122. Jazmen Jafar, Farha Khalidi - The Michael Sartain Podcast

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  • @MichaelSartain
    @MichaelSartain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    It’s incredible how Jazmine Jafar was running rough shot over different content creators with her argument that hypergamy does not manifest in real life. I gave three examples where it does and none of you seem to notice that I countered her argument. Instead you criticize me for not being harder on them 😂
    This is the best example ever that winning a debate doesn’t mean anything. All you guys want is blood🤣

    • @FullMetalJedi
      @FullMetalJedi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @MichaelSartain Next time go after her BS sources if you plan to have her on again. For example the first time she was on Fresh and Fit she cited Paul Dolan about women supposedly being "happier when not married" but if you actually look into it that was redacted in May of 2019 long before she went on so she either acted in bad faith or didn't check her sources.
      The guy supposedly misinterpreted the study which actually asked men and women if they were happier while in the same room as the person they were married to then were separated into different rooms then asked once again if they were happier than before. Stuff like this happens when you use sources that aren't meta-analysis. Very disingenuous.

    • @madsaltyskills
      @madsaltyskills 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are too busy trying to make friends with these bitches that don't care about you instead of pushing back on things and constantly giving her High Fives 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @Avm1984
      @Avm1984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Maybe because she didn’t concede to your counters Mike. I think you allowed her to carry on the discussion without pinning her down on acknowledging the reasons why she’s wrong. P.S this is not hate your a smarter man than I could ever wish to be, just constructive criticism

    • @crazyguywatchnu
      @crazyguywatchnu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No we want consistency from you 45:52 there is none

    • @MichaelSartain
      @MichaelSartain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@crazyguywatchnu wow, your timestamp brought up a point where I completely countered destiny’s point. Thank you for proving my point. I’m going to have my team make a clip of this. Dude, stop showing that you’re so low IQ and accept the fact that you’re just saw facts presented in a debate. Sit back and learn something.

  • @markchristensen4270
    @markchristensen4270 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Only Fans should be called Only Simps! Because only simps would spend money on it!

    • @williamclayton9566
      @williamclayton9566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      90% married men.

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly ​@@williamclayton9566.

    • @f250ford1975
      @f250ford1975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah those 90% of men paying for only fans getting cheated on by their wives... Yes those are the Simps😂😂😂​@@williamclayton9566

    • @acclason17
      @acclason17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Somebody subscribed 😂😂😂

    • @ItsOnlyFate777
      @ItsOnlyFate777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@williamclayton9566 thus the only simps argument.. because they spend on both their wife who isn't pleasing them and the OF girl who also doesn't please them...
      So the ops coment is valid....

  • @tcgcasual5080
    @tcgcasual5080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    This was a painful watch. Every time he brought up a good point they would push back with a counter and instead of elaborating on his perspective he would adjust his view to fit theirs or unnecessarily concede ground which weakened his initial argument. This was particularly painful with the conversation on mate selection and hypergamy as well as APA - traditional Masculinity. If you're afraid to offend you will struggle to convince, that's exactly how this went down. Michael offers descriptions but no perscriptions but goes on to say he offers coachong advice. If you can't convonce the opposite gender of your views on dating then what value is there in claiming you're teaching men what women want?

    • @alexharris2495
      @alexharris2495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly this

    • @slackkkkk4048
      @slackkkkk4048 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True

    • @The_Growth_Experience
      @The_Growth_Experience 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thought was the only one seeing that shit. Girl with the glasses straight up lied about the divorce stats 😂

    • @alexharris2495
      @alexharris2495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @The_Growth_Experience lol that's what she does. Every. Single. Time.

    • @Dimllll773
      @Dimllll773 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@The_Growth_Experiencebru half the chit they source is straight up lies/embelished/massively out of context...
      All they do is well what if this and ik this 1 person

  • @kristianyanez9032
    @kristianyanez9032 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Finally someone can talk to this lady! She’s debating without trying to understand before demanding to be understood.

  • @PersonWithPhone
    @PersonWithPhone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Destiny children's

    • @bradlee3109
      @bradlee3109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oooo I see what you did there…

    • @Dimllll773
      @Dimllll773 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And none of them would touch him 🤣
      But theyll say they would so thwy can be right and have they cake and eat it 2

  • @dmil843
    @dmil843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Stop elevating these horz

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Stop watching, then.

    • @Benito0421
      @Benito0421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josewmeldondo he probably watches for the psychology studies.

  • @codywirth8190
    @codywirth8190 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    "everyone wants resources equally"
    Then where's all the sugar mommas supporting young broke men?

    • @mahiganti
      @mahiganti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      drizzle drizzle

    • @lf4678
      @lf4678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Plenty of them!!

    • @codywirth8190
      @codywirth8190 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Dimllll773
      She keeps bringing up marriage stats as the ultimate repository for her arguments like over half of them don't end in divorce.

    • @graywalkerjoin3rdparty74
      @graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@codywirth8190 Couple that with the fact that most OF subs are Married Men shows how great Marriage is.

    • @19382q
      @19382q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lf4678no there’s none of them

  • @Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI
    @Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    She really thinks Andrew Wilson is scared to debate her 😂😂😂 Destiny is scared to debate him and all her and Farhas points mainly come from him. That wouldnt be a debate, it would be a massacre.

    • @dizzzzzzler
      @dizzzzzzler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has already debated both on multiple occasions and destroyed them. Even got the non-lawyer to admit that if she had sex with her brother, she wouldn’t see it as immoral if a baby wasn’t conceived. Totally insane degenerate!

    • @randallflagification
      @randallflagification 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Destiny’s debated Andrew for years among multiple topics and always makes him look foolish

    • @Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI
      @Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@randallflagification You mean Destiny looked foolish.

    • @carlospthedon
      @carlospthedon หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Chrischi_Z_GermanGUIdestiny destroy that dude every time

  • @Benito0421
    @Benito0421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Here we go.
    304 lawyer & Farha Khalifa

    • @phantom1finisher
      @phantom1finisher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She's not a actual lawyer

    • @rayven1178
      @rayven1178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's just like every other delusional woman with a bit more business sense so she think she's superior to other girls because she makes money from simps.

    • @DMartizx
      @DMartizx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Virgin Mia Khalifa

    • @rogerteaminski6351
      @rogerteaminski6351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just a normal 304 and Mid Khalifa.

    • @SelphieFairy
      @SelphieFairy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why do incels use 304? Shouldn’t it be 04 or y’all that lacking in basic spelling and vocabulary? It’s funny to me that a huge term you all use has an obvious spelling mistake in it.

  • @iamrubbertoee
    @iamrubbertoee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Clout is a hell of a drug

  • @ElPlan1414
    @ElPlan1414 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Talking to of girls? What is the point? Are they role models?

    • @CashFlow287
      @CashFlow287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      its called collaborative advertising. Red pill audience are their largest customer base. They brag about this often

    • @lisaburroughs7847
      @lisaburroughs7847 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marketing 101..tits and ass sell.. Sartain knows if he has OF girls on he will get more viewers then if he interviewed successful business women his own age.

  • @marcuswalker6764
    @marcuswalker6764 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The main issue with Jazmyn beside how embarrassing her current profession is to a mans reputation is the fact of her assuming things are facts because SHE personally knows A HANDFUL of people who do something. Life works in GENERALITIES

  • @TheSteeVeau
    @TheSteeVeau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Omg these 2 again.

    • @Sighthound-Siege
      @Sighthound-Siege 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wooh! Redpill Lions! 🦁🔥🦁🔥

    • @TheSteeVeau
      @TheSteeVeau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Looks like Jazmen is actually covering up for once.... I bet this episode'll be annoying as fuck

    • @Sighthound-Siege
      @Sighthound-Siege 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@TheSteeVeau(two less incentives for some guys to watch)

    • @ccl5853
      @ccl5853 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      They know Michael isnt as a savage as Marquett .

    • @jnels8870
      @jnels8870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I peaced out after 15mins, shocked I made it that long.

  • @ar2851
    @ar2851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Two of the worst human human beings that aren't serial killers

    • @MaccusFNS
      @MaccusFNS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you and your mom?

    • @ar2851
      @ar2851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MaccusFNS
      Oh look a simp

    • @ar2851
      @ar2851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@MaccusFNS
      Oh look a simp

    • @friendlypedokiller3026
      @friendlypedokiller3026 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MaccusFNS 👈 monkeypox spreader

    • @friendlypedokiller3026
      @friendlypedokiller3026 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MaccusFNS 👈 AIDS

  • @ScottieDOESknow1979
    @ScottieDOESknow1979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    "Andrew Wilson is scared to debate me"
    STOP THE CAP
    Andrew already dunked on this broad multiple times, and the best grilling WAS the 1v1 on HIS channel.
    HERE'S THE LINK - th-cam.com/video/K2r_J2Fq-5M/w-d-xo.html
    She also was overwhelmingly decimated on any panel she shared with Andrew because he didn't let her get away with non-nonsensical arguments.
    It's always EASY for him because she's just pseudo-intellectual.

    • @jman3767
      @jman3767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Even on one of the more recent episodes of fresh n fit where they had Andrew Wilson on, around the end of the podcast Andrew literally said he’d debate her again and told fresh n fit to set it up and we LITERALLY voted that we wanted fresh n fit to setup a panel with those 2 on it . Andrew Wilson said out his own mouth and he’s bulldozed her on every debate they’ve ever had , WHICH HE HAS

    • @crazyguywatchnu
      @crazyguywatchnu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3:57 entered a lobbying firm.........hmmmm corporate bend?

    • @crazyguywatchnu
      @crazyguywatchnu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5:01 so she owes her success to fnf

    • @crazyguywatchnu
      @crazyguywatchnu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6:24 you two would have dunked on her. Dude is mad simping for these of. Same as he does for his vegas "friends"

    • @crazyguywatchnu
      @crazyguywatchnu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      7:51 you aren't morally ambiguous you are an intelligent man capitalizing on the focus

  • @wesche7916
    @wesche7916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Didn’t Jazmen debate Andrew already? I am certain I saw it.

    • @cbsguy6363
      @cbsguy6363 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      She did and got destroyed

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, she didn't ​@cbsguy6363

    • @jman3767
      @jman3767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@josewmeldondoshe definitely did

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, she didn't @jman3767

    • @cbsguy6363
      @cbsguy6363 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@josewmeldondo he destroys everyone

  • @Cratossama
    @Cratossama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    So is anyone going to acknowledge how they both got destroyed by Saint & the sinner or we just gonna ignore that

    • @DarkAceOkal
      @DarkAceOkal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I came here to mention it too 😂

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nobody is, because they weren't.

    • @DarkAceOkal
      @DarkAceOkal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@josewmeldondo They resorted to calling him the N word….

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a poc, while I don't condone it, it's just a word. Doesn't kill anybody @DarkAceOkal.

    • @DarkAceOkal
      @DarkAceOkal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josewmeldondo if you resort to something that petty, you’re definitely losing your argument by a large margin😂

  • @keenanschouten2582
    @keenanschouten2582 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coming to the aid of Mr. Sartain:
    1. Everyone doesn't want resources: In general, men want women, while women want excess resources.
    2. An alpha out competes their peers for the best options and is desired by top candidates of the opposite sex, while the same sex wants to emulate them. A promiscuous woman is an Omega, desired mostly by undesirable candidates and not respected by others.
    3. Hypergamy means seeking a superior sociological or educational background. Men aren't hypergamous; otherwise, women with Ph.Ds and billionaires would be dating the most desirable men, which isn't the case.
    4. Neuroplasticity is feature not a bug, therefore men should only marry women under 24 so that the brain is shaped in the loving context of marriage and not college parties
    5. The men that women find most attractive are not seeking women over 25. Michael himself is like 50 dating a 20 year old. If a woman wants the most desirable man she should marry young and not have been promiscuous because she can someone but she cannot get "the one" she wants because "the one" she wants has lots of what are known as OPTIONS.

  • @LovedByYou
    @LovedByYou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Michael was really nice to her. I think the other redpolls guy made her soooo much more defensive than she needed to be with you. You were actually very respectful.

  • @WakeboardStud28
    @WakeboardStud28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's terrible that the Western World is normalizing this behavior, but from an economic point of view, Jafar's logic makes perfect sense. It discourages you if you are working in a conventional occupation and still obtaining low pay despite the long hours and effort you put in. It disincentivizes you to pursue that career path. If you pursue a career doing OnlyFans, you can make ten times more money with a fraction of the headache and frustration of working at a regular job. I think our society needs to revise the incentive structure if we do not want to normalize sex work.

    • @williamclayton9566
      @williamclayton9566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      . . . . . .IF you're attractive enough. IF.

    • @Iamahumanehuman
      @Iamahumanehuman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Problem is the West is built on capitalism so revising the incentive structure means telling the West to care less about pursuing wealth, status and fame and that will never ever happen.
      The deterioration of morals and values was an inevitable consequence given the foundation of the country’s economic structure.

    • @SakuraDove
      @SakuraDove 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly, Jafar is just a product of her time. If all those thousands of men were not subscribed to her page, she would never have left a career as a lawyer. She is willing to commodify her body and sex life just for a pretty dime. Can't begin to imagine how torn her parents are.

  • @StudSupreme
    @StudSupreme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    jazmen got torn to shreds by jeff cooper and F&F with her many half-truths, deliberate distortions and her frequent use of disproved theorems regarding sexual behavior.

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, she didn't.

    • @StudSupreme
      @StudSupreme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@josewmeldondo Did.

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn't

    • @StudSupreme
      @StudSupreme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@josewmeldondo Did times 10.

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Didn't times infinity.

  • @Impeach_the_queen
    @Impeach_the_queen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My question coming into this: Will these women acknowledge the plight of the average man? Spoiler alert. No they don’t. They default to the top men.
    My critique of Farha is typically that she is arguing with a made up caricature in her head and never listens to what the other person is actually saying. She didn’t talk as much but I found Jazmen to more often than not be doing this same thing. You can see the evidence of this by the multiple times she articulates Michael’s point incorrectly back to him. The biggest display of this was her frequent inability to see when they agreed and would cut him off to say something that was exactly in line with what he was saying.

    • @Exalted_Example
      @Exalted_Example 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After fhara admitted she was a government sponsored psyop i have no clue how anyone could ever entertain any of these dingbats again for a single second.

  • @ishmael_03
    @ishmael_03 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Pass!

  • @alexanderg9670
    @alexanderg9670 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Michael, clean your room

  • @truthdweller3454
    @truthdweller3454 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate people who constantly interrupt themselves and can't complete a thought or a sentence. That's Jazmen.

  • @kristianyanez9032
    @kristianyanez9032 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Micheal is doing the nest job at talking with these too. He’s actually communicating to understand and these two just listen to respond. Very impressed. Micheal is the goat! Idc

    • @jnnx
      @jnnx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The “nest job”? Is Micheal secretly a bird or a goat? MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND!

  • @niraj4024
    @niraj4024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Michael should understand she is arguing to just argue, she is doing it in bad faith. She is giving push backs to be relevant. Deep down she knows whats right but if she would agree, her attention pool wont grow, which is sourced from redpill podcasts where she is only invited coz she is giving pushbacks. Now if michael already understand that and trying to monetize this situation and still bullying viewres by telling them " mofos I aint call them names". Viewers need to leave these people alone. This is not entertainment, this is trap. Its not that men didnt know what attracts women before these podcasts began.

  • @joshlytle9529
    @joshlytle9529 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Nope. Cant do it.

  • @Strategy_Nate
    @Strategy_Nate 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Farha lives in my building, funny how I’ve seen her day to day and she 100% is the biggest instigator of disagreement everywhere she goes

  • @IvanRodriguez-pj4ow
    @IvanRodriguez-pj4ow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Should've pushed a bit more on pair bonding

  • @Impeach_the_queen
    @Impeach_the_queen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Jazmen: I’m the alpha male in my relationship.
    Wild watching her literally saying she doesn’t respect her man and acting like this relationship is gonna work. Just like destiny seeing nothing wrong with his marriage then it falls apart exactly the way you think it would.

    • @biobelewilliam-west1310
      @biobelewilliam-west1310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Run

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fucking facts, it was depressing seeing destiny not realize he was the victim being used for so long

    • @mavymcmicahmiller
      @mavymcmicahmiller หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Disgusting

  • @beallyoucanbeg7628
    @beallyoucanbeg7628 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Praise to everyone in this space I’m taking notes because it takes beyond strength to speak to brick walls

  • @funisanartform
    @funisanartform 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    lol the way Jayzmen constantly looks down on Michael throughout the interview is hilariously off-putting. Throws a jab at him at every opportunity and he just lets it wash over him. I respect the calmness.

  • @debbydetermined
    @debbydetermined 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this conversation guys, it's not easy to find intellectual value in these spaces. Both sides were clearly really well educated on this topic and it just goes to show that we can come to the table and discuss things like adults, and actually, we probably all agree on many things. Great job!

  • @armando5213
    @armando5213 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Imaging going home to that fake lawyer. I would defiantly cheat and I’m not a cheater 😂

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She's not a fake lawyer. And you probably won't have anyone to cheat on anyway.

    • @armando5213
      @armando5213 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josewmeldondo she is and you’re triggered 🤣

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, she isn't, and no, I'm not. You probably don't know the meaning of the word.

  • @slartibartfast2452
    @slartibartfast2452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One point you forgot regarding health, fitness and womens body type. Men, generally speaking will go fir the one that seems like the least effort to keep. Its also not necessarily that even some men like big women. More often than not, its that he knows thats all he can get.

    • @slartibartfast2452
      @slartibartfast2452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Dimllll773 agreed. Was thinking to bring up the fetish, but I wasn't sure if that would get the comment deleted. Never know with yourube.

    • @slartibartfast2452
      @slartibartfast2452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Dimllll773 also. Isn't it only one particular small vilage in africa where big is the preference They make it sound like all african men are down with it. Ya look at the average african. They are slim, not thick.
      Ps. Just searched it. Average weight for woman in africa is 123lbs to 141lbs. That definitely pre *thick*
      Given what ive seen in her other interviews. This is not a lawyer I'd want representing me. A lot of the time she just seems to be repeating nice sounding things she wants to believe are true. Things shes heard somewhere that have nothing to back them up.

    • @ItsDeonJulio
      @ItsDeonJulio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Study after study’s says men are completely indifferent to a woman’s socioeconomic status. Doesn’t make her more or less attractive. Jazmen is talking out of her ass as usual

  • @MEGAbrandon281
    @MEGAbrandon281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Shout out to the NGOs trying to criminalize the Redpill

    • @danerook
      @danerook 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shut up. The Redpill saves lives and is the truth about female nature. You are wrong and ignorant

    • @danerook
      @danerook 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are a traitor who hates men.

    • @danerook
      @danerook 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are wrong

  • @jasonu3741
    @jasonu3741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2:09:00 Andrew Wilson will not debate you? hes afraid to debate you?
    has he not debated both these girls twice? Farha conceded and Jasmine could not substantiate her points.
    But I can see why Andrew would not debate Farha for a 3rd time there is no substance,interest or entertainment hell she spends all her time just "asking questions"
    as if she's trying to understand the position of her opposition but then if asked to steel man their position to show her competence in understanding their
    stance what does she do... ask more questions. Her Daria Khalifa impression also gets old you see even in this discussion (since there was no debate) she is pretty
    much a non factor in the conversation.

  • @Dimllll773
    @Dimllll773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bruh...
    1 cant read a graph and her bf cant watch adult content...
    The other siliconed on steroids and says looks dont matter while arguing for class based dating and non commitment...
    They cant even repeat destiny points correctly

  • @AlexLancuba
    @AlexLancuba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Farha is really going to just throw out an incorrect statistic from “Dr. David Buss” to Mike Sartain. lol. The audacity.

  • @behrooz9010
    @behrooz9010 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW! after this Podcast I am a fan of @MichaelSartain. He is the Godfather of numbers and stats. Love ur work man!

  • @socrates2788
    @socrates2788 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This conversation makes clear that the difference between men and women is not that women are hypergamous and men aren’t. As pointed out, both are “hypergamous.” Instead, it’s because men can benefit much more from promiscuity than women.
    Genetic success ~ number of children x quality of children
    In the case of men, the number of children factor increases with number of partners, but not for women.

    • @williamclayton9566
      @williamclayton9566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You, as well as Michael Sartain, have confused hypergamy with optimization. Think about that for a second. Hypergamy is not simply pursuing 'better', it is an active, hard-wired rejection of anything BELOW a certain standard. I.e., once a woman has had a '9', she CAN'T feel attraction for '6s' anymore. If she perceives herself to be a '7' she can't feel attraction for a '6' either. And you know what most women think of themselves . . . . . .

    • @socrates2788
      @socrates2788 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@williamclayton9566 ok and if she finds two guys that are above her standard…? She chooses the best of the two. Consider yourself refuted.

    • @williamclayton9566
      @williamclayton9566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@socrates2788 That does not refute anything I said. You, too, have confused hypergamy with optimization. EVERYONE all the time wants "better" - that's optimization. The difference is that the man that can't get a '10' to commit (but may have banged one when she was drunk) can be perfectly happy with a '7', whereas with a woman that's a '6' may have only rejected a few 9s & 10s on Tinder and never dated or even met up with them is now unconsciously convinced that she can get all kinds of '8s' to marry her, AND that said '8' is beneath her and that if she were to marry the 8 she' be 'settling' - i.e., she'll never be happy.

  • @drakkdamage8064
    @drakkdamage8064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    22:27 where's the show with Nicolette?

  • @St4rdog
    @St4rdog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So much whining.
    1:53:40 All commentors on F&F are 13-year-olds? 😂
    1:50:20 Who needs them to suffer? Sounds like a straw man.
    1:51:26 Again? F&F ask them simple questions and they give insane answers.
    2:03:22 Literally you Michael. 😂 It's true if that's what everybody thinks.
    2:03:36 Ok grandad.
    Farha needs mental help. Her views on porn/etc are bizarre.

  • @nicoedits6940
    @nicoedits6940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You gave them clout congrats

  • @allendoe3869
    @allendoe3869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What happens to all these young men that don't have family's? Michael said more men are single than women . But they don't talk about what that will do to society in the future .

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't give a fuck about men, they're wallets to be drained and that's it, these women have no respect

  • @nateleibold4221
    @nateleibold4221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Michael is definitely giving as little pushback as possible. She says you are unlucky that you molested little kids and go to jail. His response, “True but we should put them in prison.” The correct answer is they aren’t lucky at all Michael.

    • @MichaelSartain
      @MichaelSartain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seriously? I totally countered their point about hypergamy and you think I gave them a “little pushback”?
      It’s crazy how your psychological bias only allows you to hear what you want to hear.

    • @nateleibold4221
      @nateleibold4221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MichaelSartain my example of how she characterized people who molest children and do bad things aren’t bad and are just unlucky you were like “yeah probably but put them in jail still.” So put people in jail because they are unlucky, not because they are evil.

    • @animefanforlife163
      @animefanforlife163 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@MichaelSartain you didn't call her a 304 constantly so now you will be labeled a simp welcome to the club michael lol😂

    • @MichaelSartain
      @MichaelSartain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@animefanforlife163 I didn’t punch them in the head so I’m a simp now 🤣🤣🤣

  • @newbritainpauly4841
    @newbritainpauly4841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I blame the simps !!!

  • @MrNathan1575
    @MrNathan1575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m not sure why you are still doing interviews with these types of women? I just skip now until I see an actually decent guest in your show.
    We all know what these type of women are about & have done the rounds a million times & try to get clout in all the shows. Disproving them means nothing for men. We know what they are. Would much prefer content that builds men up & helps them, rather than showing what these women are over & over. Nothing against you Michael at all, but I just think this type of interviewing with these women has run its coarse a long time ago.

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're wrong.

    • @MrNathan1575
      @MrNathan1575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josewmeldondo lol. Such an intelligent response

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Unlike yours.

    • @MrNathan1575
      @MrNathan1575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josewmeldondo lol. I truly hope you find these type of women in your life. Good luck mate.

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least I can find women, unlike you.

  • @zpa4646
    @zpa4646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    no it is totally fine to use the word "hypergamy" in a different context. there is in fact a physical side of hypergamy, size, strength, looks, etc...that is very much a part of female hypergamy

  • @enigmatics101
    @enigmatics101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sometimes I wonder if the goal is to actually confront the nonsense in a demonstrable way, ensure that they will come back on the show, have you on their show, lock in future 3some candidates, or all of the above.

  • @CultureClubUSA
    @CultureClubUSA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @Sighthound-Siege
      @Sighthound-Siege 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      DiBrava! At least there’s one wonderful woman here!

    • @CultureClubUSA
      @CultureClubUSA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sighthound-Siege❤😂

  • @IphigeniaAtAulis
    @IphigeniaAtAulis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For hypergamy, she constantly confuses correlation with causation. It's true that as a general rule, most people tend to end up marrying across their socio-economic status structure rather than up or down. However, studies have clearly shown that a woman's socio-economic status is not a major factor in mate selection by men, while it is a huge factor for women. The reason billionaires don't marry barista's has more to do with the social circle that the run in than the actual status. In essence, people tend to marry people they socialize a lot with, and since billionaires hang out with billionaires, they tend to marry each other.
    Also, the data from online dating sites clearly shows that 80% of the woman are only replying to the top 20% of men. This is to be expected because a study showed that when women have more mate options (or the perception of more options) they tend to be selective in mate selection.

  • @kevindowns995
    @kevindowns995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I didn’t watch the debate mainly because these two are intolerable, I had to comment when I seen my dude Andrew Wilson comment on these two talking trash after AW already destroyed both of them in a debate. I’m hoping MS at least checked them on that asinine comment, knowing AW already debated them both

  • @Wushu-viking
    @Wushu-viking 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Michael got the best out of Jazmen.. She is really not a bad as her rep is in the RP-space. I always knew she was intelligent, but not attacking her, brings out the positive side of her. You can disagree with someone's views and life choices, without attacking them.

    • @andreasmelkersson3592
      @andreasmelkersson3592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Wushu-viking She is not that intelligent. She makes many mistakes.

  • @pidouble145
    @pidouble145 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m surprised there is so much negativity. This was a good, interesting discussion!

  • @aj3kingz
    @aj3kingz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I feel like Michael back tracked in this debate.

    • @gazoo5248
      @gazoo5248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      He absolutely conceded way too much ground. The lawyer was jumping to some seriously way off conclusions.

    • @MichaelSartain
      @MichaelSartain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Wow, it’s incredible how you guys totally missed the part where I countered their main argument about hypergamy.
      It’s like you didn’t even watch the debate 🤣🤣🤣
      You needed me to reach over and punch them or something

    • @APEGantz
      @APEGantz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MichaelSartain They wanted blood to feel good or something.

    • @cbsguy6363
      @cbsguy6363 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He was surely rattled, perhaps he should have had some backup

    • @MichaelSartain
      @MichaelSartain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@cbsguy6363 again, you have no counter to what I just said so you make up more nonsense. This is why you will always be poor and be a failure.🤣🤣🤣 I used fact and reason in order to win this debate. You don’t understand what that looks like because you want people to scream at each other.

  • @SakuraDove
    @SakuraDove 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great interview Michael. I wasn't aware how educated and accomplished you are in your career. Please post more debates with interesting people.

  • @ATageH
    @ATageH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jazmen continues her streak of winning every debate she is in with facts and logic. She is unbeatable.

    • @Iamahumanehuman
      @Iamahumanehuman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her IQ and level of articulation is really really impressive.

    • @Iamahumanehuman
      @Iamahumanehuman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still ain’t finna sub to her OF tho

    • @ConversationalBibleCompanion
      @ConversationalBibleCompanion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What universe are you from 🤣🤣🤣

  • @slartibartfast2452
    @slartibartfast2452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The done at 30 thing does not come from men. That originated from other women.
    Also. Her being done at 30 is not a result of men, but more so this phenomenon we have see more and more often projected online. Done at 30 comes from her, as thats when she typically decides her stands have to go up and not down.
    If shes not finding what she wanted. Its likely because for her, what she wanted was not obtainable, even in her prime.

  • @v9b23j
    @v9b23j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A study conducted in Australia indicates that when women are primary breadwinners, instances of intimate partner violence and infidelity tend to rise. In addition, based on data regarding wages and prescription medication in Denmark, men who earn less than their wives are more inclined to use erectile dysfunction medication compared to men who are the primary breadwinners, even if the income gap is minimal. I think this shows that while men and women are economically and socially equal, men like to feel powerful (and women respect men who are equal or above their socio-economic status).

  • @P-DUBZduharte
    @P-DUBZduharte 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    #REDPILLUP

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤓

    • @P-DUBZduharte
      @P-DUBZduharte 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josewmeldondo 😂🫡

  • @brandonmorales8485
    @brandonmorales8485 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stop platforming these 304’s

  • @nicoleduq2906
    @nicoleduq2906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Andrew has already roasted these two 304’s, on multiple occasions. The demons are screeching again. 🙄

  • @tylerdurden3722
    @tylerdurden3722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jafar is failing to understand that attraction triggers of men aren't the only factor that influences male marriage choices, in practice. In other words, the women that men choose to marry doesn't give you a direct correlation with what men find attractive in women. Men don't choose or leave girlfriends/wives purely with attraction as the motivator behind behavior (in men, emotion and impulses are suppressed by other things like internal goals, internal morals, etc by default)
    An extreme example is an Absolute Monarch marrying the daughter of another King for an alliance, breeding a successor, etc. His choice of wife is not influenced by attraction at all. This marriage would tell an alien, using this King as a study sample, absolutely nothing about what that man's "heart's" attraction triggers are (as in what his heart truly wants).
    But, the king's mistress who he keeps undercover would tell you a whole lot more about his attraction triggers.
    Male partner choices are influenced by reputation, ambition/goals, family opinion/compatibility, genetics that the kids will inherit, etc. The more successful the man, the more likely his choice of wife is going to be influenced by such non-attraction (non-emotion) driven things.
    It's why very rich men used to marry tall supermodels with Masters degrees from a prominent family which the guy displays like an accessory and this trophy wife is otherwise bored and unhappy at home on vallium and red wine staring at Jose the Poolboy, but this Rich man also has a short sexy mistress who he met at McDonalds and takes on trips to the Bahamas, etc ("business trips").
    Woman 1 is useful for reputation, goals, ambition, breeding, etc in ways that don't involve romantic emotion...and was chosen accordingly
    Woman 2 is for everything that involves romantic emotion/impulses.

  • @MenhanceYourGame
    @MenhanceYourGame 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That 304 LAWYER is getting LARGE!!!!

  • @danerook
    @danerook 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jazmen is not an attorney

  • @lazyd.williams1555
    @lazyd.williams1555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Commenting to support the channel.

  • @Iamahumanehuman
    @Iamahumanehuman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the conversation. Hope you guys get to have the free will conversation

  • @lf4678
    @lf4678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    World famous model lol😂😂😂😂 straight cap

  • @devilsadvocacy
    @devilsadvocacy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to correct something the host said about the Castle Doctrine, otherwise referred to a defense-of-habitation laws. The Castle Doctrine dates to the English common law, and in a nutshell, states that it is lawful to use deadly force to repel intrusion into one’s home. It is still good law in most state, including California(see Penal Code § 198.5), Michael’s assertion notwithstanding.
    I think there may be some confusion between the Castle Doctrine and stand-your-ground laws, which were not part of the common law and are entirely of statutory creation. Stand-your-ground laws differ in that they extend, the Castle Doctrine beyond the habitation, to varying degrees in the states that have them.
    From a member of the California Bar

  • @Roan.bot.
    @Roan.bot. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting conversation. I’m surprised Farha didn’t push back much. When I’ve seen her have conversations with Destiny it’s like her default setting is “Debate.”

  • @bitcoins4489
    @bitcoins4489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *In Jazmen's debate with Andrew,* she exposed how she has a subjective moral framework - and that she believes all people do. Based on that, it makes no sense for her to disagree with another person's ideology because their moral framework is equal to hers.
    What Michael failed to address is that feminism and hypergamy contradict each other. Also, both genders were brainwashed to believe in equality but the men that believe in equality are getting punished in society - she doesn't want equal, she wants a leader (which is not equal).
    The issue with feminists is that they want to be treated like a traditional lady while simultaneously having feminist ideals. Basically to have their cake and eat it.
    As a man, you need to realize that feminism is here in the West to stay and we're at the point of diminishing returns - it's no longer a benefit to the economy as it once was.
    My secular advice: Date and don't commit here. Then go overseas to find a wife.
    My religious advice: Go overseas to find a wife.

  • @gbaby49
    @gbaby49 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Straight up, this conversation made my insides twist. Idek why I listened. These women are incentivized to downplay the negative effects of pornography (and OF), so watching them pick and choose biased studies; and swerve around language to make being a beta at the end sound like the better lifestyle choice… as purely disgusting as it is; you have to almost expect it. Incentives rule everything. Theirs is to make you weak (ie. more likely to pay for their service). God I hated this conversation. You could even hear Mike groan a little whenever they started back up.

  • @baldeagle4710
    @baldeagle4710 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That chick with the glasses is actually a pretty good speaker

  • @inspektorsx683
    @inspektorsx683 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mental gymnastics to not accept that hypergamy is a fact

  • @neuromancer9k
    @neuromancer9k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Gonna need lots of popcorn for this one. 😆

  • @knockturnal444
    @knockturnal444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tigs!

  • @g-man331
    @g-man331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice picture of the three of you. Your guests are quite knowledgeable.

  • @StudSupreme
    @StudSupreme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Her rationalizations and deliberate distortions of facts all stem from her desperate urge to convince herself that she hasn't failed as a woman - when, in fact, she has. She very clearly wants a man in her life and wants that man to be better than her, but she can't hold onto such a guy. You can see her subconscious screaming at the pain of her loneliness and failures with high value men.

  • @marcuswalker6764
    @marcuswalker6764 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mike should reach out to both Alexander Grace and MTR and see if either or both would come onto access vegas with the ladies. Would be good content

  • @SlickEdge
    @SlickEdge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Been waiting for a debate with these two lol
    Def should also get Pxie & Erin on for a debate too!

    • @Sighthound-Siege
      @Sighthound-Siege 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re busy taking over SOS Cast. “Divide and conquer”

    • @mattstone9364
      @mattstone9364 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Worst idea I ever heard

  • @crazyguywatchnu
    @crazyguywatchnu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:01 bar exam is hazing. Good job zero pushback

  • @beallyoucanbeg7628
    @beallyoucanbeg7628 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These women’s advice/ opinion is ridiculously biased. They are both attractive and not close to making an average wage. Their advice is the equivalent to Grant Cardone saying just make money, it’s easy

  • @kevincarballo6303
    @kevincarballo6303 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    both of these women are insufferable

  • @mbererm
    @mbererm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first ‘red pill’ guy that I didn’t find repulsive and stupid.

  • @instantzander
    @instantzander 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jazmen is not hot and she got kicked off f and f fast i had a sore head from this 2 hours

  • @southeastswell
    @southeastswell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    damn...fast debating...for the slow pokes like me switch to 0.75 speed

  • @richardsearcher3540
    @richardsearcher3540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hats to these chicks partners. They are certainly more tolerant of argumentative women or just betas.

  • @dmc9339
    @dmc9339 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job Michael.. 👍

  • @ecsmooth742
    @ecsmooth742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No. It’s Crazy

  • @danielanderson668
    @danielanderson668 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Farha loves a double standard.

  • @philipchristensen8429
    @philipchristensen8429 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At some point, both girls just needed to take "yes" for an answer. At 51:15, JJ seems to do it, while at the same time it seemed she was thinking that she got Mike to come over to her way of thinking. Sigh. Whatever gets you to the afterglow, Princess.

  • @300PIVOTMASTER
    @300PIVOTMASTER 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:49:18 Forbidding the guy from talking to other women while she openly looks to replace him for a long-term partner is genuinely wild, even by "alpha male" standards. She even claims he's madly in love with her. Never seen such an advanced form of cuckoldry...

  • @LovedByYou
    @LovedByYou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like her, she makes these men have to come with more to say then just body count, cheating isn’t bad, and marriage sucks. You GO GIRL!!!

    • @alexharris2495
      @alexharris2495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol, everytime she tries to challenge anyone in RP they make her look like a complete idiot

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, they don't ​@alexharris2495

    • @alexharris2495
      @alexharris2495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josewmeldondo lol y'all might like lying to yourselves, but people who live in reality see what's going on

    • @josewmeldondo
      @josewmeldondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not lying, just facts @alexharris2495

    • @alexharris2495
      @alexharris2495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@josewmeldondo lol, the only fact is that they have been ruthlessly eviscerated by everyone they went up against. Saint and sinner, Andrew Wilson, Michael knowles(where farha showed that she couldn't even read a graph properly), sartain, rollo, fresh and fit...... list goes on and on

  • @Learnguitartoday
    @Learnguitartoday 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why does the internet say michael sartain is 68?

  • @williamclayton9566
    @williamclayton9566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mike - don't confuse hypergamy with optimization. EVERYBODY optimizes, all the time. They just use different combinations of criteria.

  • @The_LightArrow
    @The_LightArrow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    get andrew wilson to debate these 304s, id love to see an actual debate not whatever tf this was

    • @showcase0525
      @showcase0525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This was a discussion on a topic with some differences, not a debate.

  • @conrade0404
    @conrade0404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Capp again smh

  • @robertrios1732
    @robertrios1732 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Michael loves 304 because its gets him three somes, what a weak man. Real men dont have three somes with their main