This sounds similar to the whole "Afro Americans have been telling us about systemically racist law enforcement for decades" thing. The victims have BEEN sounding the alarm. It's just that the people with the power have been keeping it down for so long.
maybe after society deals with sexual harassment we can finally deal with racism. of course there is a lot of money in racism so i'm not sure the tv news would be as open.
I'm relieved that this has reached a tipping point. Hopefully women can begin to feel safe in the workplace which could lead to feeling safe on the street, in a parking garage, on a bus, at school, etc. Thank you for reporting on this matter.
Not surprised.... something ALWAYS seemed sketchy about him... the only thing that surprised me is that it’s not male victims... I thought he was gay🤷♀️
Ladies, if someone does this to you, call the police. It is sexual assault. Do not tolerate this for any reason. Not just to protect yourself, but to help protect others.
Sandra, it may be sexual assault to you, but it ain't necessarily so for other women. You know that right? Fact is: most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
Of course, how do you think I can get multiple responses, do you think I just want to get a response from just brain dead folks like you. Dah . . . wake up, stop, drop, and think. . . QED
This would explain why Halperin wouldn't comment much on all these sexual harassment and assault stories from Trump, FOX people to Weinstien. Just how in the hell does he get to keep his job on air is mind boggling. Serious think he still isn't practicing this behavior to this day?
Sexual harassment isn't worth losing your career over. I hate to see that happen, I would rather have a man pay for it than get caught up with nonsense at work. It's just not worth it.
Pay an escort? These are cheap bastards who want p*ssy on 'da cheap --- they don't want to court a lady... they want to take it! *They want Today's Hot Chick to pay for all the slights they endured from pretty girls when they were boys.* Notice how none of these guys are "physically attractive"? Ugh! But even ugly guys can get "some play" if they fix themselves up, learn to be charming and generous. Geesh!
A. K. Most "boys" may not be like that, but unfortunately they grow up into most men who are like that. I don't know ONE woman over the age of 12 who hasn't had at least one experience of this nature in her lifetime. So if boys aren't like this, what are we teaching our boys as they grow up?
Purvi Patel - Yep. Most women, if not all, have had these experiences. All "boys" don't have to be bad for this to happen. Look at how many victims just one creep can create. Tens...hundreds even. So I still think that MOST males behave themselves.
My dad told my sister and I never to date men we worked with. Unfortunately he never mentioned harassment. Dads this is where you can give us some much needed guidance. Moms too. Our mom was dead when we got into the work world.
Beachdudeca And...? Ailes, O'Reilly... Party has nothing to do with it. As for guns, the pattern seems to be lack of trigger discipline (uneducated placement of a finger) and a propensity to slam-fire (a.k.a. premature activation). Y'know, Common conservative traits.
This happens to women regardless of the employer's politics. I want dads with daughters to start preparing their daughters for the realities of the workplace. You're input is needed in this issue. Not just your wives.
Shawn, most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
RogueBishop89 actually its the Left that has excused this behavior because they are Artists , and with that excuse they can bully, attack, insult , and assault others with impunity , until now !
Are you in a position of power? There is a theory that power corrupts. Its like the big kid on a playground bullying others and the skinny kid not being a bully.
Not every man does it. In fact, it's a small number of men who are repeat offenders, hence why it sounds like it's an epidemic. These few men, usually in power, sexually harass and assault *multiple* women and other men. So don't worry, nobody is saying *all* men are sexually assaulting people, it's far from the truth.
"Not every man does it. In fact, it's a small number of men who are repeat offenders," Honestly that's because most men are not in power. I think if you just considered powerful men you would find most abuse their power to take advantage of women.
Kevin, stop making excuses for women, men and women leave jobs for all kinds of reasons; such is life. If someone kisses a women without her permission, she should immediately spit in his or her face and say, "Now run and tell that." These women need to grow up, nobody is guaranteed a job at a particular place.
A, both men and women leave jobs for sundry reasons; such is life. But don't be naive on this topic. Fact is: most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
It's amazing that these sexual harassment stories seem to be all over the news these days. These stories are not new. This has been going on for many many years and there are more people in power and out that sexually harass people in hollywood,television, and the entertainment industry. Victims don't always speak out. I am certain there are more well known people in the areas I mentioned that sexually harass but they have not been exposed. Yet.
Forcing yourself on anyone is the sign of a dark soul. What's wrong with trying to be an appealing man? Usually, an indication that you don't think you can be appealing without using your position.....a position of power. An indication of weakness.....
What I don't get is, why did that woman think "is this normal and expected in news media business?", like seriously, did nobody teach you what sexual harassment is?
I bet this is why Ana chose to stay with TYT at the beginning of the show. The pay isn't great but at least she didn't have to feel an unwelcome dick on her shoulder
Cenk, I'm a big fan of The Young Turk and agree with you on most points, but if you -- and most people-- didn't know the magnitude of the problem, you haven't been listening to women. We've been saying this is a pervasive and serious problem for DECADES. I'm almost more disappointed in all the decent men because I expect better...the scumbags I have no expectations for...but the decent guys...
Tom Huffman More like when the Republicans propose tax cuts on the rich, he says that the Democrats must "compromise" or do half of the tax cuts Republicans want, but when democrats want to raise taxes on the rich, he calls them extremists and there is no talk of compromise from him.
@ Shark Wave Sorry, I have watched dozens and dozens of hours of Halperin on "With All Due Respect" and on "Morning Joe" and "Charlie Rose" and I don't recall him saying anything like this. I have also read "Game Change" and "Double Down". Halperin is much more a political process guy than a substantive policy analyst. Off the top of my head I can't recall ANY instance in which he weighed in on the substantive merits of any specific policy. Maybe he has, but if so it is a tiny, tiny part of what he does. He is all about the horse race and the mechanics of running and winning elections. "Game Change" is I think the best book about a presidential election I have ever read, and the HBO movie by the same name is classic.
He's so dowdy...and staunchy... I watch him on the panel on morning Joe. I am really having a hard time believing this. Geeeeez.... Halperin making passes...at work.... I'm sorry.....I know you can't look at a guy and just tell he does this kind of stuff.... but Mark Halperin..... SMH.
What is this? The year of sexual harassments? I am hoping this is more of an advancement and change in culture, attitude and behavior; and victims are able to speak out and pursue justice, but at the same time am very wary of possible political and opportunistic motivations for some. Either way, it looks like a necessary change and improvement somewhere in society and the system is needed.
no, just another year, just some predators/rapists in power have been caught.....this has gone on since men took over civilization from women......you never heard of this before? ask any woman you know.....young, old, ugly, pretty they will all have a pack of horror stories if you really want to hear the truth. Just imagine what middle class and poor women put up with on a daily basis....................or ask a woman and learn the monstrous truth.......
Disgusting. I've seen Halperin fairly often on Morning Joe. He seemed like a normal, decent guy, political views not withstanding. I'm very surprised. What's sad is that he is, I believe, fairly recently married and has a new baby. How awful for the family.
It's great that the spotlight is on the sexual power in the world, but it amazes me at how surprised ppl seem. It's real, ppl. Men in power know they have it. Any wonder there is a phrase that has been so prevalent - man hater.
I'm just not sure why people are surprised that this was going on or that it has been going on that has been the culture for decades and Hollywood even in music a lot of women who want to become singers have to sleep with the record producers to get ahead this has gone on for like I said decades so why are people just waking up
When it comes to sexual harassment and sexual assault, especially when it's someone with a lot of power and fame who does it, it should be strike one, you're out. Let him live on his savings or go do some menial job for a living where he has no power over anyone.
i do hope the hbo project can be salvaged without him. i loved game change and was excited. thats why you have a co-author just in case one of you sucks at life.
Depending on how a woman views sexual harassment, half of the men in the United States are guilty. If you are a dude, and you're in management, leave every woman "under" you alone. Period. Don't flirt, don't joke, damn sure don't make sexual or romantic advances. That touching stuff is unacceptable though. On all levels. I wish these women would come straight out when this stuff happens.
I agree. It is just a matter of acting professionally. Putting legality aside, no one should act this way to a subordinate. But I would like a clarification: you mean make sexual jokes specifically when you say “don’t joke,” correct? As opposed to general, clean humor.
Hazzycakes In this climate, where the typical form of accusation is through Twitter, I don’t think it is much of a risk to one’s career to speak out against sexual harassment. It mostly comes down to a feeling of not wanting to disclose what may seem to be something too personal. I give you, many accusations are for events that took place tens of years ago in which case I understand making the decision to not say anything (given you were more likely to be blacklisted). I am specifically talking about the film/media industry where there are public figures involved. In other industries where one doesn’t have the platform to generate a Twitter frenzy, silence is unfortunately seen as the only option in order to keep workplace upward mobility.
Ok. I have question, was any of these situations reported at the time, they happen? Yes or No? I only ask because. This is not sounding like now. So what's the what.
Knowingly forcing yourself on someone who isn’t willing is wrong.. But I’m not sure how many times I’ve asked permission before I’ve kissed a girl. I’ve definitely done so a few times, and I’m pretty sure the girls gave me shit about it later on every time that I have asked.
Melinda M No.. and I admittedly don’t know enough about what happened to have a strong opinion on it. But, I do think we should be careful about classifying too many things as sexual assault to the point where people will be too dismissive when the accusations are made.
I’ve been consistently told that confidence is what women find to be a man’s most attractive attribute... which is not being displayed if you’re asking if it’s ok to kiss the girl. I’m not excusing his behavior if he knew that she wasn’t into him, but I don’t think that’s always clear.
There’s a huge difference between getting the wrong impression of a girls intentions and knowingly coming into her when you know it’s not what she wants to happen.
Just remember that comment when your wife or daughter finally dares to come out as a victim. Be sure to tell them they were probably asking for it and should have gone to the police.
Andrew Velonis I said I'd bet, not I know. And it's because whores exist, gold diggers exist, groupies exist, women sleeping their way to the top exist. And probably has always existed, going all the way back to the beginning of man.
elsantoevans Obviously this is not my opinion on all middle-aged white men, I'm simply pointing out what's been a year long trend lately. That said I should have been more descriptive in said previous post but nonetheless stand by my comment.
Does anyone remember the "pubic hair on the Coke can" (or was it Pepsi? Whatever it was...) incident? It was a huge court case and changed sexual harassment perspectives forever. Or at least that's what it was supposed to do. Back then, I was super young, gorgeous and working as a receptionist. People were afraid to give me a compliment for fear that it could be perceived as sexual harassment. I know this because I had many, many conversations about this topic. I'm guessing that heightened awareness faded off over the years, but if these old/older bastards were living anywhere in this country (save under a rock) during the 90's they absolutely knew better. Sick of hearing excuses.
Michelle X: That was from the Thomas Clarence confirmation hearings for Supreme Court justice. Anita Hill testified about the ongoing sexually abusive climate when she worked for him. I remember watching the hearings and thinking all that absolutely happened, the details were so specific and gross!!!
readbeowulfnow That's right! The whole thing was really disgusting and really changed the workplace. Not always for the best either, though. It eventually got to a bizarre point, but it all started with Thomas/Hill.
Tyler, wake up. Most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
James, there are a lot of women that you simply cannot get; such is life. And based on your comment, you simply don't know a lot of women since you think Monica Lewinski is an outlier. Grow up and live a little. QED
some people can get help or end up understanding what they did wrong i hope he is one of those guys thx for this ha bisky vid and you dont need to be really fair to him just if anything else does turn up report on it thats the only way to be fair to him i bet he did actually get into therapy or something taught him what he was doing was completely wrong and it made him realize it (i dont know his past but that plays a lot into peoples who sexually assault others a lot of the time)
waterandafter Getting groped by a stranger at a bar where you can walk away from the situation is more than a little different than getting groped by a boss where you have to work every day.
Thank you for acknowledging this. It is a big problem and has been since women entered the job market. I think that the little holes in the dam are at a point where the dam could burst. I suspect the vast majority of women have experienced sexual assault, or sexual aggression, or sexual harassment at some point in their careers, and were too afraid of losing their mortgage payment to do anything about it. (I am in my 60's - Me too.)
You probably don't have any sisters or females in your family. Everyone I know (including myself) went through such experiences either through their jobs or otherwise. I am amazed that people didn't know about this. Don't wanna blame the victim here, but we should've spoken up about it instead of hiding in shame as if it were our fault. I guess better late than sorry. By the way, it happens to men too (obviously at way less numbers than women). Some men get sexually harassed and assaulted by other men (and I'm assuming by some women as well?). This happens a lot in the military and sometimes sports, but happens everywhere else as well and it's usually done to underage boys rather than adult men. That's obviously my anecdotal evidence from what I saw and heard, but pretty sure a simple google search will reveal similar results.
to be fair to be it seems that all allegations were ABC which he left 10 years ago, so it a pattern of behaviour that for whatever reason stopped unlike others. I know however I would not want to be middle age man in a powerful position who had ever sexually harassed a woman or more like women if I was I would not be sleeping well at night.
Charles Graham except its now been made public that he had a reputation , and women on the campaign circuit warned each other about his tendency to assault women
except that more women are coming out , and its also being confessed that it was an open secret that Mark Halperin preyed on young women as recent as the latest election cycle when he was on the road
I usually am 100% on board with TYT and I am, big surprise, not a republican. I don't think this was a fair assessment. Talking about reserving judgment then judging him to be completely guilty and then half giving him some benefit of the doubt? Not cool. Talking about him needing to be rehabilitated for something that he may have done 10 plus years ago and with no recent stories to back them up? Is it possible that he pissed someone off and they are going after him? Don't get me wrong, it is very questionable, but I still think he is not in the same boat as Weinstein or O'Reilly.
Jim Grant YOU ARE A TRUMP SUPPORTER. YOUR OPINIONS ARE USELESS,. YOU SUPPORT A RACIST DRAFT-DODGING COWARDLY FECKLESS WOEFULLY UNEDUCATED LYING GRIFTER TRUMP [ NO COMMAS WASTED HERE ] , WHO GOT 5 DEFERRMENTS TO AVOID SERVING IN OUR MILITARY AND SUPPORTS TREASONOUS CONFEDERATE KKK AND NAZI FLAGS MARCHING THROUGH OUR STREETS.
Haven't voted republican. Ever. Obama was the best president this country has had since I have been alive. Your an idiot and I don't know how you would come to such an idiotic conclusion from what I said. People that disrespect women are not just republicans or just democrats. I'm pretty sure that there are bad people of all political beliefs.
Women are more emboldened to speak up and that isn't a bad thing,but it is questionable in this case. These events happened 10 years ago and he was immediately let go today for allegedly sexually harassing these women. Being 10 years in the past doesn't make it right, but should he be fired now. He may recover from this, but what if he doesn't? Is that fair when the truth isn't known? BTW TYT is what it is. Honestly I enjoy the first 30 to 60 seconds of each video usually and skip the moral lessons and rehashing of the obvious that fills in the rest of the time. Thanks for your reply.
I don't believe alot of these stories that are coming out, I see how women carry on in the work place and it seems just like the child support system the women in work places are getting the same bias granted to them, the men always pay for the games that are being played, these women could have said something at the time but no they liked it or him at the time but now it's time to monopolize on the situation and women automatically get the benefit of doubt, anything you do nowadays can be misrepresented
Maybe they were ashamed, wanted to block it out, or believed people like yourself would not believe them....it's called being traumatized dumb ass. You let you anger for some women cloud your judgement, are you going tell that to any women in your family if they get rapped?
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The correct way to spell is a lot not alot. There you have the sum of my education .
jacksprat418 I have no problem with boundaries, I just like the facts to be put out and not twisted because the finger always gets pointed at the men, me and my wife just witnessed the same situation where a man walked into Firestone and was. pounced on. by two women that he didn't know but didn't mind because they liked what they saw
Interesting - the tone of this report is utterly different to your tone on all other harassment stories. There, you vilify and ridicule talking about how despicable they were, here, even before all the charges are out, you're asking if he can be rehabilitated. Bit of double standards going on.
these women dont report harassment immediately because they want to wait and see if they get something from their powerful bosses and only when they don't get what they want that they start talking about it ,ana for example will never talk about all the BJ's she gave cenk to improve her situation because it seems to be working for her...at least for now!
Sorry but for a women to say she doesn't remember how she got out of there is ridiculous in a event like that u remember every detail and I am a sexual assault survivor myself so I am not putting someone down at all and I believe this women were harassed but the one women's comments bother me because most almost all women remember every detail unless drugged.
Key word is "almost". My first wife was raped and was so unsettled, she could not be a reliable witness at the trial. Shock can, and does, mess with the memory. PTSD does that critically.
Michael Gong first of all I said memories when horrible things happen u remember every detail unless drugged is what I said and it even happens over and over again in your dreams it is something u never forget
Jennifer Hertzler interesting that you refute them but not me. I must reiterate that the mind WILL screw things up based on the trauma of the incident. And shock DOES make a mind go numb. It is PTSD and when recalled, the mind will adjust the events to cope with what has happened. It can block out parts of an event to protect the psyche of the person. It can also hyper focus on particular aspects. Either way, assuming that someone reacts in the same manner as you is critically short sighted and unfortunately ignorant. I am a certified peer counselor and have dealt with PTSD for most of my life. I have been sexually mishandled by peers bosses and at least two unknowns. I remember MOST details of each incident. Some I know have morphed to let me integrate and deal with them. So, if you are going to jump someone for calling you out, jump on the first one to have done so. That would be me.
+hofifut there is a Lil truth bt they just re report everything from the mainstream media they claim to hate n put their bias on it. all they really are is TMZ for politics.
This sounds similar to the whole "Afro Americans have been telling us about systemically racist law enforcement for decades" thing. The victims have BEEN sounding the alarm. It's just that the people with the power have been keeping it down for so long.
maybe after society deals with sexual harassment we can finally deal with racism. of course there is a lot of money in racism so i'm not sure the tv news would be as open.
[Social] Justice isn't exactly a line at the store. So let's just take care of it all now :)
I'm relieved that this has reached a tipping point. Hopefully women can begin to feel safe in the workplace which could lead to feeling safe on the street, in a parking garage, on a bus, at school, etc. Thank you for reporting on this matter.
Not surprised.... something ALWAYS seemed sketchy about him... the only thing that surprised me is that it’s not male victims... I thought he was gay🤷♀️
I always thought he was an in the closet homosexual. He has a gay voice and very feminine manerisms.
I don't get it: touching a woman in a way that she does not want to be touched. Kissing a woman who does not want to be kissed. What fun is that?
Power. These guys lack charm. The charmless Trump being the prime example.
Ladies, if someone does this to you, call the police. It is sexual assault. Do not tolerate this for any reason. Not just to protect yourself, but to help protect others.
Sandra, it may be sexual assault to you, but it ain't necessarily so for other women. You know that right? Fact is: most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
danilo pompey do you just copy and paste this on a bunch of comments?
Of course, how do you think I can get multiple responses, do you think I just want to get a response from just brain dead folks like you. Dah . . . wake up, stop, drop, and think. . . QED
This would explain why Halperin wouldn't comment much on all these sexual harassment and assault stories from Trump, FOX people to Weinstien. Just how in the hell does he get to keep his job on air is mind boggling. Serious think he still isn't practicing this behavior to this day?
Sonia C - He's actually lost a lot of contracts and is off the air at NBC/MSNBC for now.
WTH??? All of this Sexual Harassment. Hire an escort or something. Role play with your wife, not this.
I think it's a power thing for these people, not just a sex thing.
Sexual harassment isn't worth losing your career over. I hate to see that happen, I would rather have a man pay for it than get caught up with nonsense at work. It's just not worth it.
Pay an escort? These are cheap bastards who want p*ssy on 'da cheap --- they don't want to court a lady... they want to take it! *They want Today's Hot Chick to pay for all the slights they endured from pretty girls when they were boys.* Notice how none of these guys are "physically attractive"? Ugh! But even ugly guys can get "some play" if they fix themselves up, learn to be charming and generous. Geesh!
Guys like Cenk are so shocked by this behavior, but most women aren't. We've been experiencing this sh$t since puberty. Sadly.
Beth Griesauer yeah....... sadly 😔
I'm sorry that you had to grew up with underdeveloped kids like that, because 'most' boys aren't like that.
A. K. Most "boys" may not be like that, but unfortunately they grow up into most men who are like that. I don't know ONE woman over the age of 12 who hasn't had at least one experience of this nature in her lifetime. So if boys aren't like this, what are we teaching our boys as they grow up?
Purvi Patel - Yep. Most women, if not all, have had these experiences. All "boys" don't have to be bad for this to happen. Look at how many victims just one creep can create. Tens...hundreds even. So I still think that MOST males behave themselves.
Mark Halperin struck me as one of those people who was completely sexless.
philpott kentucky I know, I didn't see that one coming. I would have been less shocked by allegations against Joe Scarborough
My dad told my sister and I never to date men we worked with. Unfortunately he never mentioned harassment. Dads this is where you can give us some much needed guidance. Moms too. Our mom was dead when we got into the work world.
Shawn Newell he is a Corp Dem , hard core and anti gun
Beachdudeca
And...? Ailes, O'Reilly... Party has
nothing to do with it. As for guns, the pattern seems to be lack of trigger discipline (uneducated placement of a finger) and a propensity to slam-fire (a.k.a. premature activation). Y'know, Common conservative traits.
This happens to women regardless of the employer's politics. I want dads with daughters to start preparing their daughters for the realities of the workplace. You're input is needed in this issue. Not just your wives.
Shawn, most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
RogueBishop89 actually its the Left that has excused this behavior because they are Artists , and with that excuse they can bully, attack, insult , and assault others with impunity , until now !
I've been a man for 40 years and have never done this.
Are you in a position of power? There is a theory that power corrupts. Its like the big kid on a playground bullying others and the skinny kid not being a bully.
Not every man does it. In fact, it's a small number of men who are repeat offenders, hence why it sounds like it's an epidemic. These few men, usually in power, sexually harass and assault *multiple* women and other men. So don't worry, nobody is saying *all* men are sexually assaulting people, it's far from the truth.
"Not every man does it. In fact, it's a small number of men who are repeat offenders,"
Honestly that's because most men are not in power. I think if you just considered powerful men you would find most abuse their power to take advantage of women.
why does these nasty dudes always want to put their nasty mouths on people..the first thing they do is kiss on people eww wtf
Kevin, stop making excuses for women, men and women leave jobs for all kinds of reasons; such is life. If someone kisses a women without her permission, she should immediately spit in his or her face and say, "Now run and tell that." These women need to grow up, nobody is guaranteed a job at a particular place.
I am amazed people are shocked by this. I had to leave three jobs due to sexual harrssment when I was in my twenties.
A. Morrigan Poor you. I know what's _really_ going on, Morrigan. You people won't get any issues from guys like me. The guys harassing are assholes.
A, both men and women leave jobs for sundry reasons; such is life. But don't be naive on this topic. Fact is: most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
It's amazing that these sexual harassment stories seem to be all over the news these days. These stories are not new. This has been going on for many many years and there are more people in power and out that sexually harass people in hollywood,television, and the entertainment industry. Victims don't always speak out. I am certain there are more well known people in the areas I mentioned that sexually harass but they have not been exposed. Yet.
Kissing her against her will---without a TicTac? Or buying furniture for her, even? You have many things to learn.
powerful men taking advantage? NOT a new phenom at all!
This guy always gave me the creeps on Morning Joe
Tourists Discover what? i liked him. He was always level headed and doesnt interrupt like Joe.
I wonder how Mika will react in the morning about this
Down goes Halperin. Down goes Halperin!!!
I listened to him for 2 seconds and new he was a closet republican.
You smart, but you probably voted for Trump, right?
Anyone is smart didn't.
Forcing yourself on anyone is the sign of a dark soul. What's wrong with trying to be an appealing man? Usually, an indication that you don't think you can be appealing without using your position.....a position of power. An indication of weakness.....
Seems these days affluence is just faster, appeal is overrated.
@Fleck. *Really well said mate!*
I think our parents generation or baby boomer generation is a bunch of creepers.
Soon everyone will need body cams, nevermind google glass is on the way
What I don't get is, why did that woman think "is this normal and expected in news media business?", like seriously, did nobody teach you what sexual harassment is?
I bet this is why Ana chose to stay with TYT at the beginning of the show. The pay isn't great but at least she didn't have to feel an unwelcome dick on her shoulder
charler cat lol
Who knows what Cenk been asking her to do
Cenk, I'm a big fan of The Young Turk and agree with you on most points, but if you -- and most people-- didn't know the magnitude of the problem, you haven't been listening to women. We've been saying this is a pervasive and serious problem for DECADES. I'm almost more disappointed in all the decent men because I expect better...the scumbags I have no expectations for...but the decent guys...
Scumbag on policy is a scumbag in personal life? This is not shocking.
I have never, ever heard Mark Halperin advocate for tax cuts for the rich.
Tom Huffman
More like when the Republicans propose tax cuts on the rich, he says that the Democrats must "compromise" or do half of the tax cuts Republicans want, but when democrats want to raise taxes on the rich, he calls them extremists and there is no talk of compromise from him.
@ Shark Wave Sorry, I have watched dozens and dozens of hours of Halperin on "With All Due Respect" and on "Morning Joe" and "Charlie Rose" and I don't recall him saying anything like this. I have also read "Game Change" and "Double Down". Halperin is much more a political process guy than a substantive policy analyst. Off the top of my head I can't recall ANY instance in which he weighed in on the substantive merits of any specific policy. Maybe he has, but if so it is a tiny, tiny part of what he does. He is all about the horse race and the mechanics of running and winning elections. "Game Change" is I think the best book about a presidential election I have ever read, and the HBO movie by the same name is classic.
He could not Halp himself..
He's so dowdy...and staunchy... I watch him on the panel on morning Joe. I am really having a hard time believing this. Geeeeez.... Halperin making passes...at work.... I'm sorry.....I know you can't look at a guy and just tell he does this kind of stuff.... but Mark Halperin..... SMH.
Don't judge a book by it's cover i guess.
Ugh, he just looks like the creep at work who would go up to you and ask you what color panties you're wearing that day.
What is this? The year of sexual harassments?
I am hoping this is more of an advancement and change in culture, attitude and behavior; and victims are able to speak out and pursue justice, but at the same time am very wary of possible political and opportunistic motivations for some.
Either way, it looks like a necessary change and improvement somewhere in society and the system is needed.
no, just another year, just some predators/rapists in power have been caught.....this has gone on since men took over civilization from women......you never heard of this before? ask any woman you know.....young, old, ugly, pretty they will all have a pack of horror stories if you really want to hear the truth. Just imagine what middle class and poor women put up with on a daily basis....................or ask a woman and learn the monstrous truth.......
That zoom in was so trippy
Wow?!? I didn't Expect that One.
Me either. He always seems like such a big dull dud. I figured he was repressed. He doesn't have that aura of perviness some other guys do.
what was with that slow zoom? that freaked me out
M E H ?
It made me laugh actually :)
family values.
I never would have thought Mark Halperin would do something like this, but wow.
NEVER TRUSTED THAT SNAKE OR CREEPY CHUCK TODD 😃😃👌❤
TRUMP THE S.O.B - Chuck is a creepy ass-kisser.
I'm glad he's out. I can't sta d him. I always suspected there was something off about him.
Disgusting. I've seen Halperin fairly often on Morning Joe. He seemed like a normal, decent guy, political views not withstanding. I'm very surprised. What's sad is that he is, I believe, fairly recently married and has a new baby. How awful for the family.
It's great that the spotlight is on the sexual power in the world, but it amazes me at how surprised ppl seem. It's real, ppl. Men in power know they have it. Any wonder there is a phrase that has been so prevalent - man hater.
Joe Scarborough is next
have we heard a peep outta his Game Change buddy boy john whats his name?
teenie beenie / John Heilemann. I like him. But no, haven't heard any comments about this from him.
I'm just not sure why people are surprised that this was going on or that it has been going on that has been the culture for decades and Hollywood even in music a lot of women who want to become singers have to sleep with the record producers to get ahead this has gone on for like I said decades so why are people just waking up
Another pig loses his playpen ... they ought to watch these animals more closely.
I'd love to know how many FEMALE higher ups have done the same shit.
SpurnOfHumanity
I’d like to see that proof as well...
Your Majesty - that's terrible. I'm sorry you went through that. Did it affect you negatively going forward?
SpurnOfHumanity You don't understand, MEN are beastly, cretin harassers. WOMEN are always victims. Got it?
How come the orangutan gets away with same kind of behavior
who do we complain to?
Don't complain. Vote him and his enablers out 2018 and 2020.
Muslim men disrespect Muslim women.
American men disrespect American women.
Well?
NEXUS MINDWARPED AMERICA. Conclusion: men disrespect women.
It would seems so. :(.
More Muslim men disrespect women (of all races/religions) than American men. And Islam disrespects women more than any other major religion.
That doesn’t make it okay! It doesn’t matter who is disrespecting who, it’s all wrong! And religion in general is bad for women
Asking someone out is NOT sexual harassment.,
SpurnOfHumanity it can if you are their boss.
Or their school teachers.
Now it is. Watch yourself.
SpurnOfHumanity It can become harassment if you keep asking after you have been told to stop.
not that we know of. Once one or two stand up and come out, usually more get motivated and come forward as well. Once a creep, always a creep.
When it comes to sexual harassment and sexual assault, especially when it's someone with a lot of power and fame who does it, it should be strike one, you're out. Let him live on his savings or go do some menial job for a living where he has no power over anyone.
Amy Well, some people lie. You can't just go making accusations and getting people fired without proof. And, yeah, it happens all the time.
i do hope the hbo project can be salvaged without him. i loved game change and was excited. thats why you have a co-author just in case one of you sucks at life.
Depending on how a woman views sexual harassment, half of the men in the United States are guilty. If you are a dude, and you're in management, leave every woman "under" you alone. Period. Don't flirt, don't joke, damn sure don't make sexual or romantic advances.
That touching stuff is unacceptable though. On all levels. I wish these women would come straight out when this stuff happens.
focused313 you got to be responsible. As a business owner don't shit where u eat
I agree. It is just a matter of acting professionally. Putting legality aside, no one should act this way to a subordinate. But I would like a clarification: you mean make sexual jokes specifically when you say “don’t joke,” correct? As opposed to general, clean humor.
Hazzycakes In this climate, where the typical form of accusation is through Twitter, I don’t think it is much of a risk to one’s career to speak out against sexual harassment. It mostly comes down to a feeling of not wanting to disclose what may seem to be something too personal. I give you, many accusations are for events that took place tens of years ago in which case I understand making the decision to not say anything (given you were more likely to be blacklisted). I am specifically talking about the film/media industry where there are public figures involved. In other industries where one doesn’t have the platform to generate a Twitter frenzy, silence is unfortunately seen as the only option in order to keep workplace upward mobility.
Don't people get beat up anymore?
Barack Smith only you
I'm so, so, sorry (that I was caught).
I think Mark Halperin is essentially apolitical, just one pile of group think and establishment thought with a bad haircut
Why don’t these guys just work for TSA. Grope all day, legally and paid to do it.
Brimar7 👍👍👍👍👍
Ok. I have question, was any of these situations reported at the time, they happen? Yes or No?
I only ask because. This is not sounding like now. So what's the what.
bladerunner27x
@ 7.15
Cenk, it's not only in the workplace.
Cenk, don't defend a-holes, please.
Lynn Appleby Let’s try innocent until proven guilty.
Of course he's innocent until proven guilty, but it does seem like Cenk is trying to give a pass or sugar-coat the alledged bad bahavior.
Nancy Hill ALLEGED
Brimar7 My point is that Cenk is defending that type of behavior. I do not if this man is guilty or not. Maybe time will tell.
Nancy Hill I didn’t see how he defended this type of behavior. Maybe I missed it. What did he say or do that makes you draw that conclusion.
Irving R. Levine was never accused of this.
Knowingly forcing yourself on someone who isn’t willing is wrong.. But I’m not sure how many times I’ve asked permission before I’ve kissed a girl. I’ve definitely done so a few times, and I’m pretty sure the girls gave me shit about it later on every time that I have asked.
M Were you holding a job over them or in a social situation where a kiss might be acceptable and even expected?
Melinda M No.. and I admittedly don’t know enough about what happened to have a strong opinion on it. But, I do think we should be careful about classifying too many things as sexual assault to the point where people will be too dismissive when the accusations are made.
I’ve been consistently told that confidence is what women find to be a man’s most attractive attribute... which is not being displayed if you’re asking if it’s ok to kiss the girl. I’m not excusing his behavior if he knew that she wasn’t into him, but I don’t think that’s always clear.
There’s a huge difference between getting the wrong impression of a girls intentions and knowingly coming into her when you know it’s not what she wants to happen.
But it’s not always easy to know the difference when you’re in that guy’s shoes.
I've been around creeps. I'd say, about 20% of bosses were as sexually dominatingly inappropriate as this and a few university professors.
Mark "Goldmember" Halperin. I wonder if Cenk engages in similar behaviour.
I think Mark Halperin should work at: The Blaze.
I am amazed that men are unaware
@Karen. *Please don't lump all men in together like that.*
I'm absolutely *disgusted* by the behavior of Halperin and all "men" like him.
Rooty, I agree but man, reading the comments sure makes one wonder.
I really like 'Game Change'. I'm surprised by the Halperin allegations.
For every woman that said no, there must have been dozens that said yes. It's the only reason these men would try these things over and over again.
Just remember that comment when your wife or daughter finally dares to come out as a victim.
Be sure to tell them they were probably asking for it and should have gone to the police.
"Must have been"? And you know this how?
sounds like wishful thinking on your part
TheBushdoctor68 I'm not saying the victims asked for it. The fault lies with the perp, but women that throw themselves at money & power are enablers.
Andrew Velonis I said I'd bet, not I know. And it's because whores exist, gold diggers exist, groupies exist, women sleeping their way to the top exist. And probably has always existed, going all the way back to the beginning of man.
He was once the voice of reason until, for some reason, he sold his soul to stay on tv. I guess we figured out why he wanted to stay on tv.
No way. I like him on morning Joe. Wtf is going on?
Middle-aged white guy behaving like a sexual predator? I'm shocked. Really. So surprised. Flabbergasted. Appalled. Shook. Dismayed.
Ball Don't Lie you both sound stupidly and unnecessarily racist
elsantoevans Obviously this is not my opinion on all middle-aged white men, I'm simply pointing out what's been a year long trend lately. That said I should have been more descriptive in said previous post but nonetheless stand by my comment.
Dragon1717 inner cities are safer than your churches, if you know what I mean.
Ball Don't Lie jaja sorry then, thanks for clarifying.
Does anyone remember the "pubic hair on the Coke can" (or was it Pepsi? Whatever it was...) incident? It was a huge court case and changed sexual harassment perspectives forever. Or at least that's what it was supposed to do. Back then, I was super young, gorgeous and working as a receptionist. People were afraid to give me a compliment for fear that it could be perceived as sexual harassment. I know this because I had many, many conversations about this topic. I'm guessing that heightened awareness faded off over the years, but if these old/older bastards were living anywhere in this country (save under a rock) during the 90's they absolutely knew better. Sick of hearing excuses.
Michelle X: That was from the Thomas Clarence confirmation hearings for Supreme Court justice. Anita Hill testified about the ongoing sexually abusive climate when she worked for him. I remember watching the hearings and thinking all that absolutely happened, the details were so specific and gross!!!
readbeowulfnow That's right! The whole thing was really disgusting and really changed the workplace. Not always for the best either, though. It eventually got to a bizarre point, but it all started with Thomas/Hill.
but your honor, she said she wanted a touching moment.
Cenk, I am a woman. I think you were spot on with this editorial. Moral: This all sucks.
I know how to treat the ladies and that ain't it.
Tyler, wake up. Most women suck d*ck; but all d*cks are not created equal, so sucking some d*cks is better than sucking others, no? Point: What is being missed, I think, is that lots of women respond favorably to a d*ck on the shoulder come on. Remember, Monica . . . she is no outlier, really. What do you think she would have done if she felt a d*ck on her shoulder attached to a powerful man? Unfortunately, the problem with most of these men is that they are just too aggressive for many women's tastes, but, incontestibly, for others, they are spot on - even though nobody seems to want to acknowledge this.
danilo pompey you must know a lot of women who I would never want to know.
James, there are a lot of women that you simply cannot get; such is life. And based on your comment, you simply don't know a lot of women since you think Monica Lewinski is an outlier. Grow up and live a little. QED
Again.. Like I said last time EVERY SINGLE one of these monsters looks like they do sick shit...
You can't tell from looks.
Thanks The Young Turks.:)
Seems like the kissing and grabbing is pretty common amongst these creeps, but not sure we've heard of a guy pressing pickle before.
I did not like Mark's attitude!
He'll see some PR person or image consultant and he'll be back, unfortunately.....Think Weiner, Spitzer, etc.
some people can get help or end up understanding what they did wrong i hope he is one of those guys
thx for this ha bisky vid and you dont need to be really fair to him just if anything else does turn up report on it thats the only way to be fair to him
i bet he did actually get into therapy or something taught him what he was doing was completely wrong and it made him realize it (i dont know his past but that plays a lot into peoples who sexually assault others a lot of the time)
It’s time to legalize prostitution
It isn't about sex. It is about an abuse of power.
And yes. we should legalize prostitution, but that won't fix this problem.
Chix (and some dudes too) get groped in bars daily, but don't get $32 million for it years later.
Hazzycakes
Read my comment to get the point. Unless that's hard for you?
waterandafter Getting groped by a stranger at a bar where you can walk away from the situation is more than a little different than getting groped by a boss where you have to work every day.
waterandafter and how does that relate to workplace harassment
waterandafter, the millions were because of rape and a long list of abuses.
MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR A SODA. NOBODY HURTS. NOBODY CRIES.
Another one
Isnt he like a buddy to tRUMP?
Why the Hell didn't I know that this situation was this bad?? It sucks to be a dude right now.
Thank you for acknowledging this. It is a big problem and has been since women entered the job market. I think that the little holes in the dam are at a point where the dam could burst. I suspect the vast majority of women have experienced sexual assault, or sexual aggression, or sexual harassment at some point in their careers, and were too afraid of losing their mortgage payment to do anything about it. (I am in my 60's - Me too.)
You probably don't have any sisters or females in your family. Everyone I know (including myself) went through such experiences either through their jobs or otherwise. I am amazed that people didn't know about this. Don't wanna blame the victim here, but we should've spoken up about it instead of hiding in shame as if it were our fault. I guess better late than sorry.
By the way, it happens to men too (obviously at way less numbers than women). Some men get sexually harassed and assaulted by other men (and I'm assuming by some women as well?). This happens a lot in the military and sometimes sports, but happens everywhere else as well and it's usually done to underage boys rather than adult men. That's obviously my anecdotal evidence from what I saw and heard, but pretty sure a simple google search will reveal similar results.
to be fair to be it seems that all allegations were ABC which he left 10 years ago, so it a pattern of behaviour that for whatever reason stopped unlike others. I know however I would not want to be middle age man in a powerful position who had ever sexually harassed a woman or more like women if I was I would not be sleeping well at night.
Charles Graham except its now been made public that he had a reputation , and women on the campaign circuit warned each other about his tendency to assault women
we will see what comes out
except that more women are coming out , and its also being confessed that it was an open secret that Mark Halperin preyed on young women as recent as the latest election cycle when he was on the road
I usually am 100% on board with TYT and I am, big surprise, not a republican. I don't think this was a fair assessment. Talking about reserving judgment then judging him to be completely guilty and then half giving him some benefit of the doubt? Not cool. Talking about him needing to be rehabilitated for something that he may have done 10 plus years ago and with no recent stories to back them up? Is it possible that he pissed someone off and they are going after him? Don't get me wrong, it is very questionable, but I still think he is not in the same boat as Weinstein or O'Reilly.
Jim Grant YOU ARE A TRUMP SUPPORTER. YOUR OPINIONS ARE USELESS,.
YOU SUPPORT A RACIST DRAFT-DODGING COWARDLY FECKLESS WOEFULLY UNEDUCATED LYING GRIFTER TRUMP [ NO COMMAS WASTED HERE ] , WHO GOT 5 DEFERRMENTS TO AVOID SERVING IN OUR MILITARY AND SUPPORTS TREASONOUS CONFEDERATE KKK AND NAZI FLAGS MARCHING THROUGH OUR STREETS.
Haven't voted republican. Ever. Obama was the best president this country has had since I have been alive. Your an idiot and I don't know how you would come to such an idiotic conclusion from what I said. People that disrespect women are not just republicans or just democrats. I'm pretty sure that there are bad people of all political beliefs.
Women are more emboldened to speak up and that isn't a bad thing,but it is questionable in this case. These events happened 10 years ago and he was immediately let go today for allegedly sexually harassing these women. Being 10 years in the past doesn't make it right, but should he be fired now. He may recover from this, but what if he doesn't? Is that fair when the truth isn't known? BTW TYT is what it is. Honestly I enjoy the first 30 to 60 seconds of each video usually and skip the moral lessons and rehashing of the obvious that fills in the rest of the time. Thanks for your reply.
I don't believe alot of these stories that are coming out, I see how women carry on in the work place and it seems just like the child support system the women in work places are getting the same bias granted to them, the men always pay for the games that are being played, these women could have said something at the time but no they liked it or him at the time but now it's time to monopolize on the situation and women automatically get the benefit of doubt,
anything you do nowadays can be misrepresented
Obviously, YOU have a problem with boundaries and have been accused of harassment more than once. You exposed yourself!
Maybe they were ashamed, wanted to block it out, or believed people like yourself would not believe them....it's called being traumatized dumb ass. You let you anger for some women cloud your judgement, are you going tell that to any women in your family if they get rapped?
The correct way to spell is a lot not alot. There you have the sum of my education .
^^^^^^^^^Looky everybody, another guy who is not getting any because of his lack of respect for our sisters and mothers!^^^^^^^^^
jacksprat418 I have no problem with boundaries, I just like the facts to be put out and not twisted because the finger always gets pointed at the men, me and my wife just witnessed the same situation where a man walked into Firestone and was. pounced on. by two women that he didn't know but didn't mind because they liked what they saw
Bill orielly was given multiple chances. Halperin deserves one chance!
Sounds like he's had 5 so far.
*CNN* is already on the phone with Mark hammering out a deal to hire him.
Probably not if we're talking reality.
Wait yes the guy might be a creep, But what ever happened guilty until proven in a court room??
Interesting - the tone of this report is utterly different to your tone on all other harassment stories. There, you vilify and ridicule talking about how despicable they were, here, even before all the charges are out, you're asking if he can be rehabilitated. Bit of double standards going on.
Mat Broomfield thats right you tell em!
Maybe because these are just allegations, nothing has been proven yet. Plus, he hasn't been revealed to have done it for as long, or as horribly.
The tone of this report is different because the tone of the alleged incidents is different, dumbass.
There's Red from, "that 70s show" again. "dumbass", he says it sooo well!
Mat Broomfield Hypocrisy is the norm, don't take any media/political person seriously. Entertainment purposes only.
Wait a doggone minute, Uygur! Halpern's your boy, you don't get to slither away.
He's made it clear for years that he detests Halperin.
these women dont report harassment immediately because they want to wait and see if they get something from their powerful bosses and only when they don't get what they want that they start talking about it ,ana for example will never talk about all the BJ's she gave cenk to improve her situation because it seems to be working for her...at least for now!
Bitch stfu
Still he said, she said.
Very true.
Now introduce me to your daughter.
The Weinstein Effect
Walter Anderson The Oreilly Effect
Walter Anderson The Ailes' effect?
Purvi Patel okay, the Cosby Effect
Sorry but for a women to say she doesn't remember how she got out of there is ridiculous in a event like that u remember every detail and I am a sexual assault survivor myself so I am not putting someone down at all and I believe this women were harassed but the one women's comments bother me because most almost all women remember every detail unless drugged.
Key word is "almost". My first wife was raped and was so unsettled, she could not be a reliable witness at the trial. Shock can, and does, mess with the memory. PTSD does that critically.
I get blackouts from extreme stress or just fatigue, it's actually fairly banal.
why do you think EVERYONE reacts to things like you do? pretty arrogant of you. then you said most...so that leaves SOME who don't react that way.
Michael Gong first of all I said memories when horrible things happen u remember every detail unless drugged is what I said and it even happens over and over again in your dreams it is something u never forget
Jennifer Hertzler interesting that you refute them but not me. I must reiterate that the mind WILL screw things up based on the trauma of the incident. And shock DOES make a mind go numb. It is PTSD and when recalled, the mind will adjust the events to cope with what has happened. It can block out parts of an event to protect the psyche of the person. It can also hyper focus on particular aspects. Either way, assuming that someone reacts in the same manner as you is critically short sighted and unfortunately ignorant.
I am a certified peer counselor and have dealt with PTSD for most of my life. I have been sexually mishandled by peers bosses and at least two unknowns. I remember MOST details of each incident. Some I know have morphed to let me integrate and deal with them. So, if you are going to jump someone for calling you out, jump on the first one to have done so. That would be me.
funny he's talking about breaking stories cuz tyt sure doesn't.
+hofifut there is a Lil truth bt they just re report everything from the mainstream media they claim to hate n put their bias on it. all they really are is TMZ for politics.
cenk's vibe feels defensive.
Max Johnson - Projection, on your part, why else would you be triggered (rhetorical question).
+Ste H questions end in ?