@@Catherine-fh7ko in Dan's world dating is entirely controlled by the man and women are the passive recipients of their advances, whose only role is to be won over lol
i really hope the younger people that watch dan don't take his advice to heart. when he gives dating advice he talks about women like we're some sort of other species. this approach to dating like it's some mindgame of careful positioning and chivalrous gestures honestly sounds like pick-up artist type stuff. he was SO adamant that this girl was lying to the chatter about her phone issues, even after she proved them over facetime. "you don't think she orchestrated all that?" brother WHAT are you talking about??? just treat women like humans, treat people with grace, and don't try to 5D chess your way through dating
Yeah, I’ve had sim issues before, and I can imagine bailing on someone because you were too anxious and then regretting it later, so I’m not sure what to believe, but I don’t think his advice was helpful. Mind games aren’t fun after high school. Women aren’t machines that you can push the right buttons and we’ll fall in love with you, and we’re not all constantly seeking attention from every guy we meet. His advice is also very traditional/mainstream which disregards people with different personalities or niche interests.
I don’t buy the phone issues. iMessage works based on WiFi, it doesn’t use sms unless you have no connection. So if she could connect to instagram, iMessage should’ve been working. Also, you get a notification if your message can’t be sent, which could’ve spurred her on to communicate on instagram instead of posting a story. There are lots of people that believe her, which is fine, and maybe the technical details would explain it more, but it still sounds a little far fetched. If nothing else, she’s a poor communicator.
That's the one part that didn't add up for me too. It would make sense if he didn't have an iPhone and she was messaging her friends they imessage but he said it in the start that he does.
Dan is literally so redpilled he is going conspiracy theorist about her orchestrating a fake failed facetime call from his device to hers. I'm not sure that's possible at all for the average person. She put far too much effort into this to be lying, and for what? She clearly wanted to meet up with him again. I feel like Dan just decided she was ghosting early on and never budged.
So you can ask a woman to get on a train and meet you halfway but you can't ask them to bring some cups when you travel to them? I'm not sure I'm understanding his logic
Meet me halfway to show basic commitment but after that babe don't worry I'm the man with the plan, you just enjoy your time. If it's a long term relationship you need to split responsibility but when it's a first date you gotta come out strong and show that you can take the reins for the day. TLDR Don't want to seem desperate but you also don't want to seem incapable/incompetent
@@3dstaco sure but if you are already taking a 3 hour train trip for her, its okay to have her do something for you as well. And this "the man has to do everything" mentality is getting old now.
@@GasparGa Well the question is do you want to guarantee a W or not? Human psychology is human psychology (aka not fair) and unless you are 6ft women have the starting advantage. Once you get past the interview phase you can start making it as fair as you want because you already proven you're a high value ticket. The main problem is this guy was desperate and made his first date way harder than it should of been for himself. Unless you know she's a guaranteed hood classic then never stretch yourself that far unless you're trying to farm exp
My friend, that's not how it works. It's not a job interview and its not a videogame quest. Just be yourself. Unless you're an a*hole, then work on yourself and after you've done that, be yourself.
@@GasparGa Like I was eluding to before, if you don't have some defining characteristics that makes you a steal then you should have the first date leave a slamming impression. Even if you are starting with good odds a home run is still a home run and all you have to do is have some foresight and planning to make her experience a 10/10. If you are a decent lad and you don't want to put in the unfair work then sure just chill out with an 8/10 experience. But in hop in the discord fashion the point is to get a home run. Again nothing wrong with your chill approach but you are more likely to make a friend with higher quality women rather than a girlfriend. Yes I'm talking in a very gamified manner but I'm trying to explain Dan's logic
If your phone has these issues and you know it, you would bring it up for a critical situation where someone is going to take a 1.5 hour train ride to SEE YOU... And not figuring out some way to connect when there is a lack of comms is YOUR responsibility if you have a bad phone!
I had a work day last week where mid day my sim was dislodged, my girlfriend also had this happen a month before. I was on wifi but for some reason my phone wont recieve texts from people on wifi with no sim. It happens pretty often from dropping your phone and theres not like a notification to tell you
I have had that exact same issue before, where texts just don't go through randomly for a few days, then I suddenly get texts from a few days ago. If there's any excuse I'm inclined to believe, it's that technology failed. (She still should've tried another way to communicate if it's happened to her before).
Even if what she is saying is true, they both didn't hear from each other, and yet he still travelled out an hour and a half to go see her and was still optimistic, whereas she assumed the worst and didn't even bother to show up, even though it was close to her. Even if you believe her 100%, it's just a really bad look on her, and I think it's reasonable to have that sour the relationship and not wanting the relationship to start out that way. But also, I'm still just getting caught up on the fact that if her text messages weren't sending then she probably would have gotten a "failed to send" message, or at least they'd have the spinning symbol next to them or something. So either she didn't notice that, or it glitched out and didn't show that, or she's lying. Also, the thing that irks me is just that, as far as I know, she didn't send a screenshot of the messages she sent him on the Friday. I feel like that would have been enough proof for me (even if they could have been faked). But she didn't send them, even after he explicitly asked for those. Instead she sent a video of her sending messages to her friend saying he didn't stand her up? Like how does that prove anything? I will say, though, she probably could message her friends because she was probably messaging them on instagram. He said at one point that he thinks her friends typically message on there. But also, again, she never addressed that when he asked about it. Just bad communication.
I think a text being ultra blunt as dan advised is the wrong play, since he spent an entire day with her being aimable and understanding to her face, if he texts being agressive, that would be a pussy/weak move in my book
I'm 35 minutes in. It's so easy for her to prove, all she needs to do is go to her conversation with him and show her texts being sent chronologically before his. His phone would show his texts before hers, easy as that. Texts populate on time received instead of time sent for this reason, if she could show that then there you go.
I genuinely had the same sim card issue last week. When you drop your phone enough your sim card starts dislodging throughout the day and it doesnt tell you other than the text on the top changing a tiny bit
Who in the year 2024 is still texting on cell service when they have a wifi connection available to upload an instagram story? I get benefit of the doubt but her story just doesn't add up to me
“book of desperation” should’ve added 100 to the bm counter
Need a gay chatter to call in, curious to see how Dan approaches it with how much he likes gender norms in dating lol
Realistically, he'll treat the non-caller as the girl
Need to see how versatile Dan's advice really is 😂
I don't think he would want to for the very reason gay relations are very different.
On that note- do any women ever call in? I’d be curious to see if and how his advice changes
@@Catherine-fh7ko in Dan's world dating is entirely controlled by the man and women are the passive recipients of their advances, whose only role is to be won over lol
i really hope the younger people that watch dan don't take his advice to heart. when he gives dating advice he talks about women like we're some sort of other species. this approach to dating like it's some mindgame of careful positioning and chivalrous gestures honestly sounds like pick-up artist type stuff.
he was SO adamant that this girl was lying to the chatter about her phone issues, even after she proved them over facetime. "you don't think she orchestrated all that?" brother WHAT are you talking about??? just treat women like humans, treat people with grace, and don't try to 5D chess your way through dating
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Yeah, I’ve had sim issues before, and I can imagine bailing on someone because you were too anxious and then regretting it later, so I’m not sure what to believe, but I don’t think his advice was helpful.
Mind games aren’t fun after high school. Women aren’t machines that you can push the right buttons and we’ll fall in love with you, and we’re not all constantly seeking attention from every guy we meet.
His advice is also very traditional/mainstream which disregards people with different personalities or niche interests.
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I think she didn't lie about the cell service but still is a poor communicator and I think thats what he was saying too, which is why he was ending it
If she was real and telling the truth, once she found out she would've gone to where he is, to make up for it
True!
His idea for beach trip pt. 2
But she thought HE was ghosting her because of the phone issues
Justice for Firmguy
I haven't been down in the dungeons for a while now but he has a theme song for the call ins now?? 🤣🤣🤣
chat is scrolling at unprecedented pace
dude says "this cant be like... that entertaining"
BROTHER
My body was seizing from the cringe. This was a TOUGH watch 10/10
31:06 SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS????
I HAVENT GONE ON A FIRST DATE IN 20 YEARS
You and me both brother
I don’t buy the phone issues. iMessage works based on WiFi, it doesn’t use sms unless you have no connection. So if she could connect to instagram, iMessage should’ve been working.
Also, you get a notification if your message can’t be sent, which could’ve spurred her on to communicate on instagram instead of posting a story.
There are lots of people that believe her, which is fine, and maybe the technical details would explain it more, but it still sounds a little far fetched.
If nothing else, she’s a poor communicator.
That's the one part that didn't add up for me too. It would make sense if he didn't have an iPhone and she was messaging her friends they imessage but he said it in the start that he does.
Good morning, dungeoneers. Have a nice ride on the ghost train today.
Beautiful risings everyone
starting off with a discord call? kino
Dan is literally so redpilled he is going conspiracy theorist about her orchestrating a fake failed facetime call from his device to hers. I'm not sure that's possible at all for the average person. She put far too much effort into this to be lying, and for what? She clearly wanted to meet up with him again. I feel like Dan just decided she was ghosting early on and never budged.
Once BMtember is done, are you thinking of doing a compilation of every BM from it?
Or a weekly BM update / compilation could be fun too
DanG, caller, and the dungeon master saving the day as usual
i love the "hop in the discord" bit idk why its so good
So you can ask a woman to get on a train and meet you halfway but you can't ask them to bring some cups when you travel to them? I'm not sure I'm understanding his logic
Meet me halfway to show basic commitment but after that babe don't worry I'm the man with the plan, you just enjoy your time. If it's a long term relationship you need to split responsibility but when it's a first date you gotta come out strong and show that you can take the reins for the day.
TLDR Don't want to seem desperate but you also don't want to seem incapable/incompetent
@@3dstaco sure but if you are already taking a 3 hour train trip for her, its okay to have her do something for you as well. And this "the man has to do everything" mentality is getting old now.
@@GasparGa Well the question is do you want to guarantee a W or not? Human psychology is human psychology (aka not fair) and unless you are 6ft women have the starting advantage.
Once you get past the interview phase you can start making it as fair as you want because you already proven you're a high value ticket.
The main problem is this guy was desperate and made his first date way harder than it should of been for himself. Unless you know she's a guaranteed hood classic then never stretch yourself that far unless you're trying to farm exp
My friend, that's not how it works. It's not a job interview and its not a videogame quest. Just be yourself. Unless you're an a*hole, then work on yourself and after you've done that, be yourself.
@@GasparGa Like I was eluding to before, if you don't have some defining characteristics that makes you a steal then you should have the first date leave a slamming impression. Even if you are starting with good odds a home run is still a home run and all you have to do is have some foresight and planning to make her experience a 10/10.
If you are a decent lad and you don't want to put in the unfair work then sure just chill out with an 8/10 experience. But in hop in the discord fashion the point is to get a home run.
Again nothing wrong with your chill approach but you are more likely to make a friend with higher quality women rather than a girlfriend.
Yes I'm talking in a very gamified manner but I'm trying to explain Dan's logic
great call. better than double egg roll imo
Chat is too trigger happy with the BM allegations. It’s not BM to make a joke
If your phone has these issues and you know it, you would bring it up for a critical situation where someone is going to take a 1.5 hour train ride to SEE YOU... And not figuring out some way to connect when there is a lack of comms is YOUR responsibility if you have a bad phone!
I had a work day last week where mid day my sim was dislodged, my girlfriend also had this happen a month before. I was on wifi but for some reason my phone wont recieve texts from people on wifi with no sim. It happens pretty often from dropping your phone and theres not like a notification to tell you
This is a bit unhinged.. I hope people don't actually take this advice.
I love you bro!!! Double upload is crazzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyy
get the girl on the stream
One and a half hour train ride isn't even that bad, though for a gf is a yikes.
I have had that exact same issue before, where texts just don't go through randomly for a few days, then I suddenly get texts from a few days ago. If there's any excuse I'm inclined to believe, it's that technology failed. (She still should've tried another way to communicate if it's happened to her before).
Even if what she is saying is true, they both didn't hear from each other, and yet he still travelled out an hour and a half to go see her and was still optimistic, whereas she assumed the worst and didn't even bother to show up, even though it was close to her. Even if you believe her 100%, it's just a really bad look on her, and I think it's reasonable to have that sour the relationship and not wanting the relationship to start out that way.
But also, I'm still just getting caught up on the fact that if her text messages weren't sending then she probably would have gotten a "failed to send" message, or at least they'd have the spinning symbol next to them or something. So either she didn't notice that, or it glitched out and didn't show that, or she's lying. Also, the thing that irks me is just that, as far as I know, she didn't send a screenshot of the messages she sent him on the Friday. I feel like that would have been enough proof for me (even if they could have been faked). But she didn't send them, even after he explicitly asked for those. Instead she sent a video of her sending messages to her friend saying he didn't stand her up? Like how does that prove anything?
I will say, though, she probably could message her friends because she was probably messaging them on instagram. He said at one point that he thinks her friends typically message on there. But also, again, she never addressed that when he asked about it. Just bad communication.
This content is like long form gamer Loveline with Dr Drew and I am eating bro
Honestly I don’t think Dan gives one single piece of good advice in this video, it’s pretty horrendous
Barty I'm hitting you with a BM for this one
24:30 so animated lol
This is peak!
I need so much more of this
I believe her
the excuse that your phone isn't working when you're on IG perfectly fine and have another way to communicate is wild
I think a text being ultra blunt as dan advised is the wrong play, since he spent an entire day with her being aimable and understanding to her face, if he texts being agressive, that would be a pussy/weak move in my book
I'm 38 minutes into the video. I believe the accidental ghosting phone issues. I buy it.
I'm 35 minutes in. It's so easy for her to prove, all she needs to do is go to her conversation with him and show her texts being sent chronologically before his. His phone would show his texts before hers, easy as that.
Texts populate on time received instead of time sent for this reason, if she could show that then there you go.
I buy it too. The type of person who would ghost like that would not also go on that big of an apology tour right after. I would give another chance
I genuinely had the same sim card issue last week. When you drop your phone enough your sim card starts dislodging throughout the day and it doesnt tell you other than the text on the top changing a tiny bit
I buy it. If she had SIM card issues she can still use cellular data/wifi. (Instagram/facetime). SIM card is just calling and text
@@carsonpuff6665 that's not true, but yes she could use WiFi
Who in the year 2024 is still texting on cell service when they have a wifi connection available to upload an instagram story? I get benefit of the doubt but her story just doesn't add up to me
Loosing brain cells looking at TH-cam comments 😔🔥🧠🔥
Those text message bombs were insane for pre-first date, it would have taken a miracle to salvage the actual date
the way my jaw dropped when he told her "i feel like shes telling the truth". Full force manipulation hooooooooly