Fifty years in the future? December 2064? Yeah, I'll go with the robot. Probably. Then again, I'll be 98 years old, so I might need the best in the world to keep me healthy.
I'd take the robot in the future, because I think it would most likely be set up so that 1 surgeon could overlook 10-20 procedures at a time. That way, if something did go wrong, I'm sure there'd be a qualified surgeon on hand to step in. Of course, on a spaceship or something, we may have to take our chances with just the robot.
i had a Da Vinci Robotic Colectomy lats week. i have 5 1-inch incisions and 1 4-inch main incision. they removed 10 inches of my Colon and I am almost back to normal already!!!
New skills for surgeons about controlling such robots will be definitely needed, but the future of surgery should be about a balance between the human touch and such technologies.
I'll take the robotic surgeon hands down . I have worked in automation for six years and have built some. Once the automation is nailed down , it's absolutely correct every single time ... even when you're tired ...
If everyone prefers robotic surgeons, what would it happen to any human surgeons in the future? would there be no 'surgeon' job any more? I guess the biomedical engineers are going to flourish over surgeons if the surgical robots are widely spread and everyone could easily and cheaply use it. Nice channel. I just found this channel, what an interesting channel !
I think human surgeons will still hold for some time, as trainers and operators of robotic surgeons, as well as serving on a standby, should an operation go off the rails and robot lack protocols for it.
WOW! nope I don't think so.. any surgeon/human could make a mistake, however i would much rather take a chance with a human doctor than a computer frequently as they have glitches, moments of being frozen and unresponsive.. nope i'm old school and it'll stay that way
I'd take a human surgeon- for now, that is. It's just going to take a lot more research and development to make the robot do it as good or better human surgeons. Eventually, yes I'd want a robot surgeon they won't make any mistakes, etc, just I don't know if 50 years is enough to make one that is good enough/how they'll be then. I think there was a time people didn't trust a computer to do calculations, now we totally trust our spreadsheets rather than a human computer (computer meaning a person who does math in this case) the brain may work faster than a computer, but it's not as accurate and more error-prone. Another thing is what if the robot breaks down/files get corrupt, a circuit blows in the middle of the surgery, you'd need another robot to take over for the rest of it.
Indeed, most computers are nothing but human's perfected to the 99.99% tile. That means an avg computer is definitely way ahead of an avg human. Want to Dispute this, grab any random sample of 10,000 humans assign a duty or responsibility (say calculations that can be computed), compare their results to that of 10,000 computers (calculators in this case) performing same calculations. Bottom line, most computers are a synchronized version of a perfect human action or perception.
"Another thing is what if the robot breaks down/files get corrupt, a circuit blows in the middle of the surgery" What if the surgeon has a stroke during surgery? Or a sudden cramp in his scalpel wrist while he's operating on your heart? With *current* technology human error is more likely than machine error.
hard to tell, there is still a lot of human error in many procedures done today, so I guess first it would have to be tested to see how these robots handle and their amount of error against success ratio
I would hope that in 50 years we as humans will have transcended our monetary systems into a Resource Based Economy as outlined by Jacque Fresco. Then there would be no need to choose as what today would be viewed as a life threatening surgery would be a quick autonomous procedure, free and effective. No more insurance companies or pharmaceutical companies treating human medicine as a conduit to profit.
If anyone could use this technology and refine it, its the military. They have the satellites, money and lost of injuries. Not too many doctors are willing to go where these injuries are taking place.
I''d surely stick to the robot surgeon. Even if you speculate very conservatively, the tendency of exponential accelerating benefits in weak AI will surely surpass humans not that late. We've just begun crawling in substantial applications of autonomous technology in some few fields, I have no reason to believe we wouldn't have gone a lot further in the next 50 years.
Thank you for the good quality content. Simple enough for normal people to understand. I am doing a paper on Robotics in the Health System. I would personally prefer the best robot in 50 years. I know a lot of doctors who don't care at all about scarring and have no care for your appearance. I like how robots make a much smaller incision and do not put us under great risk of infection.
Hmm still human best surgeon and possibly robot assisted the point is that power issues is a factor when ever we are to consider machine learning and IA. The best approach to this is bio chip approach in embedded into our doctors..This is another level in knowledge management again no machine be so perfect in analysis compared to human reason power ..I still wait to see a machine which is best in analysis than the human reasoning capability as robo doctor
Even 50 years from now, I don't see independent robotic surgeons being used. The general public wouldn't be too accepting of it; they may have their doubts about technology or may think that there is a greater risk with robots. Even if robotic surgeons do become a mainstream thing in medicine in the next 100 years, there will always be human surgeons supervising the machines.
But there are still pilots in the cockpit supervising the computer's actions - the computers aren't running the planes independently. Not many people would get on a plane if there were no pilots, just as not many people would let a robot cut them open without trained medical professionals being present.
SoGillyHicks01 I might argue that once one person decides to take that leap, given things go successfully, many more would follow. It's only a matter of time. I agree with your point but I also disagree. I know I would do it.
AnaBanana This guy and others are greatly underestimating how much technology needs to be developed to have an autonomous surgeon. Right now we have 0 automation. Surgeons train for years and years just to get certified and it's not so easy to create an AI that can replicate this experience.
Has anyone took into consideration about sanitization at home if you had a surgical robot? This would be a big issue if you had to have emergency surgery in you home you would have a high chance to get an infection!
Surgeon because there is something called doctor patient relationship that is built on trust . If I trust my surgeon both humanly and technically I feel safe But how could I trust a cold machine with no thinking nor flexibility made purely for material benefits and can have technical issus I'll stick to the warm hands of a surgeon thanks
The human could make a mistake too and do the same thing, it can and does happen. Risks are taken no matter which option is picked. Personally, I'd go with a combination of both, 50 years is more than enough time for the surgeon and the robot to be more advanced in their surgeries.
John Galt by that time the surgeon would either die or retire, you know the fidgeting hands come with time. Of course I don't have any, since I am immortal.
Definitely the robot from 50 year in the future because of the exponential raise of technology.. just imagine 50 years from now we'll have purchasable nanobots and Saltwater 3D printed organs which will repair or reprint them using the water inside the body without having to make any opening threw the skin.
Tele-surgery is a terrific concept, but there's one major flaw that will never be overcome with it, the delay in data transfer. If a surgeon accidentally, for example, cuts just a little bit too far into a major blood vessel, he won't know able it for a amount of time (depending on how far the data need to travel will determine the amount of time), then the surgeon has to react and the data need to return.
The future robotic surgeon would of course be the best option, the reason being is that robotic surgeon wouldn't even exist if it didn't benefit patients.
It depends on how far AI will be developed. But even if there still wont be any strong AI, with all the progress we can see in robotic and stuff like Big Data, learningh programs etc i think i would choose the robot.
I'd have to say I'd choose the robot, but only if there were a human supervising. The one thing I don't think robots will get in the next 50 years or so that the human has is the ability to improvise, to adapt to unforeseen complications.
Robot please! Humans are imperfect. A robot can have all the training from every surgery every recorded, instantaneous reaction time, unlimited sensors including x-ray vision, is immune to fatigue, and can handle 20+ tools simultaneously without getting confused. Would you rather a human driver or an autonomous one? Google's autonomous car has a perfect driving record and so do many other autonomous robots. I don't know very many humans who can claim to be 100% alert 100% of the time they are driving and in fact most have been in accidents.
I could totally see humans creating super intelligent robots that think for themselves and end up eradicating humans. People would be so distracted by the sheer possibilities that they'd be blinded to the dangers...
Wouldn't an autonomous surgical robot create a paradox out of the Three Laws of Robotics? Even if the robot knew it would prevent a greater harm, it still concerns the fact that no matter what that robot would do, it would result in harm coming to a human patient.
AI surgeon is definitely a future. AI can help human in different way. If research succeeds future surgery will be less invasive and more precise. If I have to choose AI surgeon from 50 years from now vs best human surgeon of today. I would definitely go with AI surgeon. Technology is changing rapidly and it definitely will be error-free than human surgeon. As AI can analyze and interpret wide range of data within fraction of second which will improve the healthcare of future.
I would prefer nano-surgeons, once they're in there the vessel is bolstered against all detrimental effects, the healing, regeneration and detoxification of the body until perfect health would be assured and it would be as life-changing as it's polar opposite is to a person debilitated through illness, amputation, paralysis, etc....
Robots can't replace Surgeons...Why..bcoz surgery is not a pure science where things have to be done some particular way..every Human Surgeon learn through experience and perform surgery in their unique way
fast learner computers no longer follow static instructions ... you can tell a computer now , "go figure it out... then do it" and it will... it's called AI and machine learning..
fast learner anything that can be put in if then terms can be coded ... if the patient is sick, perform surgery , if artery ruptures , repair, if repair fails , try again , if patient codes , hit with paddles , if this fails , try again , if that fails , note time of death ... it's all an algorithm... it doesn't matter how complex it is ... if it's an algorithm , it can be coded ...
Mintbox 23 so you think machines and artifitial intelligence wont replace engineers? hehe man i think you are not undertanding how this works, what do artifitial intelligence does? solve problems, what do you think engineers do? at least so far.. yep, thats your answer
We have to put into consideration the way we human surgeons operate on patients on the table. Robots may or may not detect if they caused an accidental cut that jeopardizes the patient's life. Sure, we sneeze, we have human errors, and we may not know everything that the robot surgeon knows, but in the end the human surgeon will always be adjusting to the patient's needs when necessary before, during, or after the surgery. Our sensitive hands and our abilities to choose the best options/judgements for our patients even in the toughest situations are what makes human surgeons irreplaceable. You think robots can adjust to all of this? I think not.
As far as I know, this system is not completely autonomous as doctor having a full control over it. In the future, it might upgrade its feature to completely autonomous but still it cannot do anything without instruction given by software developer. So Robot is always under controlled and cannot replace human.
I'd want to know all the stats of previous surgeries the robot may have undertaken and if better than the human, I'd take the robot. Oh! Also you'd probably need more than one human for the job so you'd need to rely on more people (more risk) whereas it'll probably only take one robot.
I'd choose robot. For a lot of people it would be scary, but if you think about it they are much less likely to do some kind of mistake. Just think about those Google self driving cars. After hundreds of thousands kilometers, they caused no accidents at all.
If robot doctors prove better, probably will, it'd be nice if drives down the price of surgeries. In the meanwhile I heard playing video games with controllers make you better at hand precision.
Charlie M bet you will someday lol. We already place our lives in the hands of computer systems on a day to day basis without giving it much thought. Imagine if the traffic computer glitches during rush hour and gives green lights to traffic that crosses lanes. Yet we go thru green lights at 45mph with confidence every day.
The current medical technology is pretty fantastic. And the results from studies show that both recovery time and the potential cost of re-admittance are statistically lower with the Da Vinci robots as compared to both open surgery and laparoscopy.
I would take the robot because they are able to do always the exact same thing so if they do something wrong you can correct it before they actually become a robot surgeon.
guys the human eye can detect those things which robot cannot lets take an example ,,,who will take responsibility that robot will not cut your artery or damage nerves or give anasthesia at proper place
Human skill is known and robot's is unknown, so human. Assuming robotic skill in 2064 is better is like being in the 1960s and thinking AI would be on the level of HAL in 2001.
Let's start by stating that probably the first botched surgery done by a robot will probably stop this technology. The human body is complicated and one person's problems aren't the same as another. This could be an error in the medical records, caused by poor documentation or the patient not mentioning about a past procedure. Before I go farther let me say I'm not a doctor nor have I studied anything medical or biological. I feel a robot 50 years in the future, even at its best, may still not be prepared for the worse. I'm not saying every human surgeon are ready for when things take a turn for the worse, but they will try to fix the problem. I'm afraid a robot might not be prepared or equipped to fix certain problems if they arise. Let's say, not sure if possible, a muscle twitches when I'm getting surgery done and causes the robot to injure something. Now yes with lasers that can be prevented by turning off the laser at the smallest sign, but what about implants? What if this simple, idk, chip gets knocked out of robots "hands". Will the robot be prepared or even equipped to fix the problem? Final answer will be, I wouldn't go to Wal-Mart for the cheap procedure. I much rather go have a robot do surgery on me with a team ready to jump in when things go wrong.
The robot would be my choice because the tech for it will be even more advanced than the average human brain by then and the doctor can screw up but if the robot is pre programed it cant screw up.
Human surgeon, I'm all for robotics but it is a known that human surgeons today are extremely safe. 50 years may be an adequate amount of time to develop robotic surgeons that surpass humans today, but I'd rather stick with a known.
Yeah I'm studying robotics for my uni masters degree, and yeah its amazing what the future holds. But I know if i get the worlds best surgeon i'm going to survive. I dont know about the robot, even if it is most likely I'll survive
If robots can acknowledge their errors and establish their own innovations to succeed in a operation, that's quite groundbreaking.. But until then, let's create better robots for humans doing the controlling and not the robots.
telesurgery when you're trapped? that's idiotic... who's going to connect the IV lines for anesthesia, and once connected and you're sleeping who's going to give the drugs to keep you asleep/wake you up. Who's going to connect the probes for monitoring your pulse, BP, etc. You still need a doctor on site. This guy doesn't think before he talks or what?
1) The robot could find your vein and insert it ?? Not very hard .. 2. Automatically timed dosages once inserted?? Again not very hard to imagine nor implement. 3. Once again it just finds your vein and inserts it .. Whether it's through some sort of technology that allows it to feel the vein or to see it though some sort of imaging software that scans and sees your body but either way its still very doable ..
***** A. If a robot could simulate a surgeon then all human surgeons will be replaced very quickly (except in poor areas where surgeon pay is already low so a robot is too expensive) and B. This won't happen for many many years regardless what people with no experience in the industry like Homeskillenslice think.
aakksshhaayy +Pyrosmania Comedy I think that robotic surgeons would be a great step forward in humanity's future, just not autonomous robotic surgeons. We should not be afraid of the machinery, only the machines that can think.
Probably the robot because we would be more advanced then now and if something may happen during the surgery like a heart problem I don't know but that wouldn't happen to robots and they probably would be more focused I don't really know guess we'll have to wait 50 years to find out
50 years from now? - I probably won't even be around 50 years from now! The fact that you throw such a far in the future figure only reveals your own lack of trust in robots. I will answer for a surgery robot vs a human surgeon 15 years from now: For standard well established procedures, I would trust a robot (repetition + few variables is good for robots). For unusual, uncommon procedures which requite planning and procedure, I still would prefer a human doctor with experience.
i would have no problems with telesurgery..... its already becoming a "thing" .... but autonomous surgeons?! That's a different matter... a machine would need to be able to use initiative before i could see that being feasible. and initiative would require a solid sensory input device........ and afaik robots are only just learning to "see" on their own
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Fifty years in the future? December 2064? Yeah, I'll go with the robot. Probably. Then again, I'll be 98 years old, so I might need the best in the world to keep me healthy.
haha nice, take care of your health
I'd take the robot in the future, because I think it would most likely be set up so that 1 surgeon could overlook 10-20 procedures at a time. That way, if something did go wrong, I'm sure there'd be a qualified surgeon on hand to step in. Of course, on a spaceship or something, we may have to take our chances with just the robot.
I would prefer the best robot surgeon in 50 years
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Wow, Bahria.
Robots are best and accurate. Engineers are great
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I agree.the human hand can only be so presise
I just had liver robotic surgery on Nov. 10, 2016 at Kaiser Permenente, it's a amazing machine I can't believe, less pain and 5 cuts are small
i had a Da Vinci Robotic Colectomy lats week. i have 5 1-inch incisions and 1 4-inch main incision. they removed 10 inches of my Colon and I am almost back to normal already!!!
New skills for surgeons about controlling such robots will be definitely needed, but the future of surgery should be about a balance between the human touch and such technologies.
definitely robot surgeon from 50 years in the future. Why ? because all you would need to do is take a nanorobot pill (once, in your entire life)
So this is what will take away my bread and butter..
+Sanjog Sharma I'm not happy about it either. The surgeon will never go away, no matter how advanced technology becomes.
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I'll take the robotic surgeon hands down . I have worked in automation for six years and have built some. Once the automation is nailed down , it's absolutely correct every single time ... even when you're tired ...
If everyone prefers robotic surgeons, what would it happen to any human surgeons in the future? would there be no 'surgeon' job any more? I guess the biomedical engineers are going to flourish over surgeons if the surgical robots are widely spread and everyone could easily and cheaply use it. Nice channel. I just found this channel, what an interesting channel !
I think human surgeons will still hold for some time, as trainers and operators of robotic surgeons, as well as serving on a standby, should an operation go off the rails and robot lack protocols for it.
Noo the robots are taking my future job
You can change carrier.. be a AI developmet
Too bad.
Definitely best robot surgeon from 50 years from now, you make these way to easy
WOW! nope I don't think so.. any surgeon/human could make a mistake, however i would much rather take a chance with a human doctor than a computer frequently as they have glitches, moments of being frozen and unresponsive.. nope i'm old school and it'll stay that way
what about nanobots aka internal surgery
I'd take a human surgeon- for now, that is. It's just going to take a lot more research and development to make the robot do it as good or better human surgeons. Eventually, yes I'd want a robot surgeon they won't make any mistakes, etc, just I don't know if 50 years is enough to make one that is good enough/how they'll be then. I think there was a time people didn't trust a computer to do calculations, now we totally trust our spreadsheets rather than a human computer (computer meaning a person who does math in this case) the brain may work faster than a computer, but it's not as accurate and more error-prone. Another thing is what if the robot breaks down/files get corrupt, a circuit blows in the middle of the surgery, you'd need another robot to take over for the rest of it.
Indeed, most computers are nothing but human's perfected to the 99.99% tile. That means an avg computer is definitely way ahead of an avg human. Want to Dispute this, grab any random sample of 10,000 humans assign a duty or responsibility (say calculations that can be computed), compare their results to that of 10,000 computers (calculators in this case) performing same calculations. Bottom line, most computers are a synchronized version of a perfect human action or perception.
50 years is much more than needed to make it happen. I think we will have automous robots surgeon, for small procedures in less then 15 years.
"Another thing is what if the robot breaks down/files get corrupt, a circuit blows in the middle of the surgery"
What if the surgeon has a stroke during surgery? Or a sudden cramp in his scalpel wrist while he's operating on your heart? With *current* technology human error is more likely than machine error.
hard to tell, there is still a lot of human error in many procedures done today, so I guess first it would have to be tested to see how these robots handle and their amount of error against success ratio
I would hope that in 50 years we as humans will have transcended our monetary systems into a Resource Based Economy as outlined by Jacque Fresco. Then there would be no need to choose as what today would be viewed as a life threatening surgery would be a quick autonomous procedure, free and effective. No more insurance companies or pharmaceutical companies treating human medicine as a conduit to profit.
If anyone could use this technology and refine it, its the military. They have the satellites, money and lost of injuries. Not too many doctors are willing to go where these injuries are taking place.
i can't believe you didn't mention the autonomous surgery that was already done in Canada, I swear you mentioned one in your podcast.
robots are soo much great but then my dream job will stay just a dream for ever :(
I''d surely stick to the robot surgeon. Even if you speculate very conservatively, the tendency of exponential accelerating benefits in weak AI will surely surpass humans not that late. We've just begun crawling in substantial applications of autonomous technology in some few fields, I have no reason to believe we wouldn't have gone a lot further in the next 50 years.
Thank you for the good quality content. Simple enough for normal people to understand. I am doing a paper on Robotics in the Health System.
I would personally prefer the best robot in 50 years. I know a lot of doctors who don't care at all about scarring and have no care for your appearance. I like how robots make a much smaller incision and do not put us under great risk of infection.
human because I don't want to be in a chair with my guts hagging out why some one is sticking battery's into it
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Hmm still human best surgeon and possibly robot assisted the point is that power issues is a factor when ever we are to consider machine learning and IA. The best approach to this is bio chip approach in embedded into our doctors..This is another level in knowledge management again no machine be so perfect in analysis compared to human reason power ..I still wait to see a machine which is best in analysis than the human reasoning capability as robo doctor
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The best robot in the future. If it's fully functional, all of it moves will be so precise to the millimeter.
Best human because I don't want to wait 50 years. Such a simple answer
He said a robot from the future
Rhys Warrick it will be available in 20 years. According to the exponential increase of artificial intelligence
Even 50 years from now, I don't see independent robotic surgeons being used. The general public wouldn't be too accepting of it; they may have their doubts about technology or may think that there is a greater risk with robots. Even if robotic surgeons do become a mainstream thing in medicine in the next 100 years, there will always be human surgeons supervising the machines.
we've got computers flying all the planes in the world. it's not that crazy. 50 years is a long time
But there are still pilots in the cockpit supervising the computer's actions - the computers aren't running the planes independently. Not many people would get on a plane if there were no pilots, just as not many people would let a robot cut them open without trained medical professionals being present.
SoGillyHicks01 I might argue that once one person decides to take that leap, given things go successfully, many more would follow. It's only a matter of time. I agree with your point but I also disagree. I know I would do it.
AnaBanana This guy and others are greatly underestimating how much technology needs to be developed to have an autonomous surgeon. Right now we have 0 automation. Surgeons train for years and years just to get certified and it's not so easy to create an AI that can replicate this experience.
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Pretty much all jobs will be replaced by robots in less than 50 years.
Has anyone took into consideration about sanitization at home if you had a surgical robot? This would be a big issue if you had to have emergency surgery in you home you would have a high chance to get an infection!
your videos are fantastic and very nice.
I would choose a robot from the future.
Im more prefer human
Surgeon because there is something called doctor patient relationship that is built on trust .
If I trust my surgeon both humanly and technically I feel safe
But how could I trust a cold machine with no thinking nor flexibility made purely for material benefits and can have technical issus
I'll stick to the warm hands of a surgeon thanks
ill go with the human because the robot may have a critical problem and may give more damage
The human could make a mistake too and do the same thing, it can and does happen.
Risks are taken no matter which option is picked.
Personally, I'd go with a combination of both, 50 years is more than enough time for the surgeon and the robot to be more advanced in their surgeries.
John Galt by that time the surgeon would either die or retire, you know the fidgeting hands come with time. Of course I don't have any, since I am immortal.
Well... does the robot from the future run on windows OS?
Definitely the robot from 50 year in the future because of the exponential raise of technology.. just imagine 50 years from now we'll have purchasable nanobots and Saltwater 3D printed organs which will repair or reprint them using the water inside the body without having to make any opening threw the skin.
One surgical robot from the future coming right up
Tele-surgery is a terrific concept, but there's one major flaw that will never be overcome with it, the delay in data transfer. If a surgeon accidentally, for example, cuts just a little bit too far into a major blood vessel, he won't know able it for a amount of time (depending on how far the data need to travel will determine the amount of time), then the surgeon has to react and the data need to return.
It’s nearly instantaneous, to the human mind it’s in real time .
I'd prefer the robotic surgeon. It eleminates the human error factor.
Plz if u are ask question that, robot and human surgery which one would u prefer,
The future robotic surgeon would of course be the best option, the reason being is that robotic surgeon wouldn't even exist if it didn't benefit patients.
It depends on how far AI will be developed. But even if there still wont be any strong AI, with all the progress we can see in robotic and stuff like Big Data, learningh programs etc i think i would choose the robot.
Best current human. While it would be cool to have a robot do your surgery, I feel like I can trust humans more.
I'd have to say I'd choose the robot, but only if there were a human supervising. The one thing I don't think robots will get in the next 50 years or so that the human has is the ability to improvise, to adapt to unforeseen complications.
Robot please! Humans are imperfect. A robot can have all the training from every surgery every recorded, instantaneous reaction time, unlimited sensors including x-ray vision, is immune to fatigue, and can handle 20+ tools simultaneously without getting confused.
Would you rather a human driver or an autonomous one? Google's autonomous car has a perfect driving record and so do many other autonomous robots. I don't know very many humans who can claim to be 100% alert 100% of the time they are driving and in fact most have been in accidents.
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I could totally see humans creating super intelligent robots that think for themselves and end up eradicating humans. People would be so distracted by the sheer possibilities that they'd be blinded to the dangers...
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Same! I am watching every video on his channel.
Humans should always be kept in the loop.
His skull shines so much omg it hurts
human surgeon, because in human we trust.
robot for sure!! leave no mistakes and costs less..and more efficient !
I would go with the robot surgeon from 50 years in the future
if it were a robot like the Da Vinci series, where it takes both humans and robots... yeah, I'd choose a 50-years-in-the-future robot
fifty years because maybe there will be nano robotic surgeons which we can swallow and they do surgery
Wouldn't an autonomous surgical robot create a paradox out of the Three Laws of Robotics? Even if the robot knew it would prevent a greater harm, it still concerns the fact that no matter what that robot would do, it would result in harm coming to a human patient.
50 years in future. Because i am sure the robots technology will be good enough at that time... maybe even less chance of getting fatal mistakes
I would definitely pick a human sergeant. But maybe if the robot sergeant was from let's say a hundred years from now maybe.
AI surgeon is definitely a future. AI can help human in different way. If research succeeds future surgery will be less invasive and more precise. If I have to choose AI surgeon from 50 years from now vs best human surgeon of today. I would definitely go with AI surgeon. Technology is changing rapidly and it definitely will be error-free than human surgeon. As AI can analyze and interpret wide range of data within fraction of second which will improve the healthcare of future.
Robot doctor, less error than a human doctor
I would prefer nano-surgeons, once they're in there the vessel is bolstered against all detrimental effects, the healing, regeneration and detoxification of the body until perfect health would be assured and it would be as life-changing as it's polar opposite is to a person debilitated through illness, amputation, paralysis, etc....
Id Use Human cus what would happen if the robot would go all Skynet on me and rip out my heart?
Robots can't replace Surgeons...Why..bcoz surgery is not a pure science where things have to be done some particular way..every Human Surgeon learn through experience and perform surgery in their unique way
fast learner computers no longer follow static instructions ... you can tell a computer now , "go figure it out... then do it" and it will... it's called AI and machine learning..
fast learner anything that can be put in if then terms can be coded ... if the patient is sick, perform surgery , if artery ruptures , repair, if repair fails , try again , if patient codes , hit with paddles , if this fails , try again , if that fails , note time of death ... it's all an algorithm... it doesn't matter how complex it is ... if it's an algorithm , it can be coded ...
the doctors even call these things algorithms ... differential diagnosis algorithms , etc.
fordfiveohh the problem is because they "learn" by overwriting. So if a wrong knowledge gets overwritten, it will be harmful.
Mintbox 23 so you think machines and artifitial intelligence wont replace engineers? hehe man i think you are not undertanding how this works, what do artifitial intelligence does? solve problems, what do you think engineers do? at least so far.. yep, thats your answer
We have to put into consideration the way we human surgeons operate on patients on the table. Robots may or may not detect if they caused an accidental cut that jeopardizes the patient's life. Sure, we sneeze, we have human errors, and we may not know everything that the robot surgeon knows, but in the end the human surgeon will always be adjusting to the patient's needs when necessary before, during, or after the surgery. Our sensitive hands and our abilities to choose the best options/judgements for our patients even in the toughest situations are what makes human surgeons irreplaceable. You think robots can adjust to all of this? I think not.
+Eg Vu Young Yes, robots CAN adjust to all of this. Robots can do anything that humans can do and more. It's just a matter of programming them.
Yes, they will be able to eventually, they'll be programmed with everything a human doctor would/could come across and has in the past.
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Or better yet: They'll have AI that can learn to do things that no human could have come up with on their own.
You know what the future really is? That people finally start living more healthy.
What if the top of the line ones come out in 51 years and there's only plastic prototypes in 50
And people say that robots will only replace workers on fabric... They will replace everybody! Workers, doctors, engineers and many other.
i would take the robot because it could perform tasks that normally take a whole room on a bed
As far as I know, this system is not completely autonomous as doctor having a full control over it. In the future, it might upgrade its feature to completely autonomous but still it cannot do anything without instruction given by software developer. So Robot is always under controlled and cannot replace human.
I'd want to know all the stats of previous surgeries the robot may have undertaken and if better than the human, I'd take the robot. Oh! Also you'd probably need more than one human for the job so you'd need to rely on more people (more risk) whereas it'll probably only take one robot.
I'll take the robot. With so many technologies expanding at an exponential rate. we might just have nanobot's doing the surgery from within us.
The robot may glitch my organs out.
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still need human guidance!!
I'd choose robot. For a lot of people it would be scary, but if you think about it they are much less likely to do some kind of mistake. Just think about those Google self driving cars. After hundreds of thousands kilometers, they caused no accidents at all.
I don't see the future having a robot surgeon. The human interaction is very important.
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Robot any day.....
I know some medical students, that's why.
exactly. They are too dumbs
If robot doctors prove better, probably will, it'd be nice if drives down the price of surgeries. In the meanwhile I heard playing video games with controllers make you better at hand precision.
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I'd still go with the human, I'm too scared of the robot going haywire and doing even more damage
Charlie M you face that exact same risk with a human surgeon.
Charlie M bet you will someday lol. We already place our lives in the hands of computer systems on a day to day basis without giving it much thought. Imagine if the traffic computer glitches during rush hour and gives green lights to traffic that crosses lanes. Yet we go thru green lights at 45mph with confidence every day.
The current medical technology is pretty fantastic. And the results from studies show that both recovery time and the potential cost of re-admittance are statistically lower with the Da Vinci robots as compared to both open surgery and laparoscopy.
@@ianyboo Very good point
I would take the robot because they are able to do always the exact same thing so if they do something wrong you can correct it before they actually become a robot surgeon.
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i'll have nanobots put in to my bloodstream please?
I would prefer both
guys the human eye can detect those things which robot cannot
lets take an example ,,,who will take responsibility that robot will not cut your artery or damage nerves or give anasthesia at proper place
Human skill is known and robot's is unknown, so human. Assuming robotic skill in 2064 is better is like being in the 1960s and thinking AI would be on the level of HAL in 2001.
I rather have humans do it because what happens if the robot turn evil and kills you at that moment.
The robots are controlled by surgeons.
Let's start by stating that probably the first botched surgery done by a robot will probably stop this technology. The human body is complicated and one person's problems aren't the same as another. This could be an error in the medical records, caused by poor documentation or the patient not mentioning about a past procedure.
Before I go farther let me say I'm not a doctor nor have I studied anything medical or biological. I feel a robot 50 years in the future, even at its best, may still not be prepared for the worse. I'm not saying every human surgeon are ready for when things take a turn for the worse, but they will try to fix the problem. I'm afraid a robot might not be prepared or equipped to fix certain problems if they arise.
Let's say, not sure if possible, a muscle twitches when I'm getting surgery done and causes the robot to injure something. Now yes with lasers that can be prevented by turning off the laser at the smallest sign, but what about implants? What if this simple, idk, chip gets knocked out of robots "hands". Will the robot be prepared or even equipped to fix the problem?
Final answer will be, I wouldn't go to Wal-Mart for the cheap procedure. I much rather go have a robot do surgery on me with a team ready to jump in when things go wrong.
The robot would be my choice because the tech for it will be even more advanced than the average human brain by then and the doctor can screw up but if the robot is pre programed it cant screw up.
Human surgeon, I'm all for robotics but it is a known that human surgeons today are extremely safe. 50 years may be an adequate amount of time to develop robotic surgeons that surpass humans today, but I'd rather stick with a known.
Well inside 30 years we will be able to print the human body and robotics will surpass all human capability based on what traits we build into it.
Yeah I'm studying robotics for my uni masters degree, and yeah its amazing what the future holds. But I know if i get the worlds best surgeon i'm going to survive. I dont know about the robot, even if it is most likely I'll survive
If robots can acknowledge their errors and establish their own innovations to succeed in a operation, that's quite groundbreaking..
But until then, let's create better robots for humans doing the controlling and not the robots.
telesurgery when you're trapped? that's idiotic... who's going to connect the IV lines for anesthesia, and once connected and you're sleeping who's going to give the drugs to keep you asleep/wake you up. Who's going to connect the probes for monitoring your pulse, BP, etc. You still need a doctor on site. This guy doesn't think before he talks or what?
1) The robot could find your vein and insert it ?? Not very hard ..
2. Automatically timed dosages once inserted?? Again not very hard to imagine nor implement.
3. Once again it just finds your vein and inserts it .. Whether it's through some sort of technology that allows it to feel the vein or to see it though some sort of imaging software that scans and sees your body but either way its still very doable ..
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A. If a robot could simulate a surgeon then all human surgeons will be replaced very quickly (except in poor areas where surgeon pay is already low so a robot is too expensive) and B. This won't happen for many many years regardless what people with no experience in the industry like Homeskillenslice think.
aakksshhaayy +Pyrosmania Comedy I think that robotic surgeons would be a great step forward in humanity's future, just not autonomous robotic surgeons. We should not be afraid of the machinery, only the machines that can think.
Probably the robot because we would be more advanced then now and if something may happen during the surgery like a heart problem I don't know but that wouldn't happen to robots and they probably would be more focused I don't really know guess we'll have to wait 50 years to find out
If we think a robot dealing with surgery, can't it just get bugged and accidentaly kill a person?
50 years from now? - I probably won't even be around 50 years from now! The fact that you throw such a far in the future figure only reveals your own lack of trust in robots.
I will answer for a surgery robot vs a human surgeon 15 years from now:
For standard well established procedures, I would trust a robot (repetition + few variables is good for robots).
For unusual, uncommon procedures which requite planning and procedure, I still would prefer a human doctor with experience.
I would want the human one because I want someone I can get to know and understand my fear and even if it cost me my death will remember me forever.
but don't humans make more errors?
perhaps it would be better if the robot did the work but the human had to supervise
Yea or atleast it should be tested
The robot, because the robot will listen like a tech.
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i would have no problems with telesurgery..... its already becoming a "thing" .... but autonomous surgeons?! That's a different matter... a machine would need to be able to use initiative before i could see that being feasible. and initiative would require a solid sensory input device........ and afaik robots are only just learning to "see" on their own