People often forget how amazing bass player Gene Simmons actually is. He is very good. And he still has the voice despite the age (unlike Paul Stanley).
Give him a break, he's just a teenager and will have time to learn. I seriously doubt he's even listened to Alive I. While most kids his age are still growing pubes, he's playing with a rock icon and other professional musicians.
It sounds and appears to me that he's in this band because of who his dad was, not because he's the new chopmaster general. My ears tell me Taylor should have gotten him a metronome for his 8th birthday. But hey - it's only rock and roll not saving the world so what the hell it doesn't sound that great it's still fun.
What's ironic is that Ace's solo band used to be Gene's solo band. Gene actually recommended them to Ace. I've heard them multiple times and they can play. They know Ace's solo and KISS' songs, even the more obscure ones, backwards and forwards. Sadly, I think Ace is dragging _them down_ a bit. His playing has seriously declined, his vocals are tired and not energetic, and he moves around at about 0.75 speed now. It kills me to say it because I'm a big Ace fan, but he's getting shows now because of his name only. It certainly isn't because of his playing ability.
@@TH-cam.Algorithmic.Nonsense it's okay to say it I've been saying it for the last 10 years I'm a die-hard kiss fan love every member and lineup but Ace is living off his past. And you're exactly right he's gotten to the point where he is bringing good musicians down.
It was painful listening to the drummer. With experience the drummer will learn to listen to the vocalist of whatever band he is in and if the singer is struggling to keep up with the lyrics it’s too fast and if the singer is hanging to long to a word it’s too slow. A young guy getting caught up in the emotion and adrenaline pushing him past the point of tempo. Still it’s all good!! It’s still worth the $1000 he paid Gene to do the show.
I feel Hawkins questioned whether to play slower, or softer in his head. Sure he was playing fast, & loud but if that happens you just go with it. Then again, Gene is much older now and probably prefers a more steady pace for singing. The kid is 16 years old (I think don’t quote me) and has lots of talent. Any band would be very lucky to have him.
I'm sure drummer is a nice guy but...cardinal sin of drummers is to speed up tempo when doing fills. Lock into the tempo and the song will have more power.
Poor guy was shot out of a cannon excited I'm sure. Gene was working him the whole song to slow down. He did fine. And tempo shifts are what make rock n roll... Stewart Copeland shifts tempo like crazy, and people think he's a pretty ok drummer.
@@SiloSoundStudios You're comparing apples and pizza. Deuce does not have any tempo or time signature changes in it. There's a difference between playing ahead or behind the beat and what took place it this vid. Also, if Stewart is going to change tempo in a song like this ot would for sure be planned. This is not a free form jam song where stuff like tempo changes randomly happen. It's simple meat n potatoes rock. To be fair, please cite the Stewart Copeland song you were referring. Cheers.
@@medievaltimes6473 ummmmm. Can't stand losing you. He's just excited and Gene is trying, and doing a great job btw, of pulling him down and getting him into the pocket.
His time was definitely all over the place. But I imagine the chance to play with Gene Simmons spiked his adrenaline super high. You can even tell before they started playing, he had all this nervous energy. A chance of a lifetime.
Yeah. He’s 17 and plays every bit like an excited 17 year old. Not really listening to anyone else and showing off his chops instead of just playing for the song. I’ve had countless drum students like Shane over the years. They usually figure it out after they’re yelled at enough about their time by other musicians. lol.
Gene Simmons kicking ass. Even when Gene is in casual behavior and relaxed, once the music starts the demon begins to emerge uncontrollably and he always delivers a killer performance.
The kid is going to be a star one day, just like his dad but…..he is forcing it and taking center stage by overplaying when the guy in front of you is Gene Simmons, is just nuts. Shane you need time to be young and time to grow as a musician. You have been exposed and been able to play with some of the best music people in the world. Learn, learn and listen. Your dad would be proud but he would yell at you too for not showing proper respect.
Just because the old boys dont have as much testosterone as the young buck .. they shouldn't wrap him on stage .. let the kid rock out. His old man passed away, hes allowed to ram it, hes young, everyone young did that!
After 50 years of performing in the largest venues in the world countless times, he's obviously very comfortable in the club setting as well and that is awesome. The man is a legend.
The kid needs more experience. I'm sure he can get there. His playing was all over the place especially the snare rolls leading to the guitar solo and to end the song.
Shane needs to cut out the constant fills between songs. Good young drummer, but that is amateur behaviour. And yes, Gene was telling Shane to bring it down-and rightfully so-he was rushing like crazy. Not meaning to be critical of him at all, just some professional advice. ADDED A DAY LATER-I’ve never once said Shane isn’t a good drummer-or potentially a GREAT drummer. He IS. He just needs to learn a few of the musical and behavioural building blocks of being a working pro player, that’s all. I for one hope he goes far and has a great career-he’s a powerhouse of energy-just like his dad was.
@@paulharding706 no, he’s not. I do this for a living-if he intends to proceed into a career in music,, he needs to learn to tighten up. Im not knocking him at all-great young drummer. But it’s a professional no-no.
@glengamble526 don't care if you're professional or not. There's no right or wrong with music. It's preference. What one person likes, another may not. I think he's fine. I like it.
Gene has the skills and experience to assemble a band and artistically develop them to where they could record an album for his resurrected Simmons records label!!!!!
Gene sounds great. Guitar player was spot on. Not sure what the drummer was doing. Maybe he was building a shack back there, idk. Still, would’ve loved to have seen that.
This is REALLY cool! It's easy to forget that Gene Simmons is a musician... he's just a guy who plays music with a band. To see some of his unscripted moves and gestures with the guys in this clip shows him having fun! Thank you for sharing this!
You're very welcome! It was a lot of fun to have Gene come out as a surprise guest. It's a relatively small venue, and it's always great to see legends like this in intimate settings.
Unscripted? Have you seen a KISS show? He's been making the same "unscripted" arm gestures during Deuce for decades. He does the same thing with his solo band now. Also, Gene has readily told other bassists that he thinks he's a shitty player. He's certainly not technical. He does simple things well. I think he'd say he's an entertainer first and a musician second. He's still a rock legend regardless.
It's a great song from the day & cool even though it's a little night club thing....compare it with the old days when it was about 120 decibel level, huge flames & spitting blood haha
Yeah I have to agree with you ,Good Drummers are hard to come by kinda like good vocalist everyone thinks they can sing until you put a mic in their face and a crowd in front.of them then everything changes well except the ego problem that never stops.
He’s 16. Will be 17 in August, but yes you’re right. He’s young and full of energy. He tends to uptempo the songs naturally and I think Gene consistently redirecting him to lower the tempo kind of threw him for a bit of a loop, but it’s all good. Lessons from a great. Every good musician needs moments like this to continue developing their skills. ❤
SAW THEM LIVE ABOUT '75 OR '76! BACK WHEN THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY UP AND HADN'T STARTED PLAY THE "COMMERICAL ROCK" THAT GOT THEM FAMOUS. THEY WERE YOUNG AND GREAT!
@@johnhead6116 HA! AMAZING! I ALSO SAW A LOCAL BAND AND THEY PLAYED IN LOCALS BARS AND I WAS A YOUNG BEGINNING GUITARIST AND WHILE ON BREAK IN THIS SMALL BAR AND VERY FEW PEOPLE THERE, I WENT BACK TO THE BREAK ROOM AND "TOY" SHOWED ME AND LET ME PICK HIS LES PAUL GUITAR...ABOUT A YEAR LATER THEY GOT THEIR BREAK WITH CAPRICORN RECORDING..... THEY ARE WELL KNOWN: *THE MARSHALL TUCKER BAND*
@@mooch514 yes. When someone has a different opinion you should assume they are dealing with some deep-seated frustration and in need of professional help. 🤣 I just noticed that Gene's improvisations were random and out of key. That's all. No reason to get all worked up.
I have no idea why these legends like Gene have agreed to play a gig like this. I know from the comments that the drummer is a teenager but his skill level is just not there yet. The tempo goes all over the place and Gene has an embarrassed awkward smile on his face the whole time.
Loved Gene’s grisly bass tone , can tell me what was the pedal on the floor that was adjusted to get his sound over driving the Ampeg just before the song started?
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Gene is a Legend, toured for 50 years yet shows up at a small club and jams away!
A legendary tool
I've been following kiss from the very beginning 51 years ago this is the first time I've ever seen Gene play a Fender bass
First thing I saw.
Damn, that drummer’s timing is more erratic than Peter’s coke and booze-fueled drumming on the Dynasty tour…
Harsh man, he is a kid
That’s Taylor Hawkins son
Okay. Frick. I'll admit.
THAT was absolutely SMOKING!
You can tell even Gene was impressed and having a good time.
He is trying to slow down the drummer who changes the tempo constantly. I don’t think Gene is doing this again any time soon.
@@kobbetop you’re a midi reader!!!
People often forget how amazing bass player Gene Simmons actually is. He is very good. And he still has the voice despite the age (unlike Paul Stanley).
No… he’s not a great player but he is a rock star. And that’s ok. They call him Doctor Love 😎
Awesome to see Gene can still sing and play live!! Respect!!!
OMG, holy sht! No fkn way! Dayum dude, chill.
How cool was that, Gene Simmons shows up to a concert and joins in? 🤘🏼😝🎸
Thank you for capturing this! So much going on here!
You’re very welcome! It was such a fun show!
That’s old school kick ass rock right there. Raw and in your face. Gene is kicking ass and still bringing it. Nice Fender P Bass.
one of the last true stadium rock stars still out and enjoying jamming in a small club ... go Gene... been listening since it all started.
Who is the guitar player with the black les paul
His name is Brent Woods
This is Gene at his best
Yeah, the drummer... that looks like one of those drum sets that the Beach Boys used back in the early sixties
Gene looks great.
Gene has his own bass tone... And he keeps his voice ageless... Great performer!!!
great version!
God of Thunder ⚡️🎼🎶🖤 🙌
The drummer needs to listen to Alive I - no swing or feel to his playing.
Give him a break, he's just a teenager and will have time to learn. I seriously doubt he's even listened to Alive I. While most kids his age are still growing pubes, he's playing with a rock icon and other professional musicians.
It sounds and appears to me that he's in this band because of who his dad was, not because he's the new chopmaster general. My ears tell me Taylor should have gotten him a metronome for his 8th birthday. But hey - it's only rock and roll not saving the world so what the hell it doesn't sound that great it's still fun.
Gene's band plays and sounds better than Ace Frehley's band
What's ironic is that Ace's solo band used to be Gene's solo band. Gene actually recommended them to Ace. I've heard them multiple times and they can play. They know Ace's solo and KISS' songs, even the more obscure ones, backwards and forwards.
Sadly, I think Ace is dragging _them down_ a bit. His playing has seriously declined, his vocals are tired and not energetic, and he moves around at about 0.75 speed now. It kills me to say it because I'm a big Ace fan, but he's getting shows now because of his name only. It certainly isn't because of his playing ability.
@@TH-cam.Algorithmic.Nonsense it's okay to say it I've been saying it for the last 10 years I'm a die-hard kiss fan love every member and lineup but Ace is living off his past. And you're exactly right he's gotten to the point where he is bringing good musicians down.
LOVE GENE DRUMMER CALM DOWN
It was painful listening to the drummer. With experience the drummer will learn to listen to the vocalist of whatever band he is in and if the singer is struggling to keep up with the lyrics it’s too fast and if the singer is hanging to long to a word it’s too slow. A young guy getting caught up in the emotion and adrenaline pushing him past the point of tempo. Still it’s all good!! It’s still worth the $1000 he paid Gene to do the show.
Is that Waddy Wechtell on lead guitar? Curious minds ya know.
It's Wiley Hodgden, though his hair is a bit Waddy-like
its like 1975 all over again BRILLIANT
glad to see Gene was enjoying himself again
FANTASTIC
Gene looks good with a Fender p bass
I feel Hawkins questioned whether to play slower, or softer in his head. Sure he was playing fast, & loud but if that happens you just go with it. Then again, Gene is much older now and probably prefers a more steady pace for singing. The kid is 16 years old (I think don’t quote me) and has lots of talent. Any band would be very lucky to have him.
100% also we don't know if he's heard the song before or how much time they had to rehearse it plus he's got that energy.
Lol
He’s awful.
He’s 16… definitely has lots of potential. Awful? Nah.. y’all must be old AF to be hating on a young drummer. 😂
@@Ozkar1989 I am a young drummer. He’s awful.
Gobsmacked. F'real. Dang!
The guy talking right at the end reminds me of Robert Plant in his Led Zeppelin days
Love the drummer behind the bass rig😂
Gene got the itch!
FUCKING COOL
Come down there drummer...
he should wear the makeup and costume and play with other bands who are not wearing any of it - thatd be hilarious
Cool Ass he is🤘Love Gene🖤
How much are these guys paying Gene to be on stage with him😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Its nice to see Jack Black showed up just to roadie
80 year ole in Faulk leather pants!!lol.
Calma calma hawkins 😂
That drummer needs to seriously work on his internal metronome
Tempos good. Got some energy, doesnt drag.
😅😂
50 year's worth of material and he still chooses the same ten songs,so far beyond boring that it's laughable.
love guitarists that nail that Deuce solo. true fans!
I'm sure drummer is a nice guy but...cardinal sin of drummers is to speed up tempo when doing fills. Lock into the tempo and the song will have more power.
If you go back and listen to KISS during the Carr/Kulick era they sped up the old songs big time!!
Poor guy was shot out of a cannon excited I'm sure. Gene was working him the whole song to slow down. He did fine. And tempo shifts are what make rock n roll... Stewart Copeland shifts tempo like crazy, and people think he's a pretty ok drummer.
@@SiloSoundStudios You're comparing apples and pizza. Deuce does not have any tempo or time signature changes in it. There's a difference between playing ahead or behind the beat and what took place it this vid. Also, if Stewart is going to change tempo in a song like this ot would for sure be planned. This is not a free form jam song where stuff like tempo changes randomly happen. It's simple meat n potatoes rock. To be fair, please cite the Stewart Copeland song you were referring. Cheers.
@@medievaltimes6473 ummmmm. Can't stand losing you. He's just excited and Gene is trying, and doing a great job btw, of pulling him down and getting him into the pocket.
Young drummer was too busy before the song and very inconsistent on speed. That was awful. That’s job #1
Funny how Gene was trying to slow them down through the whole song 😂
Naw just crap drummer.
I don’t think he was trying to slow them down. They think he was trying to get them to settle down and lock in.
@@EjSinner13 which may very well happen at the same time :)
@@AndreGWolfMN wouldn’t it be cool if we could ask Gene personally what he meant? Haha
Peace out
@@EjSinner13 No matter what he meant, he's a cool guy :)
That drummer needs a click
Getting to play with an original member of KISS is beyond crazy awesome
It's good still seeing and hearing Gene up there. Cool band too.
Gene was curious how much the door took in and what would be his split with the band members.
Gene seemed pretty chill & obviously there for fans.
He stalled at the beginning to make time to set up his own merch table out front!
Not being rude I've been playing drums for over 50 years that drummer needs a click track
His time was definitely all over the place. But I imagine the chance to play with Gene Simmons spiked his adrenaline super high. You can even tell before they started playing, he had all this nervous energy. A chance of a lifetime.
No worse than Peter Criss on most nights 🤣
Peters meter was fine…he just played everything fast! This guy is all over the place.
The kid needs lessons. Too much bashy with no control.
Yeah. He’s 17 and plays every bit like an excited 17 year old. Not really listening to anyone else and showing off his chops instead of just playing for the song.
I’ve had countless drum students like Shane over the years. They usually figure it out after they’re yelled at enough about their time by other musicians. lol.
Gene Simmons kicking ass. Even when Gene is in casual behavior and relaxed, once the music starts the demon begins to emerge uncontrollably and he always delivers a killer performance.
The kid is going to be a star one day, just like his dad but…..he is forcing it and taking center stage by overplaying when the guy in front of you is Gene Simmons, is just nuts. Shane you need time to be young and time to grow as a musician. You have been exposed and been able to play with some of the best music people in the world. Learn, learn and listen. Your dad would be proud but he would yell at you too for not showing proper respect.
Gene you need to dump the leathers 😂
whats with the Drummer ? so off and fast
Gene tried multiple times to get the drummer to chill just a touch but that obviously didn’t work, lol.
Gene still sounds great voice and bass lines
Just because the old boys dont have as much testosterone as the young buck .. they shouldn't wrap him on stage .. let the kid rock out. His old man passed away, hes allowed to ram it, hes young, everyone young did that!
After 50 years of performing in the largest venues in the world countless times, he's obviously very comfortable in the club setting as well and that is awesome. The man is a legend.
And he slept with over 3,000 women, vd is bad.
The kid needs more experience. I'm sure he can get there. His playing was all over the place especially the snare rolls leading to the guitar solo and to end the song.
I’m Sure, he hasn’t even heard this song before
@@ricksurratt9034 did he tell you that?
@@sinnernik I guess I’m not sure but it’s irrelevant
This a musicians dream . How few people can say they've played with Gene Simmons.
Absolutely!
I saw kiss 1976 in Cali... great thrill for these kids ... and gene plays bass very well ... 👍
A lot of women can say that. though....
Shane needs to cut out the constant fills between songs. Good young drummer, but that is amateur behaviour. And yes, Gene was telling Shane to bring it down-and rightfully so-he was rushing like crazy. Not meaning to be critical of him at all, just some professional advice.
ADDED A DAY LATER-I’ve never once said Shane isn’t a good drummer-or potentially a GREAT drummer. He IS. He just needs to learn a few of the musical and behavioural building blocks of being a working pro player, that’s all. I for one hope he goes far and has a great career-he’s a powerhouse of energy-just like his dad was.
He's fine.
@@paulharding706 no, he’s not. I do this for a living-if he intends to proceed into a career in music,, he needs to learn to tighten up. Im not knocking him at all-great young drummer. But it’s a professional no-no.
@glengamble526 don't care if you're professional or not. There's no right or wrong with music. It's preference. What one person likes, another may not. I think he's fine. I like it.
@@paulharding706 Spoken by a true amateur.
Think whatever you want. Cheers!
Eddie trunk stated the same too on his show....just a teenager. You harped on a teen😮DA
Drummers motto, "who need to come back in on the One Beat."
That would help him 😊
Aw c'mon, give the guy a break. nerves, playing live. Everyone makes little mistakes. The sign of good musicians is that they picked up and sorted it.
@@leth9320 he played for a lot of years. You know if he can play with Dave Grohl being the drummer that he is pretty dope he’s good.
@@leth9320for sure
@@Wasteoftime10 where can I find this elusive "one" and why does the band keep asking me about it?
Gene has the skills and experience to assemble a band and artistically develop them to where they could record an album for his resurrected Simmons records label!!!!!
That was so cool! Thanks for posting!!!
That band needs a drum machine
That drummer is painful to listen to...LOL.
Gene sounds great. Guitar player was spot on. Not sure what the drummer was doing. Maybe he was building a shack back there, idk. Still, would’ve loved to have seen that.
How cool was that? Imagine your cover band is playing in a club and Gene Simmons asks if he can sit in on a Kiss song. WOW.
Get a better drummer. Count to four son!
This is REALLY cool! It's easy to forget that Gene Simmons is a musician... he's just a guy who plays music with a band. To see some of his unscripted moves and gestures with the guys in this clip shows him having fun!
Thank you for sharing this!
You're very welcome! It was a lot of fun to have Gene come out as a surprise guest. It's a relatively small venue, and it's always great to see legends like this in intimate settings.
Unscripted? Have you seen a KISS show? He's been making the same "unscripted" arm gestures during Deuce for decades. He does the same thing with his solo band now. Also, Gene has readily told other bassists that he thinks he's a shitty player. He's certainly not technical. He does simple things well. I think he'd say he's an entertainer first and a musician second. He's still a rock legend regardless.
The kid needs a lot of practice. But that’s what this is right ? If he keeps practicing with legends he’ll be alright .
It's a great song from the day & cool even though it's a little night club thing....compare it with the old days when it was about 120 decibel level, huge flames & spitting blood haha
Has he taken his old Davy Crockett wig out of mothballs? It appears so.
I've been having the same problem with drummers for 45 years
Yeah I have to agree with you ,Good Drummers are hard to come by kinda like good vocalist everyone thinks they can sing until you put a mic in their face and a crowd in front.of them then everything changes well except the ego problem that never stops.
Your name only gets you so far, I don't consider myself good but I could play that song,intime, Alive 1,in my sleep
That drummer needs to GO!!!!!
The drummer is Shane Hawkins. Taylor Hawkins 16 year old son. He is just young and playing with pros.
Don’t care who he is, he sucks.
And it's all a good time fills and all
He's 17
He’s 16. Will be 17 in August, but yes you’re right. He’s young and full of energy. He tends to uptempo the songs naturally and I think Gene consistently redirecting him to lower the tempo kind of threw him for a bit of a loop, but it’s all good. Lessons from a great. Every good musician needs moments like this to continue developing their skills. ❤
@@Elizabeth-ic4yr Shane Hawkins is born 4th august 2006. Start counting
SAW THEM LIVE ABOUT '75 OR '76! BACK WHEN THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY UP AND HADN'T STARTED PLAY THE "COMMERICAL ROCK" THAT GOT THEM FAMOUS.
THEY WERE YOUNG AND GREAT!
I saw them in 1977 or 78 , with a little known opening act - Van Halen. Both were off the charts insane.
@@johnhead6116 HA! AMAZING! I ALSO SAW A LOCAL BAND AND THEY PLAYED IN LOCALS BARS AND I WAS A YOUNG BEGINNING GUITARIST AND WHILE ON BREAK IN THIS SMALL BAR AND VERY FEW PEOPLE THERE, I WENT BACK TO THE BREAK ROOM AND "TOY" SHOWED ME AND LET ME PICK HIS LES PAUL GUITAR...ABOUT A YEAR LATER THEY GOT THEIR BREAK WITH CAPRICORN RECORDING..... THEY ARE WELL KNOWN:
*THE MARSHALL TUCKER BAND*
DEUCE 1992 REVENGE TOUR Eric Singer on 🥁 BEST version the song EVER sounded!
Being a teenager back in the 70' s you had not lived until you had your eyebrows singed off at a KISS concert 💋
Big KISS and no, Shane didn't "nail" the drums on this, but he played with Gene Simmons at just 17 years old. What were you losers doing at that age?
Gene can sing and play still very well
Turrible!
I guess we watched two different performances. 😆
@@BiblicalMuse just another hater! Why? Gene here plays and sings well. Whats the problem? You frustrated?
@@mooch514 yes. When someone has a different opinion you should assume they are dealing with some deep-seated frustration and in need of professional help. 🤣
I just noticed that Gene's improvisations were random and out of key. That's all. No reason to get all worked up.
FUCK'N AWESOME !!!!!
🤘😎🤘🌴☀️🔥🎸🔥🎸🔥🎸
Q: what did the drummer get on his S.A.T?
A: drool
* A drummer told me that one
Love how Gene’s amp is turned up.
It’s a great bassline
Don't know what everyone's moaning about.. that was pretty good.
Gene playing a Precision 0:43 Bass???!!! So right!
I have no idea why these legends like Gene have agreed to play a gig like this. I know from the comments that the drummer is a teenager but his skill level is just not there yet. The tempo goes all over the place and Gene has an embarrassed awkward smile on his face the whole time.
All that random playing while Gene is trying to get set up is so unnecessary. He's obviously got a lot to learn
I think the drummer may have learned the tune 5 minutes before playing it. Way too rushed.
He’s 16 so maybe
Your drummer stinks playing too fast and Gene even knows it
they keep rushing him. sounds like shit. not gene's fault at all
Loved Gene’s grisly bass tone , can tell me what was the pedal on the floor that was adjusted to get his sound over driving the Ampeg just before the song started?
He’s a child.
No, literally. He’s a teenager. Still learning. Might need to do HS band a bit more.
nice wig
Mr. Virgo ♍️ still got some Juice 🥤 😢😮😅😊
That might have been the first time Shane ever played Deuce. Give him a break :)
Gene sounds great, drummer got a bit excited
If you're going to post this, please EQ it!
All HAIL THE DEMON!
Man that took a while to get started