One of the first post punk acts along with Digital by Joy division and Killing an Arab by The Cure all released few months apart each other , all of them r quite influential..
I may be wrong, but there is so much variety in post punk sound in the early days, and fast forward to now, almost every band tries to sound very similar to Joy Division
@@d-pod_L well, i don't see many of the modern post punk bands using overdrive guitar tones like joy division did , many of them using cleaner tones and lots of chorus/flangers like The Cure did for an instance, but yeah, lots of them trying to deliver vocals in baritones like Ian Curtis did, everything else , like drum patterns and High base is epitome of post punk and doesn't belong to one band in particular
Well, I can explain to you but I can't understand for you.😄 It's just a fun radio friendly song and it sounds very modern for 1978. Context, Alex, context.
“I'll never forget, there was a Chinese restaurant in Chislehurst called the Hong Kong Garden. Me and my friend were really upset that we used to go there and like, occasionally when the skinheads would turn up it would really turn really ugly. These gits would just go in en masse and just terrorise these Chinese people who were working there. We'd try and say 'Leave them alone', you know. It was a kind of tribute.” “I remember wishing that I could be like Emma Peel from The Avengers and kick all the skinheads' heads in, because they used to mercilessly torment these people for being foreigners. It made me feel so helpless, hopeless and ill.”
Saw Banshees in 6/6/86 in Los Angeles California. Love and Rockets opened for them. Ended up going the following night. .....and of course the song was simple. It was one of their earlier tunes.
Don't tiptoe around the Siouxsie discography - dive straight in, album by album. They were the "Stones" to The Cure's "Beatles" & more. And if you're coming to music solely as a fickle consumer with little curiosity toward history or context, you're at risk of missing out on why these songs mattered in the first place. They were made for living & survival, not Spotify.
I dislike the Stones and thus the analogy, but it's a fair one. I kind of understand your point about Spotify and how things have changed...but although Spotify is FAR from perfect, easy access has its pluses, I would say.
yeah its a very bare bones and simple song compared to Siouxsie and the Banshee's later work first couple of albums from her were like this, then it takes on a more lush sound that i think would appeal to you more the scream and join hands are both this style of post punk, if you want to see the band's evolution it would be good to include one of these just as a comparison on where they were as to what they would become. They are pretty much like the "three imaginary boys" album from the cure in this respect. This song in particular is interesting if you dig into the lyrics. Siouxsie wrote this as a response to the racist activities of skinheads at a local Chinese restaurant.
I think the subject matter of this song is a perfect example of why I love SATB so much. They were uncompromising in all the right ways. Pop sensibilities without a lot of whiny emo type lyrics, controversial or thought provoking subject matters, a lot of candy wrapped arsenic, especially early on.
This is pretty much the point at which punk turned into goth. Siouxsie was part of the "Bromley contingent", a group of punks from Bromley in London who were followers of bands like the Sex Pistols. This is a very raw primal sound compared to later tracks, but an important step on their way.
This is one of Thurston Moore's favorite songs / But, The version used for the film “Marie Antoinette” 2006 is an orchestral remix, you might like that one a little bit more.
Wow... You chose the first single to start, very historic (1978) a song that debuts in pop to break the tension of punk and then came “The Scream" album in intense ascent to contrast and constant creativity. In Siouxsie Sioux words: Hong Kong Garden is “poppy and stood” / Severin: “it gave us leverage for everithing else that followed.” / It is known that SATB was a very influential band and each LP/single/b-side (both together and separately) marked some musical genre that are already recognized today. For example, Today in perspectiva, this song sounds closer to the Sonic Youth universe than to The Cure's. And the thing changes with another song etc. Hong Kong Garden began a change full of surprises in a band little committed to recording conventions. If one day you react to one of their LPs, I wouldn't know where to start. 👍
Looking it that way, it was good option to start from the beginning. Sounds cool to be able to discover the impulsive diversity of SATB music through its different guitarists for the first time from the start. 👌
Anxiously awaiting Sonic Youth's "Sister". "Juju" will always be the best Siouxsie album imho. John McGeoch is one of post-punks finest guitarists. You should do early Magazine as well. He was in that band as well before the Banshees.
I'm glad u're going to react to The Top and Bloodflowers.. one thing to say, i really think that some songs on Top really stands out Live, I don't like how album version of Piggy in a mirror sounds like for an instance but I'm totally a fan of it played live, mainly cuz of vocal delivery on that album version
Fine if you don't like it. Maybe you had to be there at the time. But I don't know who calls them post-punk. They were punk. Formed in 1976. As a teenager at the time I knew they were Punk followers of the Pistols. For crying out loud, Sid Vicious played drums for them. I suppose some f-wit somewhere will describe the Pistols as "post punk" some day.
If you want to get a good background of the banshees in one listen, check out the Nocturne album. It's like 1982-3 and it's almost a double album live. Has all their early best songs imo until they became more euphoric and atmospheric with Dazzle (which their 1984-1991 period is my fav)
I agree, not my favorite of their songs, but you gotta start somewhere, right? I equate this to the early Warsaw or Three Imaginery Boys material, all these bands trying to rise out of the confines of punk. Hopefully that makes sense, and hope you're well, Alex.
Tracks out of context and linear time will never make the same impact. Today's music has borrowed heavily from the past so older music will progressively lose its punch.
@@sevensolaris The Chameleons sure are transcendental, I bought every single album back in the day. There were so many bands in that era making innovative captivating music that made an especially strong impact to our fresh ears. With music being so dire nowadays, perhaps younger generations will be inspired just as much.
Alex, about The Cure, you should ditch Bloodflowers and do something else instead. I find It rather weak, even though theres a couple of songs I find pretty good, that being "The Last Day of Summer" and the opening track. The self-titled album (2004) and 4.13 Dream (2008) are overall stronger efforts in my opinion.
They are best band listen to the Banshees daily the music has never grown old. To sum up the best songs of their different periods. Post punk ICON. METAL POSTCARD. dark period all of JUJU DAZZLE and OBSESSION from the best period. Ornaments of gold and rhapsody The towards the end GHOST IN YOU. And to finnish it of with title track RAPTURE. This band are the best 😁
Love this song, but, am I the only one who likes more the Peel Session version than this one? Alex, Honk Kong Garden is just the first step to the rabbit hole of Siouxsie, they have INCREDIBLE albums, hope you react to their discography!!!
Listen to their song Swimming Horses. Robert Smith was in the band at the time and he was in the video too. It’s lush, exotic, erotic and strangely mesmerizing. Sounds nothing compared to this one. Give them a fair chance and you won’t regret it.
As the vocalist in the all female SATB tribute band, The Siouxsies, I can tell you that this wouldn't have been the best song or album to pick, However, we often start our set with it. It is easily recognizable, great energy and awakens the audience. I will say though, all the McGeoch/Budgie Era albums are amazing and my personal favorites. I would suggest listening to the lp "Juju" from beginning to end. I think then you might get it. 😉
react to juju by siouxsie and the banshees! hong kong garden is… okay imo. juju is one of their best along with tinderbox and a kiss in the dream house
Honestly this is a very poor representation of Siouxsie & The Banshees. They got a lot better in the 80s. Way better songs are Spellbound, Happy House, Israel, Running Town and Cities in Dust
The best Siouxsie & The Banshees period was the three albums with John McGeogh as guitarist.
Fair! I would add Hyaena as their only studio album with Robert Smith.
Damn right!
One of the first post punk acts along with Digital by Joy division and Killing an Arab by The Cure all released few months apart each other , all of them r quite influential..
I may be wrong, but there is so much variety in post punk sound in the early days, and fast forward to now, almost every band tries to sound very similar to Joy Division
@@d-pod_L well, i don't see many of the modern post punk bands using overdrive guitar tones like joy division did , many of them using cleaner tones and lots of chorus/flangers like The Cure did for an instance, but yeah, lots of them trying to deliver vocals in baritones like Ian Curtis did, everything else , like drum patterns and High base is epitome of post punk and doesn't belong to one band in particular
Well, I can explain to you but I can't understand for you.😄 It's just a fun radio friendly song and it sounds very modern for 1978. Context, Alex, context.
“I'll never forget, there was a Chinese restaurant in Chislehurst called the Hong Kong Garden. Me and my friend were really upset that we used to go there and like, occasionally when the skinheads would turn up it would really turn really ugly. These gits would just go in en masse and just terrorise these Chinese people who were working there. We'd try and say 'Leave them alone', you know. It was a kind of tribute.” “I remember wishing that I could be like Emma Peel from The Avengers and kick all the skinheads' heads in, because they used to mercilessly torment these people for being foreigners. It made me feel so helpless, hopeless and ill.”
Saw Banshees in 6/6/86 in Los Angeles California. Love and Rockets opened for them. Ended up going the following night. .....and of course the song was simple. It was one of their earlier tunes.
Don't tiptoe around the Siouxsie discography - dive straight in, album by album. They were the "Stones" to The Cure's "Beatles" & more.
And if you're coming to music solely as a fickle consumer with little curiosity toward history or context, you're at risk of missing out on why these songs mattered in the first place. They were made for living & survival, not Spotify.
I dislike the Stones and thus the analogy, but it's a fair one. I kind of understand your point about Spotify and how things have changed...but although Spotify is FAR from perfect, easy access has its pluses, I would say.
when the first vocals come in i always get chills
yeah its a very bare bones and simple song compared to Siouxsie and the Banshee's later work
first couple of albums from her were like this, then it takes on a more lush sound that i think would appeal to you more
the scream and join hands are both this style of post punk, if you want to see the band's evolution it would be good to include one of these just as a comparison on where they were as to what they would become. They are pretty much like the "three imaginary boys" album from the cure in this respect.
This song in particular is interesting if you dig into the lyrics. Siouxsie wrote this as a response to the racist activities of skinheads at a local Chinese restaurant.
I think the subject matter of this song is a perfect example of why I love SATB so much. They were uncompromising in all the right ways. Pop sensibilities without a lot of whiny emo type lyrics, controversial or thought provoking subject matters, a lot of candy wrapped arsenic, especially early on.
Robert Smith of The Cure was lead guitar for Siouxsie and The Banshees from 1982-1984.
Robert Smith of the Cure was their guitar player for a time.
This is pretty much the point at which punk turned into goth. Siouxsie was part of the "Bromley contingent", a group of punks from Bromley in London who were followers of bands like the Sex Pistols. This is a very raw primal sound compared to later tracks, but an important step on their way.
This is one of Thurston Moore's favorite songs / But, The version used for the film “Marie Antoinette” 2006 is an orchestral remix, you might like that one a little bit more.
Early Cocteau twins were heavily influenced by the Banshees, Liz Fraser had a home made Siouxsie tattoo at one point…
Wow... You chose the first single to start, very historic (1978) a song that debuts in pop to break the tension of punk and then came “The Scream" album in intense ascent to contrast and constant creativity. In Siouxsie Sioux words: Hong Kong Garden is “poppy and stood” / Severin: “it gave us leverage for everithing else that followed.” / It is known that SATB was a very influential band and each LP/single/b-side (both together and separately) marked some musical genre that are already recognized today. For example, Today in perspectiva, this song sounds closer to the Sonic Youth universe than to The Cure's. And the thing changes with another song etc. Hong Kong Garden began a change full of surprises in a band little committed to recording conventions. If one day you react to one of their LPs, I wouldn't know where to start. 👍
Looking it that way, it was good option to start from the beginning. Sounds cool to be able to discover the impulsive diversity of SATB music through its different guitarists for the first time from the start. 👌
Anxiously awaiting Sonic Youth's "Sister". "Juju" will always be the best Siouxsie album imho. John McGeoch is one of post-punks finest guitarists. You should do early Magazine as well. He was in that band as well before the Banshees.
I'm glad u're going to react to The Top and Bloodflowers.. one thing to say, i really think that some songs on Top really stands out Live, I don't like how album version of Piggy in a mirror sounds like for an instance but I'm totally a fan of it played live, mainly cuz of vocal delivery on that album version
Fine if you don't like it. Maybe you had to be there at the time.
But I don't know who calls them post-punk. They were punk. Formed in 1976. As a teenager at the time I knew they were Punk followers of the Pistols. For crying out loud, Sid Vicious played drums for them. I suppose some f-wit somewhere will describe the Pistols as "post punk" some day.
If you want to get a good background of the banshees in one listen, check out the Nocturne album. It's like 1982-3 and it's almost a double album live. Has all their early best songs imo until they became more euphoric and atmospheric with Dazzle (which their 1984-1991 period is my fav)
I agree, not my favorite of their songs, but you gotta start somewhere, right? I equate this to the early Warsaw or Three Imaginery Boys material, all these bands trying to rise out of the confines of punk. Hopefully that makes sense, and hope you're well, Alex.
,its actually only two notes G and F (not meant in a bad way) its a catchy song a toe tapper, i think 6.5 is a fair assement
I get your comment about the ten-point scale. 5 is OK. Anything above is positive.
Tracks out of context and linear time will never make the same impact. Today's music has borrowed heavily from the past so older music will progressively lose its punch.
Well said, a lot of truth to that!
I disagree. A band like The Chameleons has a catalog that holds up just as much today as it ever did.
@@sevensolaris The Chameleons sure are transcendental, I bought every single album back in the day. There were so many bands in that era making innovative captivating music that made an especially strong impact to our fresh ears. With music being so dire nowadays, perhaps younger generations will be inspired just as much.
Alex, about The Cure, you should ditch Bloodflowers and do something else instead. I find It rather weak, even though theres a couple of songs I find pretty good, that being "The Last Day of Summer" and the opening track. The self-titled album (2004) and 4.13 Dream (2008) are overall stronger efforts in my opinion.
They are best band listen to the Banshees daily the music has never grown old. To sum up the best songs of their different periods.
Post punk ICON. METAL POSTCARD.
dark period all of JUJU
DAZZLE and OBSESSION from the best period.
Ornaments of gold and rhapsody
The towards the end GHOST IN YOU.
And to finnish it of with title track RAPTURE. This band are the best 😁
Love this song, but, am I the only one who likes more the Peel Session version than this one? Alex, Honk Kong Garden is just the first step to the rabbit hole of Siouxsie, they have INCREDIBLE albums, hope you react to their discography!!!
I also find Siouxsie & The Banshees to be very "thin." There's just not a lot about their songs to appreciate or to connect to emotionally.
Listen to their song Swimming Horses. Robert Smith was in the band at the time and he was in the video too. It’s lush, exotic, erotic and strangely mesmerizing. Sounds nothing compared to this one. Give them a fair chance and you won’t regret it.
Sleeping Dogs :). Perfect for Hong Kong there.
As the vocalist in the all female SATB tribute band, The Siouxsies, I can tell you that this wouldn't have been the best song or album to pick, However, we often start our set with it. It is easily recognizable, great energy and awakens the audience. I will say though, all the McGeoch/Budgie Era albums are amazing and my personal favorites. I would suggest listening to the lp "Juju" from beginning to end. I think then you might get it. 😉
react to juju by siouxsie and the banshees! hong kong garden is… okay imo. juju is one of their best along with tinderbox and a kiss in the dream house
Israel is my all time favorite
Phenomenal song, agreed!
I love it played at Royal Albert hall with Robert smith
Ok
Honestly this is a very poor representation of Siouxsie & The Banshees. They got a lot better in the 80s. Way better songs are Spellbound, Happy House, Israel, Running Town and Cities in Dust
Nah i love this song
They do way better songs then this for sure. Not my favorite in fact I pass.