Priceless Console DESTROYED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- The game system was irreparably ripped apart. A prototype Apple Pippin was recently destroyed by US Customs when imported from Europe.
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This type of customs work deserves judicial punishment. There has to be someone who can stop this kind of abuse.
There isn't. The world governments have ruled that their customs and contractors are immune from their actions
Maybe customs would be more careful if damaging property actually affected their pay?
Wait, so US Customs can destroy whatever is in the package and they do not respond in any way becouse of it?
@@sol_fatguy The sender can file an "administrative tort" claim with the CBP, which can take up to 6 months to review, then if unsuccessful the only other option is to sue.
Lawsuit
Maybe customs shouldn't exist and they should just let people live their lives without terrorism and privacy invasion
@@stevebanning902 or the people at american customs could just work like the ones in other countries. i mean, i never heard such stories from any other country
US Customs has the combined brain power of two dust mites
Okay, this comment got me rolling.
Incorrect 0.5 dust mites
This is unacceptable. You have every right to sue. Especially for something one of a kind and priceless. Don't let this stand.
actually would sue ngl
There needs to be a way to keep US Customs accountable. This is unacceptable.
I had american customs take apart a whole package of sweets I was sending to a friend in america. I declared everything inside. Not only did they take two weeks to inspect it, they also ate most of the sweets inside. The only thing left in the end wqs ahalf eaten bag of gummybears. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest after that.
You got busted with an FDA inspection.
Gotta make sure there aren't any deadly deadly Kinder Eggs.
At least your package made it to its destination, mine went dark 3 months into it's shipping
They did something similar when I imported snacks as well. As far as I know they didn't eat any, but they did shred the original box and use it as padding in a new box.
LMAO I'm sorry for your friend but this sounds like it could come right out of a sitcom. Real Life has become a parody of itself.
I’ve honestly don’t get why Customs would want to destroy a product like that during shipping, especially for prototype hardware…
Cause they can, youd be surprised
@@cloudzack1090 customs don’t care about if the product is a prototype or not
I don't know either but if I were to guess: Underpaid people being told to examine suspicious objects and doing the least amount of effort to get their job done, finding excuses for this kinda unprofessional examination if anyone even bothers to file a complaint. It sucks... but that's how it is.
@@johnnycha well, I guess you get why they do it then! Lol
They might have thought it was another bootleg console
I swear every time customs see anything rare/prototype/price worthy there's like six sense activation that just scream "destroy!"
Or steal.
This has happened with prototype games too! It really sucks
Ye someone was getting a sealed ipod and in came in open and all scratched
@@morganb900Dankpods?
@@GoyBenius_0901 yes
if you watch any channel about Apple repair or Imported resale, you know US customs has a agreement with apple to destroy or seize any product with a Apple logo or declaration, regardless of its Authenticity or Legallity
got a link? i am interested in learning more about this.
That sounds very illegal
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If that's true, then this is bullshit!
customs completely destroyed a gift basket my aunt sent to my cousin, he was advised that the package was being held up to look for drugs. They simply broke EVERYTHING.
I bet that while the officials were preoccupied with destroying everything present, several crates full of cocaine passed right behind them.
I wonder how many packages with drugs they actually find vs how many innocent packages they needlessly destroy? I'd guess they hardly find any drug packages because the people sending them know how to package it so they won't find them.
A collector here on TH-cam in Japan has also had arcade boards destroyed by ebay's "global shipping program".
Ohh I remember that, that has been years if not a decade at this point. However ebay's "global shipping program" is a MASSIVE scam. And it's a big reason why I rarely buy anything from the US as most ebay sellers from the US only want to ship internationally with GSP (Why they can't fill out a simple form is still a mystery to me), and if I do I do it without GSP. Every time I've ordered anything with it it's been damaged, and they act as a trusted customs middleman that heavily overcharges. They also repack stuff badly, to lower their shipping cost. (For context up till 2022 there were no import tax on electronics in my country, shipping would cost around 10 USD their "customs charge" was 20. I needed to pay 20USD "pre-paid import tax" for an item without import tax. They then claim you can get it back, but after 2 hours on the phone ebay pointing at Pitney Bowes US, Pitney Bows US pointing at Pitney Bows UK, and they pointing back to PB US. I got sick of it and gave up. I've tried a few times with other stuff but same shit)
Granted GSP ain't US customs.
I got my first ebay negative feedback from a French buyer saying I should be ashamed of myself for how I packed his board loosely in a box and it rattled to death. I was confused and found out about Ebay's global shipping program. I package all PCBs with TONS of bubble wrap and extra inches in every axis before the box. They were utterly incompetent idiots.
Edit: I am a U.S. seller
@@airthrowDBTep, I've seen eBay enable GSP automatically without sellers knowing.
I tried to buy something from a seller in the UK who wasn't aware that GSP was enabled on their account, and they cancelled my order. I eventually got so angry that I searched for and found a third-party package forwarder that allowed me to just buy an Amazon UK return of the same product (it was new but the packaging was damaged).
They send EVERYTHING to one facility in Kentucky, it must make the candy factory in I Love Lucy look sedate
Ebays global shipping program also makes everything take 300x longer than it needs to
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYYYY HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET HARD WHEN IT'S DESTROYED
I know! 😭
😞😞😢😢😢
Can confirm. Hardness vibe has been killed.
Hardness gone!
@@hard4games soft4destroyedgames
If it was imported from European union, he could and should press charges against them. This is not acceptable by EU law and there's several consumer protection laws and regulations
Ouch! 😢 I’ve repaired plenty of vintage Macs (at a component level) if you want me to take a crack at fixing this unit I’d be happy to try.
It looks to me as if all the PCBs were still intact, just mostly the cable that was cut or ripped.
They should get sued into oblivion about this. Opening it up is fine, or if something happened by accident.. but they straight up ripped those ribbon cables apart. No measure in the world should justify this.
Lmao you cant sue customs
Opening it up is not fine either. Nothing inside would be any of their business
@@MozTSwhy not?
@@subtledemisefox customs can look inside if they decide it's suspicious. There is no concrete definition on what makes something suspicious.
You can indeed hire a lawyer to pursue relief for fucking your shit up beyond the scope of the search. It wouldn't be a lawsuit but there is a process to make things right
I had a Samsung Odyssey I imported from South Korea absolutely wrecked by customs years ago, and I saw on Facebook some guy who imported a graded sealed copy of Pokemon blue have both the casing and the box ripped to shreds.
That’s why I cringe at the thought of international buyers, I question how long the items will last the process to ship it overseas..
"How would you feel if that were your package?"
"but it isn't my package"
Mark your packages as gifts for veterans when shipping overseas. It helps a lot :)
haha I wouldn’t be surprised
they would be destoryed even more because according to the us government any and all veterans are nazi terrorist
"Oh how awful. Did customs at least use proper care? To shreds you say. How is the buyer holding up? To shreds you say." - Dr Farnsworth
Wouldn't be surprised if this was shipped with eBay's Global Shipping program since there notorious for destroying things during inspection for no reason.
This isn't just a rare tech item issue, but even rare collectables too. Customs has ripped opened seal vintage packs of cards and toys before; instantly taking a thousand dollar item and reducing it to nothing.
I imagine the US Customs saw the "Pippin Concept Prototype" paper attached and literally just went, "Joke's on you, I can't read!"
Customs apparently has a license to destroy personal property.
It seems like it. If they could needlessly destroy this than they can do it to anything with no repercussions. If somebody shipped a top of the line gaming PC that had $10,000 worth of components in it apparently they can just break the video card and motherboard in two and what are you going to do about. It really sucks that the world is like this. Where the government and law can do basically anything they want to and there is nothing you can do about it.
@@HerecomestheCalavera You know what the term for that is? Dictatorship. People think we live in a democracy. Yet I doubt anyone reading these comments ever would have "voted in" rules that allow the government to have these gross abuses of power. The system is so far gone and the people have lost the power to actually say or do anything. Your vote does not matter because red blue any side it's all going to stay the same: the government can and will do what they want and will not be held accountable for it.
Sounds like they need to be destroyed.
Drugs. It’s always drugs. Whoever took it apart was convinced there were drugs inside. Same thing that happened to the graded sealed Pokemon yellow. Customs is still in the middle of the “war on drugs.”
more a bomb, more often then not a lot of customs officers (at least in new york) are old baby boomers who think anything piece of tech that doesn't look like it was made before the 1970s is somehow a nuke created by Russia or the middle east that can go off at any minute
And didn't once think "um and if we're wrong, we just destroyed a rare apple pipin prototype for no reason"
Customs in general are brutal, no matter the country.
You bite the bullet and you spring for a plane ticket and you hand carry your priceless artifact home.
Perhaps the customs agent bought a Pippin back in the day and had an uncomfortable flashback?
I bought two Nokia 3330's from a contact in the home factory (Finland?) to me in the UK at the time. That time being around October 2001.
For some reason they passed through US customs and were burned on the tarmac at the airport.
I got two free replacements but I can't imagine what the manufacturer put on the box to get them ritually sacrificed in amerika.
I just can't believe how scared and paranoid Customs must be with the fentanyl crisis ☠️ they're destroying things like this or the graded Pokémon game the border is wide open i think narcs have better ways than hide in any of these
Man, now I'm nervous for my japanese Fire Red. It's already been two weeks since it was supposed to arrive, the seller can't find the tracking number, and now I'm thinking about customs obliterating the fucking cartridge.
I mean graded games are just a fucking scam tbh
I've been importing a lot of stuff lately and I didn't even consider that Customs could destroy my items. Now I have a new fear.
Didnt someone on reddit have their SEALED pokemon yellow destroyed this way?
Oh yeah, wasn't that a few years ago? I seem to recall that the box got a big gash in it.
Oh God, I remember that. It was worth so much money
@@thorbre577I remember the same happening to DankPods when he bought sealed classics
Honestly, why should the seller refund? It's not their fault unless they refused to insure the package.
Yeah, I agree. As bad as I feel for the buyer, it's really not the seller's responsibility to issue a refund. Heck, if one wanted to go to the logical extreme, the buyer is at more of a fault, since they're more responsible for the government that they vote for and pay taxes to, which in turn employs customs. If other words, they'd have more of a say in the process than someone from another country does. But, speaking as a US resident myself, I'm not sure what someone could do when something like this happens. :(
@@CarmenOfSpades that's why when shit gets lost in the mail and they tell you to contact the company/seller for a replacement I'm like bruh it isn't their fault 🤣
Customs need to be sued.
lol imagine a government that flushes billions of taxpayer dollars away every year caring about 1 person's damaged prototype of a failed video game console
@@71dembonesTV Completely missed the point.
@@GTVNewsForGamers no i didn't. I'm just a realist. Everyone should be responsible for everything they do; especially those exercising authority over others. But, in reality authority only holds certain individuals accountable (usually over relatively minor infractions) while big evil goes unchecked. You better believe that no amount of legal action against a juggernaut like U.S. Customs, especially over something like this will ever go anywhere.
Wow that is a damn shame. And it is crazy that customs can decide to basically destroy any package they feel like with absolutely no repercussions. It is criminal imo. The purposely destroyed someone else's property for no reason. Somebody needs to be sued but I guess that would basically be suing the government so you'd have no chance of winning. I don't even have an interest in the Pippin but for them to needlessly destroy such a rare one of a kind device is like I said criminal.
Hearing stories like this, I realise how lucky I was earlier this year when I managed to import to New Zealand a Vectrex from France - now all I have to do is work up the courage to re-cap it!
He should sue customs.
I own a freight forwarding company. It sounds like the seller didn’t properly fill out the customs invoice or a customs invoice was never found with the freight. Even then an invoice could have been with the freight but the wrong HTS code was used. If anything you need to talk to the carrier that handled the delivery and find out which field office did the search.
So they didn't properly fill out the customs invoice, and they can't just ask the shipper about it? Or send it back? Or anything but rip it apart?
Most of the issues like this I've seen online are specifically from ebay's "global shipping program" that runs the whole of ebay's international shipping in a single facility that seems to have too many of these "accidents". So much so that alot of collectors just don't buy anything relatively valuable internationally on Ebay on the chance its destroyed like this, or stolen.
@@arcticcircle9178 - It’s very important when buying internationally that everything is properly documented. Nothing comes into this country without it going through a system called AMS…if the shipper had issues in the past, CBP will flag the shipment and do an inspection. We really don’t know the issues surrounding it without the buyer calling the port that did the search.
@@slimjim2321 - Yeah that’s a big reason why I won’t buy anything of value online from an unknown source. If it’s from eBay, more than likely the shipper has been red flagged before for something.
How is there no legal recourse in any of this? _How_ is the neanderthal responsible for this not immediately terminated of employment _at minimum_ for this? In any prior job I held, this kind of blatant disregard for another's property would have had the person(s) involved instantly fired, at minimum. Possibly either facing charges or getting their pay docked to pay out.
If possible always pick these things up yourself, or have someone you know personally bring it.
Idiots at customs opened a nib transformers g1 I purchased from Canada, broke the styrofoam tray and stuck a giant sticker on the box to reseal it. Declared value was what I paid just over $600.
could it have been marked as VERY fragile or would that have not changed anything? because if something is marked as fragile and customs DESTROYS the item, thats gonna call some things in to question.
This goes a bit beyond just like dropping it during shipping
I can't believe it, i'm almost 16 years old and i'm so mad at the idiots over the "customs" it was sent.
Anyone familiar with Apple's track record with customs knows exactly why this was destroyed. We can't keep letting companies pay them to control bootlegs, when they dont have the time nor training to identify bootlegs.
They also shouldn't just fucking destroy bootlegs and shit
I saw a show with Canada costumes. Some people were also fined for not declare it right. Least we didn't hear that story.
and I thought customs stealing my xenoblade 2 switch pro controller was the worst that could happen
god the thought of a console being destroyed is horrible
I think all workers of customs should be better educated before getting the job because this will put customs workers in a lot of investigations in the future when it comes to rare and expensive unreplaceable items.
Man, if stuff like this were to happen to any of my consoles (or basically any electronic device) I would have bought during shipping, I’d be mad AF…
I can’t believe that Customs would do something like this, especially for this rare piece of hardware. I hate them.
1:41 possibly what happened is much of the damage happened in shipping from cutoms to final address, if that picture shows what the packaging looked like when opened, that heavy machine would beat itself to death during shipping. maybe customs did not put the screws back in or not enough of them and the thing exploded apart in shipping
yeah that makes the most sense, they ripped it apart in customs, and just didn't bother to put it back together when shipping it after
i know a few people that could potentially restore that, i've also seen some tech youtubers that could do the same, also you could probably save the data off the rom chips at least.
This looks repairable to me.
I know it's bad, and it will never be the same again, but it doesn't look from the photos that any PCBs are completely broken.
I'm sure some components have been broken off the boards in places, and probably some scratches, but somebody with enough patience might be able to repair it.
Disgraceful what customs did.
I was thinking the same. I think the only really hard part could be figuring out what those ripped wires/cables need to be soldered back on to.
@@piplup10036 That doesn't look too bad, either.
One of the main cables looks to be a 50-pin SCSI cable for the CD drive.
Some other random wires on the prototype probably aren't too hard to figure out.
I did some reverse-engineering before, for things like the SNASM68K dev unit, mainly based on PCB photos alone.
If somebody had the Pippin prototype to hand, and was motivated / determined enough, I think it's fixable.
1:39 On second thoughts, that cable seems to be connecting the top (green) riser card to the lower breakout board.
The CD drive has as separate cable going to the lower breakout.
The breakout board looks like the fully "custom" part which just connects everything together.
The top green board looks like a Mac motherboard (logic board), which would make sense.
The connection between the green mobo and the blue breakout board could just be a 1-1 pinout. The ribbon cable was just for convenience, and to allow the engineers easier access to both sides of the mobo, and to the lower board.
Ohh, the top green board is a graphics card.
They are using the ribbon mainly to extend the RGB output to the lower breakout board, so they could put a connector on the rear of the device.
I really want to have a chance of repairing this now. lol
(GoogleTube keeps auto-deleting my replies. It's incredibly annoying. lol)
I found some more photos of another one of the prototype units (on Twits).
The Pippin prototype is essentially just a Power Macintosh 6100/66AV, with the same gfx / capture card.
The only real "custom" parts are the riser board for the gfx card, and the large blue breakout board for the connectors.
This makes repair of the broken prototype even more feasible. The CD drive looks off-the-shelf, too.
Always ask for fast priority international shipping With tracking. Always demand bubble wrap and a sturdy shipping box. 😢
This particular custom had only two employees - baboon and caveman.
There are so many things I want to say, but they would all get me put on a watchlist...
Customs agents googled Apple Pippen and almost every result said it was a bomb.
and this is why euros rarely buy from america,not only is it expensive af but you gotta deal with this bs and they arrogantly just shrug at you.
but this only happens when americans buy shit from outside their country and the package goes through new york's customs office
I never even saw a single Pippin in any store back in the late 90's.
Thanks for reporting!
As long as all the parts are still there, there's still hope. Someone with enough patience and experience reverse engineering PCBs could potentially return it close to whatever state of functionality it was in before. The plastic and metal enclosures are another matter, and very sad, but nothing is irreparable. Have faith and keep what remains VERY safe.
Yeah, it's definitely repairable, doesn't seem like any of the PCBs were cracked
@@zazxazza exactly, and even if there are breakages we can't see, boards can be glued and traces can be run. Let's hope and pray!
0:29 😮
that was the Same as PS3 as Launch...... Roughly 10 Years Later!
Shame I didn't even know these protocols types existed
Still as useful as a regular pippin. It can be re-built, we have the technology! it doesn't look "that" bad.... plus its interesting to know they just painted a white case black. a bent board is not the end of it and those ripped off wires can be re attached.
They seemed in a rush to open it rather than think if they were wrong then someone wouldn't want it damaged. Seems to have been them being destructive for the sake of being destructive.
Wow.. some at the customs were really envy on this
customs loves destroying used apple hardware
The sticker said "NOT FOR RESALE". Maybe Apple sent out their agents to enforce this?
Don't be ridiculous lol
@@PiroKUSSIn times like this, it's not too hard to believe.
@@excalibur493 It's pretty absurd, though. I don't think Apple cares about their old stuff.
I literally had to take a moment to go “NOOOOO” when I saw this bc jeez how the heck and why the heck would they take it apart so poorly and pretty much destroy the thing?? That’s a piece of gaming history lost bc who knows how many are still even around
I've heard customs has been brutal toward the weeb collector market too, denting figurine boxes at the best of times.
Thats straight up vandalism
This is a customs moment.
Post 9-11 by a few years, my brother had imported a nice condition Ms PacMan cocktail cabinet from Canada into New York. US Customs drilled a hole in the side to insert a borescope. Citing the US patriot act and looking for drugs. Fortunately they didn't hit anything. The whole machine was in a wooden crate.
i think this is maybe fixable with a lot of work reparing all broken trace and so on and a good bucket or two of luck but OMFG WTF they used to open this air chisel / hammer?
The hell? Can you sue? Was the package insured?
Short, sweet, and depressing.
Thanks for the video!
That's seriously messed up even when I get a package. That looks like it's been destroyed. The item inside is usually perfectly fine.
I guess you could disassemble it yourself before shipping 😢 and send how to reassemble but who would think that was nessacery ?
I had the same problem when I bought used pal Dreamcast from overseas, thank god they removed only case from the console by using screwdriver. But for some reason stole screws from the console so I had to replace it from my knock-off Famicom console. Literally burglary.
That's pretty sad. I mean, this (the US) is a first-world country. But stuff like this makes you question what that actually means sometimes.
this usally seems to happens when out of country packages go through new york's custom office, I've been able to get stuff from europe and other countries no problem except the one time I bought an old thinkpad laptop and it went through new york, they smashed the fucker up real good
Actually, the bodies that decide this sort of thing recently classified the US as a failing state and issued a travel advisory.
This isn't normal customs work. This was pure malicious
I would LOVE to have that system just to see if I could work on it and possibly rebuild it.
Did the giant truck pass under the 8+8 bridge or something? lol :(
I know you were gutted Tony, especially for the owner. How's the fam? Thanks for the video.
3:21 The reason sellers may not want to declare proper value is the risk of the carrier being more tempted to steal it. I remember one of my online pals once sold a rare PC game that sold at auction for about $500, and they had some issues come up, somewhat expected.
And, Near's community had to raise commotion after a German seller was kind enough to loan them a box of very expensive PAL SNES cartridges for preservation purposes. It took that to get the package safely to Near, and hopefully eventually the games got back to the original owner after the process was done.
Did the guys from Office Space beating the shit of the printer get to this?
US Customs confiscated a package from China to me, that contained xbox debug/chihiro motherboards. No reason given. It was either random, or seller labeled it wrong and they decided to make an example. Either way, I'm sure they will end up at a gov auction in a random electronics box someday, and they will be scrapped.
This is one of those edge cases where murder as retribution should be legally permissible
What? Absolutely not. They destroyed a prototype that's bad but it doesn't make murder okay murder is never fucking okay
Crowbar to my Super Famicom Box. And broke open both cartridges. At least it still powered up but the front faceplate plastic took the brunt of it.
Maybe he can send it to Ben Heck, the guy who repaired the Nintendo Playstation. Maybe he can do something? Keep up the good work.
Pretty sure he’s been retired for some years now, missed watching his show
@@damian9303 He does his own thing and will pick up projects he's interested in. Has a weird TH-cam channel and Twitter leaning towards conspiracy theories.
@@damian9303His channel is Ben Heck Hacks.
That's really sad to see. Hopefully someone can try and piece it back together.
I had an issue with customs a few years ago when I bought some NOS Atari 2600 carts from Venezuela. They ended up holding my package and wouldn't let it in the country (US) until I gave them the manufacturers business address or something. I was not only surprised that they actually contacted me, but also confused as the original Atari had been out of business for many many years. I ended up giving them the old Sunnyvale address and told them that the company had been out of business for years (I was afraid that giving the current info of what 'Atari' is today's would have made things worse as they're not the same company from the 2600 days). I was shocked but it actually worked.
My guess is it was because the seller listed the value of the Atari carts as being worth something like $1 on the shipment declaration paperwork which raised some flags.
In my case, at least it ended up working out... though what I bought was 1 million times less valuable than a super rare prototype. What they did here is not only tragic but insanity.
Well dude so sorry this happened. When shipping goes wrong this couldn't have been the worst experience that has happened 😢. Of course customs has to do odd stuff. I had something returned back that was video game related and for whatever reason they deemed unsafe.
Honestly that looks illegal to have done as well considering it was shipped to you...
That situation is kind of far passed the point of neglect or unprofessional work from the custom, I'm not sure what could be done, but I hope he will get something. Would love to see them try something similar with a painting from a well known artist.
Sue them for damages.
US Customs is immune from lawsuits. The best he could do if file a claim which basically has zero chance of them paying.
Time to pour one out.
If it goes though New York this happens
Anywhere else it's fine.
I speak from experience
I warched the video as Ive known people with other expensive hardware that got utterly destroyed in the mail. I honestly do not think it is a low value vs big package thing. I honestly think that with the way customs work with electronic devices there is something fundementally flawed. While accurate reporting of what it is is important, i dont think that it is what happened this time. Customs needs to be overhauled.
Thank you very much Tony for this epic tale of video game history!
as much of a non apple guy I am seeing this possibly 1 of a possible like 3 prototypes especially in the wild this broke my heart to see, i'm sure someone like ben heck or similar could repair it for sure but it is a crime and devalues the item heavily, customs should be held accountable for this prototype or not they damaged a product unnecessarily to a poor state. and Xray could solve that.
To shreds you say...
I feel like a Bulldog wouldve done a better job in unassembling the unit, then Customs Employees
This is very sad.
Bright side: this would be a perfect opportunity for the FPGA preservation community to study its inner workings, as it cannot be repaired to original condition.