I completely agree with the lack of platonic relationships thing. Even though YA contemporary is one of my favourite genres, it becomes extremely repetitive and boring. I also find that a lot of the times when there is a platonic male/ female frienship, one of them is gay which is fine, obviously, but it can feel like a plot device which I am less ok with.
+Lamp Sunnies To me, it's the romance genre in general that erks me, it just never feels realistic. Maybe one book here or there, but most of them look the same to me.
It's like the only way they could be platonic friends is if one of them physically can't be attracted to the other *rolls eyes* like more LGBT characters is great but not if they're there just to be the gay friend...
Lol I remember that video very well because Wayward Son was one my fav. lgbtq+ books. Also this tells how a person can change no matter how strong their beliefs are regarding *anything*
Well... She gives out a negative vibe... Like ik... Lung cancer is something serious... But she behaves like her life is gonna end the next second... And she gets too moody... Never happy... I like happy people!
@@Writing_freak I think it's mostly because she has depression but not that type where you can't do anything but the type where everything is just not good and life gets bland.
I hated him from the start when watching the first film - then I read all the books (all before the second film was even close to release) and then my Gale hatred was justified!
Gillian Sullivan same (SPOILERS BELOW) it really winds me up in Mockingjay, when Peeta had been brainwashed and was psychologically shattered, and even outside of the love triangle Katniss and Peeta were friends and with everything else going on Gale spends 65% of that book whining that Katniss isn’t giving him enough attention and being jealous of the guy who’s been tortured and driven to madness. It’s like being jealous of someone with a terminal illness for getting more attention from your mutual friends...
+Jen Hugs Books JEN OMG YOU"RE READING ALL OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS!!! WHAT DID YOU THINK? TELL ME ALL YOU'RE FEELING (sorry for the caps I'm just really excited lol)
I thinks it's seriously one of the best books I've read about that time in life where you feel like you can't move forward until you figure out who you are and you have no idea who that is. And one of the best portrayals of parenting in YA lit. AND ARI & DANTE. And that scene with Ari and his parents at the their table and the love and I can't even. I can't.
I have. I actually hated it. I thought every character was extremely annoying and all were aweful people, Pudge in particular. Also the "shocking moment", could be seen from a mile away.
I actually did love Divergent but the trilogy just go downhills from there in my opinion. I liked Insurgent but not nearly as much as Divergent and I did not enjoy Allegiant at all. So, from my point of view, you aren't missing anything there. I haven't read the Shatter me series, but I would like to give it a try, despite your unpopular opinion ;) Oh, and I own Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and I am looking forward to read it! Thanks for your video!
What ?! I LOVE the Shatter Me series!!! It's sooo good and I love that someone finally turns up with the "bad guy" and I love the romance. but anyway you have your own opinion and I share a lot of them with you.
Me too. Mostly because I suck in writing romantic scene, and prefer platonic/friendship or family-oriented. If that platonic did ended up as romantic feeling (with some any characters bonding), it's a bonus
Same. There’s a friendship between two characters that I love to write. It’s just so sweet because they have two very different paths yet they somehow always find their way back to being able to spend time together. I just really think it’s a lot more fun to write friendships.
I love controversial topics too! I love getting my opinion across and debates. I just love to argue in general 😂 and I think the book troupe you were talking about is insta-love
+Annah Insta-love is definitely apart of it but sometimes it even builds up over time and the relationship can never stay platonic and it's just so irritating to see! And yes, debating is lots of fun :D
+A Clockwork Reader I see what you mean, it's like.characters have to fall in love with the first person they interact with (PS just followed you on Instagram!)
@@horse_stan6007 i'm hella late but i think i would agree with. i liked some of his books when i was a teen but if i reread i think i'd probably say wtf lmao
As a crazy Tolkien fan I do get it. The Hobbit started as a sort of bedtime story that Tolkien told to his kids, so it has that episodic feel to it where each chapter is each night's story. Plus, it wasn't originally so connected to Middle Earth since Lord of the Rings hadn't entered Tolkien's mind yet, so the characters aren't as full as they are in the movies where Peter Jackson had the benefit of all the backstory. I totally agree with you about Tauriel. So many fans like me despise her character simply because she wasn't in the books, but I just fell in love with her. She was a good female character who didn't hit you over the head with the "I'm a strong female, you must worship me because I am strong and female" message. The movies aren't perfect, but they're certainly no where near terrible.
Oh my god thank you! I've never felt strongly enough to say it but Augustus Waters didn't do it for me either. He was very forced and it didn't set well with me.
Yes agreed! I understand that his character is intended to be a bit exaggerated and arrogant and I see the purpose that serves, but I don't like him for it.
I always apprecaite these kinds of videos because it just shows that everyone is unique and has a voice/opinon on everything. I started following you on twitter as well. I would love your thoughts on some of my work as well. If you are just as big a fan of film as you are books I think you will enjoy it.
I was so surprised when you said you weren't really a fan of contemporary novels because it seems like so many other booktubers just love them and I guess I don't really get the appeal either. I've tried multiple times to read different contemporary novels that have been recommended to me and I just didn't enjoy them the way other people did. I finally just decided that maybe it wasn't my genre and I've been happier with my reads lately! I loved this video too and agreed with just about everything you said! Instantly subscribed :-)
I also have no interest to read Anna and the French Kiss, but I know that it's about a girl who likes a guy that already has a girlfriend. That much has put me off, and I've heard that there is a lot of girl hate from the main character.
Hannah, even though I only recently came to watching vloggers, I really love your videos, but I also really wish I hadn't watched this one😂 Augustus Waters is from my fav book Divergent, Anne and The French Kiss books and Rainbow Rowell are books and authors I LOVE so much so it's kinda sad that we don't share those opinions 😢but I understand
Girl I was yelling at my phone screen asking why why whyyyyy. But I understand where you come from and I still appreciate you even though this hurt my soul to hear.
I know I'm super late to this video, but I'm so wounded that you prefer The Hobbit movies to the book!! I'm not mad or offended, just shocked and grieved lol
I hated The Fault In Our Stars. Way too cliche and it was so over hyped, that when I got around to reading the book, I was so disappointed. And Mr. Waters didn't do it for me either. Don't get me wrong, I like a little romance thrown into stories, but it has to have a different plot, other than the romance. One of the reasons I adore The Night Circus. great story, and romance thrown in. :) Don't kill me please.
Jakob Sandevill I didn't mind Tauriel for the most part. After a while I actually started to like her character. However I have to agree that she way too much screentime. I thought her whole subplot was very recycled and the romance with "the hot dwarf" felt very forced and out of nowhere. It would have been alot better if they kept her as more of a side character and maybe expanded her friendship with Legolas. For a trilogy called "The Hobbit" there was very little hobbit and way too much elves and dwarves.
i cant believe the shatter me series is here. its my favourite book series im in love with the characters. i dont understand how someone can hate it. the characters are not at all stereotypical. my best friend hates stereotypes and yet she loved this book so i really dont understand this. yes the romance is a big part of this book but it highlights the story and the writing is just amazing.
Midnight Wolf I am currently half way through unravel me. I enjoy the writing style but I didn't like the ending to shatter me. It felt cheesy. And I don't like that Adam has taken a complete 180 already.
I honestly hate Gale so much and I can never grasp why people like him better than peeta... There is no reason I can think of to like him really at all especially with katniss and over peeta so that's probably my biggest notp I have
Hey! I was so relieved to find 1 person finally who does not LOVE divergent. I too didn't like Divergent trilogy that much, especially because I just read Hunger Games a month before that......And I hate it when people compare hunger games with divergent saying it's similar. I actually had very high expectations on Divergent only because of that.
I'm also not a fan of contemporary, but I did really enjoy Anna and the French kiss. I couldn't get into the other companion novels in that series but I'm glad I picked up Anna and the French kiss. it's the exception to my not liking contemporary, so maybe you would like it also :)
The Nerdy Booktuber Anna and the French kiss is terrible haha. Don’t waste your time on it. There’s a lot of reasons I don’t like it but just watch LilyCReads review on it and u will understand haha
I agree about Gale, but really I do not like Katniss. She is oblivious; I do like the books though. I do have a question of what book tubers mean by contemporary? As a lit prof, I would mean anything written at present. Clearly this is not what you mean though because many of the books you mention are contemporary pop lit by that definition. I have heard this phrase on several people's videos, so thank you for your answer.
+Jayna Lascaibar Contemporary novels (at least in my understanding of the definition I'm not an expert on this so I may be completely off) usually revolve around the life and experiences of teenagers (or adults) most often in respect to their relationships, romantic and otherwise. Often times they can also be stories of self discovery. They take place in modern day and have a real setting and events that could happen in real life. In other words they're not fantasy/science fiction/magical realism/etc. Some examples of contemporary books would be pretty much anything written by John Green like The Fault in our Stars, Paper Towns, Looking for Alaska. Also Rainbow Rowell, like Fangirl, Landline, Eleanor and Park. All of these for the most part are centered around relationships and/or romance. Some examples along the self discovery line would be Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe or The Perks of Being a Wallflower. Both of them have relationship/romance aspects within them but the focus more on the characters discovering who they are. I hope this helps a bit!
+A Clockwork Reader Thanks. After posting the question I did a quick search and found a similar answer. Many University sites were leaning toward my understanding in their course descriptions, but the third entry I found described it as contemporary works that do not also fit into a separate genre (e.g. fantasy, science fiction) also known as contemporary literary realism. I think that what initially raised the question for me was that some other book tubers were using the term most often with what I would consider romance novels, and they were also referring to them as light reads. So I thought maybe the romance novel had been relabeled. What can I say, I am old and out of touch. Thanks for your wonderful content and shining personality. I can tell you truly love reading. I will continue to watch and enjoy.
Yes! I totally agree with you on the male/female platonic relationships. YA often makes it seem like these things don't exist, or if it does, it's because one of them is LGBTQ or it eventually develops into romantic feelings (usually one sided) anyways, which usually just ruins a really awesome friendship.I also agree with your opinion on The Hobbit and its movies; I have read The Hobbit a couple of times, and both times it was just okay for me. I wasn't getting any of the magical feelings everyone else was; but the movies are awesome, and I was able to connect with each one of the characters so much better and actually care for them and what happened during their adventure.
Anna and the French Kiss is probably the best one out of all the companion novels, but I enjoyed Lola and the Boy Next Door too but not as much. They do seem to follow a similar formula. If you do read one of them (though I don't blame you if you don't because my sister hated it), I loved it Anna and the French Kiss so much. It definitely might be for younger readers if you can't really stand when characters make bad/dumb decisions (which is pretty much the whole book because you're rooting for two characters to get together finally). It was the first book I've ever cried during reading where a character DIDN'T die. It really captures Anna's emotions in a way that makes you feel like you're her. It is one of the few YA books where the romance truly felt genuine. I hope this might convince you enough, though maybe you have already since this video is from 2015.
Thank ypu! It's not that I hate Augustus Waters, I just don't really care for him (or Hazel). Also, I HATED the Divergent trilogy. I have a major problem with it. And the third book, don't even get me started on the third book.
+L Smith I'm not a huge fan of the romance genre in general. I like a few, but to me many of them just seem to be the same thing. Especially Nora Roberts (apologies if you enjoy her)
I just read the first book and I did not like it either. For me it was just like a bad quality crossover of X-Men and The Hunger Games. I loved the cover through.
For the Anna and The French Kiss series, you might like the second book (Lola and the Boy Next Door I think it's called) because it invovles some lgbt themes and I recall you saying in a previous video that you would only reach for a contemporary if you are looking for a lgbt book. They could all be read as standalones, so you wouldn't have to read all the books. Just thought I should let you know :)
I didn’t want Katniss to end up with Peeta when I read the books xD but then I saw the movies and reread Hunger Games and it made more sense. First time I read it, I was KatnissxGale ALL THE WAY! Edit: Also, not reading Rainbow Rowell is a sin as far as I’m concerned lol She is one of my FAVORITE authors. Her love stories aren’t instalovey, which I find to be a problem with many YA novels nowadays. I hope you get around to reading her some day :) I agree about Veronica Roth and Augustus Waters, though lol
I fully agree with more platonic male-female relationships in YA! Especially if they are the main characters! Re: Anna and the French Kiss, I was put off reading that very popular book due to, I read, constant slut-shaming of female characters, demonizing of the love interest's girlfriend. I just can't with that girl-on-girl hate.
The main character that i didn't want them to enf up with From my POV i just recently read" It ends with us" so obviously every book takes a turn so how the story would leave an impact and that was lily wuth ryle their relationship kind od seemed to much to takr in but i was glad she chose Atlas at the end... i know my answer didn't match the question but u know I've been thinking abt it lot lately.....
I do understand your opinion about The Hobbit, and I completely respect that because I know a lot of people with the same opinion. I, however, must disagree unfortunately. I read The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings long before the Hobbit films came out, so I have a bias towards the book. I still love the Hobbit films, but I find they have a lot of problems, including adding too much extra unnecessary details (it really should not have been more than 2 regular length movies), and trying too hard to connect to the Lord of the Rings film trilogy (my favorite films of all time BTW). There are many things from the films that were not in the book that I loved, like Tauriel, Legolas (
This is crazy but we have EXACTLY the same opinions ! I thought exactly the same thing about every book you mentioned ! It feels good not to be the only one thinking that, especially about the Shatter Me series, Veronica Roth and The Hunger Games
At the book trope question: ROWAN AND AELIN. Rowan x Aelin is one of my favourite ships in the ToG series, but I found myself wishing that they could've stayed friends, because their friendship was hilarious and unpredictable and beautiful. The like/hate they had for each other made me laugh, and when they fell in love, I loved it of course (I am a hopeless romantic) but I still wish that their friendship lasted longer.
I kind of looked for the titles in the video beforehand and when i saw the hunger games, i was just like "What! I thought Hannah liked the Hunger Games" so I went back and watched it and then just kinda relaxed again.
the Hobbit book is upside down in this video. I'm in the middle of reading Shatter Me and I don't know how long I'm gonna stick with it. I hope I read at least the first one. I get what she meant about the writing style. It's definitely different.
If you’re looking for a series with platonic male-female relationships, the Relentless series by Karen Lynch is really good. It’s fantasy and has a badass female protagonist. You might not like certain stereotypes in it, but it’s worth a read.
I feel like the only reason people ship Katniss and Gale is because he's played by Liam Hemsworth who is very good-looking. In the books he's a lot less likable... YES MORE MALE/FEMALE PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS ALSO STRAIGHT PERSON/GAY PERSON OF SAME SEX PLATONIC RELATIONSHIP PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE I liked Tauriel too! I just wish they didn't have to force her into a love triangle Dx she's too good for that, man. She deserved better. Evangeline Lilly deserved better!
Omg I’m the same with the book trope, I have girl best friends and also quite a few who are boys and aren’t gay and so many times in tv shows, books and even in real life people seem to think you can’t be best friends with a straight guy. The other day my mum heard I was hanging out with a dude and asked if it was my boyfriend and I was like “Mum you so realise that if I’m hanging out with a guy it doesn’t mean it’s my boyfriend” 😂
I'd say another movie adaptation that was just as good if not better than the book is Silence of the Lambs. The only thing that they took out was the sort of love interest Clarice had for her boss. Otherwise, it was spot on.
I did not like Tauriel that much... though I agree, I did love the movies better than the book... oh Btw have you read The Lord of The Rings Triology? if you haven't, then I hope you would becuase they are good... the movies were great too... I have probably watched them 10 times or so... and I would watch them again... and again...
My jaw dropped when you said Augustus Waters. Lol. It hadn't come out at this point, but I think Love Simon was (mostly) better than the book, but the book was good too, it's like they're completely separate to me. But for me, the book is pretty much always better. Lol.
So listening to your opinion on Augustus Waters made me realise I one hundred percent agree. A lot of girls fangirl over him and while I've never hated him, I was never fangirly over him. I find him a little overrated. So like, wow, thank you? Haha
I also don’t like the divergent series by Veronica Roth but I do like a book called Carve the Mark that is also by her that you should read if you haven’t secondly I also recommend the book the daughter of the pirate king. I’m letting you know this because I really need more recommendations for books to read and I like it were there’s a little bit of romance and lots of action. I also really enjoy the books where it sorta tells the story from both the guys side of the story and the girls. So if anyone has any recommendations please do tell me
Stop apologizing for and trying to justify your opinions, they are beautiful! And if anyone gets offended because you don't think the same way they do, that's their problem and not your responsibility.
It's actually kind of sad that I've never found a guy that I can be FRIENDS friends with without them having an interest in me--- and I don't say that in a self-centred or arrogant way. I just wanna know how Hermione feels like being best friends with Ron and Harry. Love ur videos btw
I got so nervous when you put up the hunger games for the OTP you didn’t like because I thought you were going to say Katniss and Peeta, so thank goodness you said Katniss and Gale was the OTP you didn’t like 💀
I completely agree with a bunch of your answers. Although I don't like any ship from The Hunger Games for some reason. I'm also not a fan of contemporaries and rarely reach for them either unless I'm looking for LGBT characters, but I have somehow read a lot of them this year and usually been disappointed. The Anna and the French Kiss series is one that didn't leave me mostly disappointed, however. I think the only thing that made me not love those books is just the fact that I'm not a big fan of contemporaries. I also didn't relate to Anna or Lola as characters. They're fairly quick reads if you do decide to check them out.
+Unicorn Hunter Books Yeah I think the big thing for me with contemporaries is that I tend not to relate to the characters and I don't really know why that is. But yeah definitely if they have LGBTQ main characters, I'm far more likely to pick them up.
Unicorn Hunter Books No, I've never even heard of it! But thank you for the rec, I'll definitely check that one out. I'm always looking for more LGBT books because I plan on doing a whole video on my favorite LGBT reads once I've read a decent amount, so thank you!!
I’m going to have a hopefully awesome platonic relationship between my male main character and my main female character in the book I’m gonna be starting. My female character is a lesbian and is in a relationship, and they’re pretty much gonna be my main males OTP 😂. And I thought about the opening their friendship to my hopefully future readers with: “*My main males name* believes that everyone has different kinds of soulmates. And when it comes to best friends, *my main males name* soulmate is *my main females name*.” but I’m hoping that’s not cliche 😊❤️. Ugh, I kept messing my comment up 😂😂.
I don't know if Love Triangle is a trope but man do I hate it. The quickest way to repel me from a book is to tell me it has a love triangle. Its like choose one and fucking move on already stop stringing one of them along. Love triangles are the reason I stopped reading the vampire diaries, won't read the infernal devices series or any other popular books or series that have a love triangle
You are absolutely allowed to think that! For me personally, The Fault in Our Stars was my favorite book (until I branched out a bit more 😉) . Although I do disagree with the statement about the protagonist. She can come off as snarky as times, but I don't think its because of her "problem". She is just doesn't sugar coat life in the slightest. She tends to be honest but in almost a gruesome way. But I totally understand why you think that. ☺
Madison Smith tbh everyone has their own opinion, for me, I couldn’t get past the first chapter of the book and found it difficult to get though the film, I didn’t rlly understand how people found it so emotional because it’s not rlly my kind of thing but I do understand, a lot of my friends liked it!
+monica book lover I'm glad to see how open some people can be. I am rather unique when it comes to the book community: I couldn't care less for Harry Potter or The Hunger Games. I even broke the #1 rule: I watched the movies first.
Wow I'm surprised you didn't love the Hobbit! But I would guess our opinions differ because I read the book quite a few times long before the films came out whereas you saw the films then read the book. That's kind of interesting to think about lol. Have you read the Lord of the Rings trilogy yet?
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I completely agree with the lack of platonic relationships thing. Even though YA contemporary is one of my favourite genres, it becomes extremely repetitive and boring. I also find that a lot of the times when there is a platonic male/ female frienship, one of them is gay which is fine, obviously, but it can feel like a plot device which I am less ok with.
+Lamp Sunnies To me, it's the romance genre in general that erks me, it just never feels realistic. Maybe one book here or there, but most of them look the same to me.
It's like the only way they could be platonic friends is if one of them physically can't be attracted to the other *rolls eyes* like more LGBT characters is great but not if they're there just to be the gay friend...
2015: Has never read a single Rainbow Rowell.
2019: Cries while even talking about Wayward Son
Lol I remember that video very well because Wayward Son was one my fav. lgbtq+ books. Also this tells how a person can change no matter how strong their beliefs are regarding *anything*
I love Gus. He's one of my favourite book characters😂😍
Same!... On the contrary I hate hazel
@@Writing_freak oh why?
Well... She gives out a negative vibe... Like ik... Lung cancer is something serious... But she behaves like her life is gonna end the next second... And she gets too moody... Never happy... I like happy people!
@@Writing_freak I think it's mostly because she has depression but not that type where you can't do anything but the type where everything is just not good and life gets bland.
@@Writing_freak not everybody can be happy when they're fighting against cancer :/
Thank you! I couldn't stand Gale either!
I hated him from the start when watching the first film - then I read all the books (all before the second film was even close to release) and then my Gale hatred was justified!
Same! I never liked him in annnyy of the books. I was so happy she didn't end up with him.
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Peeta used her lmao
Gillian Sullivan same (SPOILERS BELOW)
it really winds me up in Mockingjay, when Peeta had been brainwashed and was psychologically shattered, and even outside of the love triangle Katniss and Peeta were friends and with everything else going on Gale spends 65% of that book whining that Katniss isn’t giving him enough attention and being jealous of the guy who’s been tortured and driven to madness. It’s like being jealous of someone with a terminal illness for getting more attention from your mutual friends...
Ii hated him as well
when you said:''Augustus Waters'' i was like:''wait wat'' lol
I literally finished Aristotle & Dante 15 minutes ago! So. Good.
+Jen Hugs Books JEN OMG YOU"RE READING ALL OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS!!! WHAT DID YOU THINK? TELL ME ALL YOU'RE FEELING (sorry for the caps I'm just really excited lol)
I thinks it's seriously one of the best books I've read about that time in life where you feel like you can't move forward until you figure out who you are and you have no idea who that is. And one of the best portrayals of parenting in YA lit. AND ARI & DANTE. And that scene with Ari and his parents at the their table and the love and I can't even. I can't.
Unpopular opinion: I don't care for John Green really. My favorite book by him was Paper Towns and I thought it was ok at best.
Dominic Harms I agree he's very formulaic
Damien Harris As a person, he seems quite nice and all, but I don't see the big deal about his books...
Willow S exactly. I think he's great, but his books aren't my cup of tea
Damien Harris have you read looking for Alaska? that's my favourite
I have. I actually hated it. I thought every character was extremely annoying and all were aweful people, Pudge in particular. Also the "shocking moment", could be seen from a mile away.
Can you make a list of LGBT+ books that you like/love. I haven't read a series where the main love interest is LGBT+.
christy Conklin I think there are little to none series or a trilogy with lgbt+ characters, the contemporary books typically
The Half Bad Trilogy is wonderful :)
Carry On is a great book
christy Conklin the "half bad" trilogy has the main character who is gay. Although he never claims so, he does have a relationship with another man :)
Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe
I actually did love Divergent but the trilogy just go downhills from there in my opinion. I liked Insurgent but not nearly as much as Divergent and I did not enjoy Allegiant at all. So, from my point of view, you aren't missing anything there. I haven't read the Shatter me series, but I would like to give it a try, despite your unpopular opinion ;) Oh, and I own Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and I am looking forward to read it! Thanks for your video!
You are my new favorite booktuber! Any enemy of Gale is a friend of mine!!!!!
What ?! I LOVE the Shatter Me series!!! It's sooo good and I love that someone finally turns up with the "bad guy" and I love the romance. but anyway you have your own opinion and I share a lot of them with you.
I have a male female platonic relationships in the book I'm writing
Me too. Mostly because I suck in writing romantic scene, and prefer platonic/friendship or family-oriented. If that platonic did ended up as romantic feeling (with some any characters bonding), it's a bonus
Same. There’s a friendship between two characters that I love to write. It’s just so sweet because they have two very different paths yet they somehow always find their way back to being able to spend time together. I just really think it’s a lot more fun to write friendships.
Wow haha I loved Gus & divergent! 😂 I love talking about my unpopular opinions as well! Nice video, it's really respectful but still honest, love it
It's 100% okay to have and express your opinion and not to apologize for it. :)
I love controversial topics too! I love getting my opinion across and debates. I just love to argue in general 😂 and I think the book troupe you were talking about is insta-love
+Annah Insta-love is definitely apart of it but sometimes it even builds up over time and the relationship can never stay platonic and it's just so irritating to see! And yes, debating is lots of fun :D
+A Clockwork Reader I see what you mean, it's like.characters have to fall in love with the first person they interact with (PS just followed you on Instagram!)
Ready? John Greens books are poop but good TH-cam (crash course) is chill
Omg soul sister
@@horse_stan6007 i'm hella late but i think i would agree with. i liked some of his books when i was a teen but if i reread i think i'd probably say wtf lmao
As a crazy Tolkien fan I do get it. The Hobbit started as a sort of bedtime story that Tolkien told to his kids, so it has that episodic feel to it where each chapter is each night's story. Plus, it wasn't originally so connected to Middle Earth since Lord of the Rings hadn't entered Tolkien's mind yet, so the characters aren't as full as they are in the movies where Peter Jackson had the benefit of all the backstory. I totally agree with you about Tauriel. So many fans like me despise her character simply because she wasn't in the books, but I just fell in love with her. She was a good female character who didn't hit you over the head with the "I'm a strong female, you must worship me because I am strong and female" message. The movies aren't perfect, but they're certainly no where near terrible.
Oh my god thank you! I've never felt strongly enough to say it but Augustus Waters didn't do it for me either. He was very forced and it didn't set well with me.
Yes agreed! I understand that his character is intended to be a bit exaggerated and arrogant and I see the purpose that serves, but I don't like him for it.
+A Clockwork Reader He was the reason why I DNFed the book. Gosh, he got on my nerves. I thought he was arrogant and unrealistic.
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I LOVE Augustus Waters. One of my favourite male characters ever😂🤷🏼♀️
Lea lol same. And frankly, I can't think of a single moment when he acted arrogant.
LoveMeSomeSarcasm NOOOOOO
I always apprecaite these kinds of videos because it just shows that everyone is unique and has a voice/opinon on everything. I started following you on twitter as well. I would love your thoughts on some of my work as well. If you are just as big a fan of film as you are books I think you will enjoy it.
+The Lawn Gnome Ohhhh yeah I love films! I'd be happy to check out your channel :)
She loves Rainbow Rowell now!
It's funny to see how things have changed and that you like some contemporary now.
Girl..u just gave major spoilers of many books!
I was so surprised when you said you weren't really a fan of contemporary novels because it seems like so many other booktubers just love them and I guess I don't really get the appeal either. I've tried multiple times to read different contemporary novels that have been recommended to me and I just didn't enjoy them the way other people did. I finally just decided that maybe it wasn't my genre and I've been happier with my reads lately! I loved this video too and agreed with just about everything you said! Instantly subscribed :-)
Oh thank God. I cannot stand Divergent. I read all three books, and I never got into it. Loved the Hunger Games, though.
Honestly it’s Aaron Warner and Kenji that made the shatter me series for me
I also have no interest to read Anna and the French Kiss, but I know that it's about a girl who likes a guy that already has a girlfriend. That much has put me off, and I've heard that there is a lot of girl hate from the main character.
Hannah, even though I only recently came to watching vloggers, I really love your videos, but I also really wish I hadn't watched this one😂 Augustus Waters is from my fav book
Divergent, Anne and The French Kiss books and Rainbow Rowell are books and authors I LOVE so much so it's kinda sad that we don't share those opinions 😢but I understand
Girl I was yelling at my phone screen asking why why whyyyyy. But I understand where you come from and I still appreciate you even though this hurt my soul to hear.
I know I'm super late to this video, but I'm so wounded that you prefer The Hobbit movies to the book!! I'm not mad or offended, just shocked and grieved lol
I hated The Fault In Our Stars. Way too cliche and it was so over hyped, that when I got around to reading the book, I was so disappointed. And Mr. Waters didn't do it for me either. Don't get me wrong, I like a little romance thrown into stories, but it has to have a different plot, other than the romance. One of the reasons I adore The Night Circus. great story, and romance thrown in. :) Don't kill me please.
I Love Brian Kang Too Much For It To Be Healthy I love John green but it’s certainly not his best work. It’s not bad though.
I Love Brian Kang Too Much For It To Be Healthy I AGREE
Kenji and Juliette r a pretty good example of boy and girl friends, but I agree it should be more normalized
Tauriel is just a terrible character, I wouldn't mind her, if she was a side character, but she can't even exist in the Tolkien Universe
Jakob Sandevill I didn't mind Tauriel for the most part. After a while I actually started to like her character. However I have to agree that she way too much screentime. I thought her whole subplot was very recycled and the romance with "the hot dwarf" felt very forced and out of nowhere. It would have been alot better if they kept her as more of a side character and maybe expanded her friendship with Legolas. For a trilogy called "The Hobbit" there was very little hobbit and way too much elves and dwarves.
YES !!! TEAM PEETA:)
I feel like divergent is the ONLY okay book from the series
I dont really like the story on The Fault In Our Stars
i cant believe the shatter me series is here. its my favourite book series im in love with the characters. i dont understand how someone can hate it. the characters are not at all stereotypical. my best friend hates stereotypes and yet she loved this book so i really dont understand this. yes the romance is a big part of this book but it highlights the story and the writing is just amazing.
Midnight Wolf Yes! I'm just starting the series and am currently reading Unravel Me and I'm so excited to read the rest!
Midnight Wolf I am currently half way through unravel me. I enjoy the writing style but I didn't like the ending to shatter me. It felt cheesy. And I don't like that Adam has taken a complete 180 already.
How dare you not to like Gus?!?!? 😂
My great aunt married Ernest Hemingway!!
Chloereads Books Wait really???
I honestly hate Gale so much and I can never grasp why people like him better than peeta... There is no reason I can think of to like him really at all especially with katniss and over peeta so that's probably my biggest notp I have
Bella
Peeta used her
The trope you dislike is actually called "instalove," I believe. :) Great video.
+Jillian S. Thank you!! :D
Hey! I was so relieved to find 1 person finally who does not LOVE divergent. I too didn't like Divergent trilogy that much, especially because I just read Hunger Games a month before that......And I hate it when people compare hunger games with divergent saying it's similar. I actually had very high expectations on Divergent only because of that.
I gonna say I really love this kind of book and this is so cool.
I'm also not a fan of contemporary, but I did really enjoy Anna and the French kiss. I couldn't get into the other companion novels in that series but I'm glad I picked up Anna and the French kiss. it's the exception to my not liking contemporary, so maybe you would like it also :)
Several people have actually said similar things about Anna and the French Kiss so I'm definitely planning on picking it up! :D
I Anna and the French kiss good? I've been wanting to pick it up.
The Nerdy Booktuber Anna and the French kiss is terrible haha. Don’t waste your time on it. There’s a lot of reasons I don’t like it but just watch LilyCReads review on it and u will understand haha
Abby Sutherland it's called an opinion
Well, i don't know what mum would say if i told her "hey,Mom i want a book called Anna and the frensh kiss !"
No need to apologize, I totally get what it's like to have these kind of opinions!
I love "The Sun Also Rises"!
I think the name of the trope you're trying to think of is Insta-love.
I agree about Gale, but really I do not like Katniss. She is oblivious; I do like the books though.
I do have a question of what book tubers mean by contemporary? As a lit prof, I would mean anything written at present. Clearly this is not what you mean though because many of the books you mention are contemporary pop lit by that definition. I have heard this phrase on several people's videos, so thank you for your answer.
+Jayna Lascaibar Contemporary novels (at least in my understanding of the definition I'm not an expert on this so I may be completely off) usually revolve around the life and experiences of teenagers (or adults) most often in respect to their relationships, romantic and otherwise. Often times they can also be stories of self discovery. They take place in modern day and have a real setting and events that could happen in real life. In other words they're not fantasy/science fiction/magical realism/etc.
Some examples of contemporary books would be pretty much anything written by John Green like The Fault in our Stars, Paper Towns, Looking for Alaska. Also Rainbow Rowell, like Fangirl, Landline, Eleanor and Park. All of these for the most part are centered around relationships and/or romance.
Some examples along the self discovery line would be Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe or The Perks of Being a Wallflower. Both of them have relationship/romance aspects within them but the focus more on the characters discovering who they are.
I hope this helps a bit!
+A Clockwork Reader Thanks. After posting the question I did a quick search and found a similar answer. Many University sites were leaning toward my understanding in their course descriptions, but the third entry I found described it as contemporary works that do not also fit into a separate genre (e.g. fantasy, science fiction) also known as contemporary literary realism. I think that what initially raised the question for me was that some other book tubers were using the term most often with what I would consider romance novels, and they were also referring to them as light reads. So I thought maybe the romance novel had been relabeled. What can I say, I am old and out of touch.
Thanks for your wonderful content and shining personality. I can tell you truly love reading. I will continue to watch and enjoy.
Jayna Lascaibar
Peeta used her
Yes! I totally agree with you on the male/female platonic relationships. YA often makes it seem like these things don't exist, or if it does, it's because one of them is LGBTQ or it eventually develops into romantic feelings (usually one sided) anyways, which usually just ruins a really awesome friendship.I also agree with your opinion on The Hobbit and its movies; I have read The Hobbit a couple of times, and both times it was just okay for me. I wasn't getting any of the magical feelings everyone else was; but the movies are awesome, and I was able to connect with each one of the characters so much better and actually care for them and what happened during their adventure.
Anna and the French Kiss is probably the best one out of all the companion novels, but I enjoyed Lola and the Boy Next Door too but not as much. They do seem to follow a similar formula. If you do read one of them (though I don't blame you if you don't because my sister hated it), I loved it Anna and the French Kiss so much. It definitely might be for younger readers if you can't really stand when characters make bad/dumb decisions (which is pretty much the whole book because you're rooting for two characters to get together finally). It was the first book I've ever cried during reading where a character DIDN'T die. It really captures Anna's emotions in a way that makes you feel like you're her. It is one of the few YA books where the romance truly felt genuine. I hope this might convince you enough, though maybe you have already since this video is from 2015.
When you said Gus Waters bothers you, I thought you said FATHERS you.
5:48 thank you! I love being in books! Like Dante’s Inferno where I get stuck in hell! Yay!
I respect you and all that jazz, but the Hobbit... it was upside down.
So agree about The Hobbit. That was the best character add ever.
Thank ypu! It's not that I hate Augustus Waters, I just don't really care for him (or Hazel). Also, I HATED the Divergent trilogy. I have a major problem with it. And the third book, don't even get me started on the third book.
I am not a fan of the Shatter Me series. I wanted more world building and extremely less romance.
+L Smith The lack of world building was one of my biggest issues with the series too!
+L Smith I'm not a huge fan of the romance genre in general. I like a few, but to me many of them just seem to be the same thing. Especially Nora Roberts (apologies if you enjoy her)
I liked the first one, but the other ones didn't really do it for me . . .
L Smith omg... Ik
I just read the first book and I did not like it either. For me it was just like a bad quality crossover of X-Men and The Hunger Games. I loved the cover through.
For the Anna and The French Kiss series, you might like the second book (Lola and the Boy Next Door I think it's called) because it invovles some lgbt themes and I recall you saying in a previous video that you would only reach for a contemporary if you are looking for a lgbt book. They could all be read as standalones, so you wouldn't have to read all the books. Just thought I should let you know :)
I didn’t want Katniss to end up with Peeta when I read the books xD but then I saw the movies and reread Hunger Games and it made more sense. First time I read it, I was KatnissxGale ALL THE WAY!
Edit: Also, not reading Rainbow Rowell is a sin as far as I’m concerned lol She is one of my FAVORITE authors. Her love stories aren’t instalovey, which I find to be a problem with many YA novels nowadays. I hope you get around to reading her some day :)
I agree about Veronica Roth and Augustus Waters, though lol
I recently found your channel and have been loving watching your videos.
Thank you so much! It makes me so happy to hear that ❤️❤️
I fully agree with more platonic male-female relationships in YA! Especially if they are the main characters!
Re: Anna and the French Kiss, I was put off reading that very popular book due to, I read, constant slut-shaming of female characters, demonizing of the love interest's girlfriend. I just can't with that girl-on-girl hate.
The main character that i didn't want them to enf up with
From my POV i just recently read" It ends with us" so obviously every book takes a turn so how the story would leave an impact and that was lily wuth ryle their relationship kind od seemed to much to takr in but i was glad she chose Atlas at the end... i know my answer didn't match the question but u know I've been thinking abt it lot lately.....
girl you are GORGEOUS
I do understand your opinion about The Hobbit, and I completely respect that because I know a lot of people with the same opinion. I, however, must disagree unfortunately. I read The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings long before the Hobbit films came out, so I have a bias towards the book. I still love the Hobbit films, but I find they have a lot of problems, including adding too much extra unnecessary details (it really should not have been more than 2 regular length movies), and trying too hard to connect to the Lord of the Rings film trilogy (my favorite films of all time BTW). There are many things from the films that were not in the book that I loved, like Tauriel, Legolas (
This is crazy but we have EXACTLY the same opinions ! I thought exactly the same thing about every book you mentioned ! It feels good not to be the only one thinking that, especially about the Shatter Me series, Veronica Roth and The Hunger Games
At the book trope question: ROWAN AND AELIN. Rowan x Aelin is one of my favourite ships in the ToG series, but I found myself wishing that they could've stayed friends, because their friendship was hilarious and unpredictable and beautiful. The like/hate they had for each other made me laugh, and when they fell in love, I loved it of course (I am a hopeless romantic) but I still wish that their friendship lasted longer.
i didn't enjoy divergent either but i absolutely adored Carve The Mark duology by Veronica Roth, it's still one of my favorites ♡
100% agree with your opinion on Augustus from TFIOS. I found him extremely pretentious and annoying. Nice to know I'm not alone with this haha!
The trope made me immediately think of Throne of Glass 😅
I kind of looked for the titles in the video beforehand and when i saw the hunger games, i was just like "What! I thought Hannah liked the Hunger Games" so I went back and watched it and then just kinda relaxed again.
the Hobbit book is upside down in this video. I'm in the middle of reading Shatter Me and I don't know how long I'm gonna stick with it. I hope I read at least the first one. I get what she meant about the writing style. It's definitely different.
I agree with you 100% on the instant Romance
If you’re looking for a series with platonic male-female relationships, the Relentless series by Karen Lynch is really good. It’s fantasy and has a badass female protagonist. You might not like certain stereotypes in it, but it’s worth a read.
I feel like the only reason people ship Katniss and Gale is because he's played by Liam Hemsworth who is very good-looking. In the books he's a lot less likable...
YES MORE MALE/FEMALE PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS ALSO STRAIGHT PERSON/GAY PERSON OF SAME SEX PLATONIC RELATIONSHIP PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE
I liked Tauriel too! I just wish they didn't have to force her into a love triangle Dx she's too good for that, man. She deserved better. Evangeline Lilly deserved better!
That trope is my life. Out of all my guy friends only ONE is my actual friend, the others all have crushes on me
I hate that trope in movies, TV Shows, and books. It is so unrealistic. It pisses me off. Thank you for bringing it up. It's everywhere.
Omg I’m the same with the book trope, I have girl best friends and also quite a few who are boys and aren’t gay and so many times in tv shows, books and even in real life people seem to think you can’t be best friends with a straight guy. The other day my mum heard I was hanging out with a dude and asked if it was my boyfriend and I was like “Mum you so realise that if I’m hanging out with a guy it doesn’t mean it’s my boyfriend” 😂
Gale is such a “nice guy”
thank youuuu I dont like Divergent too
I'd say another movie adaptation that was just as good if not better than the book is Silence of the Lambs. The only thing that they took out was the sort of love interest Clarice had for her boss. Otherwise, it was spot on.
I did not like Tauriel that much... though I agree, I did love the movies better than the book... oh Btw have you read The Lord of The Rings Triology? if you haven't, then I hope you would becuase they are good... the movies were great too... I have probably watched them 10 times or so... and I would watch them again... and again...
My answer to question 9 is everything, everything LMAO DONT KILL ME
My jaw dropped when you said Augustus Waters. Lol. It hadn't come out at this point, but I think Love Simon was (mostly) better than the book, but the book was good too, it's like they're completely separate to me. But for me, the book is pretty much always better. Lol.
So listening to your opinion on Augustus Waters made me realise I one hundred percent agree. A lot of girls fangirl over him and while I've never hated him, I was never fangirly over him. I find him a little overrated.
So like, wow, thank you? Haha
I love Augustus 🥺
I also don’t like the divergent series by Veronica Roth but I do like a book called Carve the Mark that is also by her that you should read if you haven’t secondly I also recommend the book the daughter of the pirate king. I’m letting you know this because I really need more recommendations for books to read and I like it were there’s a little bit of romance and lots of action. I also really enjoy the books where it sorta tells the story from both the guys side of the story and the girls. So if anyone has any recommendations please do tell me
Stop apologizing for and trying to justify your opinions, they are beautiful! And if anyone gets offended because you don't think the same way they do, that's their problem and not your responsibility.
It's actually kind of sad that I've never found a guy that I can be FRIENDS friends with without them having an interest in me--- and I don't say that in a self-centred or arrogant way. I just wanna know how Hermione feels like being best friends with Ron and Harry. Love ur videos btw
Upside down The Hobbit LOL!
I got so nervous when you put up the hunger games for the OTP you didn’t like because I thought you were going to say Katniss and Peeta, so thank goodness you said Katniss and Gale was the OTP you didn’t like 💀
watches this video 2 and a half years later and know that some of the opinions are different now
I completely agree with a bunch of your answers. Although I don't like any ship from The Hunger Games for some reason.
I'm also not a fan of contemporaries and rarely reach for them either unless I'm looking for LGBT characters, but I have somehow read a lot of them this year and usually been disappointed. The Anna and the French Kiss series is one that didn't leave me mostly disappointed, however. I think the only thing that made me not love those books is just the fact that I'm not a big fan of contemporaries. I also didn't relate to Anna or Lola as characters. They're fairly quick reads if you do decide to check them out.
+Unicorn Hunter Books Yeah I think the big thing for me with contemporaries is that I tend not to relate to the characters and I don't really know why that is. But yeah definitely if they have LGBTQ main characters, I'm far more likely to pick them up.
Have you read Tell Me Again How a Crush Should Feel? It's an LGBT contemporary, and the only contemporary that made it onto my favorites list.
Unicorn Hunter Books No, I've never even heard of it! But thank you for the rec, I'll definitely check that one out. I'm always looking for more LGBT books because I plan on doing a whole video on my favorite LGBT reads once I've read a decent amount, so thank you!!
I didn't like Augustus that much too!! And I love the Shatter Me series, but I'd really love to know your thoughts! :)
I might just re-film my review because I really do want to share my thoughts on it!
I’m going to have a hopefully awesome platonic relationship between my male main character and my main female character in the book I’m gonna be starting. My female character is a lesbian and is in a relationship, and they’re pretty much gonna be my main males OTP 😂. And I thought about the opening their friendship to my hopefully future readers with: “*My main males name* believes that everyone has different kinds of soulmates. And when it comes to best friends, *my main males name* soulmate is *my main females name*.” but I’m hoping that’s not cliche 😊❤️. Ugh, I kept messing my comment up 😂😂.
I feel sad that she doesnt like the shatter me series but i understand.
I don't know if Love Triangle is a trope but man do I hate it. The quickest way to repel me from a book is to tell me it has a love triangle. Its like choose one and fucking move on already stop stringing one of them along. Love triangles are the reason I stopped reading the vampire diaries, won't read the infernal devices series or any other popular books or series that have a love triangle
I absolutely dislike The Fault In Our Stars. It was predictable and the man character used her promble to be a mean person to everyone
You are absolutely allowed to think that! For me personally, The Fault in Our Stars was my favorite book (until I branched out a bit more 😉) . Although I do disagree with the statement about the protagonist. She can come off as snarky as times, but I don't think its because of her "problem". She is just doesn't sugar coat life in the slightest. She tends to be honest but in almost a gruesome way. But I totally understand why you think that. ☺
Madison Smith tbh everyone has their own opinion, for me, I couldn’t get past the first chapter of the book and found it difficult to get though the film, I didn’t rlly understand how people found it so emotional because it’s not rlly my kind of thing but I do understand, a lot of my friends liked it!
Personally I liked Katniss with Peeta, but I'm curious to know, why didn't you like Gale and his relationship with Katniss?
Im the same with contemporary! I haven't even read any John Green books :(
I love John Green he's my favorite contemporary writer :)
Great video .i get it people have different opinion and that's what make us unique
+monica book lover I'm glad to see how open some people can be. I am rather unique when it comes to the book community: I couldn't care less for Harry Potter or The Hunger Games. I even broke the #1 rule: I watched the movies first.
Gus?! What!
I hated the fault in our stars so much!!! It was so boring I’m surprised I didn’t DNF it
Wow I'm surprised you didn't love the Hobbit! But I would guess our opinions differ because I read the book quite a few times long before the films came out whereas you saw the films then read the book. That's kind of interesting to think about lol. Have you read the Lord of the Rings trilogy yet?
Thank you thank you thank you. I've been saying forever that male and female characters don't have enough French of interaction.