Win/Mac/Linux software that we use on the regular.
On AmigaOS, as far as I know, you can compose music (but there is no better tool than Renoise on a PC - like any Amiga tracker but on steroids), work as illustrator / Desktop Publisher (PageStream on Amiga, similar to QuarkXpress & Illustrator in once) and be artistic (ArtEffect4 - Photoshop clone or Photogenics)... play videos and music or play old games... :)
i like how that monitor almost matches the mac... then i realized i have a dell monitor attached to my g4.... we should make this a thing
I miss my Amiga 4000
It's interesting, when I think about the naming scheme meeting:
Panel: What should be our browser called? Since we are new and not popular, it should be catchy and easily recognised.
Result: Wayfarer
Panel: What about our email client?
Result: Iris
Awesome....
Since MorphOS was made to run on PowerPC architecture, it could theoretically run on the Wii
aeshetic of the os screams frutiger aero. absolutely nostalgic lol
Thanks for MOS review, its still active and going AMD64 transition
Double clicking windows to bring them to front is actually very useful: clicking once makes it the active window and you can do things in that window eg edit text without the active window hiding the top one. Once you use it, you wish Windows had it.
If I've learned anything over the years, its they always make the most complicated installers.
Modern and PowerPC in the same sentence is something you don't see every day
First time I'm early in a MJD video. Nice video!
true
Pixel cross is just picross but it's nice to finally know it was meant to be pixel crosswords.
I looove the theme 💜.💜 at least visually; it’s so appealing 🎀🎀
Now you gotta cover TempleOS
3 or so years back I was trying to score a G5 "cheesegrater" mac that I wanted to try MorphOS & some other PPC operating systems on.
I just installed Sorbet Leopard on to my iBook G4 from 2004 (1.33 MHz, 1.25G RAM, 60G HD). While the install was a bit challenging (because my internal CD Drive wasn’t working), I think it is a much better option for a more modern OS than MorphOS. TH-cam (mobile) worked far better than your demo here. And because Sorbet installs on a partition, I can still boot up in Panther and run old apps in Classic 9.2. It won’t be my daily driver, but still useful and surprisingly capable laptop after 20 years! I’m glad I replaced the battery while they were still available. TBD if I can access shared folders from a modern Mac.
To be fair your iBook is leaps and bounds more powerful than this cube, that could be why TH-cam ran better.
that dell monitor is mint. I've only seen them in black from that era.
MorphOS is the counterpart to AmigaOS 4.1. Sadly like many things in Amiga land there seems to be a feud between the MOS and AOS teams. MOS focuses on old hardware, while AOS focuses on newer niche PPC hardware. Both are nice IMO. MOS reminds me of a cross between AOS and MacOS.
Have you considered doing a video on WSL 2? It's really cool running GUI Linux programs on Windows
IBM’s System P Main Frame is a PowerPC based machine but IBM has taken this architecture so far it’s nothing like any of the machines listed above. In fact IBM now whole owns this architecture. In the beginning is was a consortium of many companies. But it would be an interesting experiment to try to get this OS to run either on the bare iron or in a partition.
Ricky from IBM
michaelmjd vids are great, such a good vibe. they're like chicken noodle soup.
12:55 from a usability interface perspective, those tiers are called "breadcrumbs".
I used to have an Amiga 1000. With extended memory. I played with AmigaBasic a lot. It would need beefing up a hell of a lot to be useful today. I paid $1000 for one meg of memory. Still I was keen in those days. It was a huge step up from the Commodore 64.
You have druaga1 and LGR vibes at the same time. Good stuff!
ITS MORPHIN TIME
What excites me about a PowerPC OS is the fact that it could theoretically be ported to Wii U
Theres a whole world of Amiga Operating Systems
This looks like a good mac os alternative but sadly the pay well is limiting the use of the os but oh well
Morph Browser is existed on Ubuntu Touch, now we have MorphOS
It would be beneficial to understand how Amiga OS works and how to use the UI before using MorphOS as well as the terms and jargon used in the Amiga community.
I say this because you’ll enjoy it a lot more if you do
ActionRetro would love this.
Try installing adellie Linux, it is a modern (still updated) distro of Linux for ppc, it even had firefox and modern de's
Awesome video, Michael!
I love the video one thing I want to note is I personally think the G4 Cube is one of the worst PPC Macs to try this on, I would highly recommend trying it on a G5, I have a G5 that runs web browsing a lot more stable on OSX 10.5, I think you'd have much better luck with a G5 but I really appreciate the video! keep up the weird tech work!
What I don't see about MorphOS is what differentiates it from other OSs enough to justify its cost. It isn't that there's nothing unique in MorphOS, it's just that without a real "killer app" I don't see many people being willing to pay to use it.
Just like AmigaOS 4, at this point it is an OS for hobbyists who want to toy with idea of alternative reality where Amiga had done transition from m68k to PPC (which was never on the table, Amiga had been toasted as a platform even before Commodore went belly up) and how it might look like in the late 1990s. Other than that is has no practical purpose: it runs on seleted PPC Macs and a few exotic PPC boards, it has no SMP support (cannot use more than 1 core), has no decent browser (even if it had - the hardware available is too weak to handle modern pages well), nor serious productivity software. If I were to pay for a retro OS, I would rather buy a licence of ArcaOS (slightly refurbished OS/2 Warp 4).
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I wonder what their initial market was. Like, who did they make this for?
its to offer a modern OS to amiga fans. Thats why most of the UI is identical to workbench, heck even the drawers are identical.
@@CathrineMacNiel it looks great, i'd like to see them implement more modern conventions (like scaling, and being able to push things over the "edge" of the desktop for example) I guess it feels kinda claustrophobic.
2 hours per boot I don't know anybody who would need to use this more than that.
It's interesting. They've definitely put some effort into this, and it's (aesthetically) really pretty. I'm not a fan of reinventing the wheel, re: UI conventions. Like... "Drawers"? Really? Was that necessary? _It's still using a folder icon!_ Right-clicking the menu is hiding essential functionality in plain sight. And you can't drag a window partially off-screen? Why...? I can't be the only one who stretches the work are of a monitor by only showing the content of a window that I absolutely have to see.
Also, as much as I understand that this is a ton of work, and they deserve to be compensated for that, very few people _need_ this. Nobody is still using these machines in production. And those that are, need it to run the software that they can't get anywhere else, so a new OS is out of the question. Retro enthusiasts will feed their nostalgia with the OSes that they remember from the time, mostly. And those that are open to experimentation will have multiple machines, and are never going to be interested in individually licensing them.
As often as you hear "I just want it for simple things, like web browsing" ... web browsing isn't a simple thing. It's one of the most demanding things a typical user will do on their computer. Just having up-to-date SSL certs and a modern rendering engine does not magic 4GB of RAM and 2.5GHz of multi-core CPU power into a retro computer. :-)
So I'm curious who, exactly, this is for?
Maybe those conventions come from old Amigas? I don't know, some youtubers take them for granted and others are confused by them, but very few really explain these different conventions, where they come from and how you would work on a machine with that kind of GUI. Could modern GUIs learn something from them or are they just obsolete?
Morph OS has the capability to run its own native apps which indeed there are not a whole lot of it but it also has a built-in JIT emulator for m68k Amiga applications which there are many and that can be a life saver for people invested in that platform, specially considering the messy situation with the "official" AmigaOS.
Now if that is a sound investment, that's a whole different question...
Drawers have been an amiga mainstay since the beginning