As a former controller, I can only imagine watching you progress to a landing was like watching paint dry ... slooow.! But, I must agree with the better comments here. You called ahead, knew you were tasked with staying as sharp as you could and you had two fully qualified pilots watching and cross-checking one another. Nicely Done. I would guess that your flying into that airport made your skills a bit sharper. Good for you. Again, as a former controller, the fun of the job was getting everyone there safely. Working that other traffic around you would be what I called the 'fun.' You were just another plane. Only a bit slower. They weren't hurt by having to work with a much slower aircraft they they had been used to. Everyone wins here.
Ernest Lingo easiest way to spot an airport ar night is to look among the lights, and find “dead space” a dark area. Chances are that’s an airport and not a lake or something
Wow that would be - impossible lol since Heathrow only has 2 runways (maybe 3 at some point now that the courts have finally approved it) - or even more impossible - Gatwick (which has ONE runway with a 2nd standby)
MCO is Orlando International (McCoy Air Base originally). ORL is Orlando Executive. ORD is Chicago O'Hare (originally Orchard Field), named after Medal of Honor winner Butch O'Hare...who happened to be the son of Al Capone's lawyer who blew the whistle on the gangster for tax evasion.
One of my last flights as a crew member in Coast Guard HH52 helicopter was a routine evening lake patrol flight out of CGAS Chicago (located in Glenview, It was decommissioned and torn down in the late 90’s along with Glenview NAS). It was on July 4th,1972 and I got to sit by the open side door (yes, I was tethered in) and watch fireworks from lots of different suburbs as we flew back to the station.
That front camera view was awesome. One reason you avoid Class B airports is the Facility Fee. Just to land at Miami International and park on Landmark Aviation's ramp would cost me $220
+steveo1kinevo Wow, my home base is KADS, but never landed at KDFW, KDAL, KMIA, or KORD. It just doesn't do it for me to get those airports. I'm looking for convenience every time.
@@Aviation101 I live in McKinney about 5 min drive to McKinney airport. Live 5 min from the small one that had the mid air collision last summer, not sure the name of it though. See lots of personal aircraft fly out of that one and over the house. The 1 plane crashed about 2 blocks from the house the other was down the street at the Home Depot
There's almost nothing more beautiful than a big city at night. I got to fly into O'Hare once but it was during the day. My Instrument Instructor thought it would be a good idea. We did it in the clouds, approaching over the lake from the east and breaking out of the clouds at maybe 1000 feet AGL. Suddenly there was a huge runway in front of me, hundreds of feet wide and 2 miles long. The tower said there was a 747 behind us and we should "expedite approach". I asked my instructor what that means and he said to fly the approach at cruise speed. Gulp! I'd never done such a thing but shoved the airplane into a 130 knot descent, jamming it on the runway and taking the first exit at (normal) flying speed. We had lunch and departed VFR sandwiched between airplanes so huge that the one behind us was just nose gear in the mirror.
What was your aircraft? I have seen situations like that at ORD and ATL. Mooney, fast Piper, fast Beechcraft between two B747s. Since the B747 is supposed to have a visual on the GA aircraft it is stopped far behind due to the sight angles from the B747 cockpit.
Good Job! Very Professional. I am a retired controller. Started my career at Chicago Executive (Pal-Waukee) in 1974 and then went to O'Hare tower in 1977. I worked in the tower until 2004 when I took a job in the offices as a Planning and Procedure Specialist ( I got too old to work air traffic) and retired in 2014. Thanks for making this video it brings back good memories. It takes courage to fly a single engine into O'Hare in the midst of all the jets. Again you are to be commended for your professionalism and Preparation. God Bless You. Thanks again.
COOL! I once landed a Cessna 172... VFR at SFO...(my friend had a flight out of there) So I called ATC from over Monterey, told them destination SFO...Expected a curse "NO CESSNA". Was shocked when they approved and told me to report over Moffit Field...a long straight in final approach....switching to the Tower, 1 mile final I started to put in 1 notch of flaps...Tower said "Keep your speed up Cessna" So went in, NO FLAPS, power dive at over 120 knots. landed smoothly...as per tower instruction made turn off....then taxied about 3 miles to General Aviation...Experience I will never forget.... taking off 2 hours later was a challenge.
Co-Pilot: *Looks right* Pilot: "Left. The other left" Pilot: *thinks* omfg I'm going to die in a flaming ball of twisted Cessna metal because my instructor doesn't know his directions, aren't I?
In a boat or ship it is always best to use starboard and port. Two people facing each other will look in opposite directions when you tell them to look left. They will look in the same direction when you tell them to look to the port side.
Beautiful ATC work - I'm sure Center and tower were all very appreciative. Aircraft handling was precise for both the GS and Loc. ATC kept the heavies and fast flyers separated off your tail. This was truly a joy to watch and listen to. Definitely not something I would want to attempt without my trusted CFI in the right seat. (lovely photography too.)
Another CFI and I flew in from DuPage to O'Hare in a new F35 Bonanza back in 1979. We worked at DuPage Aviation, the largest Beechcraft dealer in the Mid-West back in the 1970's. We would sometimes pick up new planes from the Beech factory in Wichita. Anyway, to O'Hare, the Approach controller asked if we could keep our cruise speed up to around 160 as long as we could until short final. He wanted to sequence a jet in behind us. As young men, we got a real kick and we had little fear. Now, I'm a different person. Anyway, January 1979 was one of the coldest winters Chicago had in many years. Also, the snow drifts from plowing on the sides of the runway must have been at least 10 ft high. I recall as we were cleared for take off to the Northwest, the tower asked us to make a right 270 degree turn as soon as possible. We complied. I recall a long line of "heavy" jets waiting in line for us to depart. As soon as it was safe, we raised the gear and made a steep climbing right turn to the West. It felt like we broke ground in a few hunderd feet because it was so cold outside. Someone watching from the taxiway said "give that guy a Kewpie doll". My buddy in the right seat said "we'll take it", and we were on our way. I'll never forget that experience. That was 38 years ago.
i recall taking off out of Riverside enroute to Hollywood/Burbank to shoot ILS landings on a clear VFR day. While under the hood and with an observer aboard, we were cleared for takeoff by Riverside tower with the instructions to switch to Ontario Radar at about 2000'. I was getting ready to request direct transition to Victor 26 thence direct El Monte when departure control, in a very hurried voice, instructed "Arrow one niner one two tango turn left 180 immediately". I immediately complied without acknowledgement when my observer said "HOLY -HIT". I immediately whipped the hood back and there in my cross path at maybe 500 higher than me was a C-5 Galaxy heading approximately 270 to the Norton transition. I immediately chopped power and put the nose down waiting for the wake turbulence to hit us..........it never came. We got lucky. I continued heading 180 directly towards the Cleveland National Forest mountain range waiting for departure control to vector us back to Victor 26.....and waited....and waited...and waited...finally I said "Ontario departure control Arrow 12 Tango"...he responded "12 Tango go"...I responded "do you intend to vector us back to Victor 26 or do you want us to continue into the mountain". Needless to say I cancelled IFR, flew directly to Ontario VFR and filed a near miss report.
I too Have been into Ohare in a 172, a C210, and our Family Aztec. Its always been fun, especially with the older Taxiway names,,,,,Inner/Outer/Lake Shore drive, ect......Plus Butler Aviation used to be where the United terminal was built. $5 to park all day! They used have a stub Runway 18/36 next to the VOR. You always landed 18....and departed 36....no matter what the wind was!
I was always interested in piloting but 5 years ago I watched this video and man it made me fall in love with it even more ....now I'm watching it again
Just watched your video and I really enjoyed it because I've done the exact same thing, also in a 172 and about 9:30 pm, albeit many years ago when it was called a TCA. Working on my Instrument rating at MDW one evening my CFI asked me if I'd like to go to ORD. He said "you fly, I'll handle the radios" and it worked perfectly. Everything you said about flying in ORD airspace with much larger and faster aircraft is absolutely true. Calling ahead, being professional, ditto. To taxi among airliners, with their nose wheel headlight at about the same height as the rear window; it was light the sun. Every controller we talked to treated us just like everybody else, very professional and courteous. Thanks for posting, I'm glad I found it; I'll watch it again and again. My experience was WAY before personal video!
Heathrow only opperating two runways requires airlines to purchase Slots and time periods in which to land in. No way would you be able to land a Cessna at Heathrow p, at least without spending a coup,e hundred thousand first
From the air, the LED replacement campaign that the region is going through is remarkably apparent. You can see the line very well where they have yet to replace the sodium vapor lights. I go to Chicago every week, and on the ground it's a whole different experience with the LED's now.
+Michael Tovar Grew up with the orange streetlights, it was practically as bright as daylight all night long. Chicago lights are still more yellow than the surrounding suburbs. Makes it easy to find your house on the video if you live under the flight path like I do : )
+LUpilot2012 +MrAviation101 I'm not sure why you guys think Chicago is just as busy or busier than ATL. Just look at the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. ATL had 46 million passengers last year while ORD had 33 million...... ATL is by far the busiest airport in the world.
Brought bake some good old memories for me. I took flying lessons back in the 70's and got my Associate Science Degree in Aviation Tech from a local college. Got my instrument and multi-engine rating. The airport I started with and learned to fly in and out of was Cleveland Hopkins Airport. Not as big as Chicago but still not a small airport. Cleveland does have parallel runways and I just never really thought much about it. On one flight I had a passenger film a United flight landing to the my left at the same time I was landing. I never did fly into ORD but didn't feel intimidated by it ether. It just never came up as a destination. Some other notable airports I flew in and out of were TOL, CVG, ATL, and MCO. Good memories... Life is good!
I am strictly a passenger, but have flown into O'Hare at least a dozen times. I've also flown into Metro(Detroit), Hartsfield, Gatwick, Heathrow, Charles De Gaule, Orly, Hobby, Inchon and others. There's nothing like flying into a huge city at night. But to successfully pilot a plane. WTG
Mr. Aviation. Thanks for the video. I think the commenters lost the point of your upload. Regardless of what busy airport you fly in to. You better have your wits about you. Pay attention to ATC. A Cessna or any small aircraft flying into a larger aircraft or the other way around is a bad day for all concerned. Great job!
Just completed my first night landing this evening in a 172 M. My home airport (KPBG) is the former Plattsburgh Air Force Base which is uncontrolled airspace and is 11,000’ long. Almost had an anxiety attack watching this !!! Great vid. Thanks for sharing. A good learning tool for us newbies to experience the work load, concentration and attention to detail needed for traveling in class B airspace.
First thought: All those parallel runways! Second thought: Wait, those are streets... Good vid, you have convinced me never to fly into Bravo airspace :-)
I'd be freaking nervous too. I know the big airports almost sleep late at night. Only a handful of cargo planes coming and going. If you want to do this again you could try DFW at about 2am.
+Christian Lang (MasterTRL) Yeah, me too! Most German airlines only require ICAO language proficiency level 4, pronunciation isn't that important... :D
As an ATCO Id honestly appreciate any extra knot you can squeeze out of a Cessna. 90 or 100 doesnt seem like a whole lot of a diference, but when you have a heavy aircraft behind you at 160 in sequence you dont want to be dragging your feet :)
Dudes, Palwaukee close to my home! Wish I'd know ya'll then, could've picked you up and had a cookout at our house! A few great general aviation airports by us as well.
They said that they were going to land, stop, and leave again to head for the smaller executive airport just to the north, they only wanted to come in to the big one for the experience.
Though the Bravo's will sometimes waive the landing fee if its a late-night/early-morning quick turn like this was, a taxi-back doesnt automatically excuse you from paying the landing fee. Given the pilot did his homework calling ahead, he may have setup the payment of the landing fee in advance and some airports will record N numbers and send a bill to registered owner almost like parking tickets.
Very cool! As a former controller and now instrument approach designer, I found this very interesting. I remember telling the Aero Club Cessnas in Korea if they couldn’t get here in the five minutes they would have to wait another half an hour until all the fighters were down.
Outstanding job!!!! Flying a 172 into Class B airspace is not easy very intimidating. I know from experience flying in to George Bush international (Houston) in a 172, Archer, and a Debonair. Shooting ILS and VFR approaches, like you I did it for the experience and training (plus it was a lot of fun). Very well executed radio calls and spot on course/altitude changes. I'm sure your old instructor is proud. Continue the great videos and help keep the spirit of Private Aviation alive!
Its not a matter of being brave (I don't think so). Just like you said its all about knowing your limits and not exceeding your confer zone if it is not necessary. When I would go there it would usually be a night flight when the traffic is died down a bit. I will also call the controllers and ask when is the best time to come and run the ILS. Most often then not it will be some time in the evening. I would encourage you to try is at some point. If you don't feel like you can go to IAH then go to HOU (Hobby).
Now in days it would be a little less intimidating, The reason why i think that is because of that merge with the airlines we had recently and even though these large hub airports lost some business in the outcome, it did however helped clean up the clutter in some of this class B airspace to where their not as a redundant challenge for private aircraft to fly into anymore, most especially KCVG KSTL and KPIT, Matter in fact if you want my opinion i think we have too many big name national airlines flying this days compare to other counterpart countries and not enough Private aviation as used to
Back during the Vietnam War I was flying freight into Chicago ORD carrying everything from mail to ammunition casings in a Cessna 206 with a beefed up engine and a feathering prop from our Rapid Air base in Milwaukee. Most of the three to five landings, five days a week,were after dark checking in over waypoint Northbrook for a straight in approach at full speed until reaching the freight ramp about three quarters down the left runway to a screeching tuck onto the ramp leading to the Continental freight hangers. Return trips to MKE commenced after being granted an “immediate left hand turn-out, which means taking off from the taxi way. Absolutely glorious memories, even under IFR rules.
The is a small carrier called Cape Air that flies into O'Hare. I've flown it before and it was really interesting to be in a Cessna and weave around the big boys.
Flying into Orlando International is hectic as well. Orlando Approach does a great job with a very tight pattern that brings you across the numbers on an Upwind then a tight Crosswind, Base and Final and gets you in quick while not tying up traffic. Awesome video!
Very cool video. You most likely flew over my aunt and uncle's house. The street they live on is inline with one of O'hares runways and their house is just across the freeway from the airport. They were pretty low by the time they went over. It's a 12 hour trip for me to visit them so nowadays I don't get to visit much. As a kid who loved planes it was always exciting for me. Back in those days they had a plane overflying their house every 60 seconds pretty much around the clock. Since the airport has expanded, I believe they are now rotating arrivals more but I'm not 100 percent sure about that.
I really enjoyed this video! I live under the O’Hare flight path so I could literally point out my house from your video! That being said, I have never seen anything smaller than a business jet fly in. Congratulations on a well executed plan!
Well done between pilots, air traffic and ground. The view over Chicago (particularly the city light radiating against the clouds) was amazing. The many camera views were really nice. Thanks for the flight! Keith
K A Yeah, I had just went to and from O’Hare (since I lived there up until a little over 1 year) and unfortunately it wasn’t dark either time so I didn’t get to experience that, it sucks. I also wished I could see a sunset too, but guess not
@@E3T7 Regardless, thanks so much for the 'fly along.' Your video is truly the best. Being a private pilot and flying into an airport of heavies was truly great; what video perspectives! I thought of my late grandfather who was one of the first CAA (later FAA) certified flight mechanics and later a private pilot. Harvey literally worked next to Norma Mortenson, 'Marilyn Monroe,' at the Radioplane company (how lucky was he!!!) making target drones; he even made a Radioplane drone model by hand (that I cherish today). Thanks for the reply, by the way! Keith
Hahaha What fun!!! You brought back some great memories for me when I did exactly this to ORD in a 172 way back in 1990. I had about 80 hours total time, working on my Instrument Rating, flying with a buddy who was my Safety Pilot. We landed on 14L (back when that was a runway). 14L/32R was later renumbered to 15L/33R, and has since been decommissioned. I now fly for a regional out of ORD (very bumpy career, never going to a major). Regarding speeds, Chicago typically wants 300 KIAS until you're cleared below 10,000. Then they want 250 KIAS until you're on a right downwind for 27R, usually at 7,000 MSL. Somewhere abeam the numbers they reduce you to 210 KIAS, drop you to 4,000 MSL. You get a right turn to 180° a few miles east of the shoreline, followed by a 240° to pick up final for 27R. In a jet they would almost never take you to 27L when you're coming in from the north, only if the airport is dead, which it almost never is. We were nervy back then. We didn't call ahead and just were getting flight following VFR over the field when we asked if we could land. After we landed we asked for a control tower tour, and they obliged! Chicago controllers are by far the best in the world, both in professionalism and just being great human beings. I love operating out of ORD. It's such a zoo all the time, and the operation would come to a complete standstill if the controllers weren't as good as they all are. It's great that you did this, and you did it absolutely correctly. It's always good to get a bit outside your comfort zone especially if you're with someone more experienced. Best of luck in your future career!
It seemed very funny that a small plane would even land at O'Hare and I'm sure it was a bit of a nuisance to them when they're very busy with large aircraft. I honestly just watched to see how ridiculous it looked. Hopefully you got that out of your system and will stay with the smaller airports as that's HUGE overkill landing at such a busy airport if it's not an emergency landing.
As a former controller, I can only imagine watching you progress to a landing was like watching paint dry ... slooow.! But, I must agree with the better comments here. You called ahead, knew you were tasked with staying as sharp as you could and you had two fully qualified pilots watching and cross-checking one another. Nicely Done. I would guess that your flying into that airport made your skills a bit sharper. Good for you. Again, as a former controller, the fun of the job was getting everyone there safely. Working that other traffic around you would be what I called the 'fun.' You were just another plane. Only a bit slower. They weren't hurt by having to work with a much slower aircraft they they had been used to. Everyone wins here.
+Fred Eversole That's right!
Thats a bit long for a comment
Hi, what is the first step in becoming a controller after high school? Thanks. (pardon my username haha)
Fred Eversole, love your positive demeanor. Served appropriately with a side of humor ;)
Hi, whats the highest education required to become a controller?
"We have the airport in sight"
Me, a non pilot "all I see is lights"
Ernest Lingo easiest way to spot an airport ar night is to look among the lights, and find “dead space” a dark area. Chances are that’s an airport and not a lake or something
Wrong. You look for green and white lights rotating.
Either way works
Next video: “WE FLEW OUR CESSNA INTO HEATHROW AT 5 P.M.”
Unless it was an emergency I dont think that would even be close to possible.
I want them to go into ATL
Wow that would be - impossible lol since Heathrow only has 2 runways (maybe 3 at some point now that the courts have finally approved it) - or even more impossible - Gatwick (which has ONE runway with a 2nd standby)
Fucking launched into space
Isn't O'hare busier than Heathrow?
Now do JFK at 5pm.
Kerlem ORD is far busier than JFK
Kerlem ORD doesn't come up in Google, are you talking about Orlando?
MCO is Orlando International (McCoy Air Base originally). ORL is Orlando Executive. ORD is Chicago O'Hare (originally Orchard Field), named after Medal of Honor winner Butch O'Hare...who happened to be the son of Al Capone's lawyer who blew the whistle on the gangster for tax evasion.
Hartsfield-Jackson.
Kerlem......damn you are a sponge of knowledge.......
Flew into O'Hare at 10pm 4th of July one year. Amazing seeing fireworks from above! 10/10 recommend.
kidding?
One of my last flights as a crew member in Coast Guard HH52 helicopter was a routine evening lake patrol flight out of CGAS Chicago (located in Glenview, It was decommissioned and torn down in the late 90’s along with Glenview NAS). It was on July 4th,1972 and I got to sit by the open side door (yes, I was tethered in) and watch fireworks from lots of different suburbs as we flew back to the station.
Bullshit
Anand how is being on an airplane on the forth of July something that you wouldn’t believe
@@Anand-cx8po Still butthurt from 2 years ago?
That front camera view was awesome. One reason you avoid Class B airports is the Facility Fee. Just to land at Miami International and park on Landmark Aviation's ramp would cost me $220
+steveo1kinevo Wow, my home base is KADS, but never landed at KDFW, KDAL, KMIA, or KORD. It just doesn't do it for me to get those airports. I'm looking for convenience every time.
+Brian K Rich MD Very cool. Addison is a frequent stop of mine. Mainly McKinney though.
KTKI is much better. I wished I based out of there. Great service. Easy to get in and out of.
Always welcome at KAFW!
@@Aviation101 I live in McKinney about 5 min drive to McKinney airport. Live 5 min from the small one that had the mid air collision last summer, not sure the name of it though. See lots of personal aircraft fly out of that one and over the house. The 1 plane crashed about 2 blocks from the house the other was down the street at the Home Depot
There's almost nothing more beautiful than a big city at night.
I got to fly into O'Hare once but it was during the day. My Instrument Instructor thought it would be a good idea. We did it in the clouds, approaching over the lake from the east and breaking out of the clouds at maybe 1000 feet AGL. Suddenly there was a huge runway in front of me, hundreds of feet wide and 2 miles long. The tower said there was a 747 behind us and we should "expedite approach". I asked my instructor what that means and he said to fly the approach at cruise speed.
Gulp! I'd never done such a thing but shoved the airplane into a 130 knot descent, jamming it on the runway and taking the first exit at (normal) flying speed.
We had lunch and departed VFR sandwiched between airplanes so huge that the one behind us was just nose gear in the mirror.
What was your aircraft? I have seen situations like that at ORD and ATL. Mooney, fast Piper, fast Beechcraft between two B747s. Since the B747 is supposed to have a visual on the GA aircraft it is stopped far behind due to the sight angles from the B747 cockpit.
That's a high pressure landing for sure haha. Probably good experience though. Do that a few times and nothing would phase you
I like turtles
Dang one word. INTIMIDATING
Paul M what a jackass instructor lol why would he put you through that
Good Job! Very Professional. I am a retired controller. Started my career at Chicago Executive (Pal-Waukee) in 1974 and then went to O'Hare tower in 1977. I worked in the tower until 2004 when I took a job in the offices as a Planning and Procedure Specialist ( I got too old to work air traffic) and retired in 2014. Thanks for making this video it brings back good memories. It takes courage to fly a single engine into O'Hare in the midst of all the jets. Again you are to be commended for your professionalism and Preparation. God Bless You. Thanks again.
Any advice for a job outside air traffic control? Current high functioning jail guard.
"Look left... no, your other left."
Lol, we all do this.
It's important to specify which left you mean when you say left.
COOL! I once landed a Cessna 172... VFR at SFO...(my friend had a flight out of there)
So I called ATC from over Monterey, told them destination SFO...Expected a curse "NO CESSNA". Was
shocked when they approved and told me to report over Moffit Field...a long straight in final approach....switching to the Tower,
1 mile final I started to put in 1 notch of flaps...Tower said "Keep your speed up Cessna"
So went in, NO FLAPS, power dive at over 120 knots. landed smoothly...as per tower instruction made turn off....then taxied about
3 miles to General Aviation...Experience I will never forget.... taking off 2 hours later was a challenge.
The conversation at 8:38 is hilarious.
Pilot: "Take a glance off to our left"
Co-Pilot: *Looks right*
Pilot: "Left. The other left."
"Okie dokie"
Co Pilot for a reason lol
Co-Pilot: *Looks right*
Pilot: "Left. The other left"
Pilot: *thinks* omfg I'm going to die in a flaming ball of twisted Cessna metal because my instructor doesn't know his directions, aren't I?
In a boat or ship it is always best to use starboard and port. Two people facing each other will look in opposite directions when you tell them to look left.
They will look in the same direction when you tell them to look to the port side.
@@jordanrobson3166 And here is the scary part.. the co-pilot was his Certified Flight Instructor.
I'm not a pilot and I was stressed out watching this.
Excellent job and I'm sure it's something you'll never forget.
Beautiful ATC work - I'm sure Center and tower were all very appreciative. Aircraft handling was precise for both the GS and Loc. ATC kept the heavies and fast flyers separated off your tail. This was truly a joy to watch and listen to. Definitely not something I would want to attempt without my trusted CFI in the right seat. (lovely photography too.)
Cynthia Klenk thank you!
Another CFI and I flew in from DuPage to O'Hare in a new F35 Bonanza back in 1979. We worked at DuPage Aviation, the largest Beechcraft dealer in the Mid-West back in the 1970's. We would sometimes pick up new planes from the Beech factory in Wichita. Anyway, to O'Hare, the Approach controller asked if we could keep our cruise speed up to around 160 as long as we could until short final. He wanted to sequence a jet in behind us. As young men, we got a real kick and we had little fear. Now, I'm a different person. Anyway, January 1979 was one of the coldest winters Chicago had in many years. Also, the snow drifts from plowing on the sides of the runway must have been at least 10 ft high. I recall as we were cleared for take off to the Northwest, the tower asked us to make a right 270 degree turn as soon as possible. We complied. I recall a long line of "heavy" jets waiting in line for us to depart. As soon as it was safe, we raised the gear and made a steep climbing right turn to the West. It felt like we broke ground in a few hunderd feet because it was so cold outside. Someone watching from the taxiway said "give that guy a Kewpie doll". My buddy in the right seat said "we'll take it", and we were on our way. I'll never forget that experience. That was 38 years ago.
i recall taking off out of Riverside enroute to Hollywood/Burbank to shoot ILS landings on a clear VFR day. While under the hood and with an observer aboard, we were cleared for takeoff by Riverside tower with the instructions to switch to Ontario Radar at about 2000'. I was getting ready to request direct transition to Victor 26 thence direct El Monte when departure control, in a very hurried voice, instructed "Arrow one niner one two tango turn left 180 immediately". I immediately complied without acknowledgement when my observer said "HOLY -HIT". I immediately whipped the hood back and there in my cross path at maybe 500 higher than me was a C-5 Galaxy heading approximately 270 to the Norton transition. I immediately chopped power and put the nose down waiting for the wake turbulence to hit us..........it never came. We got lucky. I continued heading 180 directly towards the Cleveland National Forest mountain range waiting for departure control to vector us back to Victor 26.....and waited....and waited...and waited...finally I said "Ontario departure control Arrow 12 Tango"...he responded "12 Tango go"...I responded "do you intend to vector us back to Victor 26 or do you want us to continue into the mountain". Needless to say I cancelled IFR, flew directly to Ontario VFR and filed a near miss report.
I too Have been into Ohare in a 172, a C210, and our Family Aztec. Its always been fun, especially with the older Taxiway names,,,,,Inner/Outer/Lake Shore drive, ect......Plus Butler Aviation used to be where the United terminal was built. $5 to park all day! They used have a stub Runway 18/36 next to the VOR. You always landed 18....and departed 36....no matter what the wind was!
"give that guy a kewpie doll..." lol wtf does that mean
I was always interested in piloting but 5 years ago I watched this video and man it made me fall in love with it even more ....now I'm watching it again
Just watched your video and I really enjoyed it because I've done the exact same thing, also in a 172 and about 9:30 pm, albeit many years ago when it was called a TCA. Working on my Instrument rating at MDW one evening my CFI asked me if I'd like to go to ORD. He said "you fly, I'll handle the radios" and it worked perfectly. Everything you said about flying in ORD airspace with much larger and faster aircraft is absolutely true. Calling ahead, being professional, ditto. To taxi among airliners, with their nose wheel headlight at about the same height as the rear window; it was light the sun. Every controller we talked to treated us just like everybody else, very professional and courteous. Thanks for posting, I'm glad I found it; I'll watch it again and again. My experience was WAY before personal video!
"I don't always land at O'Hare, but when I do, it's in a 172..." (insert troll face)
Haha. Epic troll comment.
That comment just won the entire Internet.
John Dennis i reckon the dude is somewhat bold...d young and bold live faster....
John Dennis Thanks for the belly laugh ;)
You are welcome to troll here anytime.
Impressed that they allow a Cessna into Chicago O' Hare. Here in Britain you cannot fly a single engine over London let alone land at Heathrow.
StavroJones That’s downright dystopian.
Heathrow only opperating two runways requires airlines to purchase Slots and time periods in which to land in. No way would you be able to land a Cessna at Heathrow p, at least without spending a coup,e hundred thousand first
Unless it’s on a Spifire, then you are even allowed to fire warning rounds on approaching German airliners.
Youtubax hahahaha
Well in America we have a little thing called freedom!
As a former pilot of learjet and current owner i enjoy watching this videos.
Chicago is beautiful from the air at night. I will never forget my first night flight over the city.
From the air, the LED replacement campaign that the region is going through is remarkably apparent. You can see the line very well where they have yet to replace the sodium vapor lights. I go to Chicago every week, and on the ground it's a whole different experience with the LED's now.
+Michael Tovar Grew up with the orange streetlights, it was practically as bright as daylight all night long. Chicago lights are still more yellow than the surrounding suburbs. Makes it easy to find your house on the video if you live under the flight path like I do : )
Hard to believe it's been 8 years! I believe this is my favorite 101 video. Thanks.
I started my training when I turned 16 out of Midway INT. I sure know the struggle of flying with O'Hare right next door. none the less well done
Now fly into ATL midday.
ATL and ORD are pretty much equal on stats, and midday would just be rude. Lol
+MrAviation101 Dumb question, why do you wear your wedding band on the right?
+SenorMateo Done it, bad idea.
+LUpilot2012 +MrAviation101
I'm not sure why you guys think Chicago is just as busy or busier than ATL. Just look at the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. ATL had 46 million passengers last year while ORD had 33 million...... ATL is by far the busiest airport in the world.
+Jordan Wagoner It's because the FAA uses number of aircraft operations to rank how busy an airport is. Not passenger traffic.
Brought bake some good old memories for me.
I took flying lessons back in the 70's and got my Associate Science Degree in Aviation Tech from a local college. Got my instrument and multi-engine rating.
The airport I started with and learned to fly in and out of was Cleveland Hopkins Airport.
Not as big as Chicago but still not a small airport. Cleveland does have parallel runways and I just never really thought much about it. On one flight I had a passenger film a United flight landing to the my left at the same time I was landing.
I never did fly into ORD but didn't feel intimidated by it ether. It just never came up as a destination.
Some other notable airports I flew in and out of were TOL, CVG, ATL, and MCO.
Good memories... Life is good!
I am strictly a passenger, but have flown into O'Hare at least a dozen times. I've also flown into Metro(Detroit), Hartsfield, Gatwick, Heathrow, Charles De Gaule, Orly, Hobby, Inchon and others. There's nothing like flying into a huge city at night. But to successfully pilot a plane.
WTG
Beautiful landing, guys. Thanks for sharing. Congratulations and keep spreading your wings!
COOL! you even got AeroLogic (BOX) on the radio!
Mr. Aviation. Thanks for the video. I think the commenters lost the point of your upload. Regardless of what busy airport you fly in to. You better have your wits about you. Pay attention to ATC. A Cessna or any small aircraft flying into a larger aircraft or the other way around is a bad day for all concerned. Great job!
Flew a cessna into Newark last night. Putting a 172 down right behind a 757 was... an experience
Wow this is amazing to me. I can’t imagine ever flying an airplane. Really impressive, nice work!
Just completed my first night landing this evening in a 172 M. My home airport (KPBG) is the former Plattsburgh Air Force Base which is uncontrolled airspace and is 11,000’ long. Almost had an anxiety attack watching this !!! Great vid. Thanks for sharing. A good learning tool for us newbies to experience the work load, concentration and attention to detail needed for traveling in class B airspace.
Thats pretty cool. That runway is so much bigger than that plane needs.
First thought: All those parallel runways! Second thought: Wait, those are streets...
Good vid, you have convinced me never to fly into Bravo airspace :-)
rAvensBBr Unless you do it frequently or you need to do it and have someone experienced with you I think that's wise.
I'd be freaking nervous too.
I know the big airports almost sleep late at night. Only a handful of cargo planes coming and going.
If you want to do this again you could try DFW at about 2am.
The city yellow lights are so bright and beautiful! Very romantic!
This is amazing. I am watching a dream in HD. I wish I ever have the chance to do the same.
You actually do?
5:15 German Cargo (AeroLogic) on the radio.... :D That's so funny to hear as a German! xD
+n.stoeterau I recognized the german pilot even before i understood the callsign ;-)
+Christian Lang (MasterTRL) Yeah, me too! Most German airlines only require ICAO language proficiency level 4, pronunciation isn't that important... :D
haha, dachte ich mir als deutscher auch xD
NiklasStøterau what level have Asian airlines then? -2?
NiklasStøterau I
Every flight is training after all. I can imagine how you felt putting that one in your log, as you mentioned. Another step up the ladder.
The light is actually really beautiful. I love it.
8:37 "Take a glance off to our left. Left. The other left." Hahahah!
As an ATCO Id honestly appreciate any extra knot you can squeeze out of a Cessna. 90 or 100 doesnt seem like a whole lot of a diference, but when you have a heavy aircraft behind you at 160 in sequence you dont want to be dragging your feet :)
5:54 damn what a view 😍
Dudes, Palwaukee close to my home!
Wish I'd know ya'll then, could've picked you up and had a cookout at our house! A few great general aviation airports by us as well.
Probably the coolest flight video I have watched so far, the night, the lights... sooo awesome...
Working with Chicago approach, There is plenty of Cessna's dropping off into ORD. Storytime is always great on TH-cam.....
Your CFI seemed really nervous to me...
I felt it
Yeah, he needed a drink...
Dominick Franchino He needs to drink me.
Dominick Franchino who wouldn’t be man small plane going into a international airport
he thought "this kid has way too much money he didn't earn."
AIr flight is so common we forget the intimidating quantity of detail and preparation that go into it. Thank you for the impressive reminder.
What do you do with the plane after you land?
Pay for parking?
Real question here.
Thank you
They said that they were going to land, stop, and leave again to head for the smaller executive airport just to the north, they only wanted to come in to the big one for the experience.
How much did O'Hare charge for that landing?
+allencrider $999,999,999,999,999.99
+geese In the US you don't pay landing fees. But you will often have to pay handling fees etc..
+allencrider I'm pretty sure landing fees are based on size/weight and # of Pax...
Though the Bravo's will sometimes waive the landing fee if its a late-night/early-morning quick turn like this was, a taxi-back doesnt automatically excuse you from paying the landing fee.
Given the pilot did his homework calling ahead, he may have setup the payment of the landing fee in advance and some airports will record N numbers and send a bill to registered owner almost like parking tickets.
usually they waive it for a stop n go. more of a nuisance to collect it when the majors are paying upwards of thousands of dollars per day.
Very cool! As a former controller and now instrument approach designer, I found this very interesting. I remember telling the Aero Club Cessnas in Korea if they couldn’t get here in the five minutes they would have to wait another half an hour until all the fighters were down.
Outstanding job!!!! Flying a 172 into Class B airspace is not easy very intimidating. I know from experience flying in to George Bush international (Houston) in a 172, Archer, and a Debonair. Shooting ILS and VFR approaches, like you I did it for the experience and training (plus it was a lot of fun). Very well executed radio calls and spot on course/altitude changes. I'm sure your old instructor is proud. Continue the great videos and help keep the spirit of Private Aviation alive!
Its not a matter of being brave (I don't think so). Just like you said its all about knowing your limits and not exceeding your confer zone if it is not necessary. When I would go there it would usually be a night flight when the traffic is died down a bit. I will also call the controllers and ask when is the best time to come and run the ILS. Most often then not it will be some time in the evening. I would encourage you to try is at some point. If you don't feel like you can go to IAH then go to HOU (Hobby).
Now in days it would be a little less intimidating, The reason why i think that is because of that merge with the airlines we had recently and even though these large hub airports lost some business in the outcome, it did however helped clean up the clutter in some of this class B airspace to where their not as a redundant challenge for private aircraft to fly into anymore, most especially KCVG KSTL and KPIT, Matter in fact if you want my opinion i think we have too many big name national airlines flying this days compare to other counterpart countries and not enough Private aviation as used to
Small aircraft landing in a busy airport at night seems thrilling
Good job! Seemed like your CFI was more amped up than you!
That's what I was thinking! "Now the student has become the master." lol
Pretty cool. Surprised to literally no traffic as you were coming in. Glad you mentioned it at the end, I didn’t catch it anywhere in the video.
Which camera did you use on top of the plane. The picture quality is awsome
Brendan Paull I think that’s a Sony bridge camera mounted upside down on the windscreen.
Its nice but its equipped with a FISH EYE "wide angle" lens which gives you a FALSE impression of the land ...
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Back during the Vietnam War I was flying freight into Chicago ORD carrying everything from mail to ammunition casings in a Cessna 206 with a beefed up engine and a feathering prop from our Rapid Air base in Milwaukee. Most of the three to five landings, five days a week,were after dark checking in over waypoint Northbrook for a straight in approach at full speed until reaching the freight ramp about three quarters down the left runway to a screeching tuck onto the ramp leading to the Continental freight hangers. Return trips to MKE commenced after being granted an “immediate left hand turn-out, which means taking off from the taxi way. Absolutely glorious memories, even under IFR rules.
I remember the first time I flew a commercial flight to Chicago, it was at night. Something so incredibly gorgeous about all those lights.
The is a small carrier called Cape Air that flies into O'Hare. I've flown it before and it was really interesting to be in a Cessna and weave around the big boys.
Living in Chicago, I barely see anything but Airliners coming in so seeing this is just amazing! Much love to you for deciding to come to Chicago!
Next time: *flies a cessna into area 51*
that's pretty good
Flying into Orlando International is hectic as well. Orlando Approach does a great job with a very tight pattern that brings you across the numbers on an Upwind then a tight Crosswind, Base and Final and gets you in quick while not tying up traffic. Awesome video!
What a beautiful view
Very cool video. You most likely flew over my aunt and uncle's house. The street they live on is inline with one of O'hares runways and their house is just across the freeway from the airport. They were pretty low by the time they went over. It's a 12 hour trip for me to visit them so nowadays I don't get to visit much. As a kid who loved planes it was always exciting for me. Back in those days they had a plane overflying their house every 60 seconds pretty much around the clock. Since the airport has expanded, I believe they are now rotating arrivals more but I'm not 100 percent sure about that.
What a great clip. So cool that you took us along!!!! Thank you.
Hey kids. This isn't as complicated as you think. Wanna fly? Go for it. LEARN STUFF. you.can do it.
if you have money, I guess then it's no big deal
I really enjoyed this video! I live under the O’Hare flight path so I could literally point out my house from your video! That being said, I have never seen anything smaller than a business jet fly in. Congratulations on a well executed plan!
I didn’t know Nick Eh 30 was a pilot as well 😭
Well done between pilots, air traffic and ground. The view over Chicago (particularly the city light radiating against the clouds) was amazing. The many camera views were really nice. Thanks for the flight! Keith
K A Yeah, I had just went to and from O’Hare (since I lived there up until a little over 1 year) and unfortunately it wasn’t dark either time so I didn’t get to experience that, it sucks. I also wished I could see a sunset too, but guess not
@@E3T7 Regardless, thanks so much for the 'fly along.' Your video is truly the best. Being a private pilot and flying into an airport of heavies was truly great; what video perspectives!
I thought of my late grandfather who was one of the first CAA (later FAA) certified flight mechanics and later a private pilot.
Harvey literally worked next to Norma Mortenson, 'Marilyn Monroe,' at the Radioplane company (how lucky was he!!!) making target drones; he even made a Radioplane drone model by hand (that I cherish today).
Thanks for the reply, by the way! Keith
Did know why this was recommended to me but i like it. There's no way i could be a pilot having to talk that and listen to numbers that fast.
Gorgeous pictures. Thanks.
So this is why i had to hold my 737 over o hare that night
Ive taken a cessna into ATL and a Bonanza into MDW...its a memory
how expensive is to land there?
If Im not wrong...
9,217$ x 1.000 lbs
... this plane had to pay around 42$ to land in KORD.
Yes
The visuals were awesome
Too cool. BTW the biggest airport I've flown into was Quad City International Airport or what is also called MLI.
Outstanding job. Thanks for sharing the experience with us.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Just beautiful.
I sense a lot of fear in that cockpit, especially from the right seat.
That was pure exhaustion from Oshkosh you sensed. Haha
LAX while it's still under construction at 5pm. That airport is such a damn mess, holy shit lol
beautiful night lights !
This whole thing was fascinating to me. Thanks for that. TH-cam recommendations did it right... Again.
Hahaha What fun!!! You brought back some great memories for me when I did exactly this to ORD in a 172 way back in 1990. I had about 80 hours total time, working on my Instrument Rating, flying with a buddy who was my Safety Pilot. We landed on 14L (back when that was a runway). 14L/32R was later renumbered to 15L/33R, and has since been decommissioned. I now fly for a regional out of ORD (very bumpy career, never going to a major).
Regarding speeds, Chicago typically wants 300 KIAS until you're cleared below 10,000. Then they want 250 KIAS until you're on a right downwind for 27R, usually at 7,000 MSL. Somewhere abeam the numbers they reduce you to 210 KIAS, drop you to 4,000 MSL. You get a right turn to 180° a few miles east of the shoreline, followed by a 240° to pick up final for 27R. In a jet they would almost never take you to 27L when you're coming in from the north, only if the airport is dead, which it almost never is.
We were nervy back then. We didn't call ahead and just were getting flight following VFR over the field when we asked if we could land. After we landed we asked for a control tower tour, and they obliged! Chicago controllers are by far the best in the world, both in professionalism and just being great human beings. I love operating out of ORD. It's such a zoo all the time, and the operation would come to a complete standstill if the controllers weren't as good as they all are.
It's great that you did this, and you did it absolutely correctly. It's always good to get a bit outside your comfort zone especially if you're with someone more experienced. Best of luck in your future career!
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Awesome video and very motivational . Cheers from madisonville texas
john taboada Im from Willis here
It seemed very funny that a small plane would even land at O'Hare and I'm sure it was a bit of a nuisance to them when they're very busy with large aircraft. I honestly just watched to see how ridiculous it looked. Hopefully you got that out of your system and will stay with the smaller airports as that's HUGE overkill landing at such a busy airport if it's not an emergency landing.
BA heavy we got you on hold right now because of a Cessna going 100 knots 😂
That was exciting to see. Thanks and very well done. A fine example of how to do things for others thinking of doing similar. Enjoyable :)
I flew my cirrus into ord twice. The second time they kept us over Lake Michigan holding for over an hour.
Cesna, the rats of the sky
First its Cessna, 2nd at least they are flying...
Hardest part is taxing around that airport 🤪
For such a painfully slow plane this was awesome to watch!
Damn that view.
I would love to see the entire uncut/unedited footage from the nose of the plane from this video.
The most satisfying video I have ever seen on TH-cam
Nice landing. Beautiful city to see at night.
absolutely stunning to watch! beautiful!
instantly reminded of Microsoft flight simulator when this started. Was bizarrely mesmerised by the whole thing though!
I know this is a old video but dammm what an awesome view and good job