Has a beginner who has spent about 2 hours practice. I have learned a lot. Simply by doing. I think so far it's all about feel. I've already began to roll cast and use waters surface tension to my advantage. I've figured out that false casting doesn't help me much and that I can easily cast with one back swing at times. I've learned that my line should be way more out than I intitally thought. I've began to understand that I'm moving to fast at times. I've began to understand how using my off hand to help with keeping line tension really improves the cast. I knew what none of this was at the time. I was just learning organically and naturally. Now I'm watching this video amd reading the little red fly fishing book to understand more. Anyone looking to really learn. Take his 5 tips and then just go out and play around for an hour or two. It's so interesting to just see how easy and life like a fly moves through the air. Seeing it float with little movement is enough to make me go, "let's see what happens if.."
the person who taught me how to cast told me to pretend I'm using a Chuckit and throwing the ball for my dog, at that point it made more sense to me and casting got easier.
Wow, that made a point to me. Those things are NOT instantly intuitive to throw the ball. I've hit the house, the pool, the ground and almost her in the beginning. You don't know until you know!
I loved this video, but there are a few more simple things I always add when teaching casting. 1. The fly line always follows the tip of the rod. Yes, this has to do with direction. if you your tip stops high in the cast the line will travel high, conversely, a dropped rod tip, especially on the back cast, caused the line to often drop into the water behind you. 2. One of the most effective cast I teach in my beginning casting class is The Belgium cast. I teach this at the end of the class. Why? because the student will not always have me with them and it is a good 'go to cast' to have in your arsenal. I use this cast on very windy days or when tossing a dual fly setup. It helps to keep the flies from tangling on the back cast. This is an Oval loop cast. 3. For me this last point is very important to depart on new casters and one of the first things I instill, other than my mantra which I say over and over. Casting Arc: Short line, short (narrow)casting arch....long line, wider casting arc. Why is this so important? Because if you have too much line out of the tip of the rod and you use a short casting arc, which is a faster casting stroke, you will inevitably get tangles. (it is one of the main reasons for Tailing Loops.) This is part of the timing you spoke about. And lastly, before I step off the my soap box...my Mantra I pass on to all students. ALWAYS LOOK BEHIND YOU BEFORE YOU START CASTING. Survey your surroundings and understand what lays behind.
Thanks for this. Was out my 2nd day flyfishing today and I need a lot of work on my casts. This video is extremely helpful in seeing why, especially the part with Katie I managed to catch two tiny brown trouts though. Addicted already
Some really good pointers. Coming from somebody who’s pretty well seasoned in flyfishing. Just watched it for the fun of it. But really good pointers. The thing that taught me about when to move the rod forward at the tail end of my back cast was feeling the line tug the rod tip backwards behind me. That way I didn’t have to watch the line, forward and backwards, only forward. But otherwise, really good points.
That's a wonderful point, and thanks for watching!! When I started, I had to watch both the front and back casts so I knew what it felt like when it was time to move to the next casting stroke, and I've found that helps a lot of other beginners, too. But being able to feel the tug of the line, like you mentioned, is EXACTLY what we're going for! Thanks again for sharing! -- Spencer
Haven’t fly fished since high school 15 years ago and even then I didn’t get a ton of experience. I’m about to get back into it and need this refresher
I learned from Joe Humphries years ago. Elbow close to body and use a 10 to 2 motion like hammering a nail in the wall with a slight snap of the thumb to accelerate forward.
Great stuff here! I find that most casting is done by right-handers with their casting hands downstream. As a south-paw, I find much of the river access forces me to do some backhand casts. I would appreciate a video on how to cast when the rod is in the upstream hand.
sweet virgin margaritas lol i certified you.. excellent fly casting review for me and certainly for anyone the beginner to pro..great entertainment fly flinging fundamentals ! onward to roll cast!
So I am curious are you bending your elbow or is it locked with all motion coming from your shoulder and wrist? The way I learned to cast ( from a world renowned caster) taught me to keep my arm at 90 degrees and use my shoulder and wrist. Just curious if this is the same and if not is it as effective
Awesome video, thank you! I'm confused about what you do right before you cast. How much line do you pull out the end of the rod before picking it up to cast?
For a beginner, if practicing in your yard? What is a good time schedule to start with and should you practice more than once a day? Last question related to casting practice. Is it ok to use a fly that has the point of the hook that has been cut off? So far this Masterclass series is incredible. Thank you all and God bless.
I’ve been practicing with the hook cut off. Honestly, it seems to work well without any fly at all as well. Tying on some yarn is cheaper, as you’ll inevitably snap a bunch of flies off. I’m just starting, so take that with a grain of salt.
@@baileymoto Thank you for your reply. Since my post I’ve watched a few TH-cam videos about yarn strike indicators. I’ve actually bought Waspi Egg Yarn, and getting ready to make a few up. I figure they will work for casting practice and fishing as well.
Incredibly helpful for a complete noob like myself. Actually going to pick up a fly kit from you guys soon! Just curious, I heard you mention Utah. Was this filmed there?
so I've been practicing the fly casting at the field.. and my arm and shoulder are screaming after 30min... is that normal or is my form is wrong while doing the stroke?
I haven't gotten all the way through but have to ask question before I forget (old age is like that)...excess line (probably not really excess, line that isn't out or you're bring in the fish without using reel...hold it loosely in your reeling hand? Or dop it? I've seen some of both...
Depends on how intense the fight is/size of fish and how much line we are dealing with. Most of the time I will just drop it (but the key is making sure you still have tension on the line by keeping it tucked under that finger against the grip).
@@venturesflyco My index finger has issues so I'm going to train myself doing two fingers...plus I'm so used to a spinning rod, it takes major conscious effort to keep a finger on the line. I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for producing them.
Quick question. I always struggle with getting the line off the reel and set up to make the first cast. I have it through the guides but how to I get enough off the reel to cast with ease? It seems like casting videos start after the line is out and ready to go. Do you have any tips on the easiest way to do this?
It can help to have 10-15ft of line through the guides before you start casting, so when you string up your rod, make sure you pull that much off the reel. Then, as you need more line to make longer casts, you pull it off the reel and let the momentum of your fly cast pull it from your hands.
One question does it matter on what rod to get????? Was going to grab the martin flyrod combo in a 5/6 wt will that be good ....??? Just don't want to drop a ton of money and not like or want to use it lol..... I'm a bass/saltwater guy now I use bait casters and spinning gear just want to try fly.... Plus there is a spot here in Delaware I like but it's fly rod only
You want to get a decent rod for your first fly rod. It'll make learning to cast a lot easier, and you'll have a rod that can do a lot of different things. Our Fly Flinger rod will do trout, plus some bass fishing. It's a solid option if you're serious about trying fly fishing. A good beginner rod will make the experience better, so you can get a better feel for whether you like it or not. venturesflyco.com/collections/rods/products/the-fly-flinger-rod
Great point. We say keep the fly line tucked under your finger to emphasize the point that you don’t want slack line while casting. As you get the casting motion down, you’ll hold the line in your opposite hand and let a bit of line out with each false cast. But as soon as that line lands on the water, you’ll want to put the line back under your finger in case a fish decides to bite. Long story short, slack line is bad for casting and during the drift. Make more sense?
I got a fly rod since the other one that I got needed to be cleaned and apparently it was missing a part so it can’t be used, and I have never gone fly fishing. I’ve watched a ton of videos about fly fishing before I even use the one I got so I know what to do and what not to do. I have gone out with a guide to catch walleye and catfish, where I’m at walleye feel exactly like a stick, and catfish will go after crank baits because I caught one on it and they fight like every video about walleye said how they would fight. The guide stated that I focused on fishing more than everyone else he had went out with, to me when I go out to fish that’s all I think about because fish always bite when you ain’t focusing on fishing and you ain’t catching anything, and it takes the whole time just for the person he’s taking out to fish just to catch 2 walleye, I had 2 of them in like 3 hours. Fishing is just a patience game your gonna get fish to bite but you don’t know when that is.
I'd make reference to the safety aspect of sunglasses and a hat/baseball cap.. No mention of a wading staff or lifejacket for faster deeper more dangerous rivers. Maybe a priest to dispatch taken fish. And some reading glasses / close up foldaway glasses for the older guys poor knot tying eyesight.
I don’t think you’re supposed to hold your fly line in your rod hand as you cast. I could be wrong but I don’t think I am. More friction = less distance has always been my teaching.
Yup good call. We needed to clarify that a bit more in the video. The fundamental should be you need to have a point of contact with the fly line while casting (i.e. having it tucked up under your finger, holding it in your non casting hand) during the casting stroke. This gives the line tension, allowing the rod to load. If you just let the slack line dangle, it would just flop around and you wouldn’t be able to cast. When you need more line out, you can pull it out and let it slide through your finger/hand gradually.
great advice,, also false casting will causes thin tippet to dry fly or even nymph tandem rigs to tangle into a mess especially 6x and 7x dries,, it's something all will have to experience but experience is knowledge too lol
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😂😂😂 Appreciate it. 👍🏽
Has a beginner who has spent about 2 hours practice. I have learned a lot. Simply by doing. I think so far it's all about feel. I've already began to roll cast and use waters surface tension to my advantage. I've figured out that false casting doesn't help me much and that I can easily cast with one back swing at times. I've learned that my line should be way more out than I intitally thought. I've began to understand that I'm moving to fast at times. I've began to understand how using my off hand to help with keeping line tension really improves the cast.
I knew what none of this was at the time. I was just learning organically and naturally. Now I'm watching this video amd reading the little red fly fishing book to understand more.
Anyone looking to really learn. Take his 5 tips and then just go out and play around for an hour or two. It's so interesting to just see how easy and life like a fly moves through the air. Seeing it float with little movement is enough to make me go, "let's see what happens if.."
Awesome! I love that you brought Alex’s wife in to demonstrate how an actual beginner level looks.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback. Happy you found it helpful. 😎🤙🏽
the person who taught me how to cast told me to pretend I'm using a Chuckit and throwing the ball for my dog, at that point it made more sense to me and casting got easier.
For sure! Great way to think about it.
Wow, that made a point to me. Those things are NOT instantly intuitive to throw the ball. I've hit the house, the pool, the ground and almost her in the beginning. You don't know until you know!
I’ve also heard the analogy of pretending you are flicking paint off a brush and that’s what got me on the water
I loved this video, but there are a few more simple things I always add when teaching casting. 1. The fly line always follows the tip of the rod. Yes, this has to do with direction. if you your tip stops high in the cast the line will travel high, conversely, a dropped rod tip, especially on the back cast, caused the line to often drop into the water behind you. 2. One of the most effective cast I teach in my beginning casting class is The Belgium cast. I teach this at the end of the class. Why? because the student will not always have me with them and it is a good 'go to cast' to have in your arsenal. I use this cast on very windy days or when tossing a dual fly setup. It helps to keep the flies from tangling on the back cast. This is an Oval loop cast. 3. For me this last point is very important to depart on new casters and one of the first things I instill, other than my mantra which I say over and over. Casting Arc: Short line, short (narrow)casting arch....long line, wider casting arc. Why is this so important? Because if you have too much line out of the tip of the rod and you use a short casting arc, which is a faster casting stroke, you will inevitably get tangles. (it is one of the main reasons for Tailing Loops.) This is part of the timing you spoke about. And lastly, before I step off the my soap box...my Mantra I pass on to all students. ALWAYS LOOK BEHIND YOU BEFORE YOU START CASTING. Survey your surroundings and understand what lays behind.
All great tips! Thanks for the extra insights. Appreciate you taking the time to write all that out. 😎🤙🏽
Great video. I watched it with my daughter who is ready to start fly fishing now!
So awesome! Excited for ya’ll to make some memories together out there on the water. 😎👍🏽
I caught a monster brown trout on the Ogden this weekend! Thanks for all the tips and advice on nymphing etc
Awesome!
A really big thank you for your videos, they help a lot. Cheers from Brazil!
It was very helpful showing how you work with a student to improve their casting skills. Thank you very much.
you bet!
Useful info guys. Lots to learn. Thanks.
Appreciate it Ken!
First time watching. I enjoyed the casting lesson. Well done.
Very good information. Thanks VFC
Appreciate the feedback. Thanks for following along! 😎👍🏽
Thanks for this. Was out my 2nd day flyfishing today and I need a lot of work on my casts. This video is extremely helpful in seeing why, especially the part with Katie
I managed to catch two tiny brown trouts though. Addicted already
Some really good pointers. Coming from somebody who’s pretty well seasoned in flyfishing. Just watched it for the fun of it. But really good pointers. The thing that taught me about when to move the rod forward at the tail end of my back cast was feeling the line tug the rod tip backwards behind me. That way I didn’t have to watch the line, forward and backwards, only forward. But otherwise, really good points.
That's a wonderful point, and thanks for watching!! When I started, I had to watch both the front and back casts so I knew what it felt like when it was time to move to the next casting stroke, and I've found that helps a lot of other beginners, too. But being able to feel the tug of the line, like you mentioned, is EXACTLY what we're going for! Thanks again for sharing! -- Spencer
Haven’t fly fished since high school 15 years ago and even then I didn’t get a ton of experience. I’m about to get back into it and need this refresher
So very well done ! Been at this Trout Bum thing form 1974
EXCELLENT INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK!!
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful.
I learned from Joe Humphries years ago. Elbow close to body and use a 10 to 2 motion like hammering a nail in the wall with a slight snap of the thumb to accelerate forward.
Thanks I'm learning
Should you have extra line out or only rely on the drag of the reel to pull line out.
thank you I am really enjoying these videos
Stoked to hear it! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Such great information guys! I didn't know about keeping a straight rod tip. Better casts to come.
😎🤙🏽 Glad you enjoyed it and found a good take-away. Let us know how it goes.
Great stuff here! I find that most casting is done by right-handers with their casting hands downstream. As a south-paw, I find much of the river access forces me to do some backhand casts. I would appreciate a video on how to cast when the rod is in the upstream hand.
Very well made video.
sweet virgin margaritas lol i certified you.. excellent fly casting review for me and certainly for anyone the beginner to pro..great entertainment fly flinging fundamentals ! onward to roll cast!
Great information Thanks
Thanks, this helped.
-Noob
So I am curious are you bending your elbow or is it locked with all motion coming from your shoulder and wrist? The way I learned to cast ( from a world renowned caster) taught me to keep my arm at 90 degrees and use my shoulder and wrist. Just curious if this is the same and if not is it as effective
Awesome video, thank you! I'm confused about what you do right before you cast. How much line do you pull out the end of the rod before picking it up to cast?
Great question. A good starting point is probably a rod length (~10ft). Then you can start to pull out line with your non casting hand as needed.
For a beginner, if practicing in your yard? What is a good time schedule to start with and should you practice more than once a day? Last question related to casting practice. Is it ok to use a fly that has the point of the hook that has been cut off? So far this Masterclass series is incredible. Thank you all and God bless.
I’ve been practicing with the hook cut off. Honestly, it seems to work well without any fly at all as well. Tying on some yarn is cheaper, as you’ll inevitably snap a bunch of flies off. I’m just starting, so take that with a grain of salt.
@@baileymoto Thank you for your reply. Since my post I’ve watched a few TH-cam videos about yarn strike indicators. I’ve actually bought Waspi Egg Yarn, and getting ready to make a few up. I figure they will work for casting practice and fishing as well.
Some good info!
Glad it was helpful!
Incredibly helpful for a complete noob like myself. Actually going to pick up a fly kit from you guys soon! Just curious, I heard you mention Utah. Was this filmed there?
Awesome. Glad you found it helpful. Yes, we filmed the Masterclass all around UT, WY, ID, and OR.
so I've been practicing the fly casting at the field.. and my arm and shoulder are screaming after 30min... is that normal or is my form is wrong while doing the stroke?
It’s hard to say without seeing your cast. If you can, go submit a form on the contact us page on our website and we can get it figured out! 😎🤙🏽
"as few casts as possible" Thats my practice.
Is this Duke Bryan?
I haven't gotten all the way through but have to ask question before I forget (old age is like that)...excess line (probably not really excess, line that isn't out or you're bring in the fish without using reel...hold it loosely in your reeling hand? Or dop it? I've seen some of both...
Depends on how intense the fight is/size of fish and how much line we are dealing with. Most of the time I will just drop it (but the key is making sure you still have tension on the line by keeping it tucked under that finger against the grip).
@@venturesflyco My index finger has issues so I'm going to train myself doing two fingers...plus I'm so used to a spinning rod, it takes major conscious effort to keep a finger on the line. I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for producing them.
😂🤠👌🤙Nice 😊 cheers mate!!!
You were in Wyoming?? What part?!? I live at the base of the big horn mountains!! Lol
Quick question. I always struggle with getting the line off the reel and set up to make the first cast. I have it through the guides but how to I get enough off the reel to cast with ease? It seems like casting videos start after the line is out and ready to go. Do you have any tips on the easiest way to do this?
It can help to have 10-15ft of line through the guides before you start casting, so when you string up your rod, make sure you pull that much off the reel. Then, as you need more line to make longer casts, you pull it off the reel and let the momentum of your fly cast pull it from your hands.
@@venturesflyco thank you so much. So easy and obvious. I appreciate it 🐠
Hey, it's not always obvious, especially when you're new to the sport! We're happy to help, and thanks for asking the question!
One question does it matter on what rod to get????? Was going to grab the martin flyrod combo in a 5/6 wt will that be good ....??? Just don't want to drop a ton of money and not like or want to use it lol..... I'm a bass/saltwater guy now I use bait casters and spinning gear just want to try fly.... Plus there is a spot here in Delaware I like but it's fly rod only
You want to get a decent rod for your first fly rod. It'll make learning to cast a lot easier, and you'll have a rod that can do a lot of different things. Our Fly Flinger rod will do trout, plus some bass fishing. It's a solid option if you're serious about trying fly fishing. A good beginner rod will make the experience better, so you can get a better feel for whether you like it or not. venturesflyco.com/collections/rods/products/the-fly-flinger-rod
I’m not understanding how having my finger on the line with help me cast more line. I don’t understand how to get further on my cast.
Great point. We say keep the fly line tucked under your finger to emphasize the point that you don’t want slack line while casting.
As you get the casting motion down, you’ll hold the line in your opposite hand and let a bit of line out with each false cast.
But as soon as that line lands on the water, you’ll want to put the line back under your finger in case a fish decides to bite.
Long story short, slack line is bad for casting and during the drift.
Make more sense?
I got a fly rod since the other one that I got needed to be cleaned and apparently it was missing a part so it can’t be used, and I have never gone fly fishing. I’ve watched a ton of videos about fly fishing before I even use the one I got so I know what to do and what not to do. I have gone out with a guide to catch walleye and catfish, where I’m at walleye feel exactly like a stick, and catfish will go after crank baits because I caught one on it and they fight like every video about walleye said how they would fight. The guide stated that I focused on fishing more than everyone else he had went out with, to me when I go out to fish that’s all I think about because fish always bite when you ain’t focusing on fishing and you ain’t catching anything, and it takes the whole time just for the person he’s taking out to fish just to catch 2 walleye, I had 2 of them in like 3 hours. Fishing is just a patience game your gonna get fish to bite but you don’t know when that is.
I'm partial to the blind squirrel on acid cast
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😂😂 "Sweet virgin Margaritas" was the epitome of a Utahn
You can take the boy out of Utah, but you can't take the Utah out of the boy...
You Come off as a great teacher. Love that you aren't robotic and read from paper like it seems most do. Very informative
Thank you for the kind feedback! Glad you found it helpful.
4:07 I got hurt 😁🙏
Haha glad you enjoyed it! 😎🤙🏽
Why do you need to hold the line?
To get a good hook set on the fish and so that the line doesn’t shoot out
anybody can claim to be a fly fishing guide. that does not imply being a good fly casting instructor.
You clearly missed Fundamental #6 -- SUNSCREEN. That poor young lady was toasted!
I'd make reference to the safety aspect of sunglasses and a hat/baseball cap.. No mention of a wading staff or lifejacket for faster deeper more dangerous rivers. Maybe a priest to dispatch taken fish. And some reading glasses / close up foldaway glasses for the older guys poor knot tying eyesight.
I don’t think you’re supposed to hold your fly line in your rod hand as you cast. I could be wrong but I don’t think I am. More friction = less distance has always been my teaching.
Yup good call. We needed to clarify that a bit more in the video.
The fundamental should be you need to have a point of contact with the fly line while casting (i.e. having it tucked up under your finger, holding it in your non casting hand) during the casting stroke. This gives the line tension, allowing the rod to load. If you just let the slack line dangle, it would just flop around and you wouldn’t be able to cast.
When you need more line out, you can pull it out and let it slide through your finger/hand gradually.
Well I learned that you pull the line with your left hand for more power
8 billion people? 😁😁😁
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She just needs to do the good and not the bad, the right and not the wrong.
The "don't teach your own wife" tip applies to guns, too. And, probably lots of other stuff.
Didn't know there was a God of tacos
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ya with that physic I'm surprise byu hasn't come calling
great advice,, also false casting will causes thin tippet to dry fly or even nymph tandem rigs to tangle into a mess especially 6x and 7x dries,, it's something all will have to experience but experience is knowledge too lol