I accidentally got a .223 Wylde gun for my first AR. Didn't know the difference then, but was pleased to learn later that I could use .223 and 5.56 in it.
Same lol I went all out and bought an F1 for my first AR. And no joke on my first range trip I went to an indoor range where they want to inspect the guns you are shooting before you go out onto the range. The guy inspects my rifle, Then I asked to buy a couple boxes of .556 and the guy goes "For this rifle? But it's chambered in .223 Wylde. We don't sell any of that here." It ended up being kind of cool because I was a total noob at the time but I was given an opportunity to school the guy who I assumed knew more than I did.
I was about to get the .556 barrel when I was building my 1st AR until the Guy on the Gun Store recommends me the .223 Wylde they said its better than .556 barrel and shoots more accurate with the .556
I built an AR with a 20” barrel, chambered in .223 Wylde. I chose this chambering because, when I was reading specs at the time, it was claimed to have accuracy advantages over 5.56 & was capable of using either 5.56 or .223 REM.
The ability to put a round where you intend to put it renders 99.9% of the "what caliber is best" arguments moot in my experience. Putting a round through an eye socket will start a fine case of rigor mortis regardless of caliber...99.9% of the time anyway.
When researching my first AR-15 build, I came across all the varied opinions regarding the 5.56, .223 and .223 Wylde. The best and funniest reason I came across for .223 Wylde was "If the whole world goes to sh*t and you have to steal your ammo off the back of a Humvee, you better be able to shoot 5.56"
First ar-15 came from PSA with a .223 wylde barrel. It's 18" stainless steel and shoots sub moa at 100 yards. I'm in love with it. I'm sticking with .223 wylde for both rounds
It's got a better throat than 5.56, I've never had the trash from varmit rounds fail to cycle like I have with many 5.56 guns. Pretty sure forward assist was made to make you get out the hammer after shooting 223 varm.
@@grimesresurrection9357 I can't speak to his model, but an MOA or "Minute of Angle" is an inch of deviation at 100 meters. So Sub MOA rifle shoots groups tighter than an inch at 100m. I hope this helps.
Dude.. my DD with a government profile gets 3/4 moa from 1-200 yards with a dogshit trigger and eottech and magnifier (I turn it down so the dot is super small but it's still not ideal for accuracy) out of fiocchi m855 (good ammo but certainly not match. My point is you don't necessarily need a wylde barrel if accuracy is your thing.. Right now tss has a DD V7 for 1400... that's a damn solid riffle and I'd bet it would get the same accuracy as mine.. with that kind of accuracy I don't see a reason for a wylde.. it's not likely to shoot better than mine for accuracy imo
@@rogerbussiii Not everyone can afford that DD. PSA and BCA make MOA rifles at a quarter of the cost. Damn nice rifle these days too. Great options if you don't have $$$$
I remember arguing with a gun store owner regarding the chambering of 223 Wylde barrel. I requested a 223 Wylde barrel as I was building a AR for my father and he ordered a 223 Remington barrel. I told him a 223 Wylde chambering allows me to shoot both 223/5.56 more accurately. He went through the store like an idiot pointing at every AR15 saying they’re all 223 Wylde. I called the dealer that the owner bought the barrel from and asked them if they sent him a 223 Wylde barrel and just didn’t mark it his response was they don’t offer a 223 Wylde. I told him this store owner was about to label his barrel as a 223 Wylde. Even the other sales reps knew I was correct but refused to correct the owner. I went elsewhere and stopped buying anything there after buying like 20 firearms there over the years. I just no longer trusted him and what he would do to make a sell which he didn’t have to with me as I always went there knowing what I wanted. It was sad because I liked the guy and store just was too many red flags over there years and this was the last straw for me. Sometimes people walk into your store prepared and as a owner should recognize the difference with customers familiar with firearms vs newbies. Always do your research was my long winded point.
When I built my first AR, I noticed I had a 223 Wylde barrel when I wanted a 556 barrel. So i went back to the shop and asked if I could switch, that’s when I learned the difference. I’m very pleased with my 223 wylde barrel and more shooters should know about it!
Bought a .223 Wylde from Midwest Industries 2 years ago. Love it. I've fed it everything in all Bullet wts and chamberings. 1:8 twist. Always runs and always accurate. Never looked back!
When piecing together an AR-15 and you start looking at uppers, 223 Wylde comes up a lot. I had to research that one on my own and a google search helped me a lot. I like this video so more folks will figure it out. I was pleased with my build and it was a Frankenstein for sure, but shooting it is so much fun! Thanks CF!
"If it don't eat steel, it don't deserve brass"... This is my motto for ALL of my firearms! From my MC1SC to my 1911, to my custom AR (.223 wylde) Cheap is easy, and easy is good, as long as it works!
@@m118lr Stop repeating that completely busted myth. Plenty of videos out there of people doing torture tests. The only difference is steel is "dirtier" because it doesn't expand like brass.
I have seen two AR 15's that had jammed failures to eject with steel cased ammo. The cases had to be driven out with a rod in each case. I saw another AR 15 where the steel cased ammo had a feeding jam. It couldn't be seated with the forward assist and couldn't be extracted with the charging handle. The charging handle had to be hammered back to finally extract the ammo. I won't use steel cased ammo.
From the Ruger Mini-14 manual: The Mini-14 Rifle is designed to use either standardized U.S. military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice. The barrel receiver is stamped .223, but the manual says it shoots both, safely.
My first AR was a build with a friend of mine who knew a whole lot about them, and he recommended the Wylde chambering for that reason, so that I could shoot either one. I understood there was a difference, and I knew the rules for 5.56 versus .223 in other rifles, and my wife had a 5.56. I recognized right off that it really opens up the variety of ammo that I can shoot in terms of what I want to do with it at the time. It took me a while to understand what the actual chambering difference was, and how it functions, but I have had very good accuracy with both .223 and 5.56. And I like it because I can pick which one’s cheaper :-)
I ran several hundred 5.56s through my 183-series Ruger Mini-14 GB. The gas block enclosure eventually developed a partial crack, but no significant barrel erosion or any other damage that I could find. My first AR build was with a 20-inch .223 Wylde barrel. It does not seem to be any less accurate than my friends' "store-bought" 5.56s. I liked it so much that my second AR build, a pistol with a 10-inch barrel, was also a .223 Wylde.
I just picked up a 10.5 inch upper and I absolutely love it!! Just put a red dot, Laser and light on it. All add-ons are low profile and small. Sighted in at 50 yards for the red dot and 25 yards with the laser. This rifle is a beast! Using for home defense
Have two M1a that are so fun to shoot, by brother has eight different 556 rifles that he put together interested though I shot m16 in my military career for 22 years I knew everything about different firearms, good to know you guys actually taught me something thank you you guys rock
I shot ARs for almost 2 decades before this issue came to my attention. I always shot 5.56 and .223 in all my ARs, never thought about it. Never had an issue. Been shooting (my own) ARs since 1996.
That's why I love my DPMS Oracle (chambered in 556 NATO with a 1/9 twist), since it was designed to shoot steel cased as well as brass so i run all types of ammo through my AR. Say what you want about DPMS but I love mine
Finally somebody knows what the h*** are f****** talking about besides this BS that the others try to run up yeah Military uses different method of pressure testing then Sammy the bullets are all loaded to the same length as just how the pressure is tested you don't buy 223 reload and dice and 556 reloading dies everything is the same and they have to be loaded to Sammy specs and the run through the same magazine so they're loaded to the same length to make the Sammy specs Too many keyboard Professionals that don't know just spit out what they hear It is true that the 556 chamber has a deeper throat throat then the 223 But you can still shoot the 556 and the 223 chamber as long as you aint cramming it into the rafflings When you do that it will build pressures but you're factory ammo is all loaded to the same overall length so you won't have trouble with that
If it's 55gr in either 223 or 556, send it.... bullet base to ogive leaves plenty of freebore. I have yet to come across a manufacturer that has a 55gr bullet out far enough to cause pressure issues.
Good info. I've been asked this question quite a few times also. This is pretty much exactly how I explain it. Most of my AR's are chambered in 5.56mm. I do have a couple MK 12-ish inspired (inspired by the MK12, but in no way an actual clone) rifle builds with 18" .223 Wylde chambering. Both are sub MOA easily.
My first AR was chambered in 5.56 Nato. Couple years later discover the wylde and yes at the end has alot to do with the shooter. I am.pleased with both . Great performance from both chambers . I like the guys honesty. I buy cheap ammo. If it's cheap. That's what in going to shoot as far as range wise
Thanks for the clarification! Im looking at my first firearm to buy up here in Canada and it is chambered in .223 wylde. So thank you for all the info on it. Glad to here i can use 5.56 in it
I love my wylds, all mine are wylds!!! It is a no brainer for me being a 13 years service member as a mariand army scout!!! The fact you can use both ammo in it is great!!
Im glad i found this video cuz my AR is .223 Wylde 1:9 twist, and i never knew what "Wylde" referred to. I had assumed i couldnt shoot 5.56 in my AR, but now i know its safe to shoot both.
You guys are awesome. Thank you for explaining the differences. My next AR is going to be the 223 Wylde. And maybe in a couple of years when I can afford it the Barrett 50 cal lol
The biggest difference is the 5.56 CAN have a longer, heavier bullet whereas the ogive is more forward than a standard .223 round. Because of this difference the bullet of the .556 requires a longer throat to accommodate this. The .223 typically has a shorter throat which means running a .556 in the shorter throat gun can cause the bullet to jam into the lands and drive pressures up even higher. Additionally, the .556 has a slightly narrower shoulder than a .223 for improved feeding in military guns. Not necessarily a big deal but the throat is a big consideration.
You guys have helped me alot with my first AR build. I have an Anderson. Doesn't have an adjustable gas block and I just figured out that the seal from the block to the gas tube isn't fully sealed. So I will be getting an adjustable block and new barrel. Thank you again.
3/22/24 Thank you for the video, way too much confusing info on the internet. I bought a complete upper in .223 Wylde thinking I can only use .223 caliber. Happy to find out I was wrong. Thanks, Tom
Probably the best 10 of my day. I have wondered about this for a while and could not find an answer stated as well as you all just did it. Thank you for this.
I got a .223 Wylde upper and it’s treated me very well I’ve run .223 and 5.56 and I haven’t had any problem. Both run great I had some gas issues but that was on my end when I built it the gas tap wasn’t right.
@@iddkirdk3577 so realistically it depends on what you plan to hunt .223 has less powder technically but the ballistics of moth rounds are pretty similar coming out of that barrel. Sorry it took a while i have not been paying attention
I bought a used Mini 14 Ranch Rifle marked 223 and contacted Ruger and asked if it was safe to run 5.56 They emailed me back and said It was rated for 5.56 and I was safe to use it.
For my builds I always just go for the best quality barrel for the purpose of the rifle before I worry about the chambering. 18" mk12 clone -> stainless steel 223 Wylde usually gets better accuracy. M16A2 clone -> CHF 5.56 Nato is fine. HK416/M27 clone -> 16" Heavy barrel 5.56 Nato with a superlative arms piston system. 223 Wylde is great and 5.56 Nato is great. Both shoot both .223/5.56
@@pennywisdom9435 Nothing was complicated about a 556 chamber. It'll run both just fine. And while a 223 Wydle chamber will run both is does have faster throat errosion.
Both my ARs (RRA A2 Standard, and midis are Wylde. Great accuracy as I use my A2 for 200/300 yard competition. Shot the middie a few weeks ago (for the first time in years). Sub MOA 3-shot group at 200 - iron sights (I stopped at 3 shots to check POI because shadows were hiding the holes). Was using CM-93. In fairness, when the sun got over the trees my next group opened up. No biggie. Had fun ringing the 11” steel plate at 300 afterwards.
I’ve only seen a couple of problems from running 556 in a 223 but only with low quality rifles and even then, only when putting a lot of rounds downrange in a relatively short period of time. And never the catastrophic failure that I’ve heard about, it was simply excessive wear on the chamber. And that might have just been the poor quality of the rifles.
When I was looking for my AR I didn’t know that wylde was a chamber. I found out quickly enough with a little research. At first I was thinking that sounds too specific and finding ammo may be difficult. Now that I have it because of the versatility of Wylde ammo selection is much wider. Im with Matt. I look for the cheap rounds.
223 Wylde is a great, accurate chambering. Had an early Bushmaster with 223 Rem chamber that would slam fire with 556 (not every time) because of the floating firing pin of the AR system. Barrel swap followed promptly.
Someone told me the 5.56 was a frogs hair larger than the 223 and thats what made the interchange dangerous. Seriously, thank you for educating me today.
I went with a Wylde for my longer-range set-up. I load to .223 specs (Mostly shooting 75gr BTHP) to go for 1MOA (ish) accuracy, but I like that I can toss in some XM855 without issue.
I have a 20” 223 Wylde topped with a vortex 4-12 scope. Can hunt smaller game with a 62-67 grain 223 round. Or keep the redcoats uncomfortable at a distance with some 55 grain 5.56 rounds.
Built my CA complaint Featureless around Odin Works 223 Wylde Barrel. Odin promises a 1moa at 100meters, and I found that to be an accurate statement. I'm overall giddy as a school girl on prom night with my build
My brother has a savage axis 223 that he has only ran 556 thru about 1100rds now he said it will never blow up from firing 556 thru it so far he has been right he was being a jack a** to prove a point
I like that the .223 Wylde chamber can eat both, civilian and NATO ammo, reliably accurately, and safely. No worries about accidentally feeding NATO 5.56 into a .223 Rem chamber, when you have a .223 Wylde chamber. This is also why I use a Criterion M118 chamber on "large frame" AR builds. With the M118 chamber, .308 Win, and 7.62x51 NATO are good to send. Another advantage to both the .223 Wylde, and M118 chambers are if a SHTF situation occurs, it opens up the options for hunting down more ammo, when things get harder to acquire.
Something I didn't hear you mention was ammo availability. 223 is significantly more expensive and less common compared to 556. My local store has 556 bulk all day but not many options for loads. 223 has more options like hollow points. But it's about twice the price as 556
Bought .223 wylde 1:9. Built for 55g. Runs wonderful. Just as good as my beater 10.5 5.56 bear creek tho. Only downside to my nice expensive .223 wylde is it will not run steal.
My home brew guns a 10.5 and an 18 are both 223 Wylde,1 in 7 and 1 in 8 respectively. Works fine, lasts a long time, don’t collect dust and don’t rust. Both stainless steel. It’s all about fun, till it’s not. See you later.
I prefer a 5.56 chambering it has been the most reliable out of the 3 chamberings from my personal experience and the pressure difference between 5.56 and .223 is far under the built in saftey factor of the barrel
The Wylde chamber is actually larger than the 5.56 in every dimension except for the freebore diameter which aligns the bullet on the bore and that is what improves accuracy.
I love my 223 wylde barrel. It's a 1/8 twist 18in barrel and I reload 75 grain 223 ammunition for it and it is a sub moa at 100, and I'm getting around 1 1/2in at 200yrds
In my country, guns are usually produced in caliber 223 Rem. and is also intended for use with 5.56x45 NATO ammunition. Commonly sold AR15 M4s are 223 REM with mil spec. As a civilian I can only buy a 223 Remington anyway. 556 I have never seen anyone selling it. It is mostly military ammunition. Any armor-piercing or extra-effective ammunition is automatically classified as military material and may not be sold on the civilian market.
I love both . Criterion and Centurion are my favorites. One is 223W and other is 556n . For practical accuracy I can't tell a difference. I'm also not a precision shooter . I have heard that Criterion barrels are one of the most accurate C.L. Barrels . Colt SOCOM I think is the most accurate C.L. 556 barrel .
I have multiple AR rifles in various makes and lengths. All are chambered in 5.56 except for an early model LVOA-S that's chambered in .223 Wylde. It outshoots all of my other ARs in accuracy.
Get a Compass Lake Engineering chambered/throated barrel. . It supports single loading of VLD’s for great results at Long Range as well as best results with .223 or 5.56. And remember handloading makes some of this stuff moot.
I have 223 wylde 24 " target crown bull barrel. Also have a non wylde 223 556 16" barrel. The bull is more accurate then the pencil barrel. Hand load them both pencil barrel whip was bad but fixed that good to go now for cqb rifle.
So okay it took the whole show to say: you can shoot 223 in 5.56, but not vise versus, but The Wild dies Both!!! Lol But you guys did a great job breaking it down.
I admit , first time I saw 223 wylde I passed buying it because i didnt want some wierd non standard cartridge. Much later found oit it was a chamber that handled both 556 and 223. Have decided to make next rifle 223 wylde.
I got a M&P 15 which is 5.56, i put a aimpoint PRO on it. My second AR is a 223 wylde which i put a strike eagle on it. At 25-200 yrds they shoot the same. At 500+ i can see the difference. Compared to my AK i wish there was an accuracy boost to 7.62x39.
When it comes to failures you should do something on people using reloads. I had to give medical attention yesterday to a guy who blew his bolt action up took a chunck out of his forehead and check. Had he not had a scope he might of lost an eye judging the trajectory of the stock splinters and his wounds.
Just out of curiosity, what type of wound care did you administer? All I carry on me is a tourniquet but I want to start carrying some additional medical items.
Really great video guys, great information. As someone building their first AR this was all information that I have been researching already (wish this video had come up earlier.) Maybe it just a difference in time that the information is more readily available, but I do find it odd how many questions you get looking for 223 cartridges. In my very initial searches it became very immediately clear what the chambering meant
I run a 18" barrel with 223 wylde chamber and exclusively shoot 77gr 5.56. I have shot this gun out to 1000 yards. Only chamber I ever see myself using.
I'd like to see an on the range side by side 5.56 vs .223 wylde comparison. Similar guns with the chamber being the only difference to show the actual difference in accuracy. I dont think most average shooters like myself would notice the difference.
You are probably right, that a 223 fired out of a 556, versus out of a 223 wylde, will probably be more limited by the person behind the trigger than anything else. But why poo poo it if it offers an edge? And I have personally noticed a difference between my 223W and my wife’s 556, even though it’s not that much. The twist rate and bullet weight I think probably make as much difference. But, I’m glad to have it. Every little edge helps
Love my first build in .223 Wlyde. Frankenstein as all hell it is lol 😆. Started with the "dreaded MAG Tactial" stripped lowers, I've never had any problems with my lower. No Catastrophic failures yet lol..
...UNLESS the choice is personal. In other words, just because MOST AR’s can “eat” steel, doesn’t mean a lot of shooters want to FEED ‘em steel when brass is known to NOT be as harsh on extractors, etc. That controversy between brass and steel EXISTS for a reason: there’s a hint of truth to it. IF brass is LESS harsh on the BCG and components..WHY feed steel UNLESS it’s just for economical reasons. If it’s LONGEVITY you’re after..BRASS ammo will win EVERY time.
The amount of money saved by shooting JUST STEEL over the course of life for a barrel and bcg would be enough to buy multiple barrels and bcgs for replacements. Reloads and cleanliness are the only reasons.
@@m118lr steel in ammo is 1.1 on the hardness scale. Brass is 1.0. Hardly a difference but huge in price. $200 cheaper per the thousand right now. I could buy a new gun and barrrel after 10,000 rounds of steel
Personally I started off on a .223 Wylde barrel and loved being able to shoot whatever I found, but personally these days I enjoy 5.56 barrels more. Usually much cheaper, can with some exemptions be seen as more durable, and most importantly for me, delivers sub moa accuracy with 5.56, which for no reason at all is my caliber of choice. And honestly with accuracy like that it’s a good way to know if I miss its purely my fault, and I only demand practical accuracy. Now if I was building an SPR or something of the like .223 wylde all day. But I just want a rugged rifle that can shoot either round, and will go through the same hole with m855.
I have a .223 wylde 20" 1:7 Premium series DMR barrel from Ballistic Advantage. It shoots sub moa with match grade 5.56 AND 223 Rem and really loves the 65-77 grain stuff. The whole "specialized" argument is moot. More and more manufacturers are chambering in Wylde for that very reason.
Of course they are. It simplifies their process. So much so you will see 556 marked barrels pass a Wylde gauge but fail on a 556 gauge. The down side is the Wylde has more throat errosion than a 556.
@@MatteoThreeEightyFive I would be curious as to why the Wylde chambering would suffer more than the 5.56, it's basically and inbetween in terms of throat lead between a .223 and a 5.56. Why wouldn't standard .223 then suffer even more from the same issue? Or are we talking when only firing 5.56 loads through said chamber? This is genuine curioosity, no sarcasm.
@@OddBallPerformance For the very reason you mention. Its a hybrid chamber with less leade or free bore than a 556 chamber. And yes a 223 Rem chamber would suffer this even more because it has less than the Wylde chamber. And this occurs whether you are shooting 556 or 223. Although using 556 will exacerbate the issue. But the short of it is when there is less free bore, then at the moment the bullet has jumped into the rifling. Thus slowing down due to friction. The reduced chamber area allows the gases to get to higher pressures and temps because of that delay, resulting in a plasma cutting effect.
I use .223 Wylde exclusively in all my builds. But they are getting more difficult to come by and more expensive now. You will have more luck finding a complete upper assembly then you will finding the barrel alone right now. The Wylde barrel is available in many lengths. Even pistol barrels.
That’s a fact. When I bought my 223W about three years ago, I think I paid 300 for it. Now, slightly lower quality version of the same is 2-1/2 times that price from the same manufacturer.
Luckily my first AR I bought was 223 wylde. I did days and days of constant research. I now own 2 ARs, one with 223 wylde and my other is with a 556 barrel.
I have a 223 bolt action and fired a 556 It took a cleaning rod to tap the empty case out I'm guessing just a hair too much expansion tightened it to STUCK!
223 Wylde all the way in this ammogeddon...gotta pick up whatever you can find. As much as I hate buying different grain ammo, I've been picking up everything between 55 to 62/68 grain in either 223 or 556
I used to be a C3 dealer and fired everything 556, 223 brass case all the time I would let anyone shoot it as long as they provided ammo, the only thing I had trouble with was aluminum it did not like it it would pull the primer out and dump all the powder in the receiver, 7 “ barrel nice light show
I have a mini 14 from the '80s, all I've ever used was military ammo and never had a problem. Actually seems more accurate, don't know what it does to the harmonics.
When I first started shooting a friend brought out a ar15 varmint platform in 223. We tried to put 556 through it and on the 3rd round it jammed so hard it had to go to the smithy to have the brass removed from the chamber.
gavintoobe points out that measuring techniques yield different results though measuring equivalent loads. It seems he points out that both measure basically the same if the same measuring technique is used. Your thoughts?
"You guys give away too many Barretts" - said nobody EVER!
Lol
I love your vids
Does the barrett take glock mags?
How effective is .223 Wylde
@@Rya17392 very, you might not even notice any change.
I accidentally got a .223 Wylde gun for my first AR. Didn't know the difference then, but was pleased to learn later that I could use .223 and 5.56 in it.
Same lol I went all out and bought an F1 for my first AR. And no joke on my first range trip I went to an indoor range where they want to inspect the guns you are shooting before you go out onto the range. The guy inspects my rifle, Then I asked to buy a couple boxes of .556 and the guy goes "For this rifle? But it's chambered in .223 Wylde. We don't sell any of that here."
It ended up being kind of cool because I was a total noob at the time but I was given an opportunity to school the guy who I assumed knew more than I did.
I was about to get the .556 barrel when I was building my 1st AR until the Guy on the Gun Store recommends me the .223 Wylde they said its better than .556 barrel and shoots more accurate with the .556
This was almost me also
I built an AR with a 20” barrel, chambered in .223 Wylde.
I chose this chambering because, when I was reading specs at the time, it was claimed to have accuracy advantages over 5.56 & was capable of using either 5.56 or .223 REM.
The ability to put a round where you intend to put it renders 99.9% of the "what caliber is best" arguments moot in my experience. Putting a round through an eye socket will start a fine case of rigor mortis regardless of caliber...99.9% of the time anyway.
When researching my first AR-15 build, I came across all the varied opinions regarding the 5.56, .223 and .223 Wylde. The best and funniest reason I came across for .223 Wylde was "If the whole world goes to sh*t and you have to steal your ammo off the back of a Humvee, you better be able to shoot 5.56"
My thoughts too...
Me too. Better go with 556
Reality says if you can steal ammo, you can likely snag a rifle as well?
Exactly!
@@Bens_Channel47 Why wouldn't you want a 223 Wylde chamber?
First ar-15 came from PSA with a .223 wylde barrel. It's 18" stainless steel and shoots sub moa at 100 yards. I'm in love with it. I'm sticking with .223 wylde for both rounds
It's got a better throat than 5.56, I've never had the trash from varmit rounds fail to cycle like I have with many 5.56 guns. Pretty sure forward assist was made to make you get out the hammer after shooting 223 varm.
Which model? What exactly is Sub-MOA
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I can't speak to his model, but an MOA or "Minute of Angle" is an inch of deviation at 100 meters. So Sub MOA rifle shoots groups tighter than an inch at 100m. I hope this helps.
Dude.. my DD with a government profile gets 3/4 moa from 1-200 yards with a dogshit trigger and eottech and magnifier (I turn it down so the dot is super small but it's still not ideal for accuracy) out of fiocchi m855 (good ammo but certainly not match.
My point is you don't necessarily need a wylde barrel if accuracy is your thing..
Right now tss has a DD V7 for 1400... that's a damn solid riffle and I'd bet it would get the same accuracy as mine.. with that kind of accuracy I don't see a reason for a wylde.. it's not likely to shoot better than mine for accuracy imo
@@rogerbussiii Not everyone can afford that DD. PSA and BCA make MOA rifles at a quarter of the cost. Damn nice rifle these days too. Great options if you don't have $$$$
I remember arguing with a gun store owner regarding the chambering of 223 Wylde barrel. I requested a 223 Wylde barrel as I was building a AR for my father and he ordered a 223 Remington barrel. I told him a 223 Wylde chambering allows me to shoot both 223/5.56 more accurately. He went through the store like an idiot pointing at every AR15 saying they’re all 223 Wylde. I called the dealer that the owner bought the barrel from and asked them if they sent him a 223 Wylde barrel and just didn’t mark it his response was they don’t offer a 223 Wylde. I told him this store owner was about to label his barrel as a 223 Wylde. Even the other sales reps knew I was correct but refused to correct the owner. I went elsewhere and stopped buying anything there after buying like 20 firearms there over the years. I just no longer trusted him and what he would do to make a sell which he didn’t have to with me as I always went there knowing what I wanted. It was sad because I liked the guy and store just was too many red flags over there years and this was the last straw for me. Sometimes people walk into your store prepared and as a owner should recognize the difference with customers familiar with firearms vs newbies. Always do your research was my long winded point.
Lol.
That stinks
Sounds like wild bills in Elk Grove,ca
@@DAMIONMCCHEEKZ seriously tho!!!!
Dealing with a store owner who thinks he knows everything can be dangerous.
When I built my first AR, I noticed I had a 223 Wylde barrel when I wanted a 556 barrel. So i went back to the shop and asked if I could switch, that’s when I learned the difference. I’m very pleased with my 223 wylde barrel and more shooters should know about it!
What's the difference 🤔 can u shoot 556 through it safely?
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Bought a .223 Wylde from Midwest Industries 2 years ago. Love it. I've fed it everything in all Bullet wts and chamberings. 1:8 twist. Always runs and always accurate. Never looked back!
When piecing together an AR-15 and you start looking at uppers, 223 Wylde comes up a lot. I had to research that one on my own and a google search helped me a lot. I like this video so more folks will figure it out. I was pleased with my build and it was a Frankenstein for sure, but shooting it is so much fun! Thanks CF!
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"If it don't eat steel, it don't deserve brass"... This is my motto for ALL of my firearms! From my MC1SC to my 1911, to my custom AR (.223 wylde) Cheap is easy, and easy is good, as long as it works!
...yeah, ok. As long as WEAR and TEAR doesn’t matter. KEEP spares parts handy! It’s also harsher on your chamber or throat.
@@m118lr Stop repeating that completely busted myth. Plenty of videos out there of people doing torture tests. The only difference is steel is "dirtier" because it doesn't expand like brass.
@@m118lr Get a chrome lined barrel and it should be fine.
@@cwt8457 gotten more split cases with steel case ammo that have jammed high end firearms, cheap is not always good.
I have seen two AR 15's that had jammed failures to eject with steel cased ammo. The cases had to be driven out with a rod in each case. I saw another AR 15 where the steel cased ammo had a feeding jam. It couldn't be seated with the forward assist and couldn't be extracted with the charging handle. The charging handle had to be hammered back to finally extract the ammo. I won't use steel cased ammo.
From the Ruger Mini-14 manual: The Mini-14 Rifle is designed to use either standardized U.S.
military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice.
The barrel receiver is stamped .223, but the manual says it shoots both, safely.
my mini receiver is stamped 5.56. there are different variations of ruger's mini 14.
my Mini 14 is the same .223 shoots either , its in the manual I believe .
My first AR was a build with a friend of mine who knew a whole lot about them, and he recommended the Wylde chambering for that reason, so that I could shoot either one. I understood there was a difference, and I knew the rules for 5.56 versus .223 in other rifles, and my wife had a 5.56. I recognized right off that it really opens up the variety of ammo that I can shoot in terms of what I want to do with it at the time. It took me a while to understand what the actual chambering difference was, and how it functions, but I have had very good accuracy with both .223 and 5.56. And I like it because I can pick which one’s cheaper :-)
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556 shoots 223
I ran several hundred 5.56s through my 183-series Ruger Mini-14 GB. The gas block enclosure eventually developed a partial crack, but no significant barrel erosion or any other damage that I could find.
My first AR build was with a 20-inch .223 Wylde barrel. It does not seem to be any less accurate than my friends' "store-bought" 5.56s. I liked it so much that my second AR build, a pistol with a 10-inch barrel, was also a .223 Wylde.
I just picked up a 10.5 inch upper and I absolutely love it!! Just put a red dot, Laser and light on it. All add-ons are low profile and small. Sighted in at 50 yards for the red dot and 25 yards with the laser.
This rifle is a beast! Using for home defense
You do know it’s chambered in 5.56, don’t you?
Have two M1a that are so fun to shoot, by brother has eight different 556 rifles that he put together interested though I shot m16 in my military career for 22 years I knew everything about different firearms, good to know you guys actually taught me something thank you you guys rock
I shot ARs for almost 2 decades before this issue came to my attention. I always shot 5.56 and .223 in all my ARs, never thought about it. Never had an issue. Been shooting (my own) ARs since 1996.
That's why I love my DPMS Oracle (chambered in 556 NATO with a 1/9 twist), since it was designed to shoot steel cased as well as brass so i run all types of ammo through my AR. Say what you want about DPMS but I love mine
They use different methods of testing the pressure on 556 and 223. When they use the same exact methods, they both take the same pressure.
Finally somebody knows what the h*** are f****** talking about besides this BS that the others try to run up yeah Military uses different method of pressure testing then Sammy the bullets are all loaded to the same length as just how the pressure is tested you don't buy 223 reload and dice and 556 reloading dies everything is the same and they have to be loaded to Sammy specs and the run through the same magazine so they're loaded to the same length to make the Sammy specs Too many keyboard Professionals that don't know just spit out what they hear It is true that the 556 chamber has a deeper throat throat then the 223 But you can still shoot the 556 and the 223 chamber as long as you aint cramming it into the rafflings When you do that it will build pressures but you're factory ammo is all loaded to the same overall length so you won't have trouble with that
If it's 55gr in either 223 or 556, send it.... bullet base to ogive leaves plenty of freebore. I have yet to come across a manufacturer that has a 55gr bullet out far enough to cause pressure issues.
Good info. I've been asked this question quite a few times also. This is pretty much exactly how I explain it. Most of my AR's are chambered in 5.56mm. I do have a couple MK 12-ish inspired (inspired by the MK12, but in no way an actual clone) rifle builds with 18" .223 Wylde chambering. Both are sub MOA easily.
My first AR was chambered in 5.56 Nato.
Couple years later discover the wylde and yes at the end has alot to do with the shooter. I am.pleased with both . Great performance from both chambers .
I like the guys honesty.
I buy cheap ammo. If it's cheap. That's what in going to shoot as far as range wise
.223 Wylde was invented to enhance the accuracy using 5.56 ammunition in Camp Perry competition, not to dispel confusion.
Thanks for the clarification! Im looking at my first firearm to buy up here in Canada and it is chambered in .223 wylde. So thank you for all the info on it. Glad to here i can use 5.56 in it
I love my wylds, all mine are wylds!!! It is a no brainer for me being a 13 years service member as a mariand army scout!!! The fact you can use both ammo in it is great!!
Sounds pretty Wylde man!
You can use both in any barrel chambered in 5.56
7.62x39
Building my first and went with a Rosco .223 Wylde barrel. Really looking forward to see how it works out. Thanks for the video guys!
Im glad i found this video cuz my AR is .223 Wylde 1:9 twist, and i never knew what "Wylde" referred to. I had assumed i couldnt shoot 5.56 in my AR, but now i know its safe to shoot both.
You guys are awesome. Thank you for explaining the differences. My next AR is going to be the 223 Wylde. And maybe in a couple of years when I can afford it the Barrett 50 cal lol
The biggest difference is the 5.56 CAN have a longer, heavier bullet whereas the ogive is more forward than a standard .223 round. Because of this difference the bullet of the .556 requires a longer throat to accommodate this. The .223 typically has a shorter throat which means running a .556 in the shorter throat gun can cause the bullet to jam into the lands and drive pressures up even higher. Additionally, the .556 has a slightly narrower shoulder than a .223 for improved feeding in military guns. Not necessarily a big deal but the throat is a big consideration.
The word ogive just gave me ptsd from stats class. Lols
Are you sure about norrower shoulder?
You guys have helped me alot with my first AR build. I have an Anderson. Doesn't have an adjustable gas block and I just figured out that the seal from the block to the gas tube isn't fully sealed. So I will be getting an adjustable block and new barrel. Thank you again.
3/22/24 Thank you for the video, way too much confusing info on the internet. I bought a complete upper in .223 Wylde thinking I can only use .223 caliber. Happy to find out I was wrong. Thanks, Tom
Probably the best 10 of my day. I have wondered about this for a while and could not find an answer stated as well as you all just did it. Thank you for this.
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A very concise and smart explanation of these caliber differences… nice job guys.
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I got a .223 Wylde upper and it’s treated me very well I’ve run .223 and 5.56 and I haven’t had any problem. Both run great I had some gas issues but that was on my end when I built it the gas tap wasn’t right.
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Still work right I’m thinking about 223 for range 5.56 for hunting
@@iddkirdk3577 so realistically it depends on what you plan to hunt .223 has less powder technically but the ballistics of moth rounds are pretty similar coming out of that barrel. Sorry it took a while i have not been paying attention
You should do a video on 308 and 7.62x51 nato. That would be cool too!!
Agreed
308 chambers are higher pressure so can shoot both.
7.62x51 chambers are lower pressure so can only shoot 7.62x51.
Its would be the same with 5.56 NATO an 223 rem.
@@ej_22 it's opposite.
I bought a used Mini 14 Ranch Rifle marked 223 and contacted Ruger and asked if it was safe to run 5.56
They emailed me back and said It was rated for 5.56 and I was safe to use it.
For my builds I always just go for the best quality barrel for the purpose of the rifle before I worry about the chambering. 18" mk12 clone -> stainless steel 223 Wylde usually gets better accuracy. M16A2 clone -> CHF 5.56 Nato is fine. HK416/M27 clone -> 16" Heavy barrel 5.56 Nato with a superlative arms piston system. 223 Wylde is great and 5.56 Nato is great. Both shoot both .223/5.56
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Wylde was tired of the confusion between 223 & 556 so he made a 3rd option making it even MORE complicated? LOL
It's not more complicated.
@@pennywisdom9435 Nothing was complicated about a 556 chamber. It'll run both just fine. And while a 223 Wydle chamber will run both is does have faster throat errosion.
LMAO!
@@MatteoThreeEightyFive that's what she said.
Haaa! Yeah right???
Both my ARs (RRA A2 Standard, and midis are Wylde. Great accuracy as I use my A2 for 200/300 yard competition.
Shot the middie a few weeks ago (for the first time in years). Sub MOA 3-shot group at 200 - iron sights (I stopped at 3 shots to check POI because shadows were hiding the holes). Was using CM-93.
In fairness, when the sun got over the trees my next
group opened up. No biggie. Had fun ringing the 11” steel plate at 300 afterwards.
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Assembled a 18" 223 wylde faxon barrel on my upper. Was able to get 5 shot 3/4" groups with 223 match ammo. Very pleased.
What was the yardage in those shots
I have tried 5.56 thru .223 with no issues. Like you said it's not recommended but it still works if needed.
I've never heard of anyone actually having a catastrophic failure or knows on anyone that's had a catastrophic failure from shooting 5.56 out of .223.
@@Joe_Friday Same here
I’ve only seen a couple of problems from running 556 in a 223 but only with low quality rifles and even then, only when putting a lot of rounds downrange in a relatively short period of time. And never the catastrophic failure that I’ve heard about, it was simply excessive wear on the chamber. And that might have just been the poor quality of the rifles.
How did you determine this excessive wear in the chamber? You mentioned a couple of problems? What were they?
When I was looking for my AR I didn’t know that wylde was a chamber. I found out quickly enough with a little research. At first I was thinking that sounds too specific and finding ammo may be difficult. Now that I have it because of the versatility of Wylde ammo selection is much wider.
Im with Matt. I look for the cheap rounds.
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@@TlegrmMe_BTSportMaps. No. Spaaaaaam.
223 Wylde is a great, accurate chambering. Had an early Bushmaster with 223 Rem chamber that would slam fire with 556 (not every time) because of the floating firing pin of the AR system. Barrel swap followed promptly.
Someone told me the 5.56 was a frogs hair larger than the 223 and thats what made the interchange dangerous. Seriously, thank you for educating me today.
My last two '5.56' rifles have .223 Wylde chambering. Didn't specifically seek out that clambering, but it makes sense.
Just finished my Aero Precision build with a 18in fluted Wylde barrel. I’m excited!
I went with a Wylde for my longer-range set-up. I load to .223 specs (Mostly shooting 75gr BTHP) to go for 1MOA (ish) accuracy, but I like that I can toss in some XM855 without issue.
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Based match ammo user.
I believe that was about the best explanation on the different chambers I've heard so far. I believe y'all don't give away enough Barrett rifles away.
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I have a 20” 223 Wylde topped with a vortex 4-12 scope. Can hunt smaller game with a 62-67 grain 223 round. Or keep the redcoats uncomfortable at a distance with some 55 grain 5.56 rounds.
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I like the the fact you have 2 calibers you can use for the rifle. If one not available u can get the other
Same for the 5.56 barrels
Built my CA complaint Featureless around Odin Works 223 Wylde Barrel. Odin promises a 1moa at 100meters, and I found that to be an accurate statement. I'm overall giddy as a school girl on prom night with my build
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Really good explanation of the difference between 223 and 556! I love the 223 wylde alternative. Sounds like the o e for me.
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My brother has a savage axis 223 that he has only ran 556 thru about 1100rds now he said it will never blow up from firing 556 thru it so far he has been right he was being a jack a** to prove a point
You guys should do a range comparison at say 100yards to find out how much more accurate, if any, the Wylde really is. I’m curious.
It's not really noticeable
I just tested 9 barrels with a variety of 5.56 ammo and the most accurate was a LaRue 18” Stealth chambered in Wylde.
I like that the .223 Wylde chamber can eat both, civilian and NATO ammo, reliably accurately, and safely. No worries about accidentally feeding NATO 5.56 into a .223 Rem chamber, when you have a .223 Wylde chamber. This is also why I use a Criterion M118 chamber on "large frame" AR builds. With the M118 chamber, .308 Win, and 7.62x51 NATO are good to send. Another advantage to both the .223 Wylde, and M118 chambers are if a SHTF situation occurs, it opens up the options for hunting down more ammo, when things get harder to acquire.
The absolute best definition and description of the Wylde chambering
Something I didn't hear you mention was ammo availability. 223 is significantly more expensive and less common compared to 556. My local store has 556 bulk all day but not many options for loads. 223 has more options like hollow points. But it's about twice the price as 556
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Bought .223 wylde 1:9. Built for 55g. Runs wonderful. Just as good as my beater 10.5 5.56 bear creek tho.
Only downside to my nice expensive .223 wylde is it will not run steal.
223 WYLDE from ballistic advantage has been one of my favorite barrels since they came out.
I've always used ARs with 5.56NATO chambers. ZERO issues with 5.56x45 OR .223 Remington.
Same!
Thanks, my brother and I were wondering about this 223 Wylde... now we know.
My home brew guns a 10.5 and an 18 are both 223 Wylde,1 in 7 and 1 in 8 respectively. Works fine, lasts a long time, don’t collect dust and don’t rust. Both stainless steel. It’s all about fun, till it’s not. See you later.
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I prefer a 5.56 chambering it has been the most reliable out of the 3 chamberings from my personal experience and the pressure difference between 5.56 and .223 is far under the built in saftey factor of the barrel
Not 223 wylde… Remington 223 barrel yes
The Wylde chamber is actually larger than the 5.56 in every dimension except for the freebore diameter which aligns the bullet on the bore and that is what improves accuracy.
I love my 223 wylde barrel. It's a 1/8 twist 18in barrel and I reload 75 grain 223 ammunition for it and it is a sub moa at 100, and I'm getting around 1 1/2in at 200yrds
I bought a rifle kit from Thunder Tactical. was pleased to find it is .223 Wylde!
In my country, guns are usually produced in caliber 223 Rem. and is also intended for use with 5.56x45 NATO ammunition. Commonly sold AR15 M4s are 223 REM with mil spec. As a civilian I can only buy a 223 Remington anyway. 556 I have never seen anyone selling it. It is mostly military ammunition. Any armor-piercing or extra-effective ammunition is automatically classified as military material and may not be sold on the civilian market.
I love both . Criterion and Centurion are my favorites. One is 223W and other is 556n . For practical accuracy I can't tell a difference. I'm also not a precision shooter . I have heard that Criterion barrels are one of the most accurate C.L. Barrels . Colt SOCOM I think is the most accurate C.L. 556 barrel .
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“If it won’t eat steel, it doesn’t deserve brass”. Best quote I’ve heard this year.
This video was a great help understanding the .223 Wylde markings I have seen on rifle barrels. Thanks
I have multiple AR rifles in various makes and lengths. All are chambered in 5.56 except for an early model LVOA-S that's chambered in .223 Wylde. It outshoots all of my other ARs in accuracy.
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Get a Compass Lake Engineering chambered/throated barrel. . It supports single loading of VLD’s for great results at Long Range as well as best results with .223 or 5.56. And remember handloading makes some of this stuff moot.
I have 223 wylde 24 " target crown bull barrel. Also have a non wylde 223 556 16" barrel. The bull is more accurate then the pencil barrel. Hand load them both pencil barrel whip was bad but fixed that good to go now for cqb rifle.
Been shooting an Armalite Wylde barrel for years. 62 Grain M855 sub MOA every shot. Great Chambering.
So okay it took the whole show to say: you can shoot 223 in 5.56, but not vise versus, but The Wild dies Both!!! Lol
But you guys did a great job breaking it down.
I admit , first time I saw 223 wylde I passed buying it because i didnt want some wierd non standard cartridge. Much later found oit it was a chamber that handled both 556 and 223. Have decided to make next rifle 223 wylde.
I got a M&P 15 which is 5.56, i put a aimpoint PRO on it. My second AR is a 223 wylde which i put a strike eagle on it. At 25-200 yrds they shoot the same. At 500+ i can see the difference. Compared to my AK i wish there was an accuracy boost to 7.62x39.
My savage ar has a Wylde barrel and it shoots all grain bullets very accurate.
Yes. Same here. I haven't pushed it way out there but my groups are tighter on my savage with the Wylde and and the 5R rifling.
What twist rate are you running?
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When it comes to failures you should do something on people using reloads. I had to give medical attention yesterday to a guy who blew his bolt action up took a chunck out of his forehead and check. Had he not had a scope he might of lost an eye judging the trajectory of the stock splinters and his wounds.
Just out of curiosity, what type of wound care did you administer? All I carry on me is a tourniquet but I want to start carrying some additional medical items.
My Savage Recon has the 223 wylde barrel. I don't know how many times I've had to explain what that means.
Really great video guys, great information. As someone building their first AR this was all information that I have been researching already (wish this video had come up earlier.)
Maybe it just a difference in time that the information is more readily available, but I do find it odd how many questions you get looking for 223 cartridges. In my very initial searches it became very immediately clear what the chambering meant
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I run a 18" barrel with 223 wylde chamber and exclusively shoot 77gr 5.56. I have shot this gun out to 1000 yards. Only chamber I ever see myself using.
I'd like to see an on the range side by side 5.56 vs .223 wylde comparison. Similar guns with the chamber being the only difference to show the actual difference in accuracy. I dont think most average shooters like myself would notice the difference.
You are probably right, that a 223 fired out of a 556, versus out of a 223 wylde, will probably be more limited by the person behind the trigger than anything else. But why poo poo it if it offers an edge? And I have personally noticed a difference between my 223W and my wife’s 556, even though it’s not that much. The twist rate and bullet weight I think probably make as much difference. But, I’m glad to have it. Every little edge helps
The PWS MK111 Mod 2 is an excellent long stroke piston weapon system.
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Love my first build in .223 Wlyde. Frankenstein as all hell it is lol 😆. Started with the "dreaded MAG Tactial" stripped lowers, I've never had any problems with my lower. No Catastrophic failures yet lol..
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"If it doesn't eat steel it doesn't deserve brass" 😁
...UNLESS the choice is personal. In other words, just because MOST AR’s can “eat” steel, doesn’t mean a lot of shooters want to FEED ‘em steel when brass is known to NOT be as harsh on extractors, etc. That controversy between brass and steel EXISTS for a reason: there’s a hint of truth to it. IF brass is LESS harsh on the BCG and components..WHY feed steel UNLESS it’s just for economical reasons. If it’s LONGEVITY you’re after..BRASS ammo will win EVERY time.
@@m118lr The controversy exists because people like you continue to spread the myth. The advantages of brass are cleaner shooting and reloading.
The amount of money saved by shooting JUST STEEL over the course of life for a barrel and bcg would be enough to buy multiple barrels and bcgs for replacements. Reloads and cleanliness are the only reasons.
@@jonnyl2001 Yeah ammo can be quite expensive.
@@m118lr steel in ammo is 1.1 on the hardness scale. Brass is 1.0. Hardly a difference but huge in price. $200 cheaper per the thousand right now. I could buy a new gun and barrrel after 10,000 rounds of steel
Personally I started off on a .223 Wylde barrel and loved being able to shoot whatever I found, but personally these days I enjoy 5.56 barrels more. Usually much cheaper, can with some exemptions be seen as more durable, and most importantly for me, delivers sub moa accuracy with 5.56, which for no reason at all is my caliber of choice. And honestly with accuracy like that it’s a good way to know if I miss its purely my fault, and I only demand practical accuracy. Now if I was building an SPR or something of the like .223 wylde all day. But I just want a rugged rifle that can shoot either round, and will go through the same hole with m855.
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I have a .223 wylde 20" 1:7 Premium series DMR barrel from Ballistic Advantage. It shoots sub moa with match grade 5.56 AND 223 Rem and really loves the 65-77 grain stuff. The whole "specialized" argument is moot. More and more manufacturers are chambering in Wylde for that very reason.
Of course they are. It simplifies their process. So much so you will see 556 marked barrels pass a Wylde gauge but fail on a 556 gauge. The down side is the Wylde has more throat errosion than a 556.
My 223w 16 Inch barrel shoots sub MOA with 65-70s grain too!! I was absolutely surprised!
@@MatteoThreeEightyFive I would be curious as to why the Wylde chambering would suffer more than the 5.56, it's basically and inbetween in terms of throat lead between a .223 and a 5.56. Why wouldn't standard .223 then suffer even more from the same issue? Or are we talking when only firing 5.56 loads through said chamber? This is genuine curioosity, no sarcasm.
@@OddBallPerformance For the very reason you mention. Its a hybrid chamber with less leade or free bore than a 556 chamber. And yes a 223 Rem chamber would suffer this even more because it has less than the Wylde chamber. And this occurs whether you are shooting 556 or 223. Although using 556 will exacerbate the issue. But the short of it is when there is less free bore, then at the moment the bullet has jumped into the rifling. Thus slowing down due to friction. The reduced chamber area allows the gases to get to higher pressures and temps because of that delay, resulting in a plasma cutting effect.
@@MatteoThreeEightyFive how many rounds do you think it would take for this to really matter? Assuming you're not firing the overpressured m855a1.
I use .223 Wylde exclusively in all my builds. But they are getting more difficult to come by and more expensive now. You will have more luck finding a complete upper
assembly then you will finding the barrel alone right now. The Wylde barrel is available in many lengths. Even pistol barrels.
That’s a fact. When I bought my 223W about three years ago, I think I paid 300 for it. Now, slightly lower quality version of the same is 2-1/2 times that price from the same manufacturer.
Luckily my first AR I bought was 223 wylde. I did days and days of constant research. I now own 2 ARs, one with 223 wylde and my other is with a 556 barrel.
This confirmed what I had previously learned. Thank you.
I have a 223 bolt action and fired a 556 It took a cleaning rod to tap the empty case out I'm guessing just a hair too much expansion tightened it to STUCK!
223 Wylde all the way in this ammogeddon...gotta pick up whatever you can find. As much as I hate buying different grain ammo, I've been picking up everything between 55 to 62/68 grain in either 223 or 556
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I used to be a C3 dealer and fired everything 556, 223 brass case all the time I would let anyone shoot it as long as they provided ammo, the only thing I had trouble with was aluminum it did not like it it would pull the primer out and dump all the powder in the receiver, 7 “ barrel nice light show
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Just ordered a .223 Wylde from Wilson Combat online today in 18 inch Super Sniper with a crowned barrel. Looking forward to shooting this gun.
Awesome, now I can send my buddies into the shop looking for .223 Wylde ammo
I have a mini 14 from the '80s, all I've ever used was military ammo and never had a problem. Actually seems more accurate, don't know what it does to the harmonics.
I always thought that 223 Wild was a more accurate choice for both 556 and 223 Rem.
I've ALWAYS only built or bought either 223wylde or 556 so that I'm good to go with either
I like 556 through a 556. I would not shoot 556 through a 223 but the Wylde is a neat option I might need to try in the future.
My Ar 15 has a 223 Wylde barrel. It works fine for me
When I first started shooting a friend brought out a ar15 varmint platform in 223. We tried to put 556 through it and on the 3rd round it jammed so hard it had to go to the smithy to have the brass removed from the chamber.
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gavintoobe points out that measuring techniques yield different results though measuring equivalent loads. It seems he points out that both measure basically the same if the same measuring technique is used. Your thoughts?
Thanks. I am finally clear on this dilemma.