Fun fact: That video had about 1k views (after being up for 2 years) when I responded to it in 2017. I think my viewers had something to do with that glorious ratio. 😂 Great response, man! I love seeing a REAL science teacher take this on.
I love when creationist don’t understand that neither the Big Bang or abiogenesis have anything to do with evolution. Evolution says nothing about how life began just why we have such diversity in life
Understandable, in a way. Their model of the universe covers everything, from egg to apple. The creation of the universe itsself, substance, stars, planets, life, species, all in one unified model that is simple, elegant, and wrong. So naturally they expect the rival model, 'evolution' to likewise cover everything that is or was. Evolution doesn't explain where the stars came from? Hah! Then how can it explain everything? Checkmate, atheists.
Creationists conflate the fact of evolution with the scientific theory of natural selection. They aren't going to disprove either because even if that were plausible, it would require doing actual science. It's also irrelevant because disproving evolution by means of natural selection doesn't suddenly make the god proposition more acceptable. Those who disbelieve in evolution don't care to understand it.
The bible says there is a dome (the firmament) over the Earth. It is impossible to have a single dome over a sphere, the Earth must be flat according to scripture, so yeah, believing in god and the bible actually requires you to be a flat-Earther.
@@teacherdave27 Unless you recognize that the atmosphere is a round firmament around a round world. The "Biblical case for a flat Earth" went in the trash centuries ago, and the "Biblical case for a young Earth" is actually a relatively recent development and it's already going the way of the former.
Sorry, check your bible and try again. It says the firmament is a glass dome (the atmosphere is not a dome, it is also a sphere) with holes where the light of heaven shines through (nope, those are stars) and the where the “waters above” (that don’t exist, we looked ) drip through as rain (wrong again, rain comes from clouds), it says the sun and moon are inside the dome (not even close) and that they are the same size (waaaaay wrong !), etc., etc., etc. Try reading the stupid thing before you use it to defend against a position it clearly favours. My point stands.
@@teacherdave27 Your interpretation is but one of many, and you have yet to convince me that your particular interpretation is the one true way of thinking. What translation are you using? Can you cite chapter and verse for every point of your specific interpretation? You joined the conversation and made the outlandish claim that's often parroted on social media but which has been repeatedly discredited, so the burden of proof relies on _you._
They removed dislikes because the exact opposite problem was happening- mobs of anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers were dislike-bombing every video in existence that talked about covid precautions, vaccines, etc. Online anti-science lunatics are a loud minority, but they're a _very_ loud minority
One thing I miss about the dislikes been removed is putting in something along the lines of (number of dislikes) people have had (something relevant to the video) happen to them.
@@Lord_Skeptici miss actually being able to tell how sane the world is by dislike ratio. i only ever used dislikes if something was genuinely bad or harmful and it was good to see that a lot of people agreed. actually made me think “thanks god at least the majority knows that this thing is bad or misinformation” but now we can’t. idk feels weird.
One thing you forgot to mention when responding to the goo line: We're not the end product. Creationists always think that evolution was intentionally aiming for humans, the ego on that one...
Ah yes, a body that starts decaying after about a quarter of a century, can't hydrate from the most plentiful water source on earth (sea), is filled with useless stuff like the appendix, has a messed up spine, birth being potentially fatal.... Makes you long for the elegant brilliance of a lobster.
"How do you not see the glory in evolution?" That sentence really got me. I'll never be able to understand how people can not be in total awe and fascination of the science that surrounds us everywhere.
Ikr... Once I was at a natural science museum with one of my friends and they had one hallway covered in LEDs to make it look like stars. When I was rambling about how cool stars and the universe in general is, they were just saying "could we just sit here and look at it? It's so pretty, I don't care about the science"... Like, what now?!
@@petrichor9417 oh my gosh I feel your pain , everyone just gives me a blank stare whenever I go off about how crazy the natural laws of the universe actually are. “ouuu stars pretty science boring”
@@lwandilengubane9638 Sad. I have quite a bunch of friends and family who love this stuff, so I recommend finding fellow science enthusiasts to gush over astronomy! I know I've had some amazing talks.
"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whist this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." -Charles Darwin, 1859
is this the same bullshit that Jordan Peterson and Dennis Prager pull? "I do not believe this, but i think Society needs people to be tied down in christian values and morals or hell will break loose for me and my rich friends" (the friends apply more to oil money sponsored Prager U than JP, but well... He seems otherwise very elitist too)
Yeah and they justify it like "Well, yeah it's wrong, but I have to lie. Otherwise they might get turned away from their savior." Basically "I have to do this very unchristian thing to justify making sure everyone else gets to be Christian."
@@Mark-Wilson Evolution is a theory, not a fact. A man's imagination. I am not a monkey man. I am a human being. One cannot be both, an animal and a human at the same time. Humans have a spirit, animals do not.
I like how clean his PhD Labcoat is. I'm a chemistry PhD student and you can generally tell how far along one of us is by the number of stains on our lab coats. lol
I love him saying ‘I can’t believe you would make this without thinking about the ramifications’ The guy who wrote this 100% knows what he’s doing, he wants the ramifications. He wants the next generation to be ‘distrustful of science’, that is the point.
No. He doesn't. Stop it with the elaborate conspiracies on how evil liars want to spread misinformation. These people just don't know anything about science but think they know more than those who do. That's it.
A lot of religions preach that knowledge is the enemy of god. I don't understand how that's a good thing. If God wants us to be stupid and unknowledgeable, then he's a pretty cruel and malevolent god. But the really sad thing about it is that it's true. Knowledge really is the enemy of god. Which is a huge part of why I'm an atheist. The existence of a god makes absolutely no sense.
This is why the entire crux of sin was KNOWLEDGE. Highly educated people don't accept religion at face value, and most, after questioning it reject it.
@@Trollsagan69420 what the heck does communism have to do with any of this? The word "goo" simply means a viscous liquid like blood, or bone marrow. If something large and heavy were to fall on you then you would indeed be a pile of chunky goo
@@Trollsagan69420 so what's that gotta do with this guy who is simply explaining why the person who made the song didn't understand the concepts he was presenting to children? (Also I can link videos too, see th-cam.com/video/p1aRjjbrM_o/w-d-xo.html
@@Trollsagan69420 People: *talk about evolution* You: COMMUNISM! WE ALL NEED TO SUDDENLY START TALKING ABOUT COMMUNISIM! WHERE IS THE COMMUNISIM IN THIS ARGUMENT?!?
@@Trollsagan69420 you keep implying that we would understand if we follow your logic, however you have yet to provide a proper connection between a discussion on what constitutes the word "goo" and a political ideology.
"no guys seriously we have proof that there was a man in ancient rome named jesus christ. Therefore: All forms of evolution are lies and mountains of evidence mean nothing!"
My guy, he was using it as an example of a gross misrepresentation of beliefs. If you agreed with that statement, you’re just as uneducated as the guy in the music video.
@@bestestbread I see your point, but I also agree with them, as I probably understood in a different way than you did: he described Christianity playing the game of that preacher (which is also the game of most anti-evolutionists), using very few basic elements of the whole subject, distorting them and melting them to deliver a sum-up that has nearly nothing to do with the original topic. And, so, taking this in context, it "is the absolute best way I've ever heard someone describe Christianity"
@Umair yt After deciphering what you said there, the story of lungs is very interesting. It seems that rudimentary lungs developed on fish that lived in areas where due to changing conditions the water started to become deoxygenated, so they would go to the surface and 'gulp' air to compensate for this
@Umair yt well I think you should first learn how to use correct spelling and grammar so that you have a better chance at understanding the scientific research.
I thought "aw, it's quite a fun song, actually, and made me laugh". Then I thought, "I wonder why scientists don't write a fun song mocking the creationist standpoint ?" Then I realised, of course, scientists have more taste than to sink to that level.
Creationism does not inherently go against science if a creationist is loose enough with their ideals, so it is very difficult to even make a song mocking them without just dissing them needlessly. Whereas science is consistent. If you disagree with one scientist, you'll disagree with any other decent scientist in the same field. So, yeah, it's just kind of difficult. You have to make a song mocking a specific type of creationist who vehemently denies all things science. And then somehow clarify that you're doing that so people don't think you're just being rude.
@Hellfire LWD They just thought it was comedic. Kind of like that one flat earther skit where he told his son to tilt a marshmallow and then that caused it to get hot enough to catch on fire. It can be harmful but still well-made and funny. Sort of like dark humor, I guess.
My only point is that scientists probably have. As someone studying Environmental science, I say with love that absolutely scientists will do the PETTIEST things. Do not doubt the lows someone who spent 8 years of their life studying tadpole cannibalism will do.
Can't we start with the Intro to the Big Bang theory? ;) It may not be perfect as teaching medium, but it is orders of magnitude more correct than this sillyness. ;)
I like how you don’t just point out the wrong things about his arguments, but also the underlying issues the song causes. That just goes to show how much you truly care.
So I had a biology teacher in highschool, and he was my favorite. He was super passionate about his job. And the thing is? He was a super devout catholic. Went to church every sunday and everything. But he still understood that evolution has happened. In fact, he told us his own personal theory of how god set it all in motion as a beautiful art piece. His universe, chaotic yet beautiful. As an aethiest, of course, I don't believe his theory. But he was so passionate, and when I let him know, he told me that I have every right to believe what I want. That man was the best teacher I had.
That's the no true Scotsman fallacy. It's not like religious belief and scientific knowledge are 100 exclusive from one another, there's just disagreement when it comes to the explanation of why or how things are the way they are. Theistic evolution is a common belief. It doesn't make the teacher "not actually a catholic", just one with a little more education and understanding than many others.
Honestly, it feels so good that there's people like this in the world, and while I don't think that evolution is real, it still pleases me the creativity and passion some people have :)
For me, "there is a creator of the universe" and "Everything science has discovered is factual" are NOT mutually exclusive. What if "the creator" started/created the Big Bang, didn't elaborate further, and left this universe to do its own things? PS. I myself think that worshipping such an entity is pointless. He effing left!
@@goosebandicoot7083 Hi, raised Catholic here. There are plenty of Catholics (priests included) who believe in evolution and have gone through the necessary steps to be a Catholic. More and more Catholics accept that their understanding of how God created the world is not complete as we can’t even fathom what a day is for God. It could be billions of years for all we know. I won’t deny that there are issues with the Catholic Church, but this day, evolution isn’t really one of the. In fact, I’ve had a Catholic friend tell me that if someone they dated said the didn’t believe in Evolution, it was a dealbreaker. On the of chance you are a Catholic, your experience is very different than mine. However, I feel like you should know that being Catholic takes more than just going to church. It’s a cultural way of living and there are steps to being able to fully participate in all parts of the mass. You can be a scientist and Catholic, compared to some other variations of Christianity I’d say it’s easier to be both a scientist and a Catholic. So, don’t go knocking on people just cause they don’t fit your idea of what a Catholic should be. It’s a religion with a long complicated history, with admittedly dark parts of its past, but it’s survived as long as it has because like many things on this planet, it has “evolved”.
The problem with preachers is that whenever kids ask questions, the preacher would just give a vague, non-answer like "god works in mysterious ways" or "how dare you question god?!"
@@alligator_with_internet_access I was always told by my mom that this 'end of days' was predicted, and was probably happening right now. Asked her multiple times what it was, was always given very vague answers, and was scared to death of it for years. Did my own research, and it turns out that it's in a section of the bible that seems like one huge fever dream with visions of multi-winged creatures and a 'prediction' that was supposed to happen over 1000 years ago.
I've never seen anyone touch on the line "The end of which is you." Its become the part of the song that annoys me the most just because no ine points it out. Humans are not the intended end of evolution. Humans are just a relatively recent step in evolution. If we all die out, evolution is going to keep going. It's a naturally occuring process, not something with intent.
thats something that annoys me to about a lot of stuff i heard fundamentalists say as they already is trying to strawman evolution to crap... the idea that 'oh there must not only be a plan..a goal.. but humans must be the 'best' of it all..idiotic...
Religious people say that evolution teaches people that humans come from goo..while also saying that humans were made by clay..yea are they sure they're not talking about themselves?
@Solving Humanity if i would believe in a god, i would likely believe in nordic gods. The idea of just such powerful beings that don't create teirselfs the world, the world emerges from them as a result of their actions and abilities on their long lifes is incredible for me.
See, that last argument is something that always bugged me. "Science didn't do it, God did it with magic". I mean if God does exist wouldn't it be an insult to say it's all magical god-power, rather than some sort of unknowable genius capable of setting up an unfathomable complex system and setting it in motion? Reminds me of Family Guy where Peter is going on about a plastic bag in a eddy current being a metaphor for the profound nature of the universe - then it cuts to God on a cloud "IT'S JUST TRASH IN THE WIND! Do you have any idea how complicated your circulatory system is?!"
Nah That would mean people can achieve that stuff too if they studied it enough Magic god power however means mine is the ultimate Dad that can beat up all these scientists Dads
Absolutely. God is a being with unfathomable power, so it stands to reason he should be fully capable of forming a universe built on complex rules and systems that we ourselves can observe and learn.
@@coranbaker6401 or a very advanced being with the same capabilities. If humanity stays on the current trend of technological advances, in 500 years we could be creating our own little universal simulations, with our own advanced life forms - and we’ll be the gods
@@coranbaker6401 The problem is, that' goes against the Biblical teachings. The moment kids realize evolution happens to groups, not individuals they realize that Adam and Eve can not possibly be a true story. And the moment Adam and Eve is not true, then original sin isn't true either. That would mean Jesus had no reason to come back, no purpose. And if Jesus doesn't have any reason to be, then he can't be God. So it's just best to say, evolution is nonsense, Jesus is God, don't think about it. Don't investigate it. Science must be flawed if it doesn't come to my conclusion.
The thing is that he absolutely is thinking about the ramifications of his actions. This is what this guy actually believes. He also believes that convincing kids of this will save them from burning in Hell. On another note, my wife teaches in elementary school. She loves it for the same reasons you seem too. One of her favorites is when a kid finally understands something and she can see the "lightbulb come on". Well, that and all of the hugs.
Good TH-camr, really. A smaller GMS, which is nice to have on YT. But not a 'Healthy Atheist', but a 'Semi-Healthy Atheist', evidend by: -Mix-up of 'All Religion' and 'JUST Christianity'. Thats a common mistake. Very common. Some literally say 'Lets talk about Religion' and then proceed to only talk about Christians alone. -Nicely leaves out all positive points about Religion. Like Hope and much more. Talks as if its just some big negative ball of wool. -Leaves out entirely and never mentions the fact that people go from Atheist TO Religious also. Talks as if this doesnt exist, which appears biased, to say the least. -Talks sometimes like being Christian auto-turns you R-pist or makes you Stone people. Which is objectively wrong. Yeah, having heavy feelings about Stoning and R-pe is totally and utterly understandable, but: Whats unhealthier than to think all Christians are automatically bad people? Well, thats that. -Common Misunderstandings and widespread Misconception about the 'Plan' and the surrounding stuff.
@@slevinchannel7589 The positives of religion don't come only from religion or are just based on a lie. If being told you're getting a bonus on Friday makes you feel more hopeful, but then Friday comes around and you get no bonus, then telling you about the bonus didn't really give you hope. It gave you false hope.
@@zacheryeckard3051 The Basis; tht God exists; aint a LIe though. Its just not proven to be real. Thats not the same as a Lie; and its just objectively bad to leave all out all Positive Stuff about Religion. This TH-camr almost talks as if it turns you insta-bad-person if you believe in God. Lol?
Dude: look at all these missing links don't take scientists seriously guy they don't know what we looked like at this specific point Also dude: and adam was sad so he asked god for a wife so god took one of his ribs and made a woman ...makes perfect sense
I recommend the Books that the Famous Unhealthy Atheist 'Onision' wrote. Well, not the Books itself, but the Book-Reviews. Same for the Famous Unhealthy Theist 'Norman B.' and his Book 'Empress Theresa'. In short: Book-Reviews of 'Empress Theresa' and Onisions Books are always a BLAST. its hilarious how bad they are. Shows how you can get something out of Books so terrible they are funny to dissect and pity. Krimson Rogue and many other TH-camrs have had their Crack on those; its always hilarious, i say!
@@slevinchannel7589 I see that you are trying to make a point about hiw anyone of any religious background can be so wrong, but the thing is its clear you are being defensive, so I'm guessing you are some sect of Christianity, I grew up around a large number of Christians and whent through Catholic schools all my life and I'm still an atheist, yes people on beth sides of the line can be dumb, it's just looking at bible story's as literal is nonsensical and even religious leaders say not to
@@rediyuda I'm sorry but no "intelligent design" would create such a flawed organism such as us, we act as if we are the end point in evolution and that just because we developed language (that's the main thing that separates us from animals) it must mean that we where created purposefully
I went to a Christian school and I had a class where the teacher would use the exact same arguments against evolution. At the end we had to write a reflection about what we learnt in class (so he knew we were paying attention) and I wrote about exactly how every one of his arguments were wrong, catalogued by each week of class. I got a 20% because “I obviously didn’t listen in class or I would’ve realized that he was right”. 90% of the kids in that class all believed the teacher completely and years later they are still going around believing in the flawed info that was taught to them in that school.
As an outspoken atheist and IB / AP Biology educator; if I was told to teach that "some random magical sky daddy made a universe by voodoo magic " which is exactly what Creationism / Intelligent Designs states; I would resign that day! Religion poisons the mind with ancient, dogmatic, bullshit; all based on ignorant men {with the total science knowledge of a pre-schooler}, "making shit up" attempting to understand the natural world; failing at every point !
Not to mention the obvious followup question of “where the fuck did god come from?” Religion will survive for hundreds of years to come but it will do so through adapting to science rather than rejecting science. Just as it has always done
I wonder how it would be. An RPG is intrinsically narrative in nature so I think it's a really bad idea. But as a child I always dreamed on an actual evolution simulator where you could create life and see how it evolves in a custom enviroment. I'm obsessed with the idea of games that would require many experts to design
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 Species: Artificial Life, Real Evolution is what you're looking for! It has random mutations and evolves little bean creatures depending on the environment you select. It ain't perfect but it's trying. It's on steam
Yeah, I was unfortunately one of those poor children who heard stories and songs like this all the time growing up, and I just regurgitated them without thinking, because that was all I knew. It didn't help that I was "rewarded" by my family for regurgitating this sort of stuff with encouraging words and praise for sticking to my beliefs. So yeah, I was a very dogmatic person for most of my early life and into highscool. Luckily, I started questioning things and looking at what science was saying and I realized that what my church and family had been telling me all my life just doesn't add up. I have a friend I made in highschool, who was questioning things way before I was, to thank for pulling me out of my dogmatic existence and into the mindset of learning and being amazed at all the process of the world around me. Science and learning are really cool if you have the right mindset to see it.
I remember in my 4th year at a catholic school, 1 of the teachers asked the stuudents to ask any question. So I was thinking 'hmmm, how do birds fly', to which I did ask and had the entire class laugh at me. Then the teacher condescendingly said "because they have wings" Because I was a shy kid I didn't push forward on how that didn't really answer anything and changed my question to rockets flying. The answer to that was " because of the force". They all thought I was stupid for asking such "simple" questions and 1 kid came and asked me if I was alright. 1st year in engineering school and 1 of the profs said there aren't many stupid questions, as an example he said that he wouldn't be able to answer how birds fly because it so complicated. I thanked him and told him my story. He said that if the the answer was simply wings that people could just put on a pair of wings and fly. But yeah children need to just ask questions.
The question of why birds can fly is indeed complicated, but it’s partially because they have hollow bones, so very very light skeletal structures. Humans would not be able to fly even with proportionally sized wings because our skeletons are too heavy. And different birds fly in different ways, so yeah, it’s a lot of info that can’t be easily summarised. A hummingbird flies very differently from a condor, for example. And flying insects are different again.
@@hunterhuffman4520 When I asked that question, she didn't skip a beat and answered "Because they have wings" I could have mentioned it myself but I was 9 years old and the whole class was laughing at me, I was dying inside at the time
We absolutely need more scientific literacy. I remember arguing with a classmate of mine about creationism, and he legitimately claimed the big bang broke the law of conservation of mass
Yeah here's the thing. He's hiding behind the idea of it being "just a silly song, why so serious" to get away with saying basically wrong nonsense. Jokes work on levels of awareness, and I think it's pretty self-evident that the joke here is "isn't evolution so dumb". Calling it "the science of delusion" is a pretty blatant admission of that, and he's using the fact that the song restrains his phrasing to disguise that this is what he effectively, actually thinks, or at least wants his audience to think.
@@rplatt9829 I don't say that the message from the song is good, it isn't. That doesn't change the tune. Rap for example can have a great message, but I don't like it at all, regardless what message it has ... It's all a out the tune, not the message ... Maybe that is due to growing up in a non-English speaking country? When I heard English songs on the radio as a kid, I understood literally nothing. Yet some songs I liked and others I didn't. A good example would be, "Another brick in the wall" ... I liked that song, without knowing the message. And my uncle once asked me, if I'd knew what that song is about and I denied ... He then said, that I'd probable like it more if I would (being a child, school being bad etc.). So I guess this irrelevance towards the meaning of the lyrics still carries on, even though I do understand English now ... If I like the tune or the lyrics rhyme in a way I like (irrelevant if I understand them now or if I don't), then I find the song catchy or good. Regardless of what the meaning of the song is. It doesn't mean that I would recommend a song though, if I know what it is about and the message either sucks or is even going completely against my views ... Yet, it does not change anything from the initial catchyness of the song ... So I may even like musical tune with racist lyrics. I don't need to approve the lyrics, to like the tune. They are two completely seperate things to me.
I was one of those lied to kids. I was raised in the church, so my natural love of science was twisted through these lies. The decision of where I would spend my youth and energy was completely taken by these people. I was trained as an apologist to work on the front lines of their war. I was lied to by every single adult who I, being a child, should have been able to trust! I spent so many years not even knowing I was already entrenched in their game. It's subtle on purpose. It targets kids on purpose. Thank you for your anger at this filth who uses the trust and imagination of kids for their own gain.
It's sad that there are so many people who prefer to remain wrong rather than accepting the truth, and their response to finding out that they are fractally wrong is to try to make the rest of us wrong, too.
Forrest, this is not a SILLY little video. It was specifically constructed to misinform children - the author knows full well what he is doing and how he is misrepresenting evolution. So, nitpick every little bit as much as you like!
@@joseantoniovargas6548I learned about the paradoxical conundrums of abiogenesis. All that i keep learing about it is proof against it, unless you close one eye...
"Not as complicated as you fear"? Who would actually hope that the answers were as boring and progress-stagnating as "god created us in his image, the end"? Reality is luckily immeasurably more interesting and complex than this fairy tale.
@@notexturefound2376”every scientific field invented by a Christian” - never mind the Greeks, romans, Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, etc who studies the world.
@@notexturefound2376 Yeah, so long as you, like, actually explore that fascinating world. When a nationally-broadcasted radio pastor ran a discussion a few years back about how the people who study astronomy and the universe around us were wasting their time and being terrible people because "God put everything we need to see right here in front us," I lost a lot of tolerance for that sort of thing. You don't need to reject either science or religion to find joy and fascination in the world and universe around you. But there is an unfortunate trend amongst religious thought leaders of encouraging people to be incurious. Stop learning, stop broadening understanding, stop asking questions, because I have all the answers for you already.
I taught middle school math and science for years. They stumped me ALL THE TIME. Kids are awesome. Then I left teaching to make money. We need to pay teachers more.
Oh, the lie that Creationism is less complicated. Where did God come from? How exactly do His powers work? If you ignore most of the questions, sure, you can *pretend* your theory isn't complicated. But really, "a sentient being of immense power made Earthly life" just raises way more questions than it answers.
Really?..God has always existed.. yes it's hard to grasp your mind around that because of our finite nature..everything has a beginning and end to us..How exactly do his powers work? Really? He has no limits, he is truly all-powerful..he can do anything..(that doesn't mean he will...) and yes our "theory" (which is much more than a theory) is extremely complex..it's not easy to understand and no one has ALL the answers.. that is why we have faith..Also.. I know this will frustrate most but, there is much more evidence towards a Devine Creator than "evolution"
@@ShadowMageYTyou don't realize that your answers are all just ignoring the questions He asks a question and you're like "really you don't understand? that question doesn't apply so we don't have to answer it" You have yet to provide any evidence or anything close to an explanation for how something like that could be infinite. God does not have a theory accompanying it, the theory would be something that explains data and provides predictive model. and the idea that God exists is extremely basic has no evidence supporting it ahead and provides a predictive model that fails nearly 100% of the time If an alien that created humans actually existed and and didn't come about through abiogenesis and also there was an unending source of Power with a conscious behind it the theories behind that would be extremely complicated, that's not what you have Your explanations aren't hard to understand and contextualize because they're complicated or exist on a scale humans can't imagine, they just don't make any sense. Like insisting two plus two equals five and that we just don't understand complex math it goes into the theory that two plus two equals five, so that's why it doesn't make sense to us Or there's an infinite amount of zeros after the twos so that's why we don't understand where's the five is coming from Saying "God did and I can't explain how because it's complicated" is not a complicated Theory
@@FrancisR420 ok first of all, thank you for bringing up arguments in a polite way 😃I enjoy good conversations...ok I already said that his "powers" have no limits, he can do anything...what does that mean? Anything you can possibly think of, he's capable of this on the highest level..." "Oh, well can't he just murder billions, send people to Hell and do the most horrific things just because he wants to have fun? Technically, he would be able to, but he also has infinite love for us..our minds can't comprehend his limits because everything has limits to us on earth..he loves us more than anyone could ever love us, and that is why he doesn't just slaughter us in spite.." How could a God of love kill people and send them to Hell...I don't want to be apart of that!!" Well first of all we live in a fallen world..this means that we decided to sin and separate ourselves from God..EVERY person who ever lived (Besides Jesus) this is why natural disasters happen, wars, murder, disease. This all was the effect of our sins. How do we know God exists..he is not of this world so we can't just put him in a beaker, stir him around and say, "Here's proof!" The evidence is nature itself.. Everything in the entire universe points to nature. DNA, cosmic bodies, the mind, even the dirt that we are standing/sitting on. Let me ask you this question...how can a mindless process end up with VERY VERY complex organisms.. "BiLlIoNs oF YeArs!!" That's not how it works..life comes from previous life.. to say that chemicals and non-organic matter created simple organisms over time rejects the rules of nature. Yes, technically chemicals and non-organic matter take part in creating new life..but to create an entire organism from scratch with non-organic matter involved at all is impossible..Let me ask you this...what is the origin of the universe? If you think it has always been here..there is overwhelming evidence against that like an expanding universe, and a possible heat death in the future..if you say there was a big bang that came out of nothing and created everything including extremely complex life that is next to impossible to come from non-organic matter..why don't other things come out of nothing..why is there one exception to that rule? "My theory" is based on God's word, the Bible...the Bible is very complex..I said before, no one has all the answers to it..and that makes it sound that for anything we can't prove we just say, "Oh, have faith..I can't prove it so I'll just say that not everything is explainable" there are tons of unexplainable things in science as well To say there is "NO" supporting evidence to "My theory" is utterly ridiculous..there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to support it. The FACT that the Bible has not been disproven in thousands of years of history is evidence..with over 40 different authors and a span of about 4500 years of written history, the Bible is truly amazing..this is why I believe what I believe..let me know if you have any questions..thank you!
@@ShadowMageYT Evolution is an observation. There is so much evidence in favour of it that it is treated as a scientific fact. The theory is natural selection, that evolution (which we have observed) is caused by selective pressures caused by the environment. This is a well supported and robust theory. And no, it's not our job to disprove the bible. It's your job to provide supporting evidence for it. We have our supporting evidence, this was outlined in the video you're replying to. Take your pick of the fossil record, genetic phylogeny, genetic fossils, convergence or homology, all this strongly supports evolution by natural selection. We can't disprove the bible. It's inherently unfalsifiable. That's why the burden of proof is positive and goes to the person making a claim. We have our strong supporting evidence for evolution by natural selection, where's yours for the bible? It's not good enough to say it hasn't been disproven, the idea that I farted the universe into existence last Saturday and all your memories with it hasn't been disproven and can't be. It's obvious that can't be our standard. Limitless powers are also inherently self contradictory. The age old meme example is "could god cook a burrito so hot he couldn't eat it". While an obviously stupid example, it raises a point on the inherent cyclical and contradictory nature of theoretical omnipotence. Limitless powers should allow a god to create impossible and contradictory scenarios. We know the god of the bible is omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, this should mean that god wants to irradiate evil, knows how to irradiate evil and has the ability to irradiate evil. To pre-empt the counterargument, free will. This is where the infinitely hot burrito comes in. If god is truly omnipotent he should be able to create a universe where free will does not conflict with the irradiation of evil. Even if those two statements are contradictory, if he can't do it there is a limit to his power. He can't break contradictions. If he can break contradictions then something else clearly doesn't add up. Also, I have no problems wrapping my head around something that's always existed. I have no reason to doubt that in some form the universe has always existed. Time and space as concepts may not have, but the universe existed before the big bang. This is something that's generally agreed upon. We have no idea what the state of the universe before the big bang could have been, because the event obscures any current methods we have of viewing before it, but we're reasonably certain the universe didn't come from nothing. There's some hypotheses but there's really no reason to give any of them any more weight than god right now.
@@zikuanli8483 I mean, YHWH is a deity of rage. Genesis 4, wasn't it, he flooded the planet and killed all life except 7 people and 2 of each animal. His reason was that humanity was too busy having sex to praise him every second of every day, and that is a crime humanity can't be forgiven for. So "angry murder bee" is right in line with what God would make. As is a parasite that spreads through shit as it sucks your life ever so progressively.
Sorry, the "we started off as a blob of goo" is the most flawed argument when targeting your message to kids. Most kids are going to think it's the coolest thing ever that they were once goo. They will want to believe we started off as goo! Jeez, know your audience, zealot.
Actually people on the frog community use the word polliwog as a tadpole that does not yet have any leg growth yet. So it is a very young tadpole. Frog enthusiasts still use that word 😊
Finally someone said it how badass the development of life on earth is. The beginning would literally be the cd art of a metal band. Earths bombardment.
It felt as if you really got enraged at the idea of telling lies to the youth, I could feel the passion in it. It's really nice to see someone who still has passion like this.
@@vavalaz yes, because they have "been appearing" for centuries now, it's just people looking for coincidences that resembles what they want so they find it, like the constilations we look for patterns we find them
I dont believe so many coincidences in years near eachother should be labeled as unimportant, and i mean, where did anything come from? what made the big bang, and what made that thing happens? and what made that thing happen and so on, its logical to say something always existed, which would mean something that doesent have to follow our logic.@@DAuthoR
"The end of which is you" I appreciate him talking out the science, but this line frustrates me even more than the goop part. It's really crazy how most people, especially creationists, seem to have this idea in their head that WE (right now) are the End-All-Be-All of evolution. Like, it's cute that you think that, but there's more to this universe than UsRightNow. Humanity 2021 isn't the end of our evolutionary timeline.
I'm off the opinion that we as humans won't evolve anymore simply because what is there to threaten us as a species to change. The list is non-existent, anything that can harm us a species is something we won't be able to deal with
But this is exactly the reason why so many people deny evolution. Admitting that our existence is nothing more than some sort of coincidence makes humans less special. It goes against the narrative that the world was made for us. But that's exactly what those people want to believe, what they cling to. It's not that they wouldn't be able to look at the evidence and understand, they simply don't want to. They chose not to. So making false arguments and poking holes in them is just for them to feel better about themselves.
Yup .Ive personally never understood the appeal of “ it’s so comforting that your a horrible dirt being whose sole purpose is to stroke the ego of god. in fact your so horrible that you deserve to literally be on fire forever but don’t worry , you can get out of it by stroking gods ego forever !”
@@thetoughunicorn1679 It was when they left because they were the first two humans to be made. It was soon stopped unless the need to repopulate the earth was dire, as in after the flood event. And actually they're not bother and sister, they're husband and wife. Big difference.
As well as Matt Powell. His utter lack of understanding of even basic science rivals Ray, excepting that Ray has had the science broken down for him, and he only continues to lie because he has a financial stake in continuing to pretend he doesn't understand it.
Reading the comments, it makes me so glad that my parents always taught me that critical thinking is one of the most important skills and that I should pursue what I want and didn't try and indoctrinate me. So here I am, studying for a PhD in quantum imagining and they're incredibly happy, even if they have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about when I try and explain it 😂
My parents indoctrinated me, unfortunately for them they also taught me critical thinking as they believed it is imperative to test everything, a slogan from 119 ministries. Well I did that and our cult religion made no sense at all. So now im a secret agnostic.
"Believe in the Jewish Zombie or have your ghost burn" - Finally, I can make allegories for Christianity that aren't mega obvious in my fiction writings (Also, yes knowing about reality helps a lot in writing fiction, it's a "learn the rules before you bend them" thing in my experience)
I respect that. I wish a lot of the science fiction writers of popular shows cared more about the science aspect. First rule in science fiction, don't talk about the science! Lol
That's still mega obvious, just off enough to be insulting and having been used as such so many times it's no longer funny. For better examples of non-mega-obvious Christian allegories: Transformers Sailor Moon Revolutionary Girl Utena Diablo Pokémon (Arceus and Xerneas are literally God and Jesus, but subtly instead of Aslan running around roaring it in a bullhorn) Persona (as opposed to the mainline SMT which _is_ mega obvious) Final Fantasy The Legend of Zelda Digimon (sometimes mega obvious, sometimes not) Sonic the Hedgehog The Lord of the Rings
@@autobotstarscream765 LoZ started out being very obvious, with Link's shield having a literal cross and an item literally being called the Bible in an early game (though I think it was changed for the Western translation to not upset people). I'd say modern LoZ isn't a Christian allegory anymore though, Christians don't own the idea of gods (in fact they reject gods PLURAL) or good Vs evil as a sort of magical force Sorry, I'm just a big LoZ fan who's massively invested in the fictional cultures and worldbuilding in Hyrule, including the religion, and the distinctions from real life religions is part of why it's so fascinating to me, it's not just a pure reskin of something else, but it shares enough traits to be believable as a religion (except since it's fiction it's definitely real considering there's actual observable magic for them, lol. Sorry I'm an atheist so I don't see Christianity as "cannon")
@@vaughnhaney7020 I know about all that, but some elements that remain do seem to retain a certain level of influence, like how the Triforce Goddesses are a Triad represented by three triangles that form one triangle, like how St. Patrick described the Trinity in terms of the 3-leaf shamrock. ☘
I think it's completely acceptable to nitpick every aspect of this video. Regardless of the simplicity of language used, that language should be accurate. Whether or not this video is intended for children, the simplistic and reductive language seems intentionally chosen to make the theory of evolution - and scientists themselves - seem stupid. This video is an intentional attempt to misinform children in order to further a religious agenda.
@@jacobostapowicz8188 Except that we've proven that evolution happened to some capacity many, many times. We didn't just pop into existence out of nowhere
@@titus4440What was proved? That organisms are adaptive to climate conditions but never generate new viable genetic sequencing. The information is already there in the dna but nothing new appears out of nowhere
in defense of anyone who said the song is catchy, i will definitely be humming this at work later. like, it’s pretty bad and the “arguments” are horrendous, but i don’t think i’m gonna be able to get this out of my head for a while💀
@@justanotherdayinthelife9841 haha yeah, i was most definitely not saying that man had any ounce of talent or that it’s super original or even a good tune. it is, however, unfortunately very catchy imo. but yeah lmao NOT saying that dude is an alright songwriter
From a very young age I was pretty interested in animals and nature documentaries, and when I first learned about evolution I was fascinated and thought it was really neat that we were related to other great apes like chimpanzees. Little animal lover me was delighted to discover that I was just another species of animal. Imagine how little eight year old me felt when I started telling my classmates about evolution and they began to bully me for thinking we "came from monkeys" and laughed at me and made fun of me. I genuinely remember learning about Darwin being made fun of for his theory of evolution and thinking "hey, I had a similar experience, just not about my own ideas." I wonder if any of those kids remember bullying me for talking about evolution, and if they feel stupid now that they've learned about evolution in school? Not claiming I was some magical expert on evolution at that age too, I had a very poor understanding at the time, I was no child genius! Just a kid really interested in learning about the natural world. Which is what led me to be studying a STEM course today! xD Glad I did not stumble across videos like this when I was that age, I probably would have fallen for it and thought this was how evolution works.
As a Christian man I can say on behalf of millions of Christians that we do not claim him. He does not represent us. We hope he stops probably more than you do. Thank you for your time.
Doesn't matter. You're gonna get strawmanned whether you like it or not because the internet is full of kids that are pissed off their parents forced them to go to church as a kid.
Yeah im a Christian and I'm working hard to try and get my dad to believe in evolution because he was indoctrinated with this kind of stuff when he became a Christian, and it's all coming from their MASSIVE AND I MEAN MASSIVE misinterpretation of Genesis, Genesis is a temple text not a historical account of creation, so the Bible has nothing to say on the ABSOLUTE beginning point and I believe the churches denial of science leads to many people rejecting christianty because Christians don't like evolution and evolution is factual so...As a theistic evolutionist, Christians doing this kind of thing it pisses me off too
Plus the genocide in the Bible. 1 Samuel 15 3 "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys"
@@LisaAnn777 That literally doesn't have anything to do with evolution. Just because god supports genocide does not mean creationism is not believable.
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 it means your deity is a psychopath if he exists, and isn't worthy of worship. Most people have what they call empathy and don't support genocide if any kind. Don't give af about evolution. The Bible men are made of dirt and woman from a man's rib, it's completely braindead.
I imagine that the reason why they don't see glory in evolution, bc that would mean they are not special and weren't created by some deity. quite the blow to the ego
By their logic god made everything for us so he would’ve made the Big Bang and evolution for us to discover but no they don’t wanna believe things THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN are fake
@@mcbuttstuff yes, and this god also created a band of charlatans that worship him and spread disinformation for the lulz, as if to strictly prove against his so-called "glory"
So… I only just came across this channel like 2 days ago… and I also started my college biology class yesterday. I think I’m going to subscribe. *Oh yeah, it’s all coming together* In all seriousness, I have itch to learn as much as I can, and watching this channel along side my biology studies is a great opportunity to learn more. Education can be really fun if you just have the right mindset
the excitement this man shows is so nice when he starts talking about teaching kids. He seems like he would be just the kind of cool science teacher that you want at a school. Keep up the great work!
Yes. The message is gross. Indoctrination is just wrong. We should teach young people to be critical thinkers. That being said, I've been a musician since 1976..... Musically, this is trash.
Mmmmm, I-IV-V-I harmony, a basic drum beat and a mediocre singer fumbling to find something that rhymes with ‘evolution’. This guy is really putting out top tier content.
@Tsinatkeab Massebo But I really do "understand religion". I'm always willing to learn more though. What is your understanding of religion? Anyhow, my comment was more about the music and the ignorant message of intolerance.
@Tsinatkeab Massebo Interesting. What can you teach me about indoctrination and how I am wrong about it? Also, I'm still waiting to learn what you have to teach me about religion.
I teach college physical anthropology classes, and many of my students tell me (after we rather exhaustively cover evolution) that this level of quackery is what their understanding of evolution had been prior to taking my course. It's really, really sad.
"If you've never been stumped by the questions of a room full of 1st graders, then you've never been a teacher." Probably the BEST quote on the TH-cams for a long time!!
I like how you don't necessarily try to attack religion in itself. I love seeing the facts and evidence you talk about and how you mostly focused on the positive.
I'm glad for it because many many religions are not creationist. It's stupid. Evolution so obviously exists. I'm a Catholic, and Catholicism supports evolution. In fact, on of the first major individuals to study genetics, Mendel, was a Catholic monk. Also, in the first book of the bible, Genesis, the creation story is written in a type of Hebrew poetry, and is not meant to be taken exactly.
honestly not sure why this video popped into my recommended list today but i am glad it did because this video really gave me the same kind of vibe steve irwen gave off when he was teaching people about animals and I haven't gotten that feeling since... well actually since the last time i watched a video of steve irwen teaching people about animals I really hope the rest of your videos are like this too, you just earned yourself a subscriber, please keep doing what you are doing
There was this one video that I saw I forget what it was called, sorry, but it was an experiment performed by I believe Stanford University where bacteria was put on a glass platform. The bacteria would die and breed extremely quickly so over the course of ten days they would make it across the board. The only catch was that there was anti-bacteria in different quantities along the board. The bacteria starts without any resistance and moves on to an extremely low concentration of biocide. Eventually a line of bacteria will grow resistant and start going further. The amount of anti-bacteria increases exponentially until it reaches 100x the concentration that was at the start, and the bacteria made it all the way across in like 10 days. It was a really cool showing of micro-evolution that I think really pushed my full belief in evolution.
Don't take the Bible literally, or you may end up going astray. Priests study the Bible for _decades_ to properly understand what the texts actually mean.
Gotta love how religious people literally only need ONE really old book and that is all the proof. Yet science has had so much time and effort put into it to help us understand so much but somehow that is all false?! Huge reason why I turned away from religion. Love your content man!
That’s not really how it works but at least you tryed to prove a point now please keep your anti religion thought to yourself because honestly no one wants to hear you take a massive load on what they believe in
@@Mr.StopMotion Kind of like how no one wants to hear this completely unproven BELIEF (aka means it has no factual proof) pushed constantly in the most hypocritical way! Everyone ignoring all the holes in it all and expecting people to just take it because why?…..Just because its in a really old book. Smh. Just because you believe something doesn’t mean its true. And I know the same can be said to me with believing it isn’t true. At the end of the day, I can actually accept I may actually be wrong.. But anyway, thanks for the comment. Take care.
Do I need to draw a picture for you? This is how much proof of god ______________________________________ And this is how much proof there is of monke become man ______________________
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.
Funny that out of all the theories out there, including: -Cell Theory -Germ Theory -Tectonic Plate Theory -Quantum Theory -Big Bang Theory (Bazinga) -Gravity -Antimatter Theory -Einstein's Theory of relativity -Atomic Theory -Social Learning Theory People are only concerned with using the 'just a theory' excuse with one
I always get super excited when Forrest starts talking science, it's so fascinating to learn about ATP and protozoa and he shares his knowledge on the subject it's captivating! in all honesty It's annoying to go back and listen to the dribble presented in the song, but it makes for an entertaining video. because of this I am going to expand my understanding on ATP and how mitochondria do what they do, it's really quite fascinating
A lot of Christian arguments don't account for the ability to change the mind. This seems to be a common issue amongst conservative viewpoint in general. The thing is, in Christianity there is no discovery. There is no "learning new facts" and "making decisions about what is more accurate." Everything is laid out in a book and questioning that book is taboo. This creates this impasse where the book can't be held up to science because that would be questioning the book. That, along with all the indoctrination that goes on in every church I have ever been to, leads to people not bothering to question. The Christian bible isn't updated. Even if we make discoveries about the times it was written about, the book doesn't get changed. There are re-translations, but even those have cultural inadequacies. The age and unchangeability of our good book makes science, which is constantly changing, learning, and re-orienting seem comparatively wishy washy. (That is the technical term.) Also, when your standard is something that never changes, broad and outdated scientific statements hold as much weight as more recent specific discoveries. This is a large reason why I deviated from organized church. They indoctrinate you to not think and not question while shaming those that do, rather than trying to work with them to learn and combine these two fields of study. There are aspects of the Bible that I do believe scientists tend to dismiss out of hand, which I don't completely agree with either. That said, I suspect that scientists(far too broad generalization, I know, and sorry for it) give the Bible more of a fair shake than crappy half-baked over-indoctrinated Christians give them. You are very generous with your 2/10 boss. Be fair and give this one a 0. Maybe a 1 if you want to give brownie points for knowing the word quadruped but that's' still generous.
@@massacred666 In my personal experience having discussions with various scientists (had a few of these, I used to travel a lot and it's amazing what you can get strangers to talk about in airports) they tend to fall into the "either, or" fallacy pitfall. We can't prove this magical space-time-make-something-from-nothing entity exists, therefore it doesn't. Mind you- my sample size is absolutely tiny- about four conversations, give or take. The most reasonable one still held this view point but in more of a "we don't know so we can't know" kind of way. I think that's a different fallacy but I really don't feel like looking it up right now. So, essentially the existence of God, to start. The second idea is that evolution is guided. Again, basically for the same reasons. While Christians tend to be too keen on identifying patterns and using them as proof, scientists are too quick to dismiss such patterns as coincidence when there is no proof that it is. There was more, but this was over the span of around the last 15 years so there is a lot I don't remember. But that's just my observations and opinion derived from my personal experience. It would be fascinating to have some far reaching polls done to prove or disprove it but I do not have the reach to do so, nor the gumption. The bottom line to me is that both sides have some merit that should be investigated, and I am satisfied with that. A more ambitious person with more of an interest in studying society and human interaction might like more though. At this point it would be fair to call it a stereotype I have developed based on personal experience. Sorry for wall of text.
@@Eranderil , not at all. I think those are valid points and I see what you mean. The vehement passion is probably due to the equal vehemence on the religious side. A combination of a certain amount of distain against religion, caused e.g. by the overconfidence in something with religious proof but not observable/scientific proof, or having religion shoved down their throats, is likely a factor in a lot of cases. I'm in the same boat as what you mentioned, in that I see no evidence either way, so it's kind of a non-conversation. In my mind it's simply "yes, here's the religious proof", Vs "very unlikely, as there's no observable/scientific proof". As with many discussions, language doesn't necessarily mean the same thing to everyone and sometimes that may clear things up. Mind you, some people do see a book or a tradition or verbal story to be absolutely equivalent to visible, live measures, which, while I don't agree, I can understand how the mind can think that way. We probably all did at some point in our lives. In school we're taught to follow books and that they're correct, for example. Only when you learn that have revisions do you realise that everything you're passed and failed on is the current understanding. And hopefully you aren't learning from an old textbook. I can also see an argument that in some respects, seeking something specific in science that has also illuded us, like proving a unified theory, is, in some ways, similar to seeking an illusive deity. Through the lense of a religious-proof-mind it's equally possible with equal amounts of signs and evidence. So, I can see how people can feel religion is equivalent to, or better than the other frameworks of understanding, but similarly how those of a scientific disposition can readily conclude it's not true the same way they might observe the insides of a box and state there's nothing inside. There we go. Wall of text Bros.
What you said: "You are setting kids up to fail, and as an educator that pisses me off." What people like him think to themselves when they hear you say that: "If I'm pissing people off, I MUST be right!" Dare to be Stupid, son.
Is there a song out there that does the same thing but strawmanning creationists? Oh wait. Creationism doesn't need to be strawmanning because it's obviously wrong.
_A sacrifice is rather nice, so Abe go grab your knife,_ _and stab your son until he's done to gain eternal life._ _Build a boat, it's gonna rain, for forty days and nights,_ _Now all the world, should bow before, the chosen Israelites!_ _They say that God is right and just, almighty well and good,_ _He always drives a brand new Dodge, with Hemi under-hood._ _Well God was pissed with man until, that Jesus came along,_ _He suplexed Satan back to hell, and then He wrote this song!_
@@MrShnazer The hell you mean copy and paste? I came up with that on the spot, or rather, over the course of about ten minutes. Show me the original if I copy-pasted.
@@walnutoil100 show me evidence for the non-existence of unicorns and vampires and we'll show you the same for the non-existence of god. The only "evidence" against is the lack of evidence _for._ That's just how things work my man.
6:43 I totally agree! And even as a 20 year old biology student, I had already internalized the idea that evolution would choose what it wanted to be and that everything wanted to eventually become a human. But now begs the question: What would be a better way to teach this concept to kids, so they don't carry these kinds of misconceptions into their adulthood?
My guess is something simple like how the species of plant that has a green flower and a white flower (might be wrong about the colours) that due to humans picking the white flowers the plants are more likely to grow green flowers. Something that shows an external action and a consequence
@@isdrakon9802 im not a scientist, but its possible that they developed darker pigmets on the top of their skin which would be facing the sun, and the darker pigments would help protect them from the cancer causing UV rays
@@aradia9726 I'm late to this party, but the darker skin on top for stuff dwelling in the ocean is actually because, when you're looking down from higher up, the deep ocean looks very dark, so darker colors is camouflage, much like when you look up its lighter, so the lighter underbelly is also camouflage.
The idea that all animals have special abilities and senses that we don't have should be enough to consider that humans are not "the best result of evolution". Even our closest cousins the chimps have better strentgh, speed, visual memory and other traits than us.
I am personally less charitable than you, I see his condencing attitude while he's completely wrong on the subject and can't "just forgive it for being a silly little song". As you say it's also a massive issue that people whose parents think he's an authority will preach that screwed view and hinder their development of knowledge
Good TH-camr, really. A smaller GMS, which is nice to have on YT. But not a 'Healthy Atheist', but a 'Semi-Healthy Atheist', evidend by: -Mix-up of 'All Religion' and 'JUST Christianity'. Thats a common mistake. Very common. Some literally say 'Lets talk about Religion' and then proceed to only talk about Christians alone. -Nicely leaves out all positive points about Religion. Like Hope and much more. Talks as if its just some big negative ball of wool. -Leaves out entirely and never mentions the fact that people go from Atheist TO Religious also. Talks as if this doesnt exist, which appears biased, to say the least. -Talks sometimes like being Christian auto-turns you R-pist or makes you Stone people. Which is objectively wrong. Yeah, having heavy feelings about Stoning and R-pe is totally and utterly understandable, but: Whats unhealthier than to think all Christians are automatically bad people? Well, thats that. -Common Misunderstandings and widespread Misconception about the 'Plan' and the surrounding stuff.
@@slevinchannel7589 what in the world are you talking about. Your points don't even hold as the video talks about specific videos not necessarily the whole og religion (btw It's weird you talk about conflating and then claims that hope is something inherent to Religion)
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Yeah, this song would have made me suspicious as a kid. Anytime I noticed authorities poking fun at something it usually made me wonder what they were so afraid of...
Preacher: “can you believe it? This scientist say we came out of goo (wrong), unbelievable!”
Also preacher: “anyways god made man out of MUD”
How much DNA should we have in common with dirt? ;)
And a woman was made of a rib...
@@moralkombat66 a rib with only male genes....
"Thou art dust and to dust thou shall return"...how do these preachers forget that?🤣
Clay and air actually so much more believable lol
Fun fact: That video had about 1k views (after being up for 2 years) when I responded to it in 2017. I think my viewers had something to do with that glorious ratio. 😂 Great response, man! I love seeing a REAL science teacher take this on.
Well done! You should be proud 😀
Love your videos dude!
GMS is still kinda better than this channel here though.
But yeah, good! Buuut improveworthy also.
Please give Valkai a shoutout, people deserve a good biology teacher on TH-cam!
YOOOO I love your content man!! Cool seeing you here 😎
"You know what you're going to get with evolution."
Crab. You get crab.
EVERYTHING LEADS TO CRAB
Crab was the ultimate goal all along!
You ain't wrong everything will end with crab probably
At our primal level well are just go snip snip
It might be Krab, but that's still good.
Or if you're a mammal then you get weasel.
After hearing this song I actually find it a bit easier to believe that at least some people evolved from a glob of goo.
Surprised Forrest didn't take the opportunity to say something like that.
underrated comment
Are you sure they evolved, though?
@@JeffreyChadwell heh
As a certified goo beliver, we do not accept this idjit.
I love when creationist don’t understand that neither the Big Bang or abiogenesis have anything to do with evolution. Evolution says nothing about how life began just why we have such diversity in life
Understandable, in a way. Their model of the universe covers everything, from egg to apple. The creation of the universe itsself, substance, stars, planets, life, species, all in one unified model that is simple, elegant, and wrong. So naturally they expect the rival model, 'evolution' to likewise cover everything that is or was.
Evolution doesn't explain where the stars came from? Hah! Then how can it explain everything? Checkmate, atheists.
@@vylbird8014 it’s only simple if you ignore all science, the amount of gymnastics they do would earn them then gold in every Olympic category
Creationists conflate the fact of evolution with the scientific theory of natural selection. They aren't going to disprove either because even if that were plausible, it would require doing actual science. It's also irrelevant because disproving evolution by means of natural selection doesn't suddenly make the god proposition more acceptable. Those who disbelieve in evolution don't care to understand it.
@@wadewilson6628 no one knows. But I can tell you what didn’t start it. Evolution. Because it literally has nothing to do with cosmology
@@wadewilson6628 What started the big bang may be a nonsensical question to begin with. Physics breaks down at the singularity as well as spacetime.
"You're creating the next generation of flat-earthers and anti-vaxers."
You hit the nail on the head.
Trying to create Young Earthers creates Flat Earthers?
Oh well, those two are basically in the same place anyway.
The bible says there is a dome (the firmament) over the Earth. It is impossible to have a single dome over a sphere, the Earth must be flat according to scripture, so yeah, believing in god and the bible actually requires you to be a flat-Earther.
@@teacherdave27 Unless you recognize that the atmosphere is a round firmament around a round world.
The "Biblical case for a flat Earth" went in the trash centuries ago, and the "Biblical case for a young Earth" is actually a relatively recent development and it's already going the way of the former.
Sorry, check your bible and try again. It says the firmament is a glass dome (the atmosphere is not a dome, it is also a sphere) with holes where the light of heaven shines through (nope, those are stars) and the where the “waters above” (that don’t exist, we looked ) drip through as rain (wrong again, rain comes from clouds), it says the sun and moon are inside the dome (not even close) and that they are the same size (waaaaay wrong !), etc., etc., etc. Try reading the stupid thing before you use it to defend against a position it clearly favours. My point stands.
@@teacherdave27 Your interpretation is but one of many, and you have yet to convince me that your particular interpretation is the one true way of thinking.
What translation are you using?
Can you cite chapter and verse for every point of your specific interpretation?
You joined the conversation and made the outlandish claim that's often parroted on social media but which has been repeatedly discredited, so the burden of proof relies on _you._
Man was created from a pile of dirt and woman from a rib,but a pile of goo is unbelievable.
Haha nice catch
when your textbook for all worldly information is condensed into one extemely fallible ancient text that can't even get its lore straight, absolutely.
It would make more sense if it was Adam's bacculum.
Not much more sense but some.
When I eat ribs, am I considering a cannibal? ☹ ...asking for a friend.
@@chatboulon743
If you eat at that diner in Fried Green Tomatoes.
The secret is in the sauce.
This is why TH-cam should have never removed dislikes. Kids will see the music video and not realise how fucking fake all the information is.
They removed dislikes because the exact opposite problem was happening- mobs of anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers were dislike-bombing every video in existence that talked about covid precautions, vaccines, etc. Online anti-science lunatics are a loud minority, but they're a _very_ loud minority
One thing I miss about the dislikes been removed is putting in something along the lines of (number of dislikes) people have had (something relevant to the video) happen to them.
@@Lord_Skeptici miss actually being able to tell how sane the world is by dislike ratio. i only ever used dislikes if something was genuinely bad or harmful and it was good to see that a lot of people agreed. actually made me think “thanks god at least the majority knows that this thing is bad or misinformation” but now we can’t. idk feels weird.
@@styrofoam4637THANKS, SUSAN.
I believe the singer did, in fact, start out as a glob of goo. Unfortunately, he never progressed beyond that stage.
to be fair, humans do start as a glob of goo....but it isn't green, it's white
@@SorenPenrose lmao oh nooo
Depends. I’d say we start out as a very small glob of egg cells
This should win a comment of the year award. Priceless! :-D
He’s like Rob Reiner in south park. A giant glob of goo in a skin suit.
"I don't understand evolution and I need to protect my children from understanding it"
- Futurama
Ahahahah. That really is their way of thinking
That's my mom
You can replace evolution with anything religous people are afraid of and it would hold true.
Lmao ikr we been over this 100 times
Edgy atheist
I literally took a long drag of coffee and said, “Apes don’t have tails.” I think you might be my spirit animal.
Unless they are Saiyans lmfao
@@Sunflower-ts7fy Crap, I learned something new today. Also, do you have any dragon balls for sale?
@@MetaphorUB sale? No but I do have this nifty Ball finder
For the Horde!
Lol, I also said it right before he did
The only reason I like the Primordial Soup theory is because it allows me to find a way to make soup the pinnacle of all things
All praise the Holy Soup, from which we all come and shall all return! May the soup never scald you. Amen.
Theirs no recipe , no Chef therefore the true label is Primeval Slop. ? ? 😉😆🐷🐖 suck on that 😧👎👎
I think Primordial Soup just sounds like a really interesting soup flavour
@@winkstack6410 Cthulhu recommended
Mmmmm...primordial soup
First time watching Forrest, and I gotta say, describing a "wall of human names" as "thick and delicious" is one hell of an introduction.
One thing you forgot to mention when responding to the goo line: We're not the end product. Creationists always think that evolution was intentionally aiming for humans, the ego on that one...
In a billion years Advanced idiots are going to look back on humanity and say "you think we came from that glob of goop?"
Good god yes, this!
People aren't the final shape.
Ah yes, a body that starts decaying after about a quarter of a century, can't hydrate from the most plentiful water source on earth (sea), is filled with useless stuff like the appendix, has a messed up spine, birth being potentially fatal.... Makes you long for the elegant brilliance of a lobster.
Anthropocentrism, or the idea of human supremacy. It's honestly so annoying.
@@aloevera5600
Well, we are supreme.
"How do you not see the glory in evolution?"
That sentence really got me. I'll never be able to understand how people can not be in total awe and fascination of the science that surrounds us everywhere.
Ikr... Once I was at a natural science museum with one of my friends and they had one hallway covered in LEDs to make it look like stars. When I was rambling about how cool stars and the universe in general is, they were just saying "could we just sit here and look at it? It's so pretty, I don't care about the science"... Like, what now?!
@@petrichor9417 oh my gosh I feel your pain , everyone just gives me a blank stare whenever I go off about how crazy the natural laws of the universe actually are. “ouuu stars pretty science boring”
@@lwandilengubane9638 Sad. I have quite a bunch of friends and family who love this stuff, so I recommend finding fellow science enthusiasts to gush over astronomy! I know I've had some amazing talks.
It got me too!
"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whist this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved." -Charles Darwin, 1859
Fun Fact: From my experience most of those jerks actually know damn well it's wrong. Don't ever hold back my dude.
is this the same bullshit that Jordan Peterson and Dennis Prager pull? "I do not believe this, but i think Society needs people to be tied down in christian values and morals or hell will break loose for me and my rich friends" (the friends apply more to oil money sponsored Prager U than JP, but well... He seems otherwise very elitist too)
No. People really like to say ignorants are actually evil liars in disguise when it's just not true.
Yeah and they justify it like "Well, yeah it's wrong, but I have to lie. Otherwise they might get turned away from their savior."
Basically "I have to do this very unchristian thing to justify making sure everyone else gets to be Christian."
@@gwenturo9550lying for Jesus is good apparently
@@Mark-Wilson Evolution is a theory, not a fact. A man's imagination. I am not a monkey man. I am a human being. One cannot be both, an animal and a human at the same time. Humans have a spirit, animals do not.
I like how clean his PhD Labcoat is. I'm a chemistry PhD student and you can generally tell how far along one of us is by the number of stains on our lab coats. lol
Almost as clean as Chemist Scientist Auto-mechanic Midhusband Father-of-Eight Happily-Married-Man John Morris Pendleton
So to pretend you're further along, you can roll around on the floor for a bit? 😉
@@EdgyShooter most of second year is spent laying down and crying anyway lol
@@davidmay9254 Incredibly reassuring as I'm literally just about to start my physics PhD 😅 we don't even get the lab coats!
@David May
That makes sense, since chemistry at times is a dirty job.
I love him saying ‘I can’t believe you would make this without thinking about the ramifications’
The guy who wrote this 100% knows what he’s doing, he wants the ramifications.
He wants the next generation to be ‘distrustful of science’, that is the point.
No. He doesn't. Stop it with the elaborate conspiracies on how evil liars want to spread misinformation. These people just don't know anything about science but think they know more than those who do. That's it.
Gotta keep that money coming in somehow. It usually involves in pandering to children.
A lot of religions preach that knowledge is the enemy of god. I don't understand how that's a good thing. If God wants us to be stupid and unknowledgeable, then he's a pretty cruel and malevolent god. But the really sad thing about it is that it's true. Knowledge really is the enemy of god. Which is a huge part of why I'm an atheist. The existence of a god makes absolutely no sense.
@@pixywings Doesn't that just prove that religion is aimed at the ignorant and gullible?
This is why the entire crux of sin was KNOWLEDGE. Highly educated people don't accept religion at face value, and most, after questioning it reject it.
They talk about the "glob of goo" as if humans aren't full of goo and can't easily be turned into a slightly bigger glob of goo.
@@Trollsagan69420 what the heck does communism have to do with any of this? The word "goo" simply means a viscous liquid like blood, or bone marrow. If something large and heavy were to fall on you then you would indeed be a pile of chunky goo
@@Trollsagan69420 so what's that gotta do with this guy who is simply explaining why the person who made the song didn't understand the concepts he was presenting to children?
(Also I can link videos too, see
th-cam.com/video/p1aRjjbrM_o/w-d-xo.html
@@Trollsagan69420 I did, and you were still the only one talking about communism. We were just talking about the word goo
@@Trollsagan69420 People: *talk about evolution*
You: COMMUNISM! WE ALL NEED TO SUDDENLY START TALKING ABOUT COMMUNISIM! WHERE IS THE COMMUNISIM IN THIS ARGUMENT?!?
@@Trollsagan69420 you keep implying that we would understand if we follow your logic, however you have yet to provide a proper connection between a discussion on what constitutes the word "goo" and a political ideology.
"you have to believe in the Jewish zombie otherwise your ghost will get burned" is the absolute best way I've ever heard someone describe Christianity
I laughed extremely when he said that
"no guys seriously we have proof that there was a man in ancient rome named jesus christ. Therefore: All forms of evolution are lies and mountains of evidence mean nothing!"
My guy, he was using it as an example of a gross misrepresentation of beliefs. If you agreed with that statement, you’re just as uneducated as the guy in the music video.
@@bestestbread I see your point, but I also agree with them, as I probably understood in a different way than you did: he described Christianity playing the game of that preacher (which is also the game of most anti-evolutionists), using very few basic elements of the whole subject, distorting them and melting them to deliver a sum-up that has nearly nothing to do with the original topic.
And, so, taking this in context, it "is the absolute best way I've ever heard someone describe Christianity"
@@bestestbread but it's funny. Just like how I'd refer to humans as "Hairless apes who like to build really tall stacks of rocks and wood"
"The fossil record doesn't forget"
That sounds surprisingly ominous 😅
@Umair yt After deciphering what you said there, the story of lungs is very interesting. It seems that rudimentary lungs developed on fish that lived in areas where due to changing conditions the water started to become deoxygenated, so they would go to the surface and 'gulp' air to compensate for this
@Umair yt you have the entire world’s information at your fingertips.
@Umair yt well I think you should first learn how to use correct spelling and grammar so that you have a better chance at understanding the scientific research.
@Umair yt all you're doing is making yourself look like a moron.
and it NEVER, forgives.
I thought "aw, it's quite a fun song, actually, and made me laugh". Then I thought, "I wonder why scientists don't write a fun song mocking the creationist standpoint ?" Then I realised, of course, scientists have more taste than to sink to that level.
Creationism does not inherently go against science if a creationist is loose enough with their ideals, so it is very difficult to even make a song mocking them without just dissing them needlessly. Whereas science is consistent. If you disagree with one scientist, you'll disagree with any other decent scientist in the same field. So, yeah, it's just kind of difficult. You have to make a song mocking a specific type of creationist who vehemently denies all things science. And then somehow clarify that you're doing that so people don't think you're just being rude.
@Hellfire LWD They just thought it was comedic. Kind of like that one flat earther skit where he told his son to tilt a marshmallow and then that caused it to get hot enough to catch on fire. It can be harmful but still well-made and funny. Sort of like dark humor, I guess.
@Hellfire LWD Why not read what I actually wrote before reacting ?
My only point is that scientists probably have. As someone studying Environmental science, I say with love that absolutely scientists will do the PETTIEST things. Do not doubt the lows someone who spent 8 years of their life studying tadpole cannibalism will do.
Can't we start with the Intro to the Big Bang theory? ;) It may not be perfect as teaching medium, but it is orders of magnitude more correct than this sillyness. ;)
"If you've never been stumped by a room full of first graders, you've never really tried teaching." YES!! EXACTLY! YES!
I like how you don’t just point out the wrong things about his arguments, but also the underlying issues the song causes. That just goes to show how much you truly care.
So I had a biology teacher in highschool, and he was my favorite. He was super passionate about his job. And the thing is? He was a super devout catholic. Went to church every sunday and everything. But he still understood that evolution has happened. In fact, he told us his own personal theory of how god set it all in motion as a beautiful art piece. His universe, chaotic yet beautiful. As an aethiest, of course, I don't believe his theory. But he was so passionate, and when I let him know, he told me that I have every right to believe what I want. That man was the best teacher I had.
That's the no true Scotsman fallacy. It's not like religious belief and scientific knowledge are 100 exclusive from one another, there's just disagreement when it comes to the explanation of why or how things are the way they are. Theistic evolution is a common belief. It doesn't make the teacher "not actually a catholic", just one with a little more education and understanding than many others.
Honestly, it feels so good that there's people like this in the world, and while I don't think that evolution is real, it still pleases me the creativity and passion some people have :)
For me, "there is a creator of the universe" and "Everything science has discovered is factual" are NOT mutually exclusive.
What if "the creator" started/created the Big Bang, didn't elaborate further, and left this universe to do its own things?
PS. I myself think that worshipping such an entity is pointless. He effing left!
@@goosebandicoot7083 the Catholic Church actually says evolution is fact
@@goosebandicoot7083 Hi, raised Catholic here. There are plenty of Catholics (priests included) who believe in evolution and have gone through the necessary steps to be a Catholic. More and more Catholics accept that their understanding of how God created the world is not complete as we can’t even fathom what a day is for God. It could be billions of years for all we know. I won’t deny that there are issues with the Catholic Church, but this day, evolution isn’t really one of the. In fact, I’ve had a Catholic friend tell me that if someone they dated said the didn’t believe in Evolution, it was a dealbreaker.
On the of chance you are a Catholic, your experience is very different than mine. However, I feel like you should know that being Catholic takes more than just going to church. It’s a cultural way of living and there are steps to being able to fully participate in all parts of the mass. You can be a scientist and Catholic, compared to some other variations of Christianity I’d say it’s easier to be both a scientist and a Catholic. So, don’t go knocking on people just cause they don’t fit your idea of what a Catholic should be. It’s a religion with a long complicated history, with admittedly dark parts of its past, but it’s survived as long as it has because like many things on this planet, it has “evolved”.
The problem with preachers is that whenever kids ask questions, the preacher would just give a vague, non-answer like "god works in mysterious ways" or "how dare you question god?!"
Ikr?? I wish they would give a legitimate answer... If there was one
@@alligator_with_internet_access I was always told by my mom that this 'end of days' was predicted, and was probably happening right now. Asked her multiple times what it was, was always given very vague answers, and was scared to death of it for years. Did my own research, and it turns out that it's in a section of the bible that seems like one huge fever dream with visions of multi-winged creatures and a 'prediction' that was supposed to happen over 1000 years ago.
This is what turned me atheist at the age of 8.
@@kitkattkandybarz7312 Oof dude
Yeah I am still theist but those are pretty crappy responses
I've never seen anyone touch on the line "The end of which is you." Its become the part of the song that annoys me the most just because no ine points it out.
Humans are not the intended end of evolution. Humans are just a relatively recent step in evolution. If we all die out, evolution is going to keep going. It's a naturally occuring process, not something with intent.
Modern humans are the absolute pinnacle of evolution.
Source: modern humans.
thats something that annoys me to about a lot of stuff i heard fundamentalists say as they already is trying to strawman evolution to crap... the idea that 'oh there must not only be a plan..a goal.. but humans must be the 'best' of it all..idiotic...
@@seanrallis6714 also modern humans: *Have the breathing tube and eating tube connect to the same hole.*
@@First_LastName And the recreation area right next to the waste processing plant
I find it so fascinating to imagine what might become of life on Earth after humans are extinct. It makes me wish we had a window into the future
The real problem with this video is not that it's a silly little video. The problem is, he means it seriously.
Incorrect
I love how religious people think "disproving" evolution proves that God is real as if that's the only other option.
I agree, I encourage you to bow down before our insectoid overlords who seeded our planet. Akin to a David Brin novels.
Religious people say that evolution teaches people that humans come from goo..while also saying that humans were made by clay..yea are they sure they're not talking about themselves?
@Solving Humanity if i would believe in a god, i would likely believe in nordic gods.
The idea of just such powerful beings that don't create teirselfs the world, the world emerges from them as a result of their actions and abilities on their long lifes is incredible for me.
Non stamp collector had an awesome video on that.
So, there's a third option? Please enlighten me.
See, that last argument is something that always bugged me. "Science didn't do it, God did it with magic". I mean if God does exist wouldn't it be an insult to say it's all magical god-power, rather than some sort of unknowable genius capable of setting up an unfathomable complex system and setting it in motion?
Reminds me of Family Guy where Peter is going on about a plastic bag in a eddy current being a metaphor for the profound nature of the universe - then it cuts to God on a cloud "IT'S JUST TRASH IN THE WIND! Do you have any idea how complicated your circulatory system is?!"
Nah
That would mean people can achieve that stuff too if they studied it enough
Magic god power however means mine is the ultimate Dad that can beat up all these scientists Dads
Absolutely. God is a being with unfathomable power, so it stands to reason he should be fully capable of forming a universe built on complex rules and systems that we ourselves can observe and learn.
@@coranbaker6401 or a very advanced being with the same capabilities. If humanity stays on the current trend of technological advances, in 500 years we could be creating our own little universal simulations, with our own advanced life forms - and we’ll be the gods
Geek out on the human immune system for even more complexity! They are still finding new things :-)
@@coranbaker6401 The problem is, that' goes against the Biblical teachings. The moment kids realize evolution happens to groups, not individuals they realize that Adam and Eve can not possibly be a true story. And the moment Adam and Eve is not true, then original sin isn't true either. That would mean Jesus had no reason to come back, no purpose. And if Jesus doesn't have any reason to be, then he can't be God. So it's just best to say, evolution is nonsense, Jesus is God, don't think about it. Don't investigate it. Science must be flawed if it doesn't come to my conclusion.
Forrest: -big long sip-
Me: Apes don't have tails?
Forrest: Apes don't have tails.
Man, the enthusiasm at 13:38 for teaching kids and being around inquisitive minds, helping them to develop their mental faculties is WONDERFUL.
The thing is that he absolutely is thinking about the ramifications of his actions. This is what this guy actually believes. He also believes that convincing kids of this will save them from burning in Hell.
On another note, my wife teaches in elementary school. She loves it for the same reasons you seem too. One of her favorites is when a kid finally understands something and she can see the "lightbulb come on". Well, that and all of the hugs.
Good TH-camr,
really. A smaller GMS,
which is nice to have on YT.
But not a 'Healthy Atheist',
but a 'Semi-Healthy Atheist',
evidend by:
-Mix-up of 'All Religion' and 'JUST Christianity'.
Thats a common mistake. Very common.
Some literally say 'Lets talk about Religion' and then
proceed to only talk about Christians alone.
-Nicely leaves out all positive points about Religion.
Like Hope and much more. Talks as if its just
some big negative ball of wool.
-Leaves out entirely and never mentions the fact
that people go from Atheist TO Religious also.
Talks as if this doesnt exist, which appears biased, to say the least.
-Talks sometimes like being Christian auto-turns
you R-pist or makes you Stone people. Which is objectively wrong.
Yeah, having heavy feelings about Stoning and R-pe is totally
and utterly understandable, but: Whats unhealthier than to think all Christians are automatically bad people?
Well, thats that.
-Common Misunderstandings and widespread Misconception
about the 'Plan' and the surrounding stuff.
@@slevinchannel7589 The positives of religion don't come only from religion or are just based on a lie.
If being told you're getting a bonus on Friday makes you feel more hopeful, but then Friday comes around and you get no bonus, then telling you about the bonus didn't really give you hope.
It gave you false hope.
@@zacheryeckard3051
The Basis; tht God exists; aint a LIe though. Its just not proven to be real.
Thats not the same as a Lie; and its just objectively bad to leave all out all Positive Stuff about Religion.
This TH-camr almost talks as if it turns you insta-bad-person if you believe in God. Lol?
@@slevinchannel7589 Bud, if you assert as true a statement that you know hasn't been demonstrated to be true, THAT'S A LIE.
@@slevinchannel7589 Name one positive of religion that can’t be achieved by non religious means.
Dude: look at all these missing links don't take scientists seriously guy they don't know what we looked like at this specific point
Also dude: and adam was sad so he asked god for a wife so god took one of his ribs and made a woman
...makes perfect sense
I recommend the Books that the
Famous Unhealthy Atheist 'Onision' wrote.
Well, not the Books itself,
but the Book-Reviews.
Same for the Famous Unhealthy Theist 'Norman B.'
and his Book 'Empress Theresa'.
In short: Book-Reviews of 'Empress Theresa' and Onisions
Books are always a BLAST.
its hilarious how bad they are. Shows how you can get something
out of Books so terrible they are funny to dissect and pity.
Krimson Rogue and many other TH-camrs have had their Crack
on those; its always hilarious, i say!
@@slevinchannel7589 I see that you are trying to make a point about hiw anyone of any religious background can be so wrong, but the thing is its clear you are being defensive, so I'm guessing you are some sect of Christianity, I grew up around a large number of Christians and whent through Catholic schools all my life and I'm still an atheist, yes people on beth sides of the line can be dumb, it's just looking at bible story's as literal is nonsensical and even religious leaders say not to
I prefer believe that humans are created by intelligent design
@@rediyuda I'm sorry but no "intelligent design" would create such a flawed organism such as us, we act as if we are the end point in evolution and that just because we developed language (that's the main thing that separates us from animals) it must mean that we where created purposefully
@@therealme1362 i don't know what you mean "flawed organism". But if we look the parts of human body, i know for sure that is designer for it
I went to a Christian school and I had a class where the teacher would use the exact same arguments against evolution. At the end we had to write a reflection about what we learnt in class (so he knew we were paying attention) and I wrote about exactly how every one of his arguments were wrong, catalogued by each week of class. I got a 20% because “I obviously didn’t listen in class or I would’ve realized that he was right”.
90% of the kids in that class all believed the teacher completely and years later they are still going around believing in the flawed info that was taught to them in that school.
I hope that “teacher” got fired for his incompetence
@@naturegirl1999 Nope
@@Chevsilverado that’s a shame, I hope other students of his are able to find actual info as you were able to do
@@naturegirl1999 it's a Christian school, they are paid to teach incompetently
As an outspoken atheist and IB / AP Biology educator; if I was told to teach that "some random magical sky daddy made a universe by voodoo magic " which is exactly what Creationism / Intelligent Designs states; I would resign that day!
Religion poisons the mind with ancient, dogmatic, bullshit; all based on ignorant men {with the total science knowledge of a pre-schooler}, "making shit up" attempting to understand the natural world; failing at every point !
"Apes don't have tails..."
I thought it... and you said it. I literally LOLed.
My favorite weird/tired argument is: "Haha you atheists think the universe came from nothing! So anyway, God snapped his fingers and-"
Not to mention the obvious followup question of “where the fuck did god come from?”
Religion will survive for hundreds of years to come but it will do so through adapting to science rather than rejecting science. Just as it has always done
You know, "Microbes and Muck" would actually be a great name for a table top RPG designed to teach the foundational concepts of evolution.
Wouldn't that just be Spore but with less intelligent design and more actual stimulus based evolution?
I wonder how it would be. An RPG is intrinsically narrative in nature so I think it's a really bad idea. But as a child I always dreamed on an actual evolution simulator where you could create life and see how it evolves in a custom enviroment.
I'm obsessed with the idea of games that would require many experts to design
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 Species: Artificial Life, Real Evolution is what you're looking for! It has random mutations and evolves little bean creatures depending on the environment you select. It ain't perfect but it's trying. It's on steam
You start in a tavern.. No I mean sea!
You might like The Sapling.
Yeah, I was unfortunately one of those poor children who heard stories and songs like this all the time growing up, and I just regurgitated them without thinking, because that was all I knew. It didn't help that I was "rewarded" by my family for regurgitating this sort of stuff with encouraging words and praise for sticking to my beliefs. So yeah, I was a very dogmatic person for most of my early life and into highscool. Luckily, I started questioning things and looking at what science was saying and I realized that what my church and family had been telling me all my life just doesn't add up. I have a friend I made in highschool, who was questioning things way before I was, to thank for pulling me out of my dogmatic existence and into the mindset of learning and being amazed at all the process of the world around me. Science and learning are really cool if you have the right mindset to see it.
I remember in my 4th year at a catholic school, 1 of the teachers asked the stuudents to ask any question. So I was thinking 'hmmm, how do birds fly', to which I did ask and had the entire class laugh at me. Then the teacher condescendingly said "because they have wings"
Because I was a shy kid I didn't push forward on how that didn't really answer anything and changed my question to rockets flying. The answer to that was " because of the force".
They all thought I was stupid for asking such "simple" questions and 1 kid came and asked me if I was alright.
1st year in engineering school and 1 of the profs said there aren't many stupid questions, as an example he said that he wouldn't be able to answer how birds fly because it so complicated. I thanked him and told him my story. He said that if the the answer was simply wings that people could just put on a pair of wings and fly.
But yeah children need to just ask questions.
Birds fly because of 'THE FORCE'.
Yoda can fly too.
And adults learn to teach
The question of why birds can fly is indeed complicated, but it’s partially because they have hollow bones, so very very light skeletal structures. Humans would not be able to fly even with proportionally sized wings because our skeletons are too heavy.
And different birds fly in different ways, so yeah, it’s a lot of info that can’t be easily summarised. A hummingbird flies very differently from a condor, for example. And flying insects are different again.
did your teacher forget that penguins, kiwis, ostriches, emus, and many more flightless birds exist? all of which have wings
@@hunterhuffman4520 When I asked that question, she didn't skip a beat and answered "Because they have wings" I could have mentioned it myself but I was 9 years old and the whole class was laughing at me, I was dying inside at the time
So he set up this goo strawman just to tell the kids that they were made out of dirt and a rib instead? xD
Sorry for that strawman btw ;p
We’re all water
If we came from dirt then y is there dirt?
@@KawaiiStarFairy fleshy watery balloons we are
@@KawaiiStarFairy To be precise...
90% of fetuses is water
80% in kids
70% in adults
60-65% in old men
I love how passionately he talks about teaching at 14:03
I would love to be a student in this guy's class. I had a science teacher with a similar attitude, and I still appreciate the influence she had on me.
It's not just a silly song, it's intentional indoctrination of children.
Yep, and it's terribly dangerous.
@@francelaferriere6106 how is it dangerous
How does this not have more likes
@@EverythingInBetween197 indoctrination of kids, propaganda is usually passed through innocent means
@@EverythingInBetween197indoctrination of children with false ideas is necessarily dangerous.
We absolutely need more scientific literacy. I remember arguing with a classmate of mine about creationism, and he legitimately claimed the big bang broke the law of conservation of mass
Of course there is nothing like conservation of mass.
conservation of mass is in fact not a thing
Certified bruh moment. I imagine you won, no?
Wasn't it conservation of energy?
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 it’s one of those two
His care for young audiences and children makes me almost cry I love this man
Yeah here's the thing. He's hiding behind the idea of it being "just a silly song, why so serious" to get away with saying basically wrong nonsense. Jokes work on levels of awareness, and I think it's pretty self-evident that the joke here is "isn't evolution so dumb". Calling it "the science of delusion" is a pretty blatant admission of that, and he's using the fact that the song restrains his phrasing to disguise that this is what he effectively, actually thinks, or at least wants his audience to think.
Because he's a dumbass who slept through biology in high school.
Despite that ... the song is catchy >.<
I kinda hate that I like it ... xD
"its just a joke" explain the joke then. oh the joke is that science is stupid? its not really a joke then
@@rplatt9829 I don't say that the message from the song is good, it isn't.
That doesn't change the tune.
Rap for example can have a great message, but I don't like it at all, regardless what message it has ...
It's all a out the tune, not the message ...
Maybe that is due to growing up in a non-English speaking country?
When I heard English songs on the radio as a kid, I understood literally nothing.
Yet some songs I liked and others I didn't.
A good example would be, "Another brick in the wall" ...
I liked that song, without knowing the message.
And my uncle once asked me, if I'd knew what that song is about and I denied ...
He then said, that I'd probable like it more if I would (being a child, school being bad etc.).
So I guess this irrelevance towards the meaning of the lyrics still carries on, even though I do understand English now ...
If I like the tune or the lyrics rhyme in a way I like (irrelevant if I understand them now or if I don't), then I find the song catchy or good.
Regardless of what the meaning of the song is.
It doesn't mean that I would recommend a song though, if I know what it is about and the message either sucks or is even going completely against my views ...
Yet, it does not change anything from the initial catchyness of the song ...
So I may even like musical tune with racist lyrics.
I don't need to approve the lyrics, to like the tune.
They are two completely seperate things to me.
@@tobywood00 yep , it’s like when someone says something rediculously bigoted and then just says “it’s a joke “
I was one of those lied to kids. I was raised in the church, so my natural love of science was twisted through these lies.
The decision of where I would spend my youth and energy was completely taken by these people. I was trained as an apologist to work on the front lines of their war. I was lied to by every single adult who I, being a child, should have been able to trust! I spent so many years not even knowing I was already entrenched in their game. It's subtle on purpose. It targets kids on purpose.
Thank you for your anger at this filth who uses the trust and imagination of kids for their own gain.
What war?
@@undrwatropium3724 the war on truth
Sorry to hear that. Glad you've found your way out.
Same 😞
It's sad that there are so many people who prefer to remain wrong rather than accepting the truth, and their response to finding out that they are fractally wrong is to try to make the rest of us wrong, too.
Forrest, this is not a SILLY little video. It was specifically constructed to misinform children - the author knows full well what he is doing and how he is misrepresenting evolution. So, nitpick every little bit as much as you like!
Are you sure Rives knows what he's talking about? This looks like how stupid people generally depict scientists, and he radiates big himbo energy.
Evolution is misinformation. This video is great mockery of its stupidity.
@@jacobostapowicz8188 Evolution is not misinformation, it's actually very informative of how life got to where it is now
@@autobotstarscream765 They know alright. How many debates has Hovid attended, and yet he still pedals the same tired faulty arguments.
@@joseantoniovargas6548I learned about the paradoxical conundrums of abiogenesis. All that i keep learing about it is proof against it, unless you close one eye...
"apes don't have tails"
Dont know why but that sentence was funny as hell
Because *****siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*****
"Not as complicated as you fear"? Who would actually hope that the answers were as boring and progress-stagnating as "god created us in his image, the end"? Reality is luckily immeasurably more interesting and complex than this fairy tale.
100% better than any work of fiction.
@@notexturefound2376 You're right, you can enjoy the world. You just will be completely incorrect about most of it.
@@notexturefound2376”every scientific field invented by a Christian” - never mind the Greeks, romans, Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, etc who studies the world.
@@notexturefound2376 Yeah, so long as you, like, actually explore that fascinating world. When a nationally-broadcasted radio pastor ran a discussion a few years back about how the people who study astronomy and the universe around us were wasting their time and being terrible people because "God put everything we need to see right here in front us," I lost a lot of tolerance for that sort of thing.
You don't need to reject either science or religion to find joy and fascination in the world and universe around you. But there is an unfortunate trend amongst religious thought leaders of encouraging people to be incurious. Stop learning, stop broadening understanding, stop asking questions, because I have all the answers for you already.
If Adam and Eve happened that would mean that god thought incest was okay
I taught middle school math and science for years. They stumped me ALL THE TIME. Kids are awesome. Then I left teaching to make money. We need to pay teachers more.
I feel like as a 5 year old I understood more about evolution than that guy. Thanks walking with monsters (the best walking with series)!
Ah yes, as an intermediate five-year-old. I unquestionably comprehend aeons more than this ignoramus Christian.
@@joshuasymonds3258 yes
I'm sorry to inform you that you're objectively wrong...
Chased by Sea Monsters is far superior.
I loved waking with beasts too and walking with monsters!
@@fairsaa7975 is that the walking with dinos water version?
Still at the same time?
Oh, the lie that Creationism is less complicated. Where did God come from? How exactly do His powers work? If you ignore most of the questions, sure, you can *pretend* your theory isn't complicated. But really, "a sentient being of immense power made Earthly life" just raises way more questions than it answers.
Really?..God has always existed.. yes it's hard to grasp your mind around that because of our finite nature..everything has a beginning and end to us..How exactly do his powers work? Really? He has no limits, he is truly all-powerful..he can do anything..(that doesn't mean he will...) and yes our "theory" (which is much more than a theory) is extremely complex..it's not easy to understand and no one has ALL the answers.. that is why we have faith..Also.. I know this will frustrate most but, there is much more evidence towards a Devine Creator than "evolution"
@@ShadowMageYTyou don't realize that your answers are all just ignoring the questions
He asks a question and you're like "really you don't understand? that question doesn't apply so we don't have to answer it"
You have yet to provide any evidence or anything close to an explanation for how something like that could be infinite.
God does not have a theory accompanying it, the theory would be something that explains data and provides predictive model.
and the idea that God exists is extremely basic has no evidence supporting it ahead and provides a predictive model that fails nearly 100% of the time
If an alien that created humans actually existed and and didn't come about through abiogenesis and also there was an unending source of Power with a conscious behind it the theories behind that would be extremely complicated, that's not what you have
Your explanations aren't hard to understand and contextualize because they're complicated or exist on a scale humans can't imagine, they just don't make any sense.
Like insisting two plus two equals five and that we just don't understand complex math it goes into the theory that two plus two equals five, so that's why it doesn't make sense to us
Or there's an infinite amount of zeros after the twos so that's why we don't understand where's the five is coming from
Saying "God did and I can't explain how because it's complicated" is not a complicated Theory
@@FrancisR420 ok first of all, thank you for bringing up arguments in a polite way 😃I enjoy good conversations...ok I already said that his "powers" have no limits, he can do anything...what does that mean? Anything you can possibly think of, he's capable of this on the highest level..." "Oh, well can't he just murder billions, send people to Hell and do the most horrific things just because he wants to have fun? Technically, he would be able to, but he also has infinite love for us..our minds can't comprehend his limits because everything has limits to us on earth..he loves us more than anyone could ever love us, and that is why he doesn't just slaughter us in spite.." How could a God of love kill people and send them to Hell...I don't want to be apart of that!!" Well first of all we live in a fallen world..this means that we decided to sin and separate ourselves from God..EVERY person who ever lived (Besides Jesus) this is why natural disasters happen, wars, murder, disease. This all was the effect of our sins. How do we know God exists..he is not of this world so we can't just put him in a beaker, stir him around and say, "Here's proof!"
The evidence is nature itself.. Everything in the entire universe points to nature. DNA, cosmic bodies, the mind, even the dirt that we are standing/sitting on. Let me ask you this question...how can a mindless process end up with VERY VERY complex organisms.. "BiLlIoNs oF YeArs!!" That's not how it works..life comes from previous life.. to say that chemicals and non-organic matter created simple organisms over time rejects the rules of nature. Yes, technically chemicals and non-organic matter take part in creating new life..but to create an entire organism from scratch with non-organic matter involved at all is impossible..Let me ask you this...what is the origin of the universe? If you think it has always been here..there is overwhelming evidence against that like an expanding universe, and a possible heat death in the future..if you say there was a big bang that came out of nothing and created everything including extremely complex life that is next to impossible to come from non-organic matter..why don't other things come out of nothing..why is there one exception to that rule?
"My theory" is based on God's word, the Bible...the Bible is very complex..I said before, no one has all the answers to it..and that makes it sound that for anything we can't prove we just say, "Oh, have faith..I can't prove it so I'll just say that not everything is explainable" there are tons of unexplainable things in science as well
To say there is "NO" supporting evidence to "My theory" is utterly ridiculous..there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to support it. The FACT that the Bible has not been disproven in thousands of years of history is evidence..with over 40 different authors and a span of about 4500 years of written history, the Bible is truly amazing..this is why I believe what I believe..let me know if you have any questions..thank you!
@@ShadowMageYT Obvious bait, nobody acts like this in real life; don’t waste your time.
@@ShadowMageYT Evolution is an observation. There is so much evidence in favour of it that it is treated as a scientific fact. The theory is natural selection, that evolution (which we have observed) is caused by selective pressures caused by the environment. This is a well supported and robust theory. And no, it's not our job to disprove the bible. It's your job to provide supporting evidence for it. We have our supporting evidence, this was outlined in the video you're replying to. Take your pick of the fossil record, genetic phylogeny, genetic fossils, convergence or homology, all this strongly supports evolution by natural selection. We can't disprove the bible. It's inherently unfalsifiable. That's why the burden of proof is positive and goes to the person making a claim. We have our strong supporting evidence for evolution by natural selection, where's yours for the bible? It's not good enough to say it hasn't been disproven, the idea that I farted the universe into existence last Saturday and all your memories with it hasn't been disproven and can't be. It's obvious that can't be our standard.
Limitless powers are also inherently self contradictory. The age old meme example is "could god cook a burrito so hot he couldn't eat it". While an obviously stupid example, it raises a point on the inherent cyclical and contradictory nature of theoretical omnipotence. Limitless powers should allow a god to create impossible and contradictory scenarios. We know the god of the bible is omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, this should mean that god wants to irradiate evil, knows how to irradiate evil and has the ability to irradiate evil. To pre-empt the counterargument, free will. This is where the infinitely hot burrito comes in. If god is truly omnipotent he should be able to create a universe where free will does not conflict with the irradiation of evil. Even if those two statements are contradictory, if he can't do it there is a limit to his power. He can't break contradictions. If he can break contradictions then something else clearly doesn't add up.
Also, I have no problems wrapping my head around something that's always existed. I have no reason to doubt that in some form the universe has always existed. Time and space as concepts may not have, but the universe existed before the big bang. This is something that's generally agreed upon. We have no idea what the state of the universe before the big bang could have been, because the event obscures any current methods we have of viewing before it, but we're reasonably certain the universe didn't come from nothing. There's some hypotheses but there's really no reason to give any of them any more weight than god right now.
I love that your "gross misrepresentation" of their beliefs is more accurate to the source material than their disingenuous claims about science.
It's great! I might steal it
@@zikuanli8483 I mean, YHWH is a deity of rage. Genesis 4, wasn't it, he flooded the planet and killed all life except 7 people and 2 of each animal. His reason was that humanity was too busy having sex to praise him every second of every day, and that is a crime humanity can't be forgiven for.
So "angry murder bee" is right in line with what God would make. As is a parasite that spreads through shit as it sucks your life ever so progressively.
@@zikuanli8483 as in he did a good job?
"How do you not see the glory of Evolution?" Now, to that I can only say: "Amen, brother!" :) Never stop learning!
I will pay 10 bucks to whoever could find a video that trys to debunk evolution without bringing up creationism and Christianity.
Careful. There are definitely some people who try to make their creationist propaganda without mentioning creationism.
@@joachimschoder Those would be the famous cdesign proponentists.
@@joachimschoder yah, that would be 'Intelligent Design', lol
Sorry, the "we started off as a blob of goo" is the most flawed argument when targeting your message to kids. Most kids are going to think it's the coolest thing ever that they were once goo. They will want to believe we started off as goo!
Jeez, know your audience, zealot.
Wait till they find out about the Cambrian arthropods.
Big fuckin ocean bugs? Hell yeah.
@@Judgement_Kazzy YOU EVOLVED FROM GOLISOPOD
GOLISOPOD IS NOW YOUR GOD
REJECT MUNKY, RETURN TO GOLISOPOD
We did, all, start out as goo, but it wasn't green
@@brickbuilder-fh7yt The cute boy said it was green. 😌
If you've ever watched a toddler learning how to eat , , , there's some goo still showing through :-)
Actually people on the frog community use the word polliwog as a tadpole that does not yet have any leg growth yet. So it is a very young tadpole. Frog enthusiasts still use that word 😊
Pokemon community too... Polywag best water pokemon.
Something about the phrase “frog enthusiasts” makes me incredibly happy and I don’t know why lol.
@@ohlookaflower.5961 Its pretty ribbiting ngl
We use that word too in the Amphibia fandom. If you haven't already, it's a great show to watch for any frog enthusiast 😜
@@ohlookaflower.5961 the dart frog community can get very Karen-y, especially on the subject of hybridization.
this man is so wholesome why can't I have a teacher this passionate
Finally someone said it how badass the development of life on earth is. The beginning would literally be the cd art of a metal band. Earths bombardment.
It felt as if you really got enraged at the idea of telling lies to the youth, I could feel the passion in it. It's really nice to see someone who still has passion like this.
I love how “that’s not how anything works” has become his catchphrase
Cristianity: humanity was created from dirt
Atheism: humanity was created from abiotic material
Christianity: LIFE DOESNT COME FROM NON LIFE >:(
tobe fair in the end predictions of the apocalypse are appearing so is it really that hard to believe now?-
@@vavalaz yes, because they have "been appearing" for centuries now, it's just people looking for coincidences that resembles what they want so they find it, like the constilations we look for patterns we find them
I dont believe so many coincidences in years near eachother should be labeled as unimportant, and i mean, where did anything come from? what made the big bang, and what made that thing happens? and what made that thing happen and so on, its logical to say something always existed, which would mean something that doesent have to follow our logic.@@DAuthoR
"The end of which is you"
I appreciate him talking out the science, but this line frustrates me even more than the goop part.
It's really crazy how most people, especially creationists, seem to have this idea in their head that WE (right now) are the End-All-Be-All of evolution.
Like, it's cute that you think that, but there's more to this universe than UsRightNow. Humanity 2021 isn't the end of our evolutionary timeline.
Let’s hope not or the universe picked a really bad time to just stop
(Because flat earthers and Karens)
I'm off the opinion that we as humans won't evolve anymore simply because what is there to threaten us as a species to change. The list is non-existent, anything that can harm us a species is something we won't be able to deal with
@@isdrakon9802 actually humanity will always keep evolving like animals as well, probably not much physically, but mentally we will.
@@isdrakon9802 there's ourselves. Einstein once said: "No mouse would ever build a mouse trap, but humans have made the atom bomb."
But this is exactly the reason why so many people deny evolution. Admitting that our existence is nothing more than some sort of coincidence makes humans less special. It goes against the narrative that the world was made for us. But that's exactly what those people want to believe, what they cling to. It's not that they wouldn't be able to look at the evidence and understand, they simply don't want to. They chose not to. So making false arguments and poking holes in them is just for them to feel better about themselves.
Religious people: Something as amazing as you can't come from a glob of goo
Also religious people: You come from a pile of dirt
Yup .Ive personally never understood the appeal of “ it’s so comforting that your a horrible dirt being whose sole purpose is to stroke the ego of god. in fact your so horrible that you deserve to literally be on fire forever but don’t worry , you can get out of it by stroking gods ego forever !”
@@rainquarm well that's not how God or the bible even works. That's actually the same mistake that this dude is spewing with his weird song.
Also, how many have mocked science as a religion, when, hey that’s all they’ve got for their own explanation (aka magic)
Adam and Eve implied that god thinks invest is okay
@@thetoughunicorn1679 It was when they left because they were the first two humans to be made. It was soon stopped unless the need to repopulate the earth was dire, as in after the flood event. And actually they're not bother and sister, they're husband and wife. Big difference.
Every time I am reminded this song exists, I feel embarrassed. If you haven't done him yet, Forrest, you HAVE to do Ray Comfort.
BANANA MAN
Another vote for Ray Comfort
As well as Matt Powell. His utter lack of understanding of even basic science rivals Ray, excepting that Ray has had the science broken down for him, and he only continues to lie because he has a financial stake in continuing to pretend he doesn't understand it.
Has he done Kent Hovind?
@@TheNinthGeneration1 AronRa already has debunked literally everything Kent has ever said.
"You have to believe in the Jewish zombie or your ghost will get burned."
I lost it
Reading the comments, it makes me so glad that my parents always taught me that critical thinking is one of the most important skills and that I should pursue what I want and didn't try and indoctrinate me.
So here I am, studying for a PhD in quantum imagining and they're incredibly happy, even if they have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about when I try and explain it 😂
My parents indoctrinated me, unfortunately for them they also taught me critical thinking as they believed it is imperative to test everything, a slogan from 119 ministries. Well I did that and our cult religion made no sense at all. So now im a secret agnostic.
To be fair I am not sure even quantum scientists are aware what they are talking about :P
That was a joke your work is very fascinating.
@@364dragonrider Oh don't worry, I'm going into the field and there's still so much that's weird as hell to me 😂
Yay I hope you get your pHD! it sounds really cool, and quantum physics sounds really cool!
Lucky you. My parents indoctrinated me and I had to learn critical thinking on my own.
"Believe in the Jewish Zombie or have your ghost burn" - Finally, I can make allegories for Christianity that aren't mega obvious in my fiction writings
(Also, yes knowing about reality helps a lot in writing fiction, it's a "learn the rules before you bend them" thing in my experience)
I respect that. I wish a lot of the science fiction writers of popular shows cared more about the science aspect. First rule in science fiction, don't talk about the science! Lol
That's still mega obvious, just off enough to be insulting and having been used as such so many times it's no longer funny.
For better examples of non-mega-obvious Christian allegories:
Transformers
Sailor Moon
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Diablo
Pokémon (Arceus and Xerneas are literally God and Jesus, but subtly instead of Aslan running around roaring it in a bullhorn)
Persona (as opposed to the mainline SMT which _is_ mega obvious)
Final Fantasy
The Legend of Zelda
Digimon (sometimes mega obvious, sometimes not)
Sonic the Hedgehog
The Lord of the Rings
@@autobotstarscream765 transformers Digimon.
@@autobotstarscream765 LoZ started out being very obvious, with Link's shield having a literal cross and an item literally being called the Bible in an early game (though I think it was changed for the Western translation to not upset people). I'd say modern LoZ isn't a Christian allegory anymore though, Christians don't own the idea of gods (in fact they reject gods PLURAL) or good Vs evil as a sort of magical force
Sorry, I'm just a big LoZ fan who's massively invested in the fictional cultures and worldbuilding in Hyrule, including the religion, and the distinctions from real life religions is part of why it's so fascinating to me, it's not just a pure reskin of something else, but it shares enough traits to be believable as a religion (except since it's fiction it's definitely real considering there's actual observable magic for them, lol. Sorry I'm an atheist so I don't see Christianity as "cannon")
@@vaughnhaney7020 I know about all that, but some elements that remain do seem to retain a certain level of influence, like how the Triforce Goddesses are a Triad represented by three triangles that form one triangle, like how St. Patrick described the Trinity in terms of the 3-leaf shamrock. ☘
I think it's completely acceptable to nitpick every aspect of this video. Regardless of the simplicity of language used, that language should be accurate. Whether or not this video is intended for children, the simplistic and reductive language seems intentionally chosen to make the theory of evolution - and scientists themselves - seem stupid.
This video is an intentional attempt to misinform children in order to further a religious agenda.
Evolution and its high priest scientists is stupid. Most believed nonsensical idea without evidence award.
@@jacobostapowicz8188 You sound like an atheist
@@jacobostapowicz8188 Except that we've proven that evolution happened to some capacity many, many times. We didn't just pop into existence out of nowhere
@@titus4440What was proved? That organisms are adaptive to climate conditions but never generate new viable genetic sequencing. The information is already there in the dna but nothing new appears out of nowhere
@@btat16Well im not a believer that everything made itself
"You better believe in the Jewish zombie, or else your ghost will get burned!" needs to be a bumper sticker
in defense of anyone who said the song is catchy, i will definitely be humming this at work later. like, it’s pretty bad and the “arguments” are horrendous, but i don’t think i’m gonna be able to get this out of my head for a while💀
That tune is as old as the hills themselves. In essence, this is wholly mediocre and untalented af.
@@justanotherdayinthelife9841 haha yeah, i was most definitely not saying that man had any ounce of talent or that it’s super original or even a good tune. it is, however, unfortunately very catchy imo. but yeah lmao NOT saying that dude is an alright songwriter
Just a glob of goo" will be in my lexicon now.
Considering most famous country songs sound exactly like this, ye lol.
The instrumental _is_ catchy. It's basically 99% of fireside country songs, tho, so it's not really an achievement :p
From a very young age I was pretty interested in animals and nature documentaries, and when I first learned about evolution I was fascinated and thought it was really neat that we were related to other great apes like chimpanzees. Little animal lover me was delighted to discover that I was just another species of animal.
Imagine how little eight year old me felt when I started telling my classmates about evolution and they began to bully me for thinking we "came from monkeys" and laughed at me and made fun of me. I genuinely remember learning about Darwin being made fun of for his theory of evolution and thinking "hey, I had a similar experience, just not about my own ideas." I wonder if any of those kids remember bullying me for talking about evolution, and if they feel stupid now that they've learned about evolution in school?
Not claiming I was some magical expert on evolution at that age too, I had a very poor understanding at the time, I was no child genius! Just a kid really interested in learning about the natural world. Which is what led me to be studying a STEM course today! xD Glad I did not stumble across videos like this when I was that age, I probably would have fallen for it and thought this was how evolution works.
As a Christian man I can say on behalf of millions of Christians that we do not claim him. He does not represent us. We hope he stops probably more than you do.
Thank you for your time.
Doesn't matter. You're gonna get strawmanned whether you like it or not because the internet is full of kids that are pissed off their parents forced them to go to church as a kid.
Yeah im a Christian and I'm working hard to try and get my dad to believe in evolution because he was indoctrinated with this kind of stuff when he became a Christian, and it's all coming from their MASSIVE AND I MEAN MASSIVE misinterpretation of Genesis, Genesis is a temple text not a historical account of creation, so the Bible has nothing to say on the ABSOLUTE beginning point and I believe the churches denial of science leads to many people rejecting christianty because Christians don't like evolution and evolution is factual so...As a theistic evolutionist, Christians doing this kind of thing it pisses me off too
@@fumples4080 You said it.. you said it so perfectly.
It's like a diamond it's so pristine
@@goldenapplesaga5446 ay man God bless u,
@@fumples4080 Thank you! God bless you too! 😊❤
To be fair, even if evolution did teach that we came from a glob of goo, it is still more believable than the shite spewed in the bible.
Plus the genocide in the Bible.
1 Samuel 15 3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys"
@@LisaAnn777 That literally doesn't have anything to do with evolution. Just because god supports genocide does not mean creationism is not believable.
I mean, "man is made from mud and woman is made from a rib" Is quite hard to believe.
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 it means your deity is a psychopath if he exists, and isn't worthy of worship. Most people have what they call empathy and don't support genocide if any kind. Don't give af about evolution.
The Bible men are made of dirt and woman from a man's rib, it's completely braindead.
@@LisaAnn777 My deity? I am an atheist. I just think your comment is non sequitur to the topic in question
I imagine that the reason why they don't see glory in evolution, bc that would mean they are not special and weren't created by some deity. quite the blow to the ego
it's also why a heliocentric model of the solar system was considered heresy.
You mean we aren’t the center of the universe and the sole reason for all of reality!? How dare you!
By their logic god made everything for us so he would’ve made the Big Bang and evolution for us to discover but no they don’t wanna believe things THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN are fake
@@mcbuttstuff yes, and this god also created a band of charlatans that worship him and spread disinformation for the lulz, as if to strictly prove against his so-called "glory"
@@Lifesizemortal yep
Absolutely loved this video, it’s not just about how wrong these videos are, but it also shows how extremely important education is.
So… I only just came across this channel like 2 days ago… and I also started my college biology class yesterday. I think I’m going to subscribe.
*Oh yeah, it’s all coming together*
In all seriousness, I have itch to learn as much as I can, and watching this channel along side my biology studies is a great opportunity to learn more. Education can be really fun if you just have the right mindset
the excitement this man shows is so nice when he starts talking about teaching kids. He seems like he would be just the kind of cool science teacher that you want at a school. Keep up the great work!
Yes. The message is gross.
Indoctrination is just wrong.
We should teach young people to be critical thinkers.
That being said, I've been a musician since 1976.....
Musically, this is trash.
Mmmmm, I-IV-V-I harmony, a basic drum beat and a mediocre singer fumbling to find something that rhymes with ‘evolution’. This guy is really putting out top tier content.
trash-ass beat, trash-ass flow, trash-ass rhymes. he can kinda sing but that’s it
@@Thebiggestgordon basic drum beats can be nice, love me some techno
@Tsinatkeab Massebo
But I really do "understand religion".
I'm always willing to learn more though.
What is your understanding of religion?
Anyhow, my comment was more about the music and the ignorant message of intolerance.
@Tsinatkeab Massebo
Interesting.
What can you teach me about indoctrination and how I am wrong about it?
Also, I'm still waiting to learn what you have to teach me about religion.
I teach college physical anthropology classes, and many of my students tell me (after we rather exhaustively cover evolution) that this level of quackery is what their understanding of evolution had been prior to taking my course. It's really, really sad.
"Thick and delicious wall of human"
-Forrest Valkei
I think I had a dream about something like that before.
@@YVH636 I had a dream where I was at a Dinopark and then I turned into a hedgehog (I woke up after that and I don't remember the rest of the dream)
"If you've never been stumped by the questions of a room full of 1st graders, then you've never been a teacher."
Probably the BEST quote on the TH-cams for a long time!!
when you don't have any good arguments, you break into song
I like how you don't necessarily try to attack religion in itself. I love seeing the facts and evidence you talk about and how you mostly focused on the positive.
I'm glad for it because many many religions are not creationist. It's stupid. Evolution so obviously exists. I'm a Catholic, and Catholicism supports evolution. In fact, on of the first major individuals to study genetics, Mendel, was a Catholic monk. Also, in the first book of the bible, Genesis, the creation story is written in a type of Hebrew poetry, and is not meant to be taken exactly.
honestly not sure why this video popped into my recommended list today but i am glad it did because this video really gave me the same kind of vibe steve irwen gave off when he was teaching people about animals and I haven't gotten that feeling since... well actually since the last time i watched a video of steve irwen teaching people about animals
I really hope the rest of your videos are like this too, you just earned yourself a subscriber, please keep doing what you are doing
There was this one video that I saw I forget what it was called, sorry, but it was an experiment performed by I believe Stanford University where bacteria was put on a glass platform. The bacteria would die and breed extremely quickly so over the course of ten days they would make it across the board. The only catch was that there was anti-bacteria in different quantities along the board. The bacteria starts without any resistance and moves on to an extremely low concentration of biocide. Eventually a line of bacteria will grow resistant and start going further. The amount of anti-bacteria increases exponentially until it reaches 100x the concentration that was at the start, and the bacteria made it all the way across in like 10 days. It was a really cool showing of micro-evolution that I think really pushed my full belief in evolution.
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." -- Douglas Adams
Evolutionism is indeed ignorance....
15:54 Doesn't the Bible teach god “formed man of the dust of the ground"? So goo is stupid but dirt is glorious... what a parody!
In the original language (Hebrew) it even says he moulded man out of clay, so even closer to goo
The only thing that Christians don't like about it is that it's directly tied to evolution.
Don't take the Bible literally, or you may end up going astray. Priests study the Bible for _decades_ to properly understand what the texts actually mean.
@@pablopereyra7126 so your saying that just because you don't understand something it's wrong?
@@joshpaulson88 In what way did I say that?
Gotta love how religious people literally only need ONE really old book and that is all the proof. Yet science has had so much time and effort put into it to help us understand so much but somehow that is all false?! Huge reason why I turned away from religion. Love your content man!
That’s not really how it works but at least you tryed to prove a point now please keep your anti religion thought to yourself because honestly no one wants to hear you take a massive load on what they believe in
@@Mr.StopMotion Kind of like how no one wants to hear this completely unproven BELIEF (aka means it has no factual proof) pushed constantly in the most hypocritical way! Everyone ignoring all the holes in it all and expecting people to just take it because why?…..Just because its in a really old book. Smh. Just because you believe something doesn’t mean its true. And I know the same can be said to me with believing it isn’t true. At the end of the day, I can actually accept I may actually be wrong.. But anyway, thanks for the comment. Take care.
@@iMikeTech811 there is ligit documentaries and tv shows about all found proof😂 there is more proof of god than proof of monke becomes man
Do I need to draw a picture for you?
This is how much proof of god
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And this is how much proof there is of monke become man
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@@iMikeTech811 take care my guy
It always makes me mad when creationists mess up the use of "theory".
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.
Funny that out of all the theories out there, including:
-Cell Theory
-Germ Theory
-Tectonic Plate Theory
-Quantum Theory
-Big Bang Theory (Bazinga)
-Gravity
-Antimatter Theory
-Einstein's Theory of relativity
-Atomic Theory
-Social Learning Theory
People are only concerned with using the 'just a theory' excuse with one
that’s just a theory
A GAME THEORY
@@Alpharelicyou made a reference to the Big Bang Theory show, this you opinion is irrelevant(joking)
They confuse theory with hypothesis
I always get super excited when Forrest starts talking science, it's so fascinating to learn about ATP and protozoa and he shares his knowledge on the subject it's captivating! in all honesty It's annoying to go back and listen to the dribble presented in the song, but it makes for an entertaining video. because of this I am going to expand my understanding on ATP and how mitochondria do what they do, it's really quite fascinating
A lot of Christian arguments don't account for the ability to change the mind. This seems to be a common issue amongst conservative viewpoint in general. The thing is, in Christianity there is no discovery. There is no "learning new facts" and "making decisions about what is more accurate." Everything is laid out in a book and questioning that book is taboo. This creates this impasse where the book can't be held up to science because that would be questioning the book. That, along with all the indoctrination that goes on in every church I have ever been to, leads to people not bothering to question. The Christian bible isn't updated. Even if we make discoveries about the times it was written about, the book doesn't get changed. There are re-translations, but even those have cultural inadequacies.
The age and unchangeability of our good book makes science, which is constantly changing, learning, and re-orienting seem comparatively wishy washy. (That is the technical term.) Also, when your standard is something that never changes, broad and outdated scientific statements hold as much weight as more recent specific discoveries. This is a large reason why I deviated from organized church. They indoctrinate you to not think and not question while shaming those that do, rather than trying to work with them to learn and combine these two fields of study.
There are aspects of the Bible that I do believe scientists tend to dismiss out of hand, which I don't completely agree with either. That said, I suspect that scientists(far too broad generalization, I know, and sorry for it) give the Bible more of a fair shake than crappy half-baked over-indoctrinated Christians give them.
You are very generous with your 2/10 boss. Be fair and give this one a 0. Maybe a 1 if you want to give brownie points for knowing the word quadruped but that's' still generous.
Curious: what do you see scientists dismiss out of hand, RE religion?
@@massacred666 In my personal experience having discussions with various scientists (had a few of these, I used to travel a lot and it's amazing what you can get strangers to talk about in airports) they tend to fall into the "either, or" fallacy pitfall. We can't prove this magical space-time-make-something-from-nothing entity exists, therefore it doesn't. Mind you- my sample size is absolutely tiny- about four conversations, give or take. The most reasonable one still held this view point but in more of a "we don't know so we can't know" kind of way. I think that's a different fallacy but I really don't feel like looking it up right now.
So, essentially the existence of God, to start. The second idea is that evolution is guided. Again, basically for the same reasons. While Christians tend to be too keen on identifying patterns and using them as proof, scientists are too quick to dismiss such patterns as coincidence when there is no proof that it is. There was more, but this was over the span of around the last 15 years so there is a lot I don't remember.
But that's just my observations and opinion derived from my personal experience. It would be fascinating to have some far reaching polls done to prove or disprove it but I do not have the reach to do so, nor the gumption. The bottom line to me is that both sides have some merit that should be investigated, and I am satisfied with that. A more ambitious person with more of an interest in studying society and human interaction might like more though.
At this point it would be fair to call it a stereotype I have developed based on personal experience.
Sorry for wall of text.
@@Eranderil , not at all. I think those are valid points and I see what you mean. The vehement passion is probably due to the equal vehemence on the religious side. A combination of a certain amount of distain against religion, caused e.g. by the overconfidence in something with religious proof but not observable/scientific proof, or having religion shoved down their throats, is likely a factor in a lot of cases.
I'm in the same boat as what you mentioned, in that I see no evidence either way, so it's kind of a non-conversation. In my mind it's simply "yes, here's the religious proof", Vs "very unlikely, as there's no observable/scientific proof".
As with many discussions, language doesn't necessarily mean the same thing to everyone and sometimes that may clear things up. Mind you, some people do see a book or a tradition or verbal story to be absolutely equivalent to visible, live measures, which, while I don't agree, I can understand how the mind can think that way. We probably all did at some point in our lives. In school we're taught to follow books and that they're correct, for example. Only when you learn that have revisions do you realise that everything you're passed and failed on is the current understanding. And hopefully you aren't learning from an old textbook.
I can also see an argument that in some respects, seeking something specific in science that has also illuded us, like proving a unified theory, is, in some ways, similar to seeking an illusive deity. Through the lense of a religious-proof-mind it's equally possible with equal amounts of signs and evidence. So, I can see how people can feel religion is equivalent to, or better than the other frameworks of understanding, but similarly how those of a scientific disposition can readily conclude it's not true the same way they might observe the insides of a box and state there's nothing inside.
There we go. Wall of text Bros.
What you said: "You are setting kids up to fail, and as an educator that pisses me off."
What people like him think to themselves when they hear you say that:
"If I'm pissing people off, I MUST be right!"
Dare to be Stupid, son.
mans entire argument was "I don't know what I'm talking about"
and to give him credit he was right
Is there a song out there that does the same thing but strawmanning creationists?
Oh wait.
Creationism doesn't need to be strawmanning because it's obviously wrong.
_A sacrifice is rather nice, so Abe go grab your knife,_
_and stab your son until he's done to gain eternal life._
_Build a boat, it's gonna rain, for forty days and nights,_
_Now all the world, should bow before, the chosen Israelites!_
_They say that God is right and just, almighty well and good,_
_He always drives a brand new Dodge, with Hemi under-hood._
_Well God was pissed with man until, that Jesus came along,_
_He suplexed Satan back to hell, and then He wrote this song!_
@@rafetizer copy and paste because you don’t have a mind of your own.
@@MrShnazer The hell you mean copy and paste? I came up with that on the spot, or rather, over the course of about ten minutes. Show me the original if I copy-pasted.
Your evidence is?
@@walnutoil100 show me evidence for the non-existence of unicorns and vampires and we'll show you the same for the non-existence of god. The only "evidence" against is the lack of evidence _for._ That's just how things work my man.
6:43 I totally agree! And even as a 20 year old biology student, I had already internalized the idea that evolution would choose what it wanted to be and that everything wanted to eventually become a human. But now begs the question: What would be a better way to teach this concept to kids, so they don't carry these kinds of misconceptions into their adulthood?
My guess is something simple like how the species of plant that has a green flower and a white flower (might be wrong about the colours) that due to humans picking the white flowers the plants are more likely to grow green flowers.
Something that shows an external action and a consequence
Talk about how so many sea creatures gained the darker pigments on the top of them while lighter colors are found on their underside,
@@isdrakon9802 im not a scientist, but its possible that they developed darker pigmets on the top of their skin which would be facing the sun, and the darker pigments would help protect them from the cancer causing UV rays
@@aradia9726 I'm late to this party, but the darker skin on top for stuff dwelling in the ocean is actually because, when you're looking down from higher up, the deep ocean looks very dark, so darker colors is camouflage, much like when you look up its lighter, so the lighter underbelly is also camouflage.
The idea that all animals have special abilities and senses that we don't have should be enough to consider that humans are not "the best result of evolution". Even our closest cousins the chimps have better strentgh, speed, visual memory and other traits than us.
I am personally less charitable than you, I see his condencing attitude while he's completely wrong on the subject and can't "just forgive it for being a silly little song". As you say it's also a massive issue that people whose parents think he's an authority will preach that screwed view and hinder their development of knowledge
Good TH-camr,
really. A smaller GMS,
which is nice to have on YT.
But not a 'Healthy Atheist',
but a 'Semi-Healthy Atheist',
evidend by:
-Mix-up of 'All Religion' and 'JUST Christianity'.
Thats a common mistake. Very common.
Some literally say 'Lets talk about Religion' and then
proceed to only talk about Christians alone.
-Nicely leaves out all positive points about Religion.
Like Hope and much more. Talks as if its just
some big negative ball of wool.
-Leaves out entirely and never mentions the fact
that people go from Atheist TO Religious also.
Talks as if this doesnt exist, which appears biased, to say the least.
-Talks sometimes like being Christian auto-turns
you R-pist or makes you Stone people. Which is objectively wrong.
Yeah, having heavy feelings about Stoning and R-pe is totally
and utterly understandable, but: Whats unhealthier than to think all Christians are automatically bad people?
Well, thats that.
-Common Misunderstandings and widespread Misconception
about the 'Plan' and the surrounding stuff.
@@slevinchannel7589 what in the world are you talking about. Your points don't even hold as the video talks about specific videos not necessarily the whole og religion (btw It's weird you talk about conflating and then claims that hope is something inherent to Religion)
@@unknowndane4754 I meant the Channel and not the Video.
I love the fact that they're mocking a "glob of goo" when their explanation is a magic man snapping his fingers like a damn Genie 🧞
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Our celebs literally apologize to big daddy China for daring to oppose their propaganda.
Yeah, this song would have made me suspicious as a kid. Anytime I noticed authorities poking fun at something it usually made me wonder what they were so afraid of...