Great video. I am nearly 20 years into my contract flying and 30 years since selling the business and started the aviation career at age 39. 15000 hours all general aviation and have never had a job interview. It's been a great ride.
That’s fantastic! I’d love to speak with you to learn more about the specifics of what you’ve done as you might make a good guest for the show. Please email (first.last@gmail.com) or DM me on IG.
I'm about 35 yrs old myself as a Trucker currently. I've been looking to transition, but have my doubts. It seems a bit daunting when i start looking at the money needed to kick the whole thing off
@@VchaosTheoryVmake the jump! I was in the same boat and I have no regrets. Truck driving wasn’t fulfilling for me but just a means to an end. 3 years into flying and I’m not making as much as I was trucking quite yet.. but I love my job. I should be making more than I was trucking within the next year.
Great video. I am 57 years old and have been trying to figure out an aviation career 2.0 for the last 4 years before I run out of time. With 750 hours, Commercial - ME and Instrument rated, I am still trying to find a way transition to being marketable as a professional pilot while still paying the bills. Thanks for these type of videos.
TRENT!! OMG 🤯 as I've written sooo many times previously.. this is THE BEST STYLE OF VIDEO! Being in the same age bracket, similar past life career experiences, and similar or same end goals!! Love hearing about individuals our age doing excellent, going after and obtaining the career opportunities that exist! Truthfully Trent... Nothing better than this! Have a great weekend 💪🏻🇺🇸🛩️ and never stop! Ty 🏆🥇
This video gave me some much needed inspiration. New to flying, but as I’ve mentioned in other video comments I’m up to 5 days per week now. Sold my company back in January of this year and have been struggling to figure out what to put my heart into next. I feel more and more like my next chapter will be in aviation. Contract flying seems like a very interesting segment in aviation where your future is really in your hands! Thanks for great content.
Another great video! I’m with him 100 percent on being perfectly fine being SIC. I also don’t need the ego stroke of sitting left seat. I just really, really want this career 2.0.
Trent, really appreciated the video. You ask great questions. I am a 1450 hour pilot who has applied at over 45 companies, gotten resume coaching/re-writing, I constantly hang out at a very busy FBO in Denver, I’m on all the Facebook pilot groups, I’m a former entrepreneur (coffee shop) and am a real go-getter. I have had the complete opposite experience as this guy. I’m really happy for him, but according to my experience and every other guy I know in my position, this is nearly as rare as winning the lottery. I have thought about selling everything I own to get a Phenom type rating, but really trying to avoid that. Thanks though for the video!
Don't panic and go randomly pay for a type. There are a ton of 135 operators out there. That's what you need to target. Just getting a type is pointless if you can't meet the insurance mins, and you won't be anywhere close without building jet time. 135 ops can suck and they generally don't pay well, but it's the easiest way to get the experience you need in the logbook. Value one that will fly a lot over just pay. Think long term vs. what you can make today.
Amazing work Trent. Im working on my instrument and working on my commercial written. I dont really want to be an instructor. I also have a wife and kids that i dont get to see often because my school is in Florida and my family is in Nevada. So seeing these videos really gives me hope that i can make it happen without having to sacrifice any more time away from my family.
Trent, I want to know more about operating a business while flying so PLEASE make a video about wearing MULTIPLE hats while making a career out of aviation! Love and appreciate all of your videos!
Thanks, I'm about to get my CPL and I want to get into flying corporate as I still have many years before I turn 23 and I don't want to be a CFI for the next however many years, also seems like it would be really fun before the airlines to build hours and get a ton of experience for a some time!
Love this guy, he's got a great attitude, entrepreneurial and does it for fun. Perhaps my favorite career interview so far on this channel. Very encouraging to see what is actually possible at 800 hrs.
I’m looking into this 2.0 career, and the original commenter really hits this point - these are genuinely great guys, there’s stereotypes that pilots are cocky, I bet that’s the exception, considering the sincerity and humble confidence of these guys are both compelling personality traits but somehow makes this entire undertaking of mine less intimidating.
This is a great channel. I’m 45, 900 hours, commercial ASEL with instrument rating. Gonna knock out the multi next and then want to get typed on something so I can start career 2.0 as a contract pilot on the side until I can justify walking away from career 1.0 (attorney) for good. This video was amazing. Willing to “invest in myself” and get typed on my own dime but would love to chat with you both and work on the networking, if you ever have time. Thanks for putting these videos out. I got my PPL in 2005 but took a lot of years off for kids, career, etc. Love seeing guys switch gears later in life. Very motivating!
Not trying to rain on your parade, but the type is useless without the jet time and time in type. No one can or will hire you because of insurance. In this market, don't pay for a type unless you've already got contacts lined up. Take a job with a 135 or good 91 operation, let them pay for the type, build jet time, and go from there. This guy's in was a 135 operation as an SIC. That's how to get started.
Wow. This was amazing to hear. Presume nothing really gave solid insights. This helped peel back the anxiety and fear to accomplish 1500 hours. Discovery flight this week!
Nice 👍 one there Trent and I must say your interviews are constructive and intellectually done, am 40years old and an electrical engineer no Nigeria working towards becoming a pilot soon , but we don’t have opinions like those of you in America to flexing flight ✈️ training institutions, your channel has being a strong motivation Trent thanks 🙏
Excellent interview! Just reading through a few of the comments and it seems there are more of “us” older guys looking for a great career 2.0 then you might think. This is exactly the kind of gig I’m pursuing. Like you guys, I’ve owned and sold 2 businesses. After selling the first back in 1988 took my money and put myself through flight school. Was a full time CFI, then did 135 cargo, left the industry after 09/11. Build a portfolio of payment and payroll clients. Left that industry 09/2020 after 18+ years due to Covid closing so many businesses. Now with my newly acquired CFII as of 09/20/2023, I’m looking to build a aircraft acquisition, sales & management company while also doing part time piloting and flight training. I have the hours for my ATP but might just invest in the Citation type rating first. As for how old can we go.. my CFII, mentor and good friend is 85+. He and I were out doing short, soft field work in a Beech Sundower yesterday! We fly out of KALB if you’re ever in the area.
Hey Ron! Thanks for watching and sharing some of your story. Please screenshot you comment and send it to me in a DM. I’d like to talk to you more about it.
Amazing video ! content for us low hours pilots building for ATP requirement. I have sent my Resumer to multiple 135 and 91 operations no lucky phone call yet . Reaching 1000hrs by the end of years by instructing in a part 141 school in treasure coast Florida area. I’m ready to send my low hours Resumer to any open corporate pilot company who is in the hiring process SIC pilots. Any network recommendation are welcome. Great video ! So much value ! Great motivation! Good luck on your adventure Trent! Thx u David for sharing a better positive light on the corporate world of aviation!
I like the T-shirt. "Flowster" nice. I'm a t-shirt guy too. Great video on other parts of the Aviation industry. This aviation industry is bigger than I thought. Very educational and informative. Keep up the excellent work you are doing in the community. We all appreciated it.
Another excellent video! I am very similar to both of you. Owned several businesses and sold them. Retirement is not on my to do list. I’m at 500+ hours collecting ratings. While Looking for contract work. Thx!
I am 19, I have my student pilot certificate, and I am working towards my private pilot certificate. I just have to save some more money first because I only make 14 dollars an hour. I will be doing my training in a Bellanca Citabria. I think it is awesome to get to do my training in a tail wheel plane like most pilots did in the early days of aviation, something I don't think very many people do these days.
Excellent interview. I’m in such a similar boat with fixed and rotary certs. It’s so cool to hear that you’re flying heli tours while still juggling the 135 life. I definitely want to keep building my rotary hours but am looking forward to the fixed wing income and travel. Thank you both for sharing your time to do this!
Again great video! Love these interviews! As a small business owner this one really was fun/encouraging to hear for a future second career! Day rating! Some control of time! Investing - in yourself getting type ratings! Thank you great channel!
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Wow, that was so informative. Thank you for the insight on being a get your readings nerd. This is something I need to do and I will incorporate this into my lifestyle. Thank you so very much.
This is a great interview! I’m 37 4th career change currently going through part 141 school as a student pilot 🏫..and corporate route is where I want to go. And I want to structure myself the same way he does and operate like a business . I hope you have him on more often. I’m using my Veteran benefits for schooling not the GIBill part but the vocational rehabilitation part it’s for disabled veterans..I’d be willing to talk about it with you so other vets can get these benefits. If possible I’d love to get this guys information and use him as a mentor.
Glad you found it so helpful! You can find him on LinkedIn. Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!
@@ecaam Voc rehab for sure you get way more hrs and many other perks like new A30 head set laptop iPad back pack printer 🖨️ and anything else you need for supplies.!
Love seeing these vids Trent, been watching your content since the Online Income Lab days and been considering a second career in aviation. These vids give me hope.
You guys really should explain the acronyms as you go through them. Tough to follow. Im still following but only with a google search every 30 seconds.
Step 1 to becoming a pilot, learn the acronymns LOL. It takes time to pick them up but like any profession, aviation is filled with them.@@trent_dyrsmid
Awesome video and great content as this is what Im looking for . Im 58 , haven't flown in years but going the corporate route and then contracting on the side . At 1000TT+ CPL / IR/ME rated I can't wait to experience what's out there . Thx Trent and David
Recovering Part 121 regional Pilot here lol! Survived 3 years at the regionals before I decided that life wasn’t for me. Lucky enough to rack up 1300 hrs of jet time before getting a full-time position with my Guard unit. Would absolutely love to pick up a side gig just like this!
I'm really curious, the G700 is brand new so there won't be many of them flying around. Would you have a rough idea on the daily pay rate of SIC/PIC contract rates? For reference G4/G5 daily pay rates are around $2K.
I currently have my instrument rating and am working toward my commercial license. Alot of foreigners come to America to get hired by an american airline because it pays so well, meanwhile alot of Airlines in europe hire at 250-300 hours. Is it practical to convert FAA ratings into EASA ratings to get hired by a european airline? this would work around becoming a CFI and having to build to 1,500 hours. Then after flying for a european airline up to 1,500 hours you could apply for an American Airline. Any insight into this? or any ways to work around becoming a CFI?
I don’t have much insight into that yet. I’ll see what I can find out. Thanks so much for watching one of my videos! I really appreciate you taking a moment to comment! I read every comment personally 🙌
@@trent_dyrsmidHey Trent, I’ve talked about this with my DPE before. He has Dual Citizenship (USA and Italy) while I (Portugal and USA). This is definitely an option. However, finding a job is much harder. Yes, 250 is the legal requirement, however many airlines require it to be hire. If you want to build your hours that way, it is totally do able but you need to know where to look
@@vinnyperry6200as an American I'm also interested in the topic as it's seems to be a viable alternative to obtaining the necessary hours and gaining practical turbine experience. Ty 🏆🥇
I hear in a lot of cases you need to "know someone" to get hired at the minimum hour requirment. You've confirmed that for me. Thanks for the insight!@@vinnyperry6200
Hey Melissa…you’re welcome! Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!! BTW, I’ve got a free email course on how to become a professional pilot as fast as possible. The course covers things like how to study to the written exams, how to pick a school, how much to expect to spend, how to get financing, etc….If you’d like to gain access, just go to FlyWithTrent.com and become an email subscriber.
So what’s the best type rating to get first? Citation? Phenom? I’m looking at going this route but want to start with the one that will get me the most opportunities
Generally speaking you should never, ever pay for even a portion of training or type ratings. Those days thankfully are long gone. That being said, as long as you require market rates for your services, more power to you. Just realize you are competing with people that don't view it as a "gig" and are literally trying to feed their families contracting. I did it during covid on larger cabin stuff. It's fun and highly profitable but a total grind.
Paying for training is always an intersting disucssion. Chefs often make bad restaurant owners becuase they don't think like business people. A CEO thinks if I could spend $6500 for a new type rating and make more than $25,000 in the next 4 months would I? The answer is HELL YES! Plus I have that rating for the rest of my life and just have to keep it current. Recurrent training costs money and also is part of the contractor business. It is all factored into the cost of doing business. I don't hesitate to invest in myself if I think the ROI is there.
@@dhilbish Absolutely correct if you are strictly going into the contract market. Being a W2 employee of an operator that wants you to share or pay for ANY training on their equipment is a completely different animal.
Great video, Trent! Im interested in knowing what resources David uses for finding contract jobs or for finding out what demand there is locally to determine which type ratings I should focus on to become more marketable. Thanks!
all this info is great! What kind of suggestions would you be able to provide for someone that's almost 40 and is looking to start a pilot school? I do not own a company that I can sell so a loan would be my first option. I was looking at Propel but there's not much out there about it. I'm wondering about the length of time that it takes for you to start actually working. Is working as an actual private pilot a thing after you get your certification and are working on a commercial? i really enjoy watching the videos. Thank you for posting it.
You cannot earn a dime without being a CFI-S or having a commercial pilot license. As for flight school advice, I’ve covered that in a number of my past (most popular videos)
next step?? for a Canadian Licensed and -FAA Commercially licensed SMEL Ms760 Jet typed- 61yr old Pilot with 1460TT wants to become a Contract Pilot full time, ? and best and marketable Type rating ?
Trent, I have a question for you. I’m 47, own and run a business, and own rentals too. David said through his corp he invests in himself. Do you know of a way to propose to my CPA how I can have my current company pay for training before I sell the company. Obviously it would reduce the income & tax liability, which in turn would reduce the value of the company, but I’m comfortable that I know I’d be able to explain that to whoever would be purchasing it. Thanks again for these videos.
Unless you can think up a legitimate use-case for why you need to fly for your company, it’d be a tough sell. Do you need to visit customers that are too far to drive to? That might do it.
Thanks Trent. I think there may be a tax break if I sold my current co at a profit and used that money to start a new comp to fly. I’m open to ideas. Unfortunately, I’ve found so many CPAs not being willing to be creative.
Is there any insight on how to best network for the contracting? It helps when you dont have to pay for ratings and but i see the reasoning behind it. I did the same thing for CDL, endorsements that paid more for my work/ responsibility. BUT not at that kind of expense though.😊
Hang out at the airport. Get a job on the line at the FBO. Reach out to people on social media. Tell everyone what you’re looking for. Networking is WORK and that is why most suck at doing it.
A CPL requires 250 hours, of which 50 can be in an approved flight simulator. To become an airline pilot, you need 1500 hours and an ATP. Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!
I’m sorry, not being a contract Pilot myself I don’t know of any off the top of my head. I would guess that you could find quite a few on Google though.
Here's a video I'd like to see. Cheapest while simultaneously most productive way to 500 hours without instructing. What path if you consider it to be an investment in yourself? Also, how might you approach a long-time plane owner to go halves, and what is the legal process?
Becoming an instructor is the best way to master a craft. I was a scared scuba diver that took 3 tries to get certified. I stopped adding ratings as a PADI IDC staff instrcutor (Level 5 of 7) I feel I am a competent / proficient diver now. I learned so much about flying doing instuction. I only did about 200 hours of instrucition but it added well to my log book and really added to my experience!
Hey so im 22 with my private that i got in highschool. Im at 100 hours and thinking if a route to take here. It seems to me that going this route may even be better than shooting for my ATP and then going comercial, im finding that it doesnt seem necessary to become a CFI and just working in something like this instead. Is this train of thought flawed?
I’m 31 years old I want to switch careers and become an airline pilot and eventually land a job at a major airline. I don’t have a degree, I have a high school diploma with very poor GPA. Any advice? Should I still pursue this?
Shoot I just wanted to get a private pilots license to have freedom, now I want to do this. Flying commercial flights never really interested, but private contracting with that freedom to make your schedule is really appealing.
🙌🙌🙌 Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!! BTW, I’ve got a free email course on how to become a professional pilot as fast as possible. The course covers things like how to study to the written exams, how to pick a school, how much to expect to spend, how to get financing, etc….If you’d like to gain access, just go to FlyWithTrent.com and become an email subscriber.
Great interview! I'm about to start my PPL in the UK, does anyone know what I need to do on top to be able to fly small business jets? Can I do this with a fATPL? I have a business so I'm not too concerned about salary and would prefer contracting if possible.
Hey, I’m 18 years old wanting to make this a career. I have no clue the best way to start and I don’t really have the money to afford however I’m aware that if I want it I’ll figure out a way to fund it. Is this only done by networking with affluent individuals? Do I or should I do a degree first? Will I still be able To maintain a healthy work and family balance?
All good questions to which there is no “one right answer”. All I can tell you is the more people you talk to in aviation, the better your chances will be.
@@dhilbishThat sounds very similar to an outfit in the NC area that my CFI worked for and did the same thing up and down the East Coast. Mind sharing the home base to see if it's the same one?
I’m 51 and just got my instrument rating last week. About to start on my commercial. Currently only a little over 300 hours, but I’m looking at doing at least 25 hours a month. I have a really good paying job now, but I’m ready to do something I really enjoy for the rest of my working years. Looking forward to additional ratings and the opportunities that become available.
Hi Trent I just have a question about sport pilot license. I have a pacemaker and I’m a controlled diabetic that after being at a A1C of 6 constantly so maybe I can say I’m not diabetic anymore. Do you think that I could qualify for a sport pilot license seeing that I’m retired in Florida and need to keep busy all the time. My dream was always to fly planes and back when I was in my late 20s early 30s I had about 10 hours before I had to take care of family before me. I also had a small company that I sold and no pile of money but plenty to fly with. Thanks and keep up your videos as they are very informative and full of knowledge.
What if your business blew up years ago and you’ve been living paycheck to paycheck. How do you make a career switch like this without the means of self funding?
damn i have a job/career as a cdl truck driver at 20 years old and looking to be a corporate or airline pilot…sadly this may be a dream to never come true because of my disease. ah such a beautiful tragedy
@@trent_dyrsmid I figured Florida or California. I’m from Indiana starting to get into contract flying. I have 725 hours and I’m flying a citation 550 now, but my area just isn’t as busy so it’s tough to stay busy.
Great video. I am nearly 20 years into my contract flying and 30 years since selling the business and started the aviation career at age 39. 15000 hours all general aviation and have never had a job interview. It's been a great ride.
That’s fantastic! I’d love to speak with you to learn more about the specifics of what you’ve done as you might make a good guest for the show. Please email (first.last@gmail.com) or DM me on IG.
I'm about 35 yrs old myself as a Trucker currently. I've been looking to transition, but have my doubts. It seems a bit daunting when i start looking at the money needed to kick the whole thing off
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@@VchaosTheoryVmake the jump! I was in the same boat and I have no regrets. Truck driving wasn’t fulfilling for me but just a means to an end. 3 years into flying and I’m not making as much as I was trucking quite yet.. but I love my job. I should be making more than I was trucking within the next year.
@timesero good work! How many hours do you have now and what are you flying?
Great video. I am 57 years old and have been trying to figure out an aviation career 2.0 for the last 4 years before I run out of time. With 750 hours, Commercial - ME and Instrument rated, I am still trying to find a way transition to being marketable as a professional pilot while still paying the bills. Thanks for these type of videos.
You bet!
TRENT!! OMG 🤯 as I've written sooo many times previously.. this is THE BEST STYLE OF VIDEO! Being in the same age bracket, similar past life career experiences, and similar or same end goals!! Love hearing about individuals our age doing excellent, going after and obtaining the career opportunities that exist! Truthfully Trent... Nothing better than this! Have a great weekend 💪🏻🇺🇸🛩️ and never stop! Ty 🏆🥇
Glad you liked it!!
This video gave me some much needed inspiration. New to flying, but as I’ve mentioned in other video comments I’m up to 5 days per week now. Sold my company back in January of this year and have been struggling to figure out what to put my heart into next. I feel more and more like my next chapter will be in aviation. Contract flying seems like a very interesting segment in aviation where your future is really in your hands! Thanks for great content.
Congrats on the exit! Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!
Another great video! I’m with him 100 percent on being perfectly fine being SIC. I also don’t need the ego stroke of sitting left seat. I just really, really want this career 2.0.
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Trent, really appreciated the video. You ask great questions. I am a 1450 hour pilot who has applied at over 45 companies, gotten resume coaching/re-writing, I constantly hang out at a very busy FBO in Denver, I’m on all the Facebook pilot groups, I’m a former entrepreneur (coffee shop) and am a real go-getter. I have had the complete opposite experience as this guy. I’m really happy for him, but according to my experience and every other guy I know in my position, this is nearly as rare as winning the lottery. I have thought about selling everything I own to get a Phenom type rating, but really trying to avoid that. Thanks though for the video!
Damn….that’s rough. I’m sorry to hear it’s not been easier for you so far. I’m rooting for your success :)
Don't panic and go randomly pay for a type. There are a ton of 135 operators out there. That's what you need to target. Just getting a type is pointless if you can't meet the insurance mins, and you won't be anywhere close without building jet time. 135 ops can suck and they generally don't pay well, but it's the easiest way to get the experience you need in the logbook. Value one that will fly a lot over just pay. Think long term vs. what you can make today.
Agree!
Trent that was a great interview with David. Very down to earth guy and a wealth of information in this conversation. Two thumbs up.
Thank you!
Trent you are rocking in the pilot seat with this one. I hope more pilots at that age come forward to elaborate their story; “Great Job!”
Thanks! And I’m always looking for more stories to share.
Add this guy to the early retired, can't wait to get back working as a pilot!
Amazing job on this Trent. Thanks pal
You’re welcome, Kyle! Thank you for continuing to support the channel with views and leaving comments. :-)
Amazing work Trent. Im working on my instrument and working on my commercial written. I dont really want to be an instructor. I also have a wife and kids that i dont get to see often because my school is in Florida and my family is in Nevada. So seeing these videos really gives me hope that i can make it happen without having to sacrifice any more time away from my family.
Glad to help! Thanks for watching and helping to support my channel :)
Why can't you go to school in Nevada. I live in Las Vegas.
@@MarcTavX I have a student loan at a part 141 school. I can't transfer the loan either.
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Trent, I want to know more about operating a business while flying so PLEASE make a video about wearing MULTIPLE hats while making a career out of aviation! Love and appreciate all of your videos!
Thx!
Thanks, I'm about to get my CPL and I want to get into flying corporate as I still have many years before I turn 23 and I don't want to be a CFI for the next however many years, also seems like it would be really fun before the airlines to build hours and get a ton of experience for a some time!
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Again with the knowledge bombs. You have a gift for condensing info into digestable chunks, thanks Trent!
Kind of you to say! I’m really happy that you’re enjoying my videos so much. :-)
Love this guy, he's got a great attitude, entrepreneurial and does it for fun. Perhaps my favorite career interview so far on this channel. Very encouraging to see what is actually possible at 800 hrs.
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I’m looking into this 2.0 career, and the original commenter really hits this point - these are genuinely great guys, there’s stereotypes that pilots are cocky, I bet that’s the exception, considering the sincerity and humble confidence of these guys are both compelling personality traits but somehow makes this entire undertaking of mine less intimidating.
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This is a great channel. I’m 45, 900 hours, commercial ASEL with instrument rating. Gonna knock out the multi next and then want to get typed on something so I can start career 2.0 as a contract pilot on the side until I can justify walking away from career 1.0 (attorney) for good. This video was amazing. Willing to “invest in myself” and get typed on my own dime but would love to chat with you both and work on the networking, if you ever have time. Thanks for putting these videos out. I got my PPL in 2005 but took a lot of years off for kids, career, etc. Love seeing guys switch gears later in life. Very motivating!
Thank you so much for watching and sharing a bit about your story. I wish you all the best going forward!
Not trying to rain on your parade, but the type is useless without the jet time and time in type. No one can or will hire you because of insurance. In this market, don't pay for a type unless you've already got contacts lined up. Take a job with a 135 or good 91 operation, let them pay for the type, build jet time, and go from there.
This guy's in was a 135 operation as an SIC. That's how to get started.
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Wow. This was amazing to hear. Presume nothing really gave solid insights. This helped peel back the anxiety and fear to accomplish 1500 hours.
Discovery flight this week!
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Very cool! I am getting my PPL soon. Thinking about retiring and had exactly same thoughts but wasn’t sure about age. You guys just motivated me :)
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These types of videos keep the inspiration fueled! Thanks for the insightful content!
You got it!
You made me love being a pilot
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After the interview: That was awesome! Thank you, brother. Huge encouragement to obtain my private pilot license.
Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!
Nice 👍 one there Trent and I must say your interviews are constructive and intellectually done, am 40years old and an electrical engineer no Nigeria working towards becoming a pilot soon , but we don’t have opinions like those of you in America to flexing flight ✈️ training institutions, your channel has being a strong motivation Trent thanks 🙏
You’re welcome!
Excellent interview! Just reading through a few of the comments and it seems there are more of “us” older guys looking for a great career 2.0 then you might think. This is exactly the kind of gig I’m pursuing. Like you guys, I’ve owned and sold 2 businesses. After selling the first back in 1988 took my money and put myself through flight school. Was a full time CFI, then did 135 cargo, left the industry after 09/11. Build a portfolio of payment and payroll clients. Left that industry 09/2020 after 18+ years due to Covid closing so many businesses. Now with my newly acquired CFII as of 09/20/2023, I’m looking to build a aircraft acquisition, sales & management company while also doing part time piloting and flight training. I have the hours for my ATP but might just invest in the Citation type rating first. As for how old can we go.. my CFII, mentor and good friend is 85+. He and I were out doing short, soft field work in a Beech Sundower yesterday! We fly out of KALB if you’re ever in the area.
Hey Ron! Thanks for watching and sharing some of your story. Please screenshot you comment and send it to me in a DM. I’d like to talk to you more about it.
Love the interview series! This may be my favorite yet, such a good mentality to have to do it for the joy
Absolutely!
Trent, another great interview with excellent information. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing video ! content for us low hours pilots building for ATP requirement. I have sent my Resumer to multiple 135 and 91 operations no lucky phone call yet .
Reaching 1000hrs by the end of years by instructing in a part 141 school in treasure coast Florida area. I’m ready to send my low hours Resumer to any open corporate pilot company who is in the hiring process SIC pilots. Any network recommendation are welcome.
Great video ! So much value ! Great motivation! Good luck on your adventure Trent! Thx u David for sharing a better positive light on the corporate world of aviation!
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I like the T-shirt. "Flowster" nice. I'm a t-shirt guy too. Great video on other parts of the Aviation industry. This aviation industry is bigger than I thought. Very educational and informative. Keep up the excellent work you are doing in the community. We all appreciated it.
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So many gems in this video, thank you Trent.
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Another excellent video!
I am very similar to both of you.
Owned several businesses and sold them. Retirement is not on my to do list.
I’m at 500+ hours collecting ratings.
While Looking for contract work.
Thx!
Sounds like you’re in a good spot! Thanks for watching and all the best on the flight plan(s) ahead of you!
I am 19, I have my student pilot certificate, and I am working towards my private pilot certificate. I just have to save some more money first because I only make 14 dollars an hour.
I will be doing my training in a Bellanca Citabria. I think it is awesome to get to do my training in a tail wheel plane like most pilots did in the early days of aviation, something I don't think very many people do these days.
Best of luck!
Awesome job tent! Thanks for the effort!
You bet! Thx for watching!
Loved the video. I feel so young working to get in the industry at 36 😂
You are!
This is great info. I’m 40 and thought I was too late lol.
Definitely not!
Excellent interview. I’m in such a similar boat with fixed and rotary certs. It’s so cool to hear that you’re flying heli tours while still juggling the 135 life. I definitely want to keep building my rotary hours but am looking forward to the fixed wing income and travel.
Thank you both for sharing your time to do this!
You bet! Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment :-)
@@trent_dyrsmid Subscribed as well 😊 Your content is excellent and I appreciate the great amount of effort it takes.
Thank you!
Flying both rotor and jets is amazingly fun, you just have to remember which control makes it go up and down LOL
@@dhilbish Keeps life interesting lol
Again great video! Love these interviews! As a small business owner this one really was fun/encouraging to hear for a future second career! Day rating! Some control of time! Investing - in yourself getting type ratings! Thank you great channel!
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Wow, that was so informative. Thank you for the insight on being a get your readings nerd. This is something I need to do and I will incorporate this into my lifestyle. Thank you so very much.
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This is a great interview! I’m 37 4th career change currently going through part 141 school as a student pilot 🏫..and corporate route is where I want to go. And I want to structure myself the same way he does and operate like a business . I hope you have him on more often. I’m using my Veteran benefits for schooling not the GIBill part but the vocational rehabilitation part it’s for disabled veterans..I’d be willing to talk about it with you so other vets can get these benefits. If possible I’d love to get this guys information and use him as a mentor.
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would you recommend using gi bill or vocational rehab for 141 school
I’m not familiar with how any of that works, so I do not have an opinion.
@@ecaam Voc rehab for sure you get way more hrs and many other perks like new A30 head set laptop iPad back pack printer 🖨️ and anything else you need for supplies.!
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Wow this is awesome, I never framed it as career 2.0 but at 53 that's definately where I'm at, love the channel!
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Best video on the internet.
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Great video with lots of great info. I'm interested in the double dipping off camera chat just fyi. Thanks for the quality content
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More of these guys Trent!!!
I sent messages to several more pilots just today.
Love seeing these vids Trent, been watching your content since the Online Income Lab days and been considering a second career in aviation. These vids give me hope.
Whoa! That’s a looong time watching my content. Thanks!!
Another Awesome video Trent, lots of useful information!
Glad it was helpful!
Hey Trent, fantastic interview! Great information!
Thanks Bryan!
You guys really should explain the acronyms as you go through them. Tough to follow. Im still following but only with a google search every 30 seconds.
Good point! I’ll have my guests explain more in the future.
Step 1 to becoming a pilot, learn the acronymns LOL. It takes time to pick them up but like any profession, aviation is filled with them.@@trent_dyrsmid
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I know it’s a dumb question but. Can u wear glasses while flying and what’s the passing on the eye test?
I wear glasses. So yes you can :-)
Awesome video and great content as this is what Im looking for . Im 58 , haven't flown in years but going the corporate route and then contracting on the side . At 1000TT+ CPL / IR/ME rated I can't wait to experience what's out there . Thx Trent and David
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@@trent_dyrsmid Thx , best of luck to you too, and thx for posting these valuable videos
You bet!
Recovering Part 121 regional Pilot here lol! Survived 3 years at the regionals before I decided that life wasn’t for me. Lucky enough to rack up 1300 hrs of jet time before getting a full-time position with my Guard unit. Would absolutely love to pick up a side gig just like this!
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Great, video would love to see more video like this. We were just talking more about this today.
More to come!
Would of loved to hear the off camera convo too
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Lots of valuable knowledge. 20 thumbs up❤
Glad you think so!
Amazing content, thanks Trent!
My pleasure!
I'm really curious, the G700 is brand new so there won't be many of them flying around. Would you have a rough idea on the daily pay rate of SIC/PIC contract rates? For reference G4/G5 daily pay rates are around $2K.
Sry I don’t. ChatGPT says $1500-$2500. Seems low to me.
I currently have my instrument rating and am working toward my commercial license. Alot of foreigners come to America to get hired by an american airline because it pays so well, meanwhile alot of Airlines in europe hire at 250-300 hours. Is it practical to convert FAA ratings into EASA ratings to get hired by a european airline? this would work around becoming a CFI and having to build to 1,500 hours. Then after flying for a european airline up to 1,500 hours you could apply for an American Airline. Any insight into this? or any ways to work around becoming a CFI?
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@@trent_dyrsmidHey Trent, I’ve talked about this with my DPE before. He has Dual Citizenship (USA and Italy) while I (Portugal and USA). This is definitely an option. However, finding a job is much harder. Yes, 250 is the legal requirement, however many airlines require it to be hire. If you want to build your hours that way, it is totally do able but you need to know where to look
This is an interesting question and I’m curious how someone would go about doing this
@@vinnyperry6200as an American I'm also interested in the topic as it's seems to be a viable alternative to obtaining the necessary hours and gaining practical turbine experience. Ty 🏆🥇
I hear in a lot of cases you need to "know someone" to get hired at the minimum hour requirment. You've confirmed that for me. Thanks for the insight!@@vinnyperry6200
Excellent vid Trent!!
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Thanks for the video guys!
Our pleasure!
Trent PLEASE do a video of your motion home flight sim 😊
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Thanks for inspiring new aspiring pilots!!
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Great job with these videos!
Glad you like them!
Great information. Thank you!
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I really enjoyed this video guys, especially David
Thank you so much for watching!!
Nice video Trent!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks!
Thank you!!!
Very interesting and useful interview. Thanks a lot 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent advice and thank you 😊🌞👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🙏
You are so welcome
So what’s the best type rating to get first? Citation? Phenom? I’m looking at going this route but want to start with the one that will get me the most opportunities
That depends on many things and I’m definitely not the expert on that.
Good work Brother!!!
Thanks!!
How do i get started contracting. I have 7000tt, ATP,CFII,MEI 3000 TURBINE, 400 INST. NO TYPES. Great video..
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Generally speaking you should never, ever pay for even a portion of training or type ratings. Those days thankfully are long gone. That being said, as long as you require market rates for your services, more power to you. Just realize you are competing with people that don't view it as a "gig" and are literally trying to feed their families contracting. I did it during covid on larger cabin stuff. It's fun and highly profitable but a total grind.
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Paying for training is always an intersting disucssion. Chefs often make bad restaurant owners becuase they don't think like business people. A CEO thinks if I could spend $6500 for a new type rating and make more than $25,000 in the next 4 months would I? The answer is HELL YES! Plus I have that rating for the rest of my life and just have to keep it current. Recurrent training costs money and also is part of the contractor business. It is all factored into the cost of doing business. I don't hesitate to invest in myself if I think the ROI is there.
Well said.
@@dhilbish Absolutely correct if you are strictly going into the contract market. Being a W2 employee of an operator that wants you to share or pay for ANY training on their equipment is a completely different animal.
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I am definitely interested in that conversation at the end :(
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Great video, Trent! Im interested in knowing what resources David uses for finding contract jobs or for finding out what demand there is locally to determine which type ratings I should focus on to become more marketable. Thanks!
He applied, got the call, and then decided to get typed on all the planes for the 135 he flies for.
This is a Dope video! Love it! Thank you for sharing guys❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
all this info is great! What kind of suggestions would you be able to provide for someone that's almost 40 and is looking to start a pilot school? I do not own a company that I can sell so a loan would be my first option. I was looking at Propel but there's not much out there about it. I'm wondering about the length of time that it takes for you to start actually working. Is working as an actual private pilot a thing after you get your certification and are working on a commercial?
i really enjoy watching the videos. Thank you for posting it.
You cannot earn a dime without being a CFI-S or having a commercial pilot license. As for flight school advice, I’ve covered that in a number of my past (most popular videos)
Great info.... thank you
My pleasure!
next step?? for a Canadian Licensed and -FAA Commercially licensed SMEL Ms760 Jet typed- 61yr old Pilot with 1460TT wants to become a Contract Pilot full time, ? and best and marketable Type rating ?
I’m not sure of the answer to that one. Maybe try Google?
great Video, good info!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video full of great info
Glad you liked it!
This is awesome.
Thx!
Trent, I have a question for you. I’m 47, own and run a business, and own rentals too.
David said through his corp he invests in himself. Do you know of a way to propose to my CPA how I can have my current company pay for training before I sell the company. Obviously it would reduce the income & tax liability, which in turn would reduce the value of the company, but I’m comfortable that I know I’d be able to explain that to whoever would be purchasing it.
Thanks again for these videos.
Unless you can think up a legitimate use-case for why you need to fly for your company, it’d be a tough sell. Do you need to visit customers that are too far to drive to? That might do it.
Thanks Trent.
I think there may be a tax break if I sold my current co at a profit and used that money to start a new comp to fly.
I’m open to ideas. Unfortunately, I’ve found so many CPAs not being willing to be creative.
@@alr5373”Not being creative” keeps you out of trouble with the IRS. The rules are the rules!!
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Is there any insight on how to best network for the contracting? It helps when you dont have to pay for ratings and but i see the reasoning behind it. I did the same thing for CDL, endorsements that paid more for my work/ responsibility. BUT not at that kind of expense though.😊
Hang out at the airport. Get a job on the line at the FBO. Reach out to people on social media. Tell everyone what you’re looking for. Networking is WORK and that is why most suck at doing it.
So that guy acquired only Commercial Pilot License which requires 170h (not Airline Pilot License yet which takes 15,000h), right?
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Any websites you might recommend to find contract flights?
I’m sorry, not being a contract Pilot myself I don’t know of any off the top of my head. I would guess that you could find quite a few on Google though.
Another video I watched suggested Facebook.
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Here's a video I'd like to see. Cheapest while simultaneously most productive way to 500 hours without instructing. What path if you consider it to be an investment in yourself? Also, how might you approach a long-time plane owner to go halves, and what is the legal process?
Noted!
Becoming an instructor is the best way to master a craft. I was a scared scuba diver that took 3 tries to get certified. I stopped adding ratings as a PADI IDC staff instrcutor (Level 5 of 7) I feel I am a competent / proficient diver now. I learned so much about flying doing instuction. I only did about 200 hours of instrucition but it added well to my log book and really added to my experience!
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Hey so im 22 with my private that i got in highschool. Im at 100 hours and thinking if a route to take here. It seems to me that going this route may even be better than shooting for my ATP and then going comercial, im finding that it doesnt seem necessary to become a CFI and just working in something like this instead. Is this train of thought flawed?
Kinda…..because you need the right kinds of hours in your log book first….or you have to be one lucky guy.
I’m 31 years old I want to switch careers and become an airline pilot and eventually land a job at a major airline. I don’t have a degree, I have a high school diploma with very poor GPA. Any advice? Should I still pursue this?
Answered on your other comment.
Shoot I just wanted to get a private pilots license to have freedom, now I want to do this. Flying commercial flights never really interested, but private contracting with that freedom to make your schedule is really appealing.
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Great interview! I'm about to start my PPL in the UK, does anyone know what I need to do on top to be able to fly small business jets? Can I do this with a fATPL? I have a business so I'm not too concerned about salary and would prefer contracting if possible.
I don’t know, sorry.
Amazing Content
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Awesome, love it :D
Thanks! 😄
Hey, I’m 18 years old wanting to make this a career. I have no clue the best way to start and I don’t really have the money to afford however I’m aware that if I want it I’ll figure out a way to fund it. Is this only done by networking with affluent individuals? Do I or should I do a degree first? Will I still be able
To maintain a healthy work and family balance?
All good questions to which there is no “one right answer”. All I can tell you is the more people you talk to in aviation, the better your chances will be.
He talked about flying to transport organs. Was that in jets or helicopters?
I’m flying the organs in jets
@dhilbish as someone who has a kidney transplant and is working on my ppl, that's my goal
@@dhilbishThat sounds very similar to an outfit in the NC area that my CFI worked for and did the same thing up and down the East Coast. Mind sharing the home base to see if it's the same one?
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is there a mandatory retirement age for corporate pilots? I heard you mention guys in their 70s still flying corporate.😮
There is not.
I’m 51 and just got my instrument rating last week. About to start on my commercial. Currently only a little over 300 hours, but I’m looking at doing at least 25 hours a month. I have a really good paying job now, but I’m ready to do something I really enjoy for the rest of my working years. Looking forward to additional ratings and the opportunities that become available.
Hey Mitch….Thank you so much for watching!! I’m stoked for you! Please give me updates in the comments as you progress :)
Hi Trent I just have a question about sport pilot license. I have a pacemaker and I’m a controlled diabetic that after being at a A1C of 6 constantly so maybe I can say I’m not diabetic anymore. Do you think that I could qualify for a sport pilot license seeing that I’m retired in Florida and need to keep busy all the time. My dream was always to fly planes and back when I was in my late 20s early 30s I had about 10 hours before I had to take care of family before me. I also had a small company that I sold and no pile of money but plenty to fly with. Thanks and keep up your videos as they are very informative and full of knowledge.
That’s really a question for someone more qualified than me. I’d suggest reaching out to a AME.
If you fly light sport, ultralight or gliders you need no medical
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What if your business blew up years ago and you’ve been living paycheck to paycheck. How do you make a career switch like this without the means of self funding?
If you want it bad enough, you find a way to make it work.
What is a fractional ceo?
A CEO that works part time on a contract.
Don’t forget.. you can apply up to 100 hours of qualifying SIM time to your ATP!
Good to know!!
damn i have a job/career as a cdl truck driver at 20 years old and looking to be a corporate or airline pilot…sadly this may be a dream to never come true because of my disease. ah such a beautiful tragedy
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What city does he live in/fly out of? Or does he commute a lot?
If I recall correctly, he lives somewhere in Florida, and does not commute. There is a lot of corporate jet flying in Florida.
@@trent_dyrsmid I figured Florida or California. I’m from Indiana starting to get into contract flying. I have 725 hours and I’m flying a citation 550 now, but my area just isn’t as busy so it’s tough to stay busy.
Location definitely matters.
I live in Chicago and FL and do commute to fly the medevac work.
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I would do it… I only have 750 hrs though 😂
Much of it is helicopter and multi engine.
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Solid content. Thank you brother!
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