As an old, died in the wool windsurfer this starting technique makes perfect sense. It is a sort of waterstart for foil boards using the power of the wing to aid a stand up without kneeling on the board. Instructors need to see this as an advanced starting method to teach.
Thanks for this! I got super lucky because I just switched to a new board that is +15L my weight and went out in 20+ Knots with strong swell in the bay of San Francisco. I could no longer do the kneel approach that worked with my +30L board. I was constantly getting knocked off the board before I could get the wing in the air. Then I remembered the video! My brain said, "do that!" Worked great! Thanks again for the great tip.
Thanks Alan. Top advice. I’m four sessions in to learning and my knees are raw! Tried this today in low wind, you’ve got some pop dude!! I’ll get there 🤙
Brilliant Alan, thanks for this. I too have a 55l board and although I have the knee starts completely dialled, this is definitely something to progress to. Top man.
Hey Matthew... if you don't mind me asking... what's your weight? I just had a nightmare session with a shortie wetsuit and my knees and back are in pain. My instructor was old school. I think I buy the kit and teach the instructors Alan style. My weight is about 182 lbs
Another Great Video. Some non-Windsurfers and Wingers (without harness)may not understand what is "The harness hook problem". The hook on the harness will get in the way as you are trying to pull yourself up on the board. It can also damage your board. Keep the Videos coming!
outstanding video and very helpful. it is inspiring to hear for example that you were kneeling on your board quite a lot because that's the stage I'm at I can't even stand up yet. I'm taking the baby steps. The exercises the leg strengthening and the balance exercises. I'm going to follow your lead on this. What I see you doing here is exactly what I need to learn how to do. Thank you.
Great tutorial. I have an inflatable foil board so the harness hook is in it's way but board damage in not an issue for me. What I really like about the idea that sitting is easier balance in choppy ocean conditions. I find climbing on my board and balancing on my knees very exhausting. Although I'm more of a heavy weight and don't know if I can come up on my feet from the sitting position, the tip leaning back would be very helpful in this. I never thought about it until now that flipping the wing will also be easier by sitting on the board than on your knees. Looking forward to to try this all in my next session, waiting for some wind in Holland.
Thanks for video. I am going to go out right now on a lake in Pennsylvania and take my second attempt on the board. 52, so the body isn't as nimble but I really want to master this. Thanks for video. I love the beach touch and go practice. I'll be doing on my dock. Thanks again!
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 Today I had the 4th session ever on my wing. I could start as you with the one hand on the board and the wing in the other hand. It was amazing to get this way on the board! Thanks again!
Great video, Alan. Thank you!! So, this technique basically looks like a windsurf water start but from the board, as opposed to the water? I need to practice both, anyway, so look forward to giving this a try. "Knees were literally bleeding..." Yikes. Not something I'd want to have going on in the waters of the tropical Pacific lol!
Muchas gracias por enseñar esta técnica a los que empezamos. Te escribo desde la provincia de Cádiz, como tu apellido. Es una provincia de Andalcia, en España. tenías que conocer este lugar y en concreto la localidad de Tarifa. Te enamorarías. Saludos.
Great tutorial Thanks. I´m 5´11 169lb, getting your same board shown in this video, the fanatic Sky board, should I go 5´0 or 5´4? Advanced kitefoiler, low intermediate wingfoiler
Loved that video, my knees still bleading :) I will definitely try your tactics.. I use the same fanatic board, why it cuts like hell our knees ?! So sad to having this problem. First day I use that board like a paddle board, my nipples was bleeding at the end of the day 😂
@@timlubbe7555 Half german half english :) If I understand correct ; you are asking me that I am able to surf with wings ?? right now ; I spent like 6 hours... just going with wing.. not jump on a fpil.. Trying to turns on my knees... (which are bleeding because of the soft thing on the board) Practice.. practice... practiceee..
@@BatuhanYumrukaya thanks for your answer. No, i would like to know if you mastered the alternative possibility to start without kneeing on your board? It needs some flexibility i guess. Sorry for my englisch;-)
@@timlubbe7555 keeing is the best option.. Rodeo style is not fits for me because I'm 80kg.. Cant pull myself up high.. I bought knee protector just like thick socks...Now my knee's are ok..
Aloha Andre, It will be easiest to learn on a big board, big foil, and for the first few runs a small wing. Check out my premium site, Patreon.com/AlanCadiz. Lots of info there. Thanks Alan
Dear Alan. Thank you for your videos which I find useful. As regards Patreon, mention is made of an unlimited access to all videos with the subscription or USD 5 for each video ?
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 thank you. I just added footstraps to my "surf foil board (50 liters) so I can try this technique and one other one "th-cam.com/video/4M7atHH_lZ8/w-d-xo.html". I would love to hear your opinion on that one.
Beginner sailor equals big board. 140l is a good size to learn on but you will out grow it. I think 70L would be a good size for your 140lbs. but not until you are skilled. Start big and work your way down to a small board. Going straight to a small board will slow your progress.
Thanks for the video. I don't have issues with a kneeling start but this sitting start seems much more comfortable and probably even faster. Tests on my house floor show I should be able to do it but the real tests will come when I manage to catch the next session. Great inovation 👏
Hi, nice video! I have a question... Did You ever try to ride a 160 twintip with a handle Wing? With your experience, do you think it is possible to ride a lightwind twintip kiteboard powered by a wing? What should be the intensity of the wind necessary to achieve it? Thank you in avance for Your reply.
Yes, it is possible. I rode my old directional kite board in about 40 knots of wind. It takes a lot of wind but it is possible. But why? It was hard, intense pounding and really not fun. Use a foil as soon as you can get one. You will like it!
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 Dear Alan: I really appreciate the time you took to answer me, I have no doubt that your experience and knowledge are very useful for our community, and it helps us to improve and even support us in purchasing decisions. 40 knots are really strong winds, and not recommended for beginners like me. I will definitely keep saving so that I can buy a hydrofoil instead of buying a second hand kiteboard hahahahaha, again thank you very much!
@@CONICONACOCA I did make a video of my experience of using that old kit board but never publish it. I will look at it again now to see if it is worthy.
Love your videos. As someone over 60 and transitioning from windsurfing, your explanations and visuals are excellent and realistic.
As an old, died in the wool windsurfer this starting technique makes perfect sense. It is a sort of waterstart for foil boards using the power of the wing to aid a stand up without kneeling on the board.
Instructors need to see this as an advanced starting method to teach.
Thanks for this! I got super lucky because I just switched to a new board that is +15L my weight and went out in 20+ Knots with strong swell in the bay of San Francisco. I could no longer do the kneel approach that worked with my +30L board. I was constantly getting knocked off the board before I could get the wing in the air. Then I remembered the video! My brain said, "do that!" Worked great! Thanks again for the great tip.
Thank you Idguinnss, I have more videos instruction on my premium site Patreon.com/AlanCadiz
Thanks Alan, another great video. All - I'm claiming that Alan has Elf like skills - he's amazing...
Thanks Maarten, I'll put in a good word to Santa for you.
Thanks Alan. Top advice. I’m four sessions in to learning and my knees are raw! Tried this today in low wind, you’ve got some pop dude!! I’ll get there 🤙
Thank you for teaching us how to get up fast
Brilliant Alan, thanks for this. I too have a 55l board and although I have the knee starts completely dialled, this is definitely something to progress to. Top man.
Hey Matthew... if you don't mind me asking... what's your weight? I just had a nightmare session with a shortie wetsuit and my knees and back are in pain. My instructor was old school. I think I buy the kit and teach the instructors Alan style. My weight is about 182 lbs
@@onederment Hiya, I'm 71Kg (155lbs)
Another Great Video. Some non-Windsurfers and Wingers (without harness)may not understand what is "The harness hook problem". The hook on the harness will get in the way as you are trying to pull yourself up on the board. It can also damage your board. Keep the Videos coming!
Best explanations and shared advice on TH-cam.....now where is my wind!!!
Thanks Dan, its coming!
Thanks Alan. Should be a great help for us older ones with dodgy knees and hips.
This was EXTREMELY helpful. Thank you Alan 🤙
Thank you.
Thanks Allan for posting. I was thinking of removing my back foot strap. Now I will after seeing your setup.
Thanks Greg, I like the ability to move my back foot around and because I'm not taking this sport to the air I don't need the back strap.
Great work, Alan! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences! You are helping me to improve my WingFoil abilities!
Your welcome Claus, Please check out my premium videos at www.patreon.com/AlanCadiz for more videos like this one.
outstanding video and very helpful. it is inspiring to hear for example that you were kneeling on your board quite a lot because that's the stage I'm at I can't even stand up yet. I'm taking the baby steps. The exercises the leg strengthening and the balance exercises. I'm going to follow your lead on this. What I see you doing here is exactly what I need to learn how to do. Thank you.
Jonatan. How’s it going now… 6 months later?
Very helpful for me as a beginner looking at ways to get up. Thanks!
Super cool! I'll mess around with this techniques today! It sure would help when in the impact zone trying to get up and out of there fast!
Great tutorial. I have an inflatable foil board so the harness hook is in it's way but board damage in not an issue for me.
What I really like about the idea that sitting is easier balance in choppy ocean conditions. I find climbing on my board and balancing on my knees very exhausting. Although I'm more of a heavy weight and don't know if I can come up on my feet from the sitting position, the tip leaning back would be very helpful in this.
I never thought about it until now that flipping the wing will also be easier by sitting on the board than on your knees.
Looking forward to to try this all in my next session, waiting for some wind in Holland.
Thanks Manuel, lmk how it goes.
Great, just remembered watching your videos on how to jibe on windsurf
Cool, thanks!
Thanks for video. I am going to go out right now on a lake in Pennsylvania and take my second attempt on the board. 52, so the body isn't as nimble but I really want to master this. Thanks for video. I love the beach touch and go practice. I'll be doing on my dock. Thanks again!
Thank you for the video, Alan. Much appreciated. Aloha from the Netherlands! peace
Very good examples of techniques!
great video, I like how you started. most guys start on the knees, but this looks more comfortable. keep sending the tips!
Thanks Bryan, Check out my premium site Patreon.com/AlanCadiz for more videos like this one.
A while ago I thought that there must be a waterstart similar to windsurfing. Voila here we are. Thank you!
Thanks Alan, priceless tips in this vid! I can see a huge market for knee pads with this sport.
Great tips for sure. Thank you for sharing.
You are so welcome!
best approach ever-thank you. your explanations and strategies are brilliant!
Thank you Agata, There are more "how to Wing" videos like this at my premium site Patreon.com/AlanCadiz
Thank you! I will soon be putting into practice what you just taught.
Excellent information, thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks Alan. Super helpful, as always. 👍🏻
My pleasure!
Thanks Alan.
Great help !
Thanks Bill, I have more videos like this on my premium site, Patreon.com/AlanCadiz Check it out. Alan
Thanks for this super video! It will help me to get faster on the board. 🤙
Thanks Cezary, check my premium site for more helpful videos like this one. Patreon.com/AlanCadiz
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 Today I had the 4th session ever on my wing. I could start as you with the one hand on the board and the wing in the other hand. It was amazing to get this way on the board! Thanks again!
Cheers dude! Nice hints. I prefer the pole to handles.😊
Great video, Alan. Thank you!! So, this technique basically looks like a windsurf water start but from the board, as opposed to the water? I need to practice both, anyway, so look forward to giving this a try. "Knees were literally bleeding..." Yikes. Not something I'd want to have going on in the waters of the tropical Pacific lol!
Cool, I've been getting up on my knees, but my 6mm wetsuit helps for that! Will have to learn the sit start before going somewhere warmer!
Great advice! Thanks for sharing.
Good video! Haha, we are the ones who work hard on TH-cam! I subscribed to your channel!
Simply epic! Mahalo.
Muchas gracias por enseñar esta técnica a los que empezamos. Te escribo desde la provincia de Cádiz, como tu apellido. Es una provincia de Andalcia, en España. tenías que conocer este lugar y en concreto la localidad de Tarifa. Te enamorarías. Saludos.
Great tutorial!
Interesting! Looking forward to trying it … and learning 🤙🏼
this is a great video, thanks.
Epic , you are the man...Looking forward to sailing with you again (now that I sort of can).
I was on Oahu last month, sorry I missed you.
Great video. Looking forward to trying it out!
Great tutorial! Thanx Alan.
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for the video
Fantastic Alan thanks
Great vid! Thanks!
Thank you for this video. - Gabriel
Great tutorial Thanks.
I´m 5´11 169lb, getting your same board shown in this video, the fanatic Sky board, should I go 5´0 or 5´4?
Advanced kitefoiler, low intermediate wingfoiler
Loved that video, my knees still bleading :) I will definitely try your tactics.. I use the same fanatic board, why it cuts like hell our knees ?! So sad to having this problem. First day I use that board like a paddle board, my nipples was bleeding at the end of the day 😂
He there, ich have this Kind of Problem with my 75l board too. Did you mastered alans start?
@@timlubbe7555 Half german half english :) If I understand correct ; you are asking me that I am able to surf with wings ?? right now ; I spent like 6 hours... just going with wing.. not jump on a fpil.. Trying to turns on my knees... (which are bleeding because of the soft thing on the board) Practice.. practice... practiceee..
@@BatuhanYumrukaya thanks for your answer. No, i would like to know if you mastered the alternative possibility to start without kneeing on your board? It needs some flexibility i guess.
Sorry for my englisch;-)
@@timlubbe7555 keeing is the best option.. Rodeo style is not fits for me because I'm 80kg.. Cant pull myself up high.. I bought knee protector just like thick socks...Now my knee's are ok..
Ah ok. I have got a infrapatellar bursitis from kneeing as i have changed from 90l to 75l.
Alan, would you talk about or recommend the right equipament for beginners?
Aloha Andre, It will be easiest to learn on a big board, big foil, and for the first few runs a small wing. Check out my premium site, Patreon.com/AlanCadiz. Lots of info there. Thanks Alan
Great tips thank you
gotta have my harness my knees hate kneelin so thats the ticket thanx alan!
Thanks for your help. Indeed, knees are suffering... 😅
Dear Alan. Thank you for your videos which I find useful. As regards Patreon, mention is made of an unlimited access to all videos with the subscription or USD 5 for each video ?
Aloha Mathieu, $5 for all. It is a great value. Please consider a higher pledge tier if you think you get more value out of my work. Thanks, Alan
Thank you so much.... It helps a lot..
that's a great innovation.
"It's winter on Maui. You can tell because there's waves on the North shore" lmao
Why is so funny? You must be from Arkansas or Missouri
@@ab687 yeah, my dad’s jokes aren’t always funny, but I liked this one. ;)
Carl, it's funny for people who live in cold snowy climates :)
@@CadyMasterman ok 👌🏻 I thought it was a mean joke, 🙂
@@mlu7686 I live in California but good to know 👍🏻
Fantastic, thanks for sharing. 😁
well made video. thanks!
Thank you Nathaniel, check you all my best videos on Patreon.com/AlanCadiz
Thank you. It will save my knees)
Does somebody know the volume of that FANATIC foil board???
55 liters
Thanks! Very helpfull, because i use a harness, and my Board got many little injuries till now. This will not happen to my next board! 😃😃👍
From a windsurfers perspective, i was wondering when you guys were going to implement a harness system...it might just sway me over
Sway away! You will like it.
Top ! thx.
Do you prefer wing foiling to windsurfing? Assuming you can windsurf...
Yes and I know a little about windsurfing.
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 I'm tempted as I'm looking for a light wind activity other than kite surfing. Would 10 -20 mph be enough?
@@natkingcol909 yes
GRACIAS!!!!🤙🏻
How much volume of your board?
55 Liters
What is the smallest liter board you have tried the "sitting" technique?
33 liters, In some ways it is easier on a sinker.
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 thank you. I just added footstraps to my "surf foil board (50 liters) so I can try this technique and one other one "th-cam.com/video/4M7atHH_lZ8/w-d-xo.html". I would love to hear your opinion on that one.
Thank you! So helpful!! Off topic question.. how long is your harness line on the boom?
Thanks Daniel, 28" harness line, standard length boom
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 thank you. Gonna try it soon... my harness line was too short when I tried it. I guess it was 24".
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 thanks Alan... the harness line already arrived... today we have some wind on the lake... gonna test it out :).
like a water start I wind surfing..let the wind do the work
It looks difficult.
Thanks.😉
Very helpful tips, thank you. I’m 140 lbs also and practicing with a 4.6 wing. What’s your recommendation on a foil board size, 140 liter?
Beginner sailor equals big board. 140l is a good size to learn on but you will out grow it. I think 70L would be a good size for your 140lbs. but not until you are skilled. Start big and work your way down to a small board. Going straight to a small board will slow your progress.
Thank you, my first 2 sessions were on an old Bic Dufour, 140 liters will be good for lighter days, and a wider range.
Great technique, are there rentals nearby?
Yes.
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 Thank you! I love watching your videos, please keep making them!
@@dollarette Please check out my premium site for my best videos at Patreon.com/AlanCadiz
I always feel like I need to get up fast to get away from the SHARKS that are going to EAT ME!!!!
How old are you brah? I'm 48, and thinking I'm probably too young.
Sure, you can wait, but why?
What size is that Fanatic board Alan ?
55L
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Thanks for the video. I don't have issues with a kneeling start but this sitting start seems much more comfortable and probably even faster. Tests on my house floor show I should be able to do it but the real tests will come when I manage to catch the next session. Great inovation 👏
Thank you 👍
Slightly different technique then I am used to. Thank you for sharing 👍🏄🏼♂️
Now that I'm getting better, I may try that. Top of my feet is killing me when I kneel on the board waiting to get up.
Thank you so much, this is perfectly described and really helpful ! ❤
Hi, nice video! I have a question... Did You ever try to ride a 160 twintip with a handle Wing? With your experience, do you think it is possible to ride a lightwind twintip kiteboard powered by a wing? What should be the intensity of the wind necessary to achieve it? Thank you in avance for Your reply.
Yes, it is possible. I rode my old directional kite board in about 40 knots of wind. It takes a lot of wind but it is possible. But why? It was hard, intense pounding and really not fun. Use a foil as soon as you can get one. You will like it!
@@alancadizwingfoilinginstru2926 Dear Alan: I really appreciate the time you took to answer me, I have no doubt that your experience and knowledge are very useful for our community, and it helps us to improve and even support us in purchasing decisions. 40 knots are really strong winds, and not recommended for beginners like me. I will definitely keep saving so that I can buy a hydrofoil instead of buying a second hand kiteboard hahahahaha, again thank you very much!
@@CONICONACOCA I did make a video of my experience of using that old kit board but never publish it. I will look at it again now to see if it is worthy.