I have 7 singers , 3 vintage, embroidery, serger and cover stitch and one other computerized one. I never have issues. I have also used brother. I had a Walmart special I used for 15 years. I have a Viking as well. I can work on pretty much any machine.
I’ve had a Singer Futura Quartet for about 10 years. I had issues with embroidery at first & was told by several people to return the machine. But I changed the thread, made sure I had good needles & have had years of great embroidery projects.
Singer's tension issues have been going on for years now. The company was bought out, and Singer became their "cheap line," so I don't think bettering it is in their books. I had a Singer with the same thread tension issues, practically new. I ended up getting a new machine just to get away from all the frustration. I now have a fully mechanical Baby Lock that works like a dream.
This is the worst most biased review I have ever seen. I sell all brands of sewing machine and this person has no idea what she is talking about. This model singer is actually manufactured by Brother for Singer but has more exclusive features that you find with brother like mySewnet and WiFi capabilities. Singer has been improving its quality over the past 5 years with its new ownership and is now making singer of the best products on the lower entry level price points.
That is a load of bullshit! Seriously? Singer has been repackaging the same failure by design machines since at least 2009. If they're so bent on quality and innovation, explain why ALL of the warranty depots have been moved hundreds of miles outside of almost every major city in North America (don't believe me, go check for yourself, I did my homework), and taken their offices and amalgamated it into a single office with a small staff out in Texas that is NOT open on the weekends, and only Monday to Friday (not on holidays, either), and ONLY during Doctors Office hours! Sure, they answer their phones...but you wait awhile...a long while because they have such a small staff. They answer emails as well. I asked them WHY they moved all of the warranty repair depots outside of major cities across North America and deposited them into small mom and pop sewing sales shops in small towns and hamlets, where it was, to put it mildly, difficult for most to take in a machine that needed a warranty repair. Wanna know their response there John? They blamed the pandemic for ALL of these shops shuttering their doors for good. Guess what, that's bunk! Singer had a repair depot here in my city in Ontario, Canada. That shop is still trading to this day. I called them and asked them if they still did Singer repairs. They said they did. I asked them if they still did warranty repairs, they declined to answer why, but stated they did not. Now...back to the pandemic. The pandemic was a complete resurgence of machine sales worldwide. Reason? Mask making. Singer made a KILLING during the pandemic, and had the unmitigated gall to blame that on these stores all closing up, and them being forced to move the warranty depots so far out of reach no one would bother making a claim. So...next time you decide to verbally smack-down a respected sewist like Thimble Book, I strongly suggest you come into this forum with fact, not your fantasy, just because someone said something about your favourite company that you took exception to. Incidentally, I still have that email with Singers response to my question. I can back my claims up with cold, hard facts. Can you?
@@randyc8171that’s all good but I have a real issue with a person who claims to review items that they have never used. She is beating up singer for some of the garbage they have made in the past. But they are spending millions on upgrading their quality and have done a good job and should be reviewed without bias for the products they are making today.
I purchased Singer 5000xl in 2006 before Singer went bankrupt. Though it was produced by a reputable company it was truly an underpowered lemon. Later, in 2008, I had to replace a part and was told that the part was no longer available because of the change of ownership of the Singer Corp. At that point, I got rid of the Singer embroidery machine as well as a Huqusvarna sewing-only machine. I changed to a different embroidery/sewing machine manufacturer and have been very happy ever since. I cannot endorse any Singer, Viking, or Pfaff product on the market that was manufactured after 2008. I advise anyone in the market for an embroidery machine, embroidery sewing combo, or a sewing machine to talk to a certified dealer (not a big box store) and find out what constitutes durable sewing and/or sewing embroidery machine. Talking doesn't always mean buying but at least you will know what you are getting yourself into.
I purchased the Singer SE9180 several months ago and I am very frustrated with it. Whether I have it in sewing or embroidery mode I continually have issues with the thread breaking. I have watched and rewatched videos so many times, but regardless of the new needles, better quality thread, cleaning the machine and rethreading it multiple times I continue to have issues. I feel as if I wasted $800. Also the needle threader rarely works and the thread cutter consistently cuts only the top thread, not the bottom thread. I can live without the needle threader and thread cutter but the thread breaking constantly is making this machine pretty useless at this point. I was so excited to have my first computerized sewing machine and super excited to try machine embroidery. I’m determined to keep trying as $800 was a real stretch for my budget and I can’t afford to replace it but I certainly would not recommend this machine which I hate to say because ever machine I’ve ever used has been a Singer. My mistake for not listening to reviews that consistently recommended Brother over Singer.
If you are already outside the return window, you can visit your local Babylock dealer and see how much they would give you for the Singer via trade in. I'm not sure if they would give you a good amount but you could at least try. I'm sorry you are going thru it with the machine. And, I hope you are able to find a solution.
I'm going to point a couple things out about Singer and SVP Worldwide. 1. Singer warranty. Some time back, Singer made a decision to do the following: Open a 1 800 number and email that goes to an office that has a VERY small staff for a North American market. This office is Monday to Friday, and it only keeps Doctors Office hours. I kid you not! 2. Move any and ALL warranty repair centers OUT of major cities and into small towns that, if you blinked while driving by it, you'd miss it. They did so, it is my belief, so that making a warranty claim would be so inconvenient and so expensive that you'd just pay for the repair yourself. I've read some nasty stuff people have written about with their repairs. Some people complain that the technicians doing the repairs are not up on electronics. Others have complained their machines do not stay repaired for long, if they're repaired at all. Some people have had to ship a machine to these little hamlets, literally hundreds of miles sometimes away from any major city in the U.S and Canada. The shipping is VERY expensive, and Singer refuses to cover the cost. They then have to pay to ship it back. More often than not, it needs to be repaired again due to something not being right...and, you guessed it, another very high shipping bill that likely cost the owner more than the machine they paid for originally. To drive to and from, to and from, you're in for gas money, your time and wear and tear on your car...for something Singer is responsible for repairing. Singer (SVP) knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they decided to eff their customers over this way. They wanted to sell you a bill of goods that were not worth owning, and wanted to make absolutely certain it would not cost them a dime when the machine up and died. I have a 9960. I got mine off of Amazon Canada. I overpaid for it, but based on what I learned from Roxanne Stitches channel, I really wanted to own one myself. Now, it's a great machine, built by Happy Japan...in 2013. This machine has been around since 2009, and redone in 2013, while Singer still had a network for repairs, etc. open to their customers. When I got my machine (I bought mine on monthly payments over a year), the literature inside the box was all dated for 2013. In a nutshell, I bought new old stock. Singer is still selling this model, but has apparently sunset the parts on them. To get a replacement bobbin holder, on average they cost about $40.00, they are charing over $120.00 for them now that this part supply is drying up. And there have been numerous complaints about this, and the machine's sensors failing. I went to Singeronline and asked the lovely woman that runs it about getting a service manual for my machine. I explained to her the situation with warranty repairs and told her I wanted to have the option of fixing it myself if it ever failed. She sent me a .pdf free of charge the next morning. I suspect she knows what this company's attitude towards the machine owners is, and was good enough to help me out. I'm still looking for a cheap parts machine to strip down so I can keep this machine going awhile. Husqvarna Viking and Pfaff both have horrendous issues with their machines, and there are many complaints about breakdowns, particularly feed dogs dropping and never coming back up (this also plagues my machine). The reason? They use VERY soft white nylon grub screws to support the feed dogs, and if you put any stress on the feed dogs, the grub screws will strip out and drop the feed dogs....forever. While in Pfaff's case, I haven't read a lot of complaints, the same cannot be said for Husqvarna Viking. Their Jade electronic machines are notorious for these failures, and yep, same garbage grub screws on their feed dog supports. Bottom line is; SVP Worldwide is only interested in your money, and once it is in their pockets, they could care less if you end up with a 25 pound paperweight on your sewing table. Welcome to the world of cold, heartless planned obsolescence!
I didn't know there was a such thing as a plastic screw. Hmm you learn something everyday. There really needs to be some sort of regulations on companies to keep products out of the land field long as possible.
I completely agree. Unfortunately; no one cares enough or is knowledgeable enough to hold these companies accountable. My HD3000 is proof of how gullible a manufacturer thinks we all are. And...they sadly appear to be right about consumers getting proactive about the absolute garbage being churned out of these factories. Until somebody finally gets angry enough to call them on their nonsense, this will continue.
Truthfully I WOULD NOT take a chance on any new Singer sewing machine. They were the Gold Standard then got bought out and changed hands so many times, all trying to wring value out of their respected name. Plastic parts, poor engineering and design, nonexistent customer service--go elsewhere!
If you look at the needleplate and embroidery foot it looks just like the Brother machine I have, I have the feeling that Singer is having this machine made by Brother for them, a very good thing and this machine may perform very well like a Brother. Just my opinion. The embroidery hoops look like the Pfaff and Viking design in terms of connection to the embroidery arm.
oh and SPV worldwide just got bought out by a corporate investment monster, they wanted the new Pfaff with the AI and voice control. I can explain in part some the quality control issues for you as I had a internet conversation with a ANGRY pfaff/Husqvarna Viking employee who was annoyed that we brought up that they were made in China. She explained that Pfaff/Husqvava Viking have a team of qualified engineers from Switzerland on the floor of all factories walking around doing live Q&A, Singer do not, she insists that the PV part are the same quality as they were when they were made in Europe because of this.
@@randyc8171 The big issue is not so much where they are made, and trust me I remember the UK car industry in full swing and it was a mess, but the lack of quality control. It's unfair on the customers and it's far worse for the people making the machines when they don't have access to designers and instead have to rely on problem-solving lists. So what happens? The best workers go to the factories with the engineers where they don't get blamed for everything, and you end up with the factory that tried to save money getting worse.
I'm not surprised by the poor reviews: 1.) These machines are not up to the standards of Singer from years ago 2.) Unless manufactured with exceptional precision, electronics can be "fluky". 3.) I think these are probably assembled in China and who knows what sort of quality control they use for goods sent to the U.S.? 4.) Singer as we knew it no longer exists; they became SVP a conglomerate of Singer, Viking, and Pfaff. Then recently, SVP sold a controlling interest to Platinum Equity, whoever they are. 5.) Planned obsolescence; these machines can and will ultimately fail and for the most part, be more expensive to repair than replace. So, the sewist must buy another - another lightweight machine made with plastic gears, thin metal and not very good warranties. Years ago, when machines were built to last, they had 25-year warranties, sometimes 30, for example, Sears. And thousands of Sears machines are still working beautifully, 50 and more years later, mainly because they were built of metal (up until around the late 70's anyway). And yes, they don't have all the electronic "bells & whistles" of today, but they'll do just about anything a sewist needs. Then there are the lovely Singers of the 50's and 60's, as well as the much older and exquisite "old ladies", black with beautiful decals. I have an 80+ year old 201-2 which runs like a dream. These machines are prized for their dependability and functionality, just as the vintage Kenmores are. There are a few "high spots", some higher end machines like the Baby Lock Jazz II are decent all-mechanical machines, but they are PRICEY. They are usually "on sale" for around $800 - a lot of money for a mechanical machine. I'm going to guess that the Jazz II is repairable if it breaks down, but I suspect that would be costly as well. It also has a 25 years 'limited' warranty for parts and labor. If you want a better warranty, it must be purchased separately. I find the downfall of Singer and Sears very sad. They used to sell quality; that's now a thing of the past.
Its really depressing when you think about all the new generations who have no quality machines to pass down to their children. The only heirloom quality machines left are ones of the past.
Thanks for your review and info!!!!! Do you know if this machine can use the 5 x 7 or 10 x 6 Borderless/Endless Hoops? I called the Singer customer service center asking for that and after almost three months I have not gotten any answer to that. I am lucky that my Singer 9960 and C430 never had any of those issues at all, but they are not embroidery machines.
The area where the borderless hoop attaches to the embroidery machine looks different from the one on Singer 9180. So, my best guess would be the borderless hoop isn't compatible. However, I don't know for sure because I don't have the machine and the website doesn't say.
I purchased sE9180 and has issue with hoop recognition. I was ready to start my embroidery project but the machine just did not recognize the hoop size
Perhaps you can check to see if there is a software update available because sometimes that fixes this issue. I hope you are able to get this worked out. Thanks for watching.
I have owned only singer machines and their quality has dropped dramatically. I wish they would rise to prominence again with excellent quality like the 1950s 306 and early 1900s 9D that I own. They still are my daily machines that have lasted this long. Go back to good machines singer.
I can't tell you weather or not to buy a machine. Just consider what you plan on embroidering and see if the hoop size is right for what you plan on making. Also, consider if it is capable of doing all the sewing projects you wish to complete.
I hadn't even watched it and thought @avivagodfrey9272 's reply. I have had the Quantum Stylist 9960 since release and let me tell you about the issues with auto tension. First of all it detects and adjusts every time you stop and start and hit any change in the material, this makes it non-adjustable. With a walking foot it adjusts each stitch, which means it pulls each stitch to the left or right, making the straight stitch look terrible. It cannot figure out the correct tension for light viscose or satins. Another issue is that because of this you can only use the official 15j bobbins with the groove or it beeps at you and stops, if it beeps and stops 3 times it resets, including halfway through buttonholes. You cannot turn this beep off. It's *fantastic* at quilting but I lost trust in it and it's sat there while I use a pfaff for dressmaking.
It takes many many hours to comb thru online reviews, call companies for additional info, and edit footage. I do all this so my viewers don't have to waste their time . If you would also like to see a personal testing of the product, send a machine my way. Thanks for watching.
@@ThimbleBook Yes t does take time to research and edit videos, Gosh I know that! How dare you trash a company or product without personally testing it and proving you points, it's completely and totally wrong. It's word of mouth and you have nothing to substantiate your claims, anyone can check reviews and point out all the negatives but it take an honest person to also point out the positives. I would hope your viewers will see how bad of a creator you and your channel is. How would you like it if I trashed you on one of my channels? I doubt that you'd appreciate it all that much. BTW, I wouldn't waste my time to even send you an egg fart, spend some money and buy your own product and give honest reviews. Nuff said.
Some insider info on Singer and embroidery machines first attempt to enter market 1000xl and 5000xl where made by juki futura 100 200 and 250 where made by Jagur as the later xl400 type of machines. Not had sight of the Se9180 yet but if its ok should give brother and Janome a run for there money in the beginners market. Fair a balanced review thank you
I didn't know the first ones were made by Jaguar. Thanks for sharing! The 9180 does have a lot of features you can't get from Janome or Brother at this price point. It certainly could be worth the try.
I have 7 singers , 3 vintage, embroidery, serger and cover stitch and one other computerized one. I never have issues. I have also used brother. I had a Walmart special I used for 15 years. I have a Viking as well. I can work on pretty much any machine.
Awesome. You have quite the fleet 🙂
I’ve had a Singer Futura Quartet for about 10 years. I had issues with embroidery at first & was told by several people to return the machine. But I changed the thread, made sure I had good needles & have had years of great embroidery projects.
Yes, sometimes a machine just needs the right thread and needles. The quartet is indeed a very nice embroidery machine. Thanks for watching.
Singer's tension issues have been going on for years now. The company was bought out, and Singer became their "cheap line," so I don't think bettering it is in their books. I had a Singer with the same thread tension issues, practically new. I ended up getting a new machine just to get away from all the frustration. I now have a fully mechanical Baby Lock that works like a dream.
This is the worst most biased review I have ever seen. I sell all brands of sewing machine and this person has no idea what she is talking about. This model singer is actually manufactured by Brother for Singer but has more exclusive features that you find with brother like mySewnet and WiFi capabilities. Singer has been improving its quality over the past 5 years with its new ownership and is now making singer of the best products on the lower entry level price points.
That is a load of bullshit! Seriously? Singer has been repackaging the same failure by design machines since at least 2009. If they're so bent on quality and innovation, explain why ALL of the warranty depots have been moved hundreds of miles outside of almost every major city in North America (don't believe me, go check for yourself, I did my homework), and taken their offices and amalgamated it into a single office with a small staff out in Texas that is NOT open on the weekends, and only Monday to Friday (not on holidays, either), and ONLY during Doctors Office hours! Sure, they answer their phones...but you wait awhile...a long while because they have such a small staff. They answer emails as well. I asked them WHY they moved all of the warranty repair depots outside of major cities across North America and deposited them into small mom and pop sewing sales shops in small towns and hamlets, where it was, to put it mildly, difficult for most to take in a machine that needed a warranty repair. Wanna know their response there John? They blamed the pandemic for ALL of these shops shuttering their doors for good. Guess what, that's bunk! Singer had a repair depot here in my city in Ontario, Canada. That shop is still trading to this day. I called them and asked them if they still did Singer repairs. They said they did. I asked them if they still did warranty repairs, they declined to answer why, but stated they did not. Now...back to the pandemic. The pandemic was a complete resurgence of machine sales worldwide. Reason? Mask making. Singer made a KILLING during the pandemic, and had the unmitigated gall to blame that on these stores all closing up, and them being forced to move the warranty depots so far out of reach no one would bother making a claim. So...next time you decide to verbally smack-down a respected sewist like Thimble Book, I strongly suggest you come into this forum with fact, not your fantasy, just because someone said something about your favourite company that you took exception to. Incidentally, I still have that email with Singers response to my question. I can back my claims up with cold, hard facts. Can you?
@@randyc8171that’s all good but I have a real issue with a person who claims to review items that they have never used. She is beating up singer for some of the garbage they have made in the past. But they are spending millions on upgrading their quality and have done a good job and should be reviewed without bias for the products they are making today.
I agree! I have 7 singer, 3 vintage, embroidery, serger and cover stitch and one other computerized one. I never have issues.
Do you sell this one? How much is it? I want one for home hobby and possibly grow into a small business. Thank you. Canada
I purchased Singer 5000xl in 2006 before Singer went bankrupt. Though it was produced by a reputable company it was truly an underpowered lemon. Later, in 2008, I had to replace a part and was told that the part was no longer available because of the change of ownership of the Singer Corp. At that point, I got rid of the Singer embroidery machine as well as a Huqusvarna sewing-only machine. I changed to a different embroidery/sewing machine manufacturer and have been very happy ever since. I cannot endorse any Singer, Viking, or Pfaff product on the market that was manufactured after 2008. I advise anyone in the market for an embroidery machine, embroidery sewing combo, or a sewing machine to talk to a certified dealer (not a big box store) and find out what constitutes durable sewing and/or sewing embroidery machine. Talking doesn't always mean buying but at least you will know what you are getting yourself into.
Ya know what doesn't have tension issues? A 503 Rocketeer. A 401 Slantomatic. A 201 or a 66 or a 15-91.
These new machines are JUNK.
Yup. I won't go back to modern machines. I've got a 503 Rocketeer, two 53 Necchis and a Kenmore 158. My "modern" singer is in storage
@@dorcasperkins1647 Those are rookie numbers! You got to pump those numbers up!
@@theprojectproject01ikr? 😂😂
@@dorcasperkins1647 I have like [mumbles]eighty
@@theprojectproject01I can definitely see how it happens
I purchased the Singer SE9180 several months ago and I am very frustrated with it. Whether I have it in sewing or embroidery mode I continually have issues with the thread breaking. I have watched and rewatched videos so many times, but regardless of the new needles, better quality thread, cleaning the machine and rethreading it multiple times I continue to have issues. I feel as if I wasted $800. Also the needle threader rarely works and the thread cutter consistently cuts only the top thread, not the bottom thread. I can live without the needle threader and thread cutter but the thread breaking constantly is making this machine pretty useless at this point. I was so excited to have my first computerized sewing machine and super excited to try machine embroidery. I’m determined to keep trying as $800 was a real stretch for my budget and I can’t afford to replace it but I certainly would not recommend this machine which I hate to say because ever machine I’ve ever used has been a Singer. My mistake for not listening to reviews that consistently recommended Brother over Singer.
If you are already outside the return window, you can visit your local Babylock dealer and see how much they would give you for the Singer via trade in. I'm not sure if they would give you a good amount but you could at least try. I'm sorry you are going thru it with the machine. And, I hope you are able to find a solution.
Thanks for the info.
I'm going to point a couple things out about Singer and SVP Worldwide.
1. Singer warranty. Some time back, Singer made a decision to do the following: Open a 1 800 number and email that goes to an office that has a VERY small staff for a North American market. This office is Monday to Friday, and it only keeps Doctors Office hours. I kid you not! 2. Move any and ALL warranty repair centers OUT of major cities and into small towns that, if you blinked while driving by it, you'd miss it. They did so, it is my belief, so that making a warranty claim would be so inconvenient and so expensive that you'd just pay for the repair yourself. I've read some nasty stuff people have written about with their repairs. Some people complain that the technicians doing the repairs are not up on electronics. Others have complained their machines do not stay repaired for long, if they're repaired at all. Some people have had to ship a machine to these little hamlets, literally hundreds of miles sometimes away from any major city in the U.S and Canada. The shipping is VERY expensive, and Singer refuses to cover the cost. They then have to pay to ship it back. More often than not, it needs to be repaired again due to something not being right...and, you guessed it, another very high shipping bill that likely cost the owner more than the machine they paid for originally. To drive to and from, to and from, you're in for gas money, your time and wear and tear on your car...for something Singer is responsible for repairing. Singer (SVP) knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they decided to eff their customers over this way. They wanted to sell you a bill of goods that were not worth owning, and wanted to make absolutely certain it would not cost them a dime when the machine up and died. I have a 9960. I got mine off of Amazon Canada. I overpaid for it, but based on what I learned from Roxanne Stitches channel, I really wanted to own one myself. Now, it's a great machine, built by Happy Japan...in 2013. This machine has been around since 2009, and redone in 2013, while Singer still had a network for repairs, etc. open to their customers. When I got my machine (I bought mine on monthly payments over a year), the literature inside the box was all dated for 2013. In a nutshell, I bought new old stock. Singer is still selling this model, but has apparently sunset the parts on them. To get a replacement bobbin holder, on average they cost about $40.00, they are charing over $120.00 for them now that this part supply is drying up. And there have been numerous complaints about this, and the machine's sensors failing. I went to Singeronline and asked the lovely woman that runs it about getting a service manual for my machine. I explained to her the situation with warranty repairs and told her I wanted to have the option of fixing it myself if it ever failed. She sent me a .pdf free of charge the next morning. I suspect she knows what this company's attitude towards the machine owners is, and was good enough to help me out. I'm still looking for a cheap parts machine to strip down so I can keep this machine going awhile. Husqvarna Viking and Pfaff both have horrendous issues with their machines, and there are many complaints about breakdowns, particularly feed dogs dropping and never coming back up (this also plagues my machine). The reason? They use VERY soft white nylon grub screws to support the feed dogs, and if you put any stress on the feed dogs, the grub screws will strip out and drop the feed dogs....forever. While in Pfaff's case, I haven't read a lot of complaints, the same cannot be said for Husqvarna Viking. Their Jade electronic machines are notorious for these failures, and yep, same garbage grub screws on their feed dog supports. Bottom line is; SVP Worldwide is only interested in your money, and once it is in their pockets, they could care less if you end up with a 25 pound paperweight on your sewing table. Welcome to the world of cold, heartless planned obsolescence!
I didn't know there was a such thing as a plastic screw. Hmm you learn something everyday. There really needs to be some sort of regulations on companies to keep products out of the land field long as possible.
I completely agree. Unfortunately; no one cares enough or is knowledgeable enough to hold these companies accountable. My HD3000 is proof of how gullible a manufacturer thinks we all are. And...they sadly appear to be right about consumers getting proactive about the absolute garbage being churned out of these factories. Until somebody finally gets angry enough to call them on their nonsense, this will continue.
Truthfully I WOULD NOT take a chance on any new Singer sewing machine. They were the Gold Standard then got bought out and changed hands so many times, all trying to wring value out of their respected name. Plastic parts, poor engineering and design, nonexistent customer service--go elsewhere!
If you look at the needleplate and embroidery foot it looks just like the Brother machine I have, I have the feeling that Singer is having this machine made by Brother for them, a very good thing and this machine may perform very well like a Brother. Just my opinion. The embroidery hoops look like the Pfaff and Viking design in terms of connection to the embroidery arm.
Viking owns singer now
oh and SPV worldwide just got bought out by a corporate investment monster, they wanted the new Pfaff with the AI and voice control. I can explain in part some the quality control issues for you as I had a internet conversation with a ANGRY pfaff/Husqvarna Viking employee who was annoyed that we brought up that they were made in China. She explained that Pfaff/Husqvava Viking have a team of qualified engineers from Switzerland on the floor of all factories walking around doing live Q&A, Singer do not, she insists that the PV part are the same quality as they were when they were made in Europe because of this.
Your comment is very interesting. With all this "innovation," I think hand sewing will eventually make a come back. 🤔
@@randyc8171 The big issue is not so much where they are made, and trust me I remember the UK car industry in full swing and it was a mess, but the lack of quality control. It's unfair on the customers and it's far worse for the people making the machines when they don't have access to designers and instead have to rely on problem-solving lists. So what happens? The best workers go to the factories with the engineers where they don't get blamed for everything, and you end up with the factory that tried to save money getting worse.
@@randyc8171 bugger off, I already explained what the issue is with quality control and singer,
I just received mine a few days ago. Just now learning how to use it.
Congrats on the new machine.
I'm not surprised by the poor reviews: 1.) These machines are not up to the standards of Singer from years ago 2.) Unless manufactured with exceptional precision, electronics can be "fluky". 3.) I think these are probably assembled in China and who knows what sort of quality control they use for goods sent to the U.S.? 4.) Singer as we knew it no longer exists; they became SVP a conglomerate of Singer, Viking, and Pfaff. Then recently, SVP sold a controlling interest to Platinum Equity, whoever they are. 5.) Planned obsolescence; these machines can and will ultimately fail and for the most part, be more expensive to repair than replace. So, the sewist must buy another - another lightweight machine made with plastic gears, thin metal and not very good warranties. Years ago, when machines were built to last, they had 25-year warranties, sometimes 30, for example, Sears. And thousands of Sears machines are still working beautifully, 50 and more years later, mainly because they were built of metal (up until around the late 70's anyway). And yes, they don't have all the electronic "bells & whistles" of today, but they'll do just about anything a sewist needs. Then there are the lovely Singers of the 50's and 60's, as well as the much older and exquisite "old ladies", black with beautiful decals. I have an 80+ year old 201-2 which runs like a dream. These machines are prized for their dependability and functionality, just as the vintage Kenmores are. There are a few "high spots", some higher end machines like the Baby Lock Jazz II are decent all-mechanical machines, but they are PRICEY. They are usually "on sale" for around $800 - a lot of money for a mechanical machine. I'm going to guess that the Jazz II is repairable if it breaks down, but I suspect that would be costly as well. It also has a 25 years 'limited' warranty for parts and labor. If you want a better warranty, it must be purchased separately. I find the downfall of Singer and Sears very sad. They used to sell quality; that's now a thing of the past.
Its really depressing when you think about all the new generations who have no quality machines to pass down to their children. The only heirloom quality machines left are ones of the past.
Thanks for your review and info!!!!! Do you know if this machine can use the 5 x 7 or 10 x 6 Borderless/Endless Hoops? I called the Singer customer service center asking for that and after almost three months I have not gotten any answer to that. I am lucky that my Singer 9960 and C430 never had any of those issues at all, but they are not embroidery machines.
The area where the borderless hoop attaches to the embroidery machine looks different from the one on Singer 9180. So, my best guess would be the borderless hoop isn't compatible. However, I don't know for sure because I don't have the machine and the website doesn't say.
I purchased sE9180 and has issue with hoop recognition. I was ready to start my embroidery project but the machine just did not recognize the hoop size
Perhaps you can check to see if there is a software update available because sometimes that fixes this issue. I hope you are able to get this worked out. Thanks for watching.
I have the same problem with my Singer SE9180 recognizing the hoop size.
I have owned only singer machines and their quality has dropped dramatically. I wish they would rise to prominence again with excellent quality like the 1950s 306 and early 1900s 9D that I own. They still are my daily machines that have lasted this long. Go back to good machines singer.
Buy or no
I can't tell you weather or not to buy a machine. Just consider what you plan on embroidering and see if the hoop size is right for what you plan on making. Also, consider if it is capable of doing all the sewing projects you wish to complete.
I hadn't even watched it and thought @avivagodfrey9272 's reply. I have had the Quantum Stylist 9960 since release and let me tell you about the issues with auto tension. First of all it detects and adjusts every time you stop and start and hit any change in the material, this makes it non-adjustable. With a walking foot it adjusts each stitch, which means it pulls each stitch to the left or right, making the straight stitch look terrible. It cannot figure out the correct tension for light viscose or satins. Another issue is that because of this you can only use the official 15j bobbins with the groove or it beeps at you and stops, if it beeps and stops 3 times it resets, including halfway through buttonholes. You cannot turn this beep off. It's *fantastic* at quilting but I lost trust in it and it's sat there while I use a pfaff for dressmaking.
So sad that you give a review on a product without even trying it. Anybody can go and find negative reviews of any product. Sad very sad.
It takes many many hours to comb thru online reviews, call companies for additional info, and edit footage. I do all this so my viewers don't have to waste their time . If you would also like to see a personal testing of the product, send a machine my way. Thanks for watching.
@@ThimbleBook Yes t does take time to research and edit videos, Gosh I know that! How dare you trash a company or product without personally testing it and proving you points, it's completely and totally wrong. It's word of mouth and you have nothing to substantiate your claims, anyone can check reviews and point out all the negatives but it take an honest person to also point out the positives. I would hope your viewers will see how bad of a creator you and your channel is. How would you like it if I trashed you on one of my channels? I doubt that you'd appreciate it all that much. BTW, I wouldn't waste my time to even send you an egg fart, spend some money and buy your own product and give honest reviews. Nuff said.
Some insider info on Singer and embroidery machines first attempt to enter market 1000xl and 5000xl where made by juki futura 100 200 and 250 where made by Jagur as the later xl400 type of machines. Not had sight of the Se9180 yet but if its ok should give brother and Janome a run for there money in the beginners market. Fair a balanced review thank you
I didn't know the first ones were made by Jaguar. Thanks for sharing! The 9180 does have a lot of features you can't get from Janome or Brother at this price point. It certainly could be worth the try.