How To Use Secondary Dominants

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  • @joshuagodinez5867
    @joshuagodinez5867 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    Heh. Just had this discussion with my music teacher a couple weeks ago. I'm like, "So the secondary dominant is changing to a new key. We're modulating". And he's like "Whoa. No, we're just borrowing the chord and playing something non-diatonic for one bar". And I'm like "But we're really just in another key for a sec and then returning to the original key". And he's like "No, no. Yes, you can use it to go to another key, but since you're continuing in the original key you're really just borrowing the chord". And I'm like "What?" so he's like "Look, it sounds good so that's why we do it". And of course I have to be like "Okay, then this weird chord that isn't in the original or secondary key sounds good to me". And he's like "Fine. Play what sounds good, but that's not how people generally do it". Then I whipped off my mask and said "Ha! It's Paul McCartney! I've been here the entire time!"

    • @neolid1051
      @neolid1051 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @joshuagodinez5867 lol you should’ve ended with “I got blisters on me fingers you while you teaching this bolocks!”

    • @ComplexConfiguration
      @ComplexConfiguration หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Borrowed chords usually relate to parallel minor or major versions of the key you're playing in actually.
      If you want to modulate, All you really gotta do is stay on that secondary dominant as an example and emphasize it for a while and start playing in that key. Now you have modulated to that key. If you return to the original key promptly however and are playing chords and melody in that key. You have not modulated.
      You have just as they say, tonicized the secondary dominant briefly before returning to be within key without it sounding "out of key".
      You COULD call it a temporary mini modulation I guess.
      But the main thing to understand here is that it fits in with the original key, and you resolve it within the original key.
      "We" don't call it modulation unless you actually modulate to this new key and it becomes THE tonic henceforth and for a longer while at the very least, meaning you won't be playing the same notes/melody and chords/harmony before you modulated, because you'll have modulated to a different key.
      And also, I try chords on for a size all the time that I have no idea of if they are in key or whatever..
      But that doesn't mean you can't get a whole lot more out of writing down your diatonic and parallels, and dominants / secondary dominants, and think about modulating to the dominant or whatever .. whatever you come up with, there is a music theory "reason" for why it works. Paul McCartney included.
      Chords that are used to modulate to another key are referred to as pivot chords..

  • @speelbergoMF
    @speelbergoMF หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Dude, this is phenomenal
    You managed to teach in one minute what others aren’t able to do in an hour

    • @genewilliams617
      @genewilliams617 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correction:
      That's a dudette!!!!! As in female!!!! Young lady!!!!!
      AND she is very pretty!!!

    • @speelbergoMF
      @speelbergoMF 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@genewilliams617 simp…

  • @charliekowittmusic
    @charliekowittmusic 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I’m a full-time musician and music educator and this was a freaking masterclass.
    Going to steal 80% of this for my lessons! Thank you!

    • @supakow
      @supakow 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Nobody knows you when you're down and out" is a brilliant, accessible place to start teaching this and nobody plays it better than Clapton; th-cam.com/video/DE2JQp4okao/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Zj-IBSiQqrbu6pQ1

  • @contrabone10
    @contrabone10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I’m a Harmony teacher at Berklee College of Music. What a perfect description of secondary dominants!

  • @reghunt2487
    @reghunt2487 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    music theory doesn't direct you, it explains why your ear wants what it wants. saves a lot of effort actually.

    • @unclemick-synths
      @unclemick-synths หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agreed 👍 I wish more people understood this. Music is the dog, theory is the tail even though some people think it's the other way round!

    • @vtnatureboy
      @vtnatureboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@unclemick-synthsalso agree. In no universe did music theory come before practice.

    • @baplotnik
      @baplotnik หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both you and this video make no sense

    • @reghunt2487
      @reghunt2487 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@baplotnik but your reply does?

    • @baplotnik
      @baplotnik หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reghunt2487 yeah whats so hard to understand about it lol

  • @picknngrinn
    @picknngrinn หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You've got a gift there for laying things out in an unusual and engaging manner.
    In other words...thank you! I've never thought of secondary dominants quite this way!

  • @Alex-tm4th
    @Alex-tm4th หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    As a single dad I finally get the recognition of being a mom all while trying to watch a video on guitar chords.
    Neat.

  • @crazydiamond3403
    @crazydiamond3403 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a middle child and the only musician in my family
    I relate to this video so much 😂😂
    And I'd like to experiment with different voicings
    | G/C G#/E7 | Am9 Bb/C7 | A/Fmaj7 A/D7 F#m7b5 | B/G G7 |
    The A/D7 to F#m7b5 is to be played for a single beat each

  • @bingchillins
    @bingchillins 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love those inlays

  • @kaiusna5515
    @kaiusna5515 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It is always a pleasure to be on your page and watch each of your videos, in each of them you learn something different, new and in an understandable and accessible way. Congratulations and thanks for everything.

  • @chrismaghintay
    @chrismaghintay หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This hit at the perfect time! I'm trying to memorize all my secondary dominants. Figured out how to easily find them on the neck, but I wanna commit the names to memory.

    • @vtnatureboy
      @vtnatureboy หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the names of the secondary dominants are the same as the dominants.

  • @Marginal391
    @Marginal391 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's a musician and an actor in the same time.
    Thank you 👍🙂

  • @EasyAsPiePiano
    @EasyAsPiePiano 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You okay beautifully. Great lesson ❤. Love your mic too! Sounds amazing

  • @Sronmars_Den
    @Sronmars_Den 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just found this and I love it! 🙂 You have a gift for teaching. 🙃

  • @BloodyShedProductions
    @BloodyShedProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So confusing yet also insightful

  • @chrisguitarpiano1348
    @chrisguitarpiano1348 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Sidenote - I'm always telling pupils to use fingers 2, 3 + 4 to make a G when moving to/from F, for a quicker transition.

  • @DarrellW_UK
    @DarrellW_UK หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting, I knew about borrowed chords but didn’t think about them being secondary dominants until you’ve done this 😂

    • @LessonsWithLindy
      @LessonsWithLindy  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're right for thinking about them this way, actually! I'm making a longer video on this soon...there's technically a difference between Secondary Dominants and borrowed chords. secondary dominants a sub catagory of borrowed chords. The strategy of Borrowed Chords casts a much wider net than secondary dominant.

    • @DarrellW_UK
      @DarrellW_UK หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LessonsWithLindy thanks, I thought it must have because I have actually used borrowed chords that aren’t dominants, I was beginning to doubt myself 😆. I just used the old thought that if it sounds good it is good 👍🏼

    • @vtnatureboy
      @vtnatureboy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LessonsWithLindyGlad you clarified that.

  • @genewilliams617
    @genewilliams617 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done young lady!

  • @tirx1210
    @tirx1210 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is so useful! Thank you!!

  • @brianjdillon
    @brianjdillon 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a nuclear physicist who majored in jazz at the prestigious (and now defunct) Jebidiah Hornswaggler Jazz University in 1931 and trans mommy of 2 adopted squids that both absolutely loath theory, this made both of them love studying theory so much they ran out into the middle of the busy intersection outside of our moon colony and get struck instantly by a speeding unmanned Amazon Sedan 29E!
    I can't thank you enough! What a breath of fresh air for such stuffy subject matter!

  • @buzzstankos8532
    @buzzstankos8532 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are an awesome teacher and that is the best
    explanation - EVER! Thank you very much

  • @Someone-lc6dc
    @Someone-lc6dc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, I know this is about secondary dominants, but I just wanted to say that I find your voice and accent really quite beautiful. I’m European and English isn’t my first language but it was my major, and I do love the sound of your accent. Now, if only I could grasp all the nuances of music theory!

  • @nicchan11
    @nicchan11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, this helped me to understa secondary dominants so easily. Thank you for the video

  • @Thisisme-Jim
    @Thisisme-Jim หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re communication skills are just as good if not better than your music skills, love your content

  • @distrologic2925
    @distrologic2925 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super interesting and I love learning from you 😂

  • @jukesjointOG
    @jukesjointOG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alright, I’m in. Subbed!

  • @Shadowshamer
    @Shadowshamer หลายเดือนก่อน

    May actually be THE best explanation of secondary dominants I've heard. Even down to the XBox.

  • @ThomasB_N4G
    @ThomasB_N4G 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess I should’ve watched the whole video. 😁 “secondary dominant.” I’m learning.

  • @NikolaNovak
    @NikolaNovak 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks!

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, nice exercise in how to tie together a sneaky key change.

  • @RussSternglassDrums
    @RussSternglassDrums 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great lesson!

  • @jrkoosh
    @jrkoosh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That mf'n tonic always gaslighting me!!!

  • @KaltOhm
    @KaltOhm หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an awesome explanation of this concept. I finally got it 😊🎉

  • @JazzStrat781
    @JazzStrat781 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video 👍🎸 best to you

  • @claytonvolner5950
    @claytonvolner5950 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can also borrow chords from other keys that aren’t the secondary dominant. Like in a minor key you can use a major V7 instead of a minor v7 because it’s borrowing from the harmonic minor scale to get that natural 7th interval. Feel free to try it out. And if you want an extra cool chord try a V7 with a major 3rd (of the chord) and a minor 3rd (of the chord). It’s a neat chord.

    • @vtnatureboy
      @vtnatureboy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coupla things: using a V7 (in a minor key G7 in cm for example) is not borrowing. They call it the “harmonic” minor scale because it is used for “harmony,” the creation of chords. G7 is not a borrowed chord in c minor. Likewise, the melodic minor scale is used for - you guessed it, melody. So, the raised 6th and 7th of that scale are not dissonant in a minor key (a natural and b natural in cm for example). Using a minor dominant in a minor key (g minor chord in c minor key) is a “modal” use of the chord. The concept of secondary dominants only applies to”tonal” harmony (as opposed to modal harmony). The major scale is also a mode - yes, I know, and thus begins another discussion on influence of the tri-tone in western classical music.

  • @skpince
    @skpince หลายเดือนก่อน

    Music theory is theory as it is written such. Music is what is listened to by us humans. Theory guides, the ear, the heart and the brain decides.

  • @jwhitty14
    @jwhitty14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent

  • @MattnUska
    @MattnUska 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It makes it sound like you’re going on a carefree adventure.

  • @Mr.Twister007
    @Mr.Twister007 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    D’Angelico! Clever Girl…❤

  • @sgtcaco
    @sgtcaco 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you listen to enough hendrixband Greg koch, you will soon learn that dominant 7ths can be used pretty much everywhere and especially chromatically, There are no rules at all with them.

  • @midnightgreen20
    @midnightgreen20 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That first example doesn't demonstrate secondary dominants. Am is the relative minor to C, so going from C to E7 means you were in A harmonic minor the whole time. This is better demonstrated when the parental keys of the 1st and 3rd chord are different.

    • @vtnatureboy
      @vtnatureboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In order to establish a key, or tonal center, typically, you need a dominant/tonic relationship. Or, as is the case here, the ear will hear the C major chord first and that is its (the ear’s) tonal center - albeit momentarily. moving to E7 creates an ambiguity although our ear expects a minor to follow (which it does). Only at that time could you say you are in a minor (as opposed to being in a minor all along). The ear just won’t hear it that way.

  • @reghunt2487
    @reghunt2487 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job 👍

  • @KimchiSpringRoll
    @KimchiSpringRoll หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know you are doing a great job teaching us the theory and why the theory in a smart, fun and engaging way but I'm truly sorry that I still didn't get it lol I know this will improve my chord melody journey but sometimes things don't click or they don't click as fast as I would like them to lol

  • @KanzenJisatsuManyuar
    @KanzenJisatsuManyuar หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your Deangelico, good lesson.

  • @kvlkar
    @kvlkar หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a degree in music, idk why I'm watching this.
    Very well explained though!

  • @TimBoykinGuitar
    @TimBoykinGuitar หลายเดือนก่อน

    Top notch. 👍

  • @kwgm8578
    @kwgm8578 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a pretty guitar. Pretty young lady, too, but I'm not supposed to notice. I like your guitar, Lindy. That's a lot of good information in a short video.

  • @mrnogot4251
    @mrnogot4251 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am now interested in secondary dominants

  • @ramonacosta2647
    @ramonacosta2647 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Secondary dominants are overused. Try using secondary subdominants. I find that they sound especially good when played after the tonicized chord.

  • @brandoncostner7437
    @brandoncostner7437 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing

  • @dmz140
    @dmz140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great little lesson! Think about where the music is going! Lead the listener to the next thing(chord). Thanks! Subscribing!

  • @panthersfly
    @panthersfly หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video! Subscribed!

  • @SohamBhattacharya3105
    @SohamBhattacharya3105 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed!

  • @darrinvickers5949
    @darrinvickers5949 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool!

  • @peterpowder8546
    @peterpowder8546 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicely done 👍

  • @mateuszkorus300
    @mateuszkorus300 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very cool video. I just wish it wasn't vertical, but I'm a boomer

  • @mariaclara15527
    @mariaclara15527 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was so helpfull. Tsm!!!!

  • @jaredwilliams1031
    @jaredwilliams1031 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't you also change chord quality to change keys (like change Amin7 to A7), or is that always just a parallel change/borrowed chords? I have heard that parallel key changes don't really work as key changes and I have had a hard time making it sound like a transition when experimenting.

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do some Trower or Malmsteen ? ✨🎸✨☮️🇺🇸🏄🏽‍♀️

  • @peeledapples4176
    @peeledapples4176 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was total gibberish to me, but it sounds cool!

  • @blaineburnie6890
    @blaineburnie6890 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ❤❤❤

  • @CrazyAuntJoey
    @CrazyAuntJoey 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thats neat. Does it chug though?

  • @Kicks001
    @Kicks001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have no idea what I just watched. I got some catching up to do !

  • @russallen2011
    @russallen2011 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dope

  • @MattGabel
    @MattGabel หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was really cool and all but I still have no idea what you did

  • @HudsonValleyBlues
    @HudsonValleyBlues หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🎸💙!

  • @Will-Max
    @Will-Max หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't get it, you're still starting on the C, so isn't C still the tonic?

  • @FuelAirSparkTime
    @FuelAirSparkTime 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey, it is my turn on the xbox though hand it over.

  • @ThomasMetal75
    @ThomasMetal75 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    U rule!😊

  • @humanseekingtruth6080
    @humanseekingtruth6080 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m so glad I didn’t learn music theory before learning an instrument, I would trapped in this box, instead just playing what sounds good to me. 😂

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ana_crusis But it is SO right

    • @Ana_crusis
      @Ana_crusis 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​​​@@humanseekingtruth6080
      no it's not it's a little myth people think, (or rather some of people think not everybody).
      Knowing music theory does nothing but expand your ability to create new and interesting music.
      Music theory doesn't trap anybody in a box only your own mind does that.
      You won't find people in other arts saying things like that. You won't find painters saying I'm glad I didn't learn how different types of paint work and how to mix oils or use watercolours.
      You won't find potters saying I'm glad I didn't have a teacher who showed me how to throw pots or taught me about the different temperatures for firing them and how to use a kiln...

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ana_crusis You should really learn to recognize a joke

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ana_crusis And that’s your opinion. My father learned music theory in school and college, but he instead plays what sounds good to him.

    • @humanseekingtruth6080
      @humanseekingtruth6080 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ana_crusis Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers expressed being happy that he leaned to play by ear first, before learning music theory.

  • @E.Bernay
    @E.Bernay 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Secondary dominant isn't a concept of music theory?

  • @RMS-us4hx
    @RMS-us4hx หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎭🎭💯💯💯💯sounds like a plan

  • @cry2love
    @cry2love 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Music theory cannot tell me what to do with my chords cuz we don't know each other 😂

  • @jimtessin4130
    @jimtessin4130 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi🙂

  • @FoghornLeghorn-fn4gd
    @FoghornLeghorn-fn4gd 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    U do purty muzik

  • @randomserb761
    @randomserb761 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It took me a while to make the XBOX-mom aphorism click in my head 🥴

  • @ClayShentrup
    @ClayShentrup 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why do you call these 7th chords when they're actually _dominant_ 7th chords?

  • @birchthebirch4593
    @birchthebirch4593 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You look like penny lane from always famous

  • @oldjarhead386
    @oldjarhead386 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No, that’s not what I was thinking.

  • @OrangeMonkey2112
    @OrangeMonkey2112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It all sounds good, but my secondary dominant found out about my primary dominant…..let’s just say…it was a bad night 🤔 💋💋💋💋💋

  • @matt926uk1
    @matt926uk1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lerned me some moosic

  • @LeoMrz
    @LeoMrz หลายเดือนก่อน

    is being the middle child the reason I didn’t get music lessons?

  • @freealien5586
    @freealien5586 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Relative minor is what a minor is to C

  • @nicktrageser5662
    @nicktrageser5662 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Doesn’t explain why the E wouldn’t be an E minor 7. The sound is good but she skipped a few steps in theory and jumped into harmonic minor.

    • @chrisguitarpiano1348
      @chrisguitarpiano1348 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She mentions it's the dominant 7 of Am, so therefore it will be major chord with a minor 7th by design. Good to not overload people upfront with music theory.

    • @vtnatureboy
      @vtnatureboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure this makes sense. Why wouldn’t she use an E7? Yes, e minor is the iii of C major, but that is the whole point of secondary dominants - harmonic variety and adventure. You know what a sequence is, right? Simply the cycle of fifths - which is, ahem, a cycle of secondary dominants.

  • @rexchiquine6049
    @rexchiquine6049 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ,,,gee sven cee maj,,,

  • @johnscott2076
    @johnscott2076 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Minors should never be allowed to have a tonic, especially with gin

  • @sirtorchington
    @sirtorchington หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’M THE MOM!

  • @Tandle779
    @Tandle779 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Current year, hot chicks teach you mainstream music theory for songwriting on guitar. Capitalism is literally doing everything in its power to squeeze the last inch of entertainment out of us. I don't know about this reality...

  • @BirdIsTheTurd
    @BirdIsTheTurd 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You lost me at C7

  • @Driftuner
    @Driftuner หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, Im the mom?! F*ck...

  • @MrKenstar2
    @MrKenstar2 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im just gonna say a bunch of shit and hope you buy it!

  • @johncopeland3826
    @johncopeland3826 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just play the guitar for fun and relaxation ...not for it to frazzle my brain . But that's just me .....

  • @jimbaxter8488
    @jimbaxter8488 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bla bla bla….Relative minor chord …Bla bla bla

  • @TheCloudek
    @TheCloudek 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep going and working hard to improve your talents and always walk with God! 🌱🐢
    God loves you and created you for great things. God bless you and your family.
    "10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.".
    Ephesians 2:10.
    Read, please: Romans 10:8-13.
    *To be saved you need to be born again*
    God loves you and wants to change your life. 😊

  • @axe2Mummy
    @axe2Mummy 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Music theory sucks , kinda like your playing

  • @supremelordoftheuniverse5449
    @supremelordoftheuniverse5449 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This microphone makes it impossible to listen to the video

  • @johnscott2076
    @johnscott2076 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you just mention a sexbox?

  • @jaywells791
    @jaywells791 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really an obnoxious person

  • @riddickriddick9520
    @riddickriddick9520 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yet the most interesting guitarists wouldn't know what on Earth you are on about... so much for that!

  • @jandavidcarrillo8860
    @jandavidcarrillo8860 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're amazing 🥹