Yes they don't need a ball bearing for the clutch push rod.They have a tip sleeve that goes over the end of the pushrod into where the clutch operating mechanism locates on the outer casing.
My guess is that you’ve found it. Well done. The only remaining questions are, where did the ball come from, and where (if anywhere) is it supposed to go?
The ball is a part of the clutch arm on the gearbox case. It has a ball and what looks like a cup that the ball sits in on the exploded parts drawing. Someone clearly dropped it in there when working on it before and never noticed. It's numbered 77 on one exploded diagram and 14 on another.
You're right, you'd have to be a soap opera script writer to make that up. Satisfying diagnosis, did you find any witness marks on the casing? Lesser engineers might still be scratching their heads, well done and thanks for the full story.
Well caught Paul, as always with these problems it's simple when you find it!! It must have been a bit of a b***er to have to keep putting it in top on a good left hander😂
There was a ball between the two sections of clutch pushrod found on this machine, but there is no way one of those could get into the gearbox, as it is in a hollow centre running from end to end through the mainshaft.
@@paulhenshaw4514 there should be a ball in the hole in the clutch operating rack that might have fallen out during a previous strip down. I hold mine in position with a dab of grease to stop that happening.
I think it may have come out of the clutch operating mechanism at some time during some 'attention' and found its way through a small opening into the gearbox over time - there was a ball present in the clutch operating mechanism when I found the one in the gearbox.
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Good find.....especially since a wandering ball could lock up the box, unable to be released by the clutch, and someone get hurt.
Oh! dear who'd have ever thought it. Well done on the detective work.
Thanks.
Case solved, Paul “Sherlock” Henshaw. 😀👍. Hopefully, smooth running and shifting from now on. Kudos !! Cheers, Dan ✌️🏍🇨🇦
Thanks 👍
Just to be clear, that ball bearing had no business being in there and may have even been deliberately put there, who knows - I don't.
Yes they don't need a ball bearing for the clutch push rod.They have a tip sleeve that goes over the end of the pushrod into where the clutch operating mechanism locates on the outer casing.
Now that's a bizarre fault, and a bizarre reason.
I'm sure you've got it.
My guess is that you’ve found it. Well done. The only remaining questions are, where did the ball come from, and where (if anywhere) is it supposed to go?
The ball is a part of the clutch arm on the gearbox case. It has a ball and what looks like a cup that the ball sits in on the exploded parts drawing. Someone clearly dropped it in there when working on it before and never noticed. It's numbered 77 on one exploded diagram and 14 on another.
Its from my steering head, I've been looking everywhere for that : )
Christ that's a good catch
Well done
Where's the ball bearing from ? Clutch pushrod actuator?
That is very odd, you’ve cracked it. You do wonder how it got in there.
Fortunately the problem was found before a possible crash. Much happier must be the owner.
An interesting find!
That's a strange one just like Bob Marley it's "Jammin" 👍
You're right, you'd have to be a soap opera script writer to make that up. Satisfying diagnosis, did you find any witness marks on the casing? Lesser engineers might still be scratching their heads, well done and thanks for the full story.
Thanks - you can just make out a slightly shiny area on the bottom of the quadrant where it jammed on the ball, in the video.
Good Job, a later '69-70 shift plate will help shifting too I think they are marked with T. Layshaft shim also crucial.
Note to self: Add Niobium magnet and safety wire to tool kit.
Amazing!.Thanks Paul.
Too funny! I wonder where the ball originated?
You really couldn't make it up!
It looks like, mes Amis, EVERYONE has the same query. So, is there a Roller Bearing, missing a ball ?
Hi Amelie - no, there is no such part inside those gearboxes, somehow, it found its way in there!
@@paulhenshaw4514 Are the mainshaft bearings not ball bearings?
@@tombobb Yes they are, but they use much larger balls than the one found in the bottom of the gearbox.
Interesting.
Good thing it didn't get pitched up into the gears, and cause some real damage.
Yes and maybe injury or worse.
Well caught Paul, as always with these problems it's simple when you find it!!
It must have been a bit of a b***er to have to keep putting it in top on a good left hander😂
Where is the ball from though paul
Or the clutch lifter mechanism has ball bearing that push as plate rotates .an it causes rod to push on clutch presure plate.or is that just triumph
There was a ball between the two sections of clutch pushrod found on this machine, but there is no way one of those could get into the gearbox, as it is in a hollow centre running from end to end through the mainshaft.
@@paulhenshaw4514 there should be a ball in the hole in the clutch operating rack that might have fallen out during a previous strip down. I hold mine in position with a dab of grease to stop that happening.
@@gerryh0011 Yes, it appears to be one of those, having looked at a parts book. It is out of harm's way now, thanks!
Well done Chief Inspector. lol. Or Merlin. I'll still go with Merlin.
Thank you!
Where did the ball come from?
I think it may have come out of the clutch operating mechanism at some time during some 'attention' and found its way through a small opening into the gearbox over time - there was a ball present in the clutch operating mechanism when I found the one in the gearbox.
Is there an indent on the quadrant from the ball bearing??
It looked a little marked there, but nothing much.
Maybe someone put it in the oil filler hole for a laugh
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