*EDIT 6/28/21:* This video just broke 300k views and we cannot thank all of you enough! We never had any idea this video would gain so much traction and we appreciate all of you who have watched and commented immensely. I wanted to take a second and clear the air on a couple of things however, particularly the audio which looks (and sounds) like the elephant in the room: As happy as we are over the success this video has attained we are still kicking ourselves months later over the music volume, this is literally the only video on our channel with this issue. We quadruple check each video before we post it now to make sure this never happens again. We also made the decision to put the music at an even lower volume than we did in our earlier videos (despite it not being as distracting as it is in this one) because we felt it was better for the overall viewing experience. If you watch any of our older videos and compare them to our newer ones this is probably noticeable immediately, but again, we think it was a positive change and overall this experience definitely made us better content creators so we are thankful for that. I also feel it is important to address some of the accusations we have gotten and why we haven't reposted the video with corrected audio yet. For starters I have seen some people say that our mistake shows we didn't care about the video and only posted it for a quick cash grab or something, this is laughably far from reality. When we posted this video we had barely over 100 subscribers, so making money off of it wasn't even something in our minds at the time. We put a lot of work into our videos, and while this mistake was an embarrassing oversight, I emphatically push back on the notion that we didn't care. We cared a lot, we just screwed up. "Why don't you just fix the audio and repost it?" This is a great question and I hate to pull the common TH-camr excuse of blaming the platform but essentially it's because of how TH-cam works. The algorithm shined its light onto this video and as a result we have gained thousands of subscribers, views, and hours of watch time from it. To this day this video accounts for over 90% of the new subs, views, and watch time our channel gets. If I unlist the video and post a new version with corrected audio I'm rolling the dice that the algorithm shows the new video the same amount of love and odds are it wont. That would basically mean I'm destroying the video that is driving most of the traffic to our channel just for the sake of turning the music down, and frankly that's not a sacrifice I'm willing to make. I'm sorry if that sounds cowardly, but for a small channel trying to grow a video this successful is too valuable to lose. If the general consensus was the video is completely unwatchable and the reaction was overwhelmingly negative I would do this, but most viewers seem to think it is a flawed but good video. I know for some people the music makes it unwatchable and I am profoundly sorry for that, as much as we've gotten beat up in the comments over it I can assure you we have beaten ourselves up even more. I hope you will be willing to give some of our other work a chance despite any disdain you may have for this video, but I'm not naïve enough to not realize there are some of you who won't. So again, I am sorry. "Will you ever post a fixed version?" As I said above, AT THE MOMENT this video is too important to our channel to do that, but that doesn't mean we'd rule it out in the future. If/When a day comes that we aren't so reliant on this one video as a source of traffic we certainly wouldn't mind posting a corrected version of it. Again, I know some of you will view this as a cowardly excuse, but when you're trying to a grow a channel this is just the sort of things you have to think about. Hopefully there comes a day where this video isn't doing all the heavy lifting for our channel and we can do that. Overall this video has done amazingly well for us so I don't mean to sound whiney, ungrateful, or like I'm making excuses. We couldn't be more thrilled with the amount of traffic this has brought us, and aside from one glaring mistake we think it's a damn good video. We appreciate everyone who has watched it and taken the time to comment, you have made our channel better and we thank you for that =) *Corrections and Additional Info* 1. I've added a list of sources for anyone who is curious, I will go back through our other videos one by one and add these as well. 2. We are well aware some of you find the music too loud and we agree, it's not an issue in our other videos and we used the exact same settings when doing the audio as we always do so we had to look into why it happened but we think we figured it out. Of course this mistake would happen on our first video to actually get a good amount of views but that's life I suppose lol. As I'm sure you can understand with it now becoming the most successful video on our channel we're not going to take it down just to fix the audio, but your feedback HAS BEEN HEARD and we will make sure this never happens again. Thank you. 3. It has been brought to my attention that Crane's character in Hogan's Heroes wasn't an Air Force colonel (the air force was not created until after WW2), but was a part of the US Army Air Forces which was technically a different entity. Sorry about that.
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Good video but I found it hard to listen to with the weird background music. Thanks just the same. Used to watch Hogan's Heroes as a kid. Didn't realize he was another Hollywood perv.
The question should be: Why did you put music in the first place? Is the content so bad, that you need to distract? Better not to have music if transmission of information is the goal.
It always amazes me that videos and books into Crane's murder fail to mention that Bob wasn't exactly a stickler about age when he had his sexual encounters. In today's age, Crane would've almost certainly been accused of statutory rape. And if you think of it that way, it's not hard to imagine that some angry father of a teenaged girl Crane seduced and took pictures of, ended up killing him over it.
On the contrary to what the narrator says I actually think nowadays Disney would give him a promotion for his lifestyle. If they're hiring men to play Disney princesses in the parks, they would hardly be upset with perversions he had.
Kathryn are you talking about Republican superstar Matt Gaetz now, because obviously he did just that, paid for sex and bragged about the woman he bought to his colleagues at the Capitol and showed them pictures of his purchases. Reports claim even minors was involved and equally hard core Republican and Trump fan Bill Barr started an investigation in to it that isn’t finished yet!
@@bokhans good lord. So obsessed with politics that you come on a sight about Bob Cranes murder to post something, lol. It's still a country of innocent until proven guilty, but the media is changing that.
@@bokhans how about Democrat Bill Clinton. He would scout campaign crouds and pick out woman he would want to hook up with and have his associates meet with them for rendezvous.
@@mikepastor.k6233 interacting with people without name and picture that obviously support a pedophile is not in mine or your interest. Huge difference between picking up children and adults. Bill was a slime ball but still it was consenting sex among adults. Trump and Gaetz was picking up children. rense.com/general96/trump-has-paid-about-30-million-to-settle-child-sex-complaints.php This article is by an award winning author.
When you are sleeping with so many woman mathematically some significant other is going to get mad.Very mad and its as old as time that it can lead to murder.It's a dangerous hobby.
Very true was only thinking the same thing. He more than likely got too friendly with someone else's woman & paid for it with his life Sadly. Real shame when murders are not solved.
Lots of people think Carpenter is the most likely suspect, but it's a very real possibility that someone Crane had sex with had a very psychotically jealous husband or boyfriend.
The "jealous" party could have been a female who was jilted that evening, or at least recently. She certainly would have had the opportunity if he was asleep. Or she could have tricked him into allowing her to tie him up with a promise something kinky would ensue, then bludgeon him with the tripod. Then again, circumstances do point to Carpenter.
FYI: At 10:30, the narrator states that "By Saturday morning, Bob Crane had not shown for work..." June 29, 1978 was a Thursday--not a Saturday. Bob Crane was murdered in the pre-dawn hours of that Thursday. One of his "Beginner's Luck" co-stars--Victoria Berry--went to his apartment that afternoon of the same day after he failed to show up for a scheduled lunch meeting. She found his body.
@@crochunter35 THATS. WZ. JUST. EVIL THAT. WHO. EVER DID THAT. SHOULD REALLY. FRY. 4. WHAT. THEY. DONE. TOO BOB. I DIDNT. LIKE THE. SHOW. THAT WELL BUT BOB WZ A GOOD ACTOR. RIP BUDDY.😥😥😥😥😥
Mr. Crane suffered a brutal death. I remember the news coverage,as I was a teenager living in southern Arizona at the time. Too much bafoonary at the time. I believe the Scottsdale PD were lazy and careless about securing the crime scene and collecting evidence at that time, because it involved an actor,and they were star struck. Let Me. Crane rest in peace. We'll probably never know what really happened. GOD will deal with the guilty in the end.
@@susanfurman That's true.But his life of depravity was during an era when it was less "acceptable" than it is today. Today's showbiz stars proudly proclaim their depravity whereas during Crane's time he'd be expected to keep it a secret.
If the subject matter is thin or uninteresting, then music is an excellent filler, but when it’s interesting, meaty content that we all want to hear, there should be no music at all.
I’ve heard that Bob was in therapy for his sex addiction. He was trying to get control of it because Sigrid was not allowing their son who was a child at the time to spend time with his father because of the sex addiction. I believe it was causing friction with his older kids as well so he was seeking treatment. One of the things an addict who is in rehab has to do is to cut off contact with people who enabled the addiction or participated in it also. Also the addict has to stay away from places and situations that could cause a relapse. So Bob was breaking it off with John Carpenter and John wasn’t happy about it. John knew that without Bob’s good looks and celebrity he (John) would have a harder time attracting women. So I think John was the killer because he was angry about not being able to ride on Bob’s coattails anymore once Bob ended the friendship.
@@frankfacts6207 - It doesn’t sound like much of a motive to most people. For most people it wouldn’t be a motive. But there are some additional circumstances here in this particular case that could create a motive where normally there wouldn’t be one. 1. John Carpenter worked selling video equipment. That’s how he and Bob Crane met. Bob was buying his video equipment, tapes, etc. from John. As often as Bob was recording he probably needed to buy way more tapes than the average person. Also video taping was a new technology back then. The equipment was expensive. Not like now. If John was getting any commission or brownie points of any kind in addition to his base pay from his employer as incentive or compensation for how much he sold, then Bob Crane getting his sex addiction under control would mean that he wouldn’t be buying as much video equipment and that could have negatively affected John’s income and/or his status with his employer. 2. John Carpenter could’ve gone out catting around without Bob, but John was neither famous nor good looking. By himself he wouldn’t have been able to attract the type of woman that Bob could attract. 3. Bob and John were not just buddies who picked up girls together, they were BFFs. Bob cutting it off with him could’ve upset John on that level 4. Supposedly, John was bisexual. Maybe he was interested in being more than friends or friends with benefits with Bob and Bob said no. That could have instigated a crime of passion. 5. Bob and John weren’t just ladies men. They were sex addicts. If you’re an addict and your buddy who helps provide you with your fix tells you he’s not going to continue doing that, you could get angry enough or desperate enough to kill him. To me # 5 is the biggest factor - Bob wasn’t going to be facilitating John’s addiction anymore. Addicts generally don’t take kindly to people who refuse to facilitate their addiction. Let’s say they’re meth addicts instead of sex addicts. One of them has access to a supply of high quality meth. The other doesn’t and the other doesn’t know anyone else who does have access to high quality meth. When the one who has access to the high quality meth goes to rehab, gets clean, and doesn’t have anything to do with meth anymore, that cuts off the other guy’s access to the high quality meth. The other guy, who doesn’t want to quit using meth can still get and use, but he will have to settle for lower quality. That very well could be a motive for murder. I don’t know for sure who killed Bob Crane. John Carpenter was brought to trial twice and was never convicted. I still suspect that he was the murderer, but I could be wrong. Whoever it was was angry. I’ve seen color photos of the crime scene. I wish I hadn’t. It was very bloody and gruesome. There are much easier ways to kill a sleeping man than standing over him on the bed and repeatedly swinging a camera tripod to beat him in the head until he dies. Because of the obvious passion involved, I guess it could’ve been the husband or boyfriend of one of the women Bob had sex with. But it still could’ve been John Carpenter. He could’ve been angry enough. The fact is that the Scottsdale Police did not do a good job with the investigation. It’s just going to go down as unsolved.
@@juststeve7665 - I know it was there. There could be more than 1 explanation. 1. Auto-erotic asphyxia. Instead of being asleep, he could’ve been unconscious. I think this theory is unlikely. 2. The killer could’ve strangled him with it long enough to make him unconscious so that he wouldn’t scream or try to fight off the attacker. 3. The killer could’ve intended to use the cord to kill by strangulation and found some kind of difficulty with that, so decided to bludgeon Bob over the head with a camera tripod. I’m pretty sure that the only one who knows why the electrical cord was wrapped around Bob’s neck is the killer.
Different transitions in life are challenging but there will be another side to this. Thank you for continuing to be honest and share. I think you’re a storyteller, and stories change as life changes. ❤
Seriously! I tapped out in under a minute. Seeing as how homeboy hasn’t fixed it in 2 years that tells me he gives fuck-all about what his viewers have to say. I’m out of here, never to return…
Thanks for such a detailed video, and kudos for acknowledging the issue with music volume in the face of unnecessarily unpleasant criticism IMO. It takes time to learn editing and uploading techniques and compression rates etc can be tricky buggers! I for one would happily watch a reuploaded, improved version but I understand you are growing your channel and don’t want to lose your viewing figures. I’m subscribing and will look forward to future content. Very best of luck to you, keep at it 👏👍
Thanks for the kind words and being so understanding, we may consider doing a re-upload sometime in the future once the channel has more subs and is getting regular views. But for now its been too successful for us to pull the rug out, again thank you for understanding and hope you enjoy all the upcoming content!
In the mid- '70's, I was working at a department store in upstate N.Y. I was standing on a ladder adjusting a display fixture near the ceiling. The elevator doors opened, and out came a cameraman, walking backwards, followed by Bob Crane, flanked by two beautiful women. I believe that Crane had his arms around the womens' shoulders. The procession, the backwards- walking cameraman who was filming, Crane and the two women, proceeded from the elevator to the store lobby, and then out the front doors of the store. All of the store employees began to chatter and gossip.
I saw uncensored crime scene photos of his murder. Whoever killed him was totally enraged at him...this was not some random crime...he was literally beaten to a pulp. 😒
It was such a great show. Bob Crane was so appealing. The generals and gestapo were so hilarious! And Schultz was a lovebug. I still watch it and laugh hard.
@James Sullivanoh so you’ve never criticised or made a complaint to make things better nobhead? How about if you didn’t agree you just stfu? Seems ok for you to have a grip and not others.
- I still remember laying on the living room floor watching Hogan's Hero's on our color TV. , Just weird finding this out about Bob Crane all these years later.
As someone who had been in a relationship with a sex addict, it’s a difficult addiction to understand. This was very easy to relate to and informative.
Wow, thank you! I grew up watching Hogan's Heros on re-run in the 80's. Sounds like he engaged in some legal, consenting, adult activity. Today it wouldn't be looked down upon. He was a great actor. I encourage everyone to enjoy Hogan's Heros whenever possible. Bravo! Well done!
He would film having sex with women who didn't know they were being filmed so that's not what I would call " consensual" . He was a bit of a prick obviously and messed with the wrong women whos boyfriend or husband was not happy .
very well done....as someone who grew up watching Hogan's heroes you gave us Information while at the same time, giving him Dignity....I believe his grave has been featured on a Video youtube..Hollywood graves / and Ingrid is buried next to him
Sex addiction is something people usually laugh or blow off. Like all addictions it hurts people around u. Men or women, old or young its a problem to those who have it. Also you have to remember most people who have it aren't rich and famous, thats a whole other set of problems that one has to think about. Well made video and done with the right attitude. Glad it wasn't exploitation which tooo many of these insights into famous people with problems are.
Just remember that “sex addiction“ is still a hotly contested issue. Psychologists do not recognize this has a real addiction or mental health issue. There is a real tendency to demonize people who have high sex drives by just automatically calling it an addiction. The secondary issue is that I a lot of this took place in the 60s and early 70s during the sexual revolution. This was the first time that people were beginning to experiment with sex and sexuality in a more open way and there were plenty of more conservative people who were not happy with that. I’m just saying that context is important to understanding the issue.
I never knew Bob Crane was on the Twilight Zone, so had to go look it up. It was actually an uncredited bit, he did the radio announcer voice in the episode named "Static" about an old man who uses an old radio to listen to programs from the 1930's and 40's. So he never had any screen time, which I"d have recognized him, and which is why I never knew he was on the show.
Well he did later interview Rod Serling on a radio show and I suppose Rod Serling must have been impressed by Bob Crane, because he then cast Bob Crane in an episode of his other paranormal show Night Gallery.
I remember this when I was a kid, at the time I thought it was so spooky the killer had not been caught...as an adult I think it was Carpenter. I saw the movie of his life, however true it was- it was fascinating and ultimately sad.
Difficult to hear what you’re saying with that loud music I don’t know why you had that music playing. I know Bob Crane was killed by his friend who hung onto him but he was never convicted or arrested. If you make another video keep the music out of it.
Actually, John Carpenter WAS arrested by Scottsdale PD in 1990, he Was put on trial, but Carpenters attorney managed to get the jury confused about the " validity " of the DNA evidence, & the jury acquitted Carpenter of the murder; one juror later said, " if they could've identified that little strip of blood on the door panel of the rental car as ' Cranes, we would've found him guilty, but they couldn't ". Crane's family, like myself, believe Carpenter got away with murder.
@@thomasharrison3126 He definitely got away with murder and they didn’t have the same DNA expertise they do now and Carpenter is probably dead so even if they took the evidence and did familial DNA and found out it was him it would be too late. That is not Justice for Bob Crane and his family .
He sounds like a nice guy with an addiction. An addiction that in today's time could have been treated. And there's no denying he was a funny and talented actor. It's a shame that his murder remains unsolved and that he never got the help he needed.
Guy liked to have lots of sex, that's for sure. Don't know if it classifies as an addiction, though I believe that if you're married you shouldn't be getting any strange...
@@thomasharrison3126 it's still classed as unsolved Carpenter was acquitted it's no different to OJ Simpson most believe he did it but the murders will always be classed as unsolved because he was acquitted
At the time of his death, Bob was working on a planned cable-TV series on various topics. I was supposed to be interviewed for it, but was pushed out by others who worked at the same place I did, without my knowledge. A few weeks after this, or maybe a month later, he was murdered - so the program was never finished or shown.
@@dx1450 yeah & it plays all day on Saturdays on Sundance TV I’m young but I enjoy the Andy Griffith show & Hogan’s heroes not a big fan of mash & the others but those two I can watch all day
@@gawdszn302 I never liked mash when I was a kid (b. 1980), but working at a nightclub in the mid 00s, and getting home after 3am, MASH was one of the few things on (it’s been said it’s on at all times, somewhere in the world, which I believe). I got so hooked I bought the box set, which allows you to watch without the laugh track - totally different show! - and watched from s1e1 to the finale, which is a lot of episodes, but without commercials are only 22m. Try it if you can find it.
@@jonathannagel7427 yeah like my dad & older people enjoy mash & Andy Griffith show which that’s my fav old time show of all time tbh it plays almost all day on weekdays I even bought amazon prime to watch it on prime lol 😂..but yeah MASH is a very popular show I’ll check it out
@@gawdszn302 Because my parents were a doctor and nurse, I figured it was way more medical than it actually is, maybe something like House during wartime, and the mellow song, “suicide is painless,” didn’t suggest comedy to me back then. Check out a version of that with words sometime. (Also interesting is the song from Cheers: the second verse involves gender reassignment or transvestism)
yes, once you are aware of the music, it is very distracting. Kindly suggesting that your content will be greatly improved without the background music.
Wow! Watching this video on the 43rd anniversary of his death. I remember my mom and I missed the show. We saw the posters on the doors of the theater telling us the show was canceled.
After I listened to this documentary I subscribed because this documentary was easy to follow, informative and well researched on the subject. I also like the narrator, easy to listen to voice. Most of the channels have a narrator who's voice is annoying as well as background music overrides the narrator and does not even follow any action being described. Therefore, making the documentary more annoying. This documentary can ease up on the background music to. I am sure this channel will make their videos better for their audience. Thank You and God Bless!
@@skandababy that didn't help since it's equal to having your drug dealer helping you by providing you with the substance. No one was stopping him from this addiction, they just kept feeding him his addiction until he struck a chord with enemies. It seems he was too deep into his addiction to be self-aware of the consequence it had on his life.
The story goes that when John Carpenter flew back to Los Angeles on the night of Crane's murder he stayed at Richard Dawson's house when police finally contacted him. Apparently, he wasn't shaken at all when he was told the news which made investigators very suspicious of him. Years later when Dawson was questioned about Carpenter coming to his home he apparently became very defensive and wouldn't discuss it.
Bob Crane was hosting miss nude pageants in the late 70s. There was an underground newspaper going around where I lived and the advertisement was on it with him as the MC of the show.
I believe he was killed by a husband, boyfriend or brother of one of the girls he was messing with. They found out about it,made the girl tell them Crane's address,then went over there and killed him. They must have had one hell of a temper to kill him like that. RIP.
I loved Bob Crane....I really believe John Carpenter killed him. A gut feeling but I think it is pretty obvious. The police just couldn't put forth a solid case.
His comedic talent was undeniable. I lean toward agreeing that Carpenter was responsible, the entire investigation was way too much for a small town police department to handle and they dropped the ball hard, so that's likely a big reason we'll never truly know what happened. Thanks for watching!
The Key Stone cops new more about a murder investigation than the Scottsdale police did in 1978. They had John Carpenter by the balls because they had a piece of Crane's brains found in the cab he took to the airport the morning after the murder. Problem is they lost it. That let Carpenter walk.
Great video, it’s nice to see a subject not widely covered. I remember my sister used to watch Hogan’s Heroes but I never quite got the humor, even now it seems like an odd plot. I agree about the distracting music, it seems to compete with your voice in volume and is too repetitive. I still found this very interesting and enjoyed the watch.
Thanks for posting this, the story is worth telling despite the tragedy. I appreciate your even-keel and honest approach. And your music is OK, but it's a little loud and sometimes drowns-out your voice.
Really informative and well done content. I actually read some of the comments and hate to sound like a broken record, but the music is terrible. No other way to describe it. It in no way fits the narrative and is WAY too loud. Hopefully you can learn from this for future videos because the underlying talent is there.
I have seen Auto Focus. IMO, it was based too closely on Robert (Zodiac) Greysmith's book, "The Murder of Bob Crane" which was published one year before Carpenter's trial.
@@KlausBahnhof I've seen the doco on his life and death and he was just a pervert. No one should be making a movie out of a perverts life, some stupid people will think its ok to be one.
The Body Shop, a nude strip club, recently closed in San Diego. When we interviewed some of the employees there a few mentioned that Bob Crane used to be a regular there with his own table. They said the most of the dancers of the time knew him very well with a few select dancers having a relationship with him outside the club.
The murder took place about 25 yards away from where I was sleeping that night in another building in the Winfield Apartment complex on Chaparral Road in Scottsdale, AZ. The next morning on my way to the pool, as the police were cordoning off the crime scene, they spotted me and wanted to know who I was and what I was doing there. That was pretty scary, as I had no idea what was going on. I did happen to notice Crane's scantily clad co-star milling around with the police. As I found out Crane's apartment was leased by the Windmill Comedy Club for use by their featured guest star. That made sense, because a couple of months before I found myself floating around in the complex' swimming pool with the Joker himself, Caesar Romero, who was the the featured guest star at the Windmill Comedy Club at that time. We all know that that guy Carpenter did it and sure wish justice had been administered swiftly to him. Bob Crane was a great actor, but most of all a great guy! RIP Bob!
Mr.Crane had been doing "Beginner's Luck" at the Windmill theatre (I don't know how long it was running for)--curious if you had ever seen Mr. Crane while he was there--there was also a story that his soon to be ex-wife (Patty Olson) had visited just a few days before his death--and also curious where he took his meals--were there restaurants in the area where the cast ate while in Scotsdale?
I'm addicted to watching Hogan's Heroes. When I was a kid back in the 1970s, I couldn't stop laughing at it on TV. But now I have the full DVD collection of it, and still can't stop laughing at it. Plus TV isn't as good as it used to be either, and I watch DVDs more than anything else. But it's a terrible shame that the mystery of Bob Crane's death will never be fully solved. He should have fully locked the door of the apartment he was staying in at the time while he was sleeping. It was a shame that a movie based on the Hogan's Heroes series never got to be produced too.
Me to Malcom . My fav episode of hogans heroes which I know them all happens to be the one when carter has Indian background and uses the arrow. . Classic
I read your explanation after posting my comment about the music. Sorry, I didn't realize that horse was dead, lol. It's a very good video and the only thing that would stop me watching more is if you didn't see the problem. I can see that you spent a lot of time writing and recording the narration and the photos are great. Thank you. I'm looking forward to checking out your other stuff. I listened to another vid about this story, which brought me here and yours is so much better. I hope you channel continues to do well. Good luck.
He was a great actor its sad he had a sex problem but its horrific that his murder is unsolved. This talented actor died to young and his family deserve justice.
I have heard a few rumors over the Years.. This video seems to be well researched and seems to provide about as much info as is possible to come up with ..
I remember when all this went down. We were nonplussed and became cynical about celebrities' clean roles on TV and in movies. So many of the men were divorcing their wives of 22-25 years and the mother of their children, only to marry a young actress they recently co-starred with in some movie. Shameful!
I love the narrator for these videos. When you said he met his friend John Carpenter, I said, Oh wow, and you said, No, not that one, it was pretty funny! These are highly entertaining and I could listen to your voice all day.
I met Bob Crane in Akron Ohio of all places at the now defunct Derby Downs. He was there for the all American soap box derby championship. I was in the boy scouts and was part of the flag raising ceremony. I saw him walking around curving things out and approached. I said hey you're Bob Crane right? He was wearing a long coat, jeans, sneakers and sun glasses. He says to you are the first to recognize me. We talked for about a half hour I told him what I was doing with the flag thing and we talked about Hogan's Heroes and what he was working on currently. Then he took off his sun glasses and gave me his autograph. I think it was a year later he was murdered. In was sad for him and his family.
Here's a case that's best left to sleep. When a murdered person has so many enemies that the police hardly know where to start, when the person has ruined the lives of scores, when the activity that led to the murder can't be properly disclosed, this is an indication that anyone actually accused would be picked from a jelly bean jar and would likely be no more guilty than the next. I always like the question: can you think of anyone who would want Mr. Crane dead? If the answers are nearly countless, it's hopeless.
As a retired criminal investigator, I can say that, in reality, you don't go after a list of people who wanted the person dead, you go where the Evidence leads you, & in this case, it All went back to Carpenter.
Can I suggest you remove backing music from your vids. Personally, I find them off-putting and distracting. I also struggle to hear what's being said because of background noise. For me, the music makes listening, very difficult.
It's a shame that Crane never found another sitcom that was as good as Hogan's Heroes. Being a fan of his, I wanted to watch Superdad, but it is not available on Disney plus.
@@mikepatrick5909 You're probably right on both counts. I've never listened to any of his old radio shows, but if he was as good at being off the cuff and unscripted as people say, he might have made a good talk show host as well. People can, however, become good actors. I re-watched Top Gun a few weeks ago for the first time in well over a decade. Tom Cruise's acting in that role was horrendous, but, over the years, he's become a pretty good actor (or is it all a plot by Xenu?).
*EDIT 6/28/21:* This video just broke 300k views and we cannot thank all of you enough! We never had any idea this video would gain so much traction and we appreciate all of you who have watched and commented immensely. I wanted to take a second and clear the air on a couple of things however, particularly the audio which looks (and sounds) like the elephant in the room:
As happy as we are over the success this video has attained we are still kicking ourselves months later over the music volume, this is literally the only video on our channel with this issue. We quadruple check each video before we post it now to make sure this never happens again. We also made the decision to put the music at an even lower volume than we did in our earlier videos (despite it not being as distracting as it is in this one) because we felt it was better for the overall viewing experience. If you watch any of our older videos and compare them to our newer ones this is probably noticeable immediately, but again, we think it was a positive change and overall this experience definitely made us better content creators so we are thankful for that.
I also feel it is important to address some of the accusations we have gotten and why we haven't reposted the video with corrected audio yet. For starters I have seen some people say that our mistake shows we didn't care about the video and only posted it for a quick cash grab or something, this is laughably far from reality. When we posted this video we had barely over 100 subscribers, so making money off of it wasn't even something in our minds at the time. We put a lot of work into our videos, and while this mistake was an embarrassing oversight, I emphatically push back on the notion that we didn't care. We cared a lot, we just screwed up.
"Why don't you just fix the audio and repost it?" This is a great question and I hate to pull the common TH-camr excuse of blaming the platform but essentially it's because of how TH-cam works. The algorithm shined its light onto this video and as a result we have gained thousands of subscribers, views, and hours of watch time from it. To this day this video accounts for over 90% of the new subs, views, and watch time our channel gets. If I unlist the video and post a new version with corrected audio I'm rolling the dice that the algorithm shows the new video the same amount of love and odds are it wont. That would basically mean I'm destroying the video that is driving most of the traffic to our channel just for the sake of turning the music down, and frankly that's not a sacrifice I'm willing to make. I'm sorry if that sounds cowardly, but for a small channel trying to grow a video this successful is too valuable to lose. If the general consensus was the video is completely unwatchable and the reaction was overwhelmingly negative I would do this, but most viewers seem to think it is a flawed but good video. I know for some people the music makes it unwatchable and I am profoundly sorry for that, as much as we've gotten beat up in the comments over it I can assure you we have beaten ourselves up even more. I hope you will be willing to give some of our other work a chance despite any disdain you may have for this video, but I'm not naïve enough to not realize there are some of you who won't. So again, I am sorry.
"Will you ever post a fixed version?" As I said above, AT THE MOMENT this video is too important to our channel to do that, but that doesn't mean we'd rule it out in the future. If/When a day comes that we aren't so reliant on this one video as a source of traffic we certainly wouldn't mind posting a corrected version of it. Again, I know some of you will view this as a cowardly excuse, but when you're trying to a grow a channel this is just the sort of things you have to think about. Hopefully there comes a day where this video isn't doing all the heavy lifting for our channel and we can do that. Overall this video has done amazingly well for us so I don't mean to sound whiney, ungrateful, or like I'm making excuses. We couldn't be more thrilled with the amount of traffic this has brought us, and aside from one glaring mistake we think it's a damn good video. We appreciate everyone who has watched it and taken the time to comment, you have made our channel better and we thank you for that =)
*Corrections and Additional Info*
1. I've added a list of sources for anyone who is curious, I will go back through our other videos one by one and add these as well.
2. We are well aware some of you find the music too loud and we agree, it's not an issue in our other videos and we used the exact same settings when doing the audio as we always do so we had to look into why it happened but we think we figured it out. Of course this mistake would happen on our first video to actually get a good amount of views but that's life I suppose lol. As I'm sure you can understand with it now becoming the most successful video on our channel we're not going to take it down just to fix the audio, but your feedback HAS BEEN HEARD and we will make sure this never happens again. Thank you.
3. It has been brought to my attention that Crane's character in Hogan's Heroes wasn't an Air Force colonel (the air force was not created until after WW2), but was a part of the US Army Air Forces which was technically a different entity. Sorry about that.
It’s not all that bad. I think it’s a great video. Lots of information and interesting. Thank you!
New subscriber here! I'm enjoying your content! I'm looking forward to more content from you. Well researched! I love supporting small crime channels, thank you for your hard work!! 🤗😊
Good video but I found it hard to listen to with the weird background music. Thanks just the same. Used to watch Hogan's Heroes as a kid. Didn't realize he was another Hollywood perv.
Turn the background music down, it's sooooo annoying.
The question should be: Why did you put music in the first place? Is the content so bad, that you need to distract? Better not to have music if transmission of information is the goal.
It always amazes me that videos and books into Crane's murder fail to mention that Bob wasn't exactly a stickler about age when he had his sexual encounters. In today's age, Crane would've almost certainly been accused of statutory rape. And if you think of it that way, it's not hard to imagine that some angry father of a teenaged girl Crane seduced and took pictures of, ended up killing him over it.
Where did you hear the underage accusations?
That depends, in a lot of states outside of hosting large cities like NY & CA, the legal age of consent is 16.
@@Axolotl_Mischief it might have been lower in some places in the 60s and 70s
On the contrary to what the narrator says I actually think nowadays Disney would give him a promotion for his lifestyle. If they're hiring men to play Disney princesses in the parks, they would hardly be upset with perversions he had.
@Axolotl_Mischief California and New York are one of the few states you can STILL marry your cousin
Why is the background music so loud? Other than that an interesting story.
One more Hogan’s Heroes fact: the drum solo on the show’s theme song was played by Crane himself.
I call bullshit
@@bobpapp9538 Wikipedia says it's true . . . for whatever that's worth.
nope
@@bobpapp9538Why?
TOO DAM MUCH BACKGROUND MUSIC !!!!!!
The fact that he is showing naked pics of woman to his coworkers and not seeing how wrong that was shows just how far gone he was with his addiction.
Kathryn are you talking about Republican superstar Matt Gaetz now, because obviously he did just that, paid for sex and bragged about the woman he bought to his colleagues at the Capitol and showed them pictures of his purchases. Reports claim even minors was involved and equally hard core Republican and Trump fan Bill Barr started an investigation in to it that isn’t finished yet!
@@bokhans good lord. So obsessed with politics that you come on a sight about Bob Cranes murder to post something, lol. It's still a country of innocent until proven guilty, but the media is changing that.
@@bokhans how about Democrat Bill Clinton. He would scout campaign crouds and pick out woman he would want to hook up with and have his associates meet with them for rendezvous.
@@mikepastor.k6233 interacting with people without name and picture that obviously support a pedophile is not in mine or your interest.
Huge difference between picking up children and adults. Bill was a slime ball but still it was consenting sex among adults. Trump and Gaetz was picking up children.
rense.com/general96/trump-has-paid-about-30-million-to-settle-child-sex-complaints.php
This article is by an award winning author.
Hans Bjorkman Rense is also a anti semite. A conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier...Now we know what your bigoted views are.
When you are sleeping with so many woman mathematically some significant other is going to get mad.Very mad and its as old as time that it can lead to murder.It's a dangerous hobby.
Very true was only thinking the same thing. He more than likely got too friendly with someone else's woman & paid for it with his life Sadly. Real shame when murders are not solved.
Lots of people think Carpenter is the most likely suspect, but it's a very real possibility that someone Crane had sex with had a very psychotically jealous husband or boyfriend.
Yes Gregory ! The old cliche.!
' You Play ; You Pay ' !
The "jealous" party could have been a female who was jilted that evening, or at least recently. She certainly would have had the opportunity if he was asleep. Or she could have tricked him into allowing her to tie him up with a promise something kinky would ensue, then bludgeon him with the tripod. Then again, circumstances do point to Carpenter.
I heard years later he was supposed to do a porn flick for a mob boss in LA and decided to back out, penalty: he was taken out
FYI: At 10:30, the narrator states that "By Saturday morning, Bob Crane had not shown for work..." June 29, 1978 was a Thursday--not a Saturday. Bob Crane was murdered in the pre-dawn hours of that Thursday. One of his "Beginner's Luck" co-stars--Victoria Berry--went to his apartment that afternoon of the same day after he failed to show up for a scheduled lunch meeting. She found his body.
Music way too loud
Yeah, I was thinking that they needed to tone down the music a few dB.
What did you say? I can't hear you.
@@crochunter35 THATS. WZ. JUST. EVIL THAT. WHO. EVER DID THAT. SHOULD REALLY. FRY. 4. WHAT. THEY. DONE. TOO BOB. I DIDNT. LIKE THE. SHOW. THAT WELL BUT BOB WZ A GOOD ACTOR. RIP BUDDY.😥😥😥😥😥
I can’t listen because the music is driving me nuts.
I have to say, the piano music in this is REALLY annoying!
Yes
Mr. Crane suffered a brutal death. I remember the news coverage,as I was a teenager living in southern Arizona at the time. Too much bafoonary at the time. I believe the Scottsdale PD were lazy and careless about securing the crime scene and collecting evidence at that time, because it involved an actor,and they were star struck. Let Me. Crane rest in peace. We'll probably never know what really happened. GOD will deal with the guilty in the end.
*buffoonery 😉😉
He led a life of depravity...God's judgement might be pretty harsh.
@@jackfitzpatrick8173 Yes he did. As did many actors. They still do.
@@susanfurman That's true.But his life of depravity was during an era when it was less "acceptable" than it is today. Today's showbiz stars proudly proclaim their depravity whereas during Crane's time he'd be expected to keep it a secret.
Maybe god killed him for making porn?
Good commentary and well-researched but found the music very off-putting.
Thank you for the kind words and honest feedback.
i feel the same way, maybe just turn it down.
music very distracting!
Overpowering background music in essence
If the subject matter is thin or uninteresting, then music is an excellent filler, but when it’s interesting, meaty content that we all want to hear, there should be no music at all.
I’ve heard that Bob was in therapy for his sex addiction. He was trying to get control of it because Sigrid was not allowing their son who was a child at the time to spend time with his father because of the sex addiction. I believe it was causing friction with his older kids as well so he was seeking treatment. One of the things an addict who is in rehab has to do is to cut off contact with people who enabled the addiction or participated in it also. Also the addict has to stay away from places and situations that could cause a relapse. So Bob was breaking it off with John Carpenter and John wasn’t happy about it. John knew that without Bob’s good looks and celebrity he (John) would have a harder time attracting women. So I think John was the killer because he was angry about not being able to ride on Bob’s coattails anymore once Bob ended the friendship.
That's not much motive - your friend tells you to stop expecting him to get you girls and you kill him? Really?
@@frankfacts6207 - It doesn’t sound like much of a motive to most people. For most people it wouldn’t be a motive. But there are some additional circumstances here in this particular case that could create a motive where normally there wouldn’t be one.
1. John Carpenter worked selling video equipment. That’s how he and Bob Crane met. Bob was buying his video equipment, tapes, etc. from John. As often as Bob was recording he probably needed to buy way more tapes than the average person. Also video taping was a new technology back then. The equipment was expensive. Not like now. If John was getting any commission or brownie points of any kind in addition to his base pay from his employer as incentive or compensation for how much he sold, then Bob Crane getting his sex addiction under control would mean that he wouldn’t be buying as much video equipment and that could have negatively affected John’s income and/or his status with his employer.
2. John Carpenter could’ve gone out catting around without Bob, but John was neither famous nor good looking. By himself he wouldn’t have been able to attract the type of woman that Bob could attract.
3. Bob and John were not just buddies who picked up girls together, they were BFFs. Bob cutting it off with him could’ve upset John on that level
4. Supposedly, John was bisexual. Maybe he was interested in being more than friends or friends with benefits with Bob and Bob said no. That could have instigated a crime of passion.
5. Bob and John weren’t just ladies men. They were sex addicts. If you’re an addict and your buddy who helps provide you with your fix tells you he’s not going to continue doing that, you could get angry enough or desperate enough to kill him.
To me # 5 is the biggest factor - Bob wasn’t going to be facilitating John’s addiction anymore. Addicts generally don’t take kindly to people who refuse to facilitate their addiction.
Let’s say they’re meth addicts instead of sex addicts. One of them has access to a supply of high quality meth. The other doesn’t and the other doesn’t know anyone else who does have access to high quality meth. When the one who has access to the high quality meth goes to rehab, gets clean, and doesn’t have anything to do with meth anymore, that cuts off the other guy’s access to the high quality meth. The other guy, who doesn’t want to quit using meth can still get and use, but he will have to settle for lower quality. That very well could be a motive for murder.
I don’t know for sure who killed Bob Crane. John Carpenter was brought to trial twice and was never convicted. I still suspect that he was the murderer, but I could be wrong.
Whoever it was was angry. I’ve seen color photos of the crime scene. I wish I hadn’t. It was very bloody and gruesome.
There are much easier ways to kill a sleeping man than standing over him on the bed and repeatedly swinging a camera tripod to beat him in the head until he dies. Because of the obvious passion involved, I guess it could’ve been the husband or boyfriend of one of the women Bob had sex with. But it still could’ve been John Carpenter. He could’ve been angry enough.
The fact is that the Scottsdale Police did not do a good job with the investigation. It’s just going to go down as unsolved.
@@cmm2145 what about the wire cord gag tied around Bob's head?
@@juststeve7665 - I know it was there. There could be more than 1 explanation. 1. Auto-erotic asphyxia. Instead of being asleep, he could’ve been unconscious. I think this theory is unlikely. 2. The killer could’ve strangled him with it long enough to make him unconscious so that he wouldn’t scream or try to fight off the attacker. 3. The killer could’ve intended to use the cord to kill by strangulation and found some kind of difficulty with that, so decided to bludgeon Bob over the head with a camera tripod.
I’m pretty sure that the only one who knows why the electrical cord was wrapped around Bob’s neck is the killer.
Very astute observation which makes sense.
TURN THE MUSIC DOWN !
Different transitions in life are challenging but there will be another side to this. Thank you for continuing to be honest and share. I think you’re a storyteller, and stories change as life changes. ❤
Cut the irritating music.
yes please. First and last time I am watching this guy's video. I can't hear a thing he is saying.
Agree...music is much too loud.
Must say I agree, it's distracting, too loud a strange choice too. Not trying to be nasty!
@@thisisme3238 Mitch has nothing to do with this.
Seriously! I tapped out in under a minute. Seeing as how homeboy hasn’t fixed it in 2 years that tells me he gives fuck-all about what his viewers have to say. I’m out of here, never to return…
Tone down the music!
Terrible music and too loud. Cut it.
I agree! Most annoying.
02.44 music drove me away.
Today's TH-cam Award for most obnoxious background music.
I agree. Completely distracting
I'm a big Bob Crane fan (I love his voice), but the background music here is way too loud and disruptive.
Well done. This documentary was well researched and equally well presented, and the narration was excellent.
Thanks for such a detailed video, and kudos for acknowledging the issue with music volume in the face of unnecessarily unpleasant criticism IMO. It takes time to learn editing and uploading techniques and compression rates etc can be tricky buggers! I for one would happily watch a reuploaded, improved version but I understand you are growing your channel and don’t want to lose your viewing figures. I’m subscribing and will look forward to future content. Very best of luck to you, keep at it 👏👍
Thanks for the kind words and being so understanding, we may consider doing a re-upload sometime in the future once the channel has more subs and is getting regular views. But for now its been too successful for us to pull the rug out, again thank you for understanding and hope you enjoy all the upcoming content!
@@MirrorMindYT Was it suicide?
In the mid- '70's, I was working at a department store in upstate N.Y. I was standing on a ladder adjusting a display fixture near the ceiling. The elevator doors opened, and out came a cameraman, walking backwards, followed by Bob Crane, flanked by two beautiful women. I believe that Crane had his arms around the womens' shoulders. The procession, the backwards- walking cameraman who was filming, Crane and the two women, proceeded from the elevator to the store lobby, and then out the front doors of the store. All of the store employees began to chatter and gossip.
Wow,, guess it wasn't very discreet!
Must have been Carpenter filming an intro for one of their movies?
What store name
I remember when Bob was murdered-That was rather unfortunate-Evidently,the authorities still don't know who the primary suspect is-Thanks for posting.
I saw uncensored crime scene photos of his murder. Whoever killed him was totally enraged at him...this was not some random crime...he was literally beaten to a pulp. 😒
Carpenter murdered him; look up the HBI documentary, " Tge Murder of Bob Crane".
I saw them too. It was beyond overkill.
it had to be someone he knew, since there was no forced entry. I still think it was John Carpenter, who has since died
@@michaelsix9684 ...agreed. This murder was personal. Someone was really pissed at him. 🤔
Had to be John who was pissed that Bob didn't want to be around him anymore. John lost his shit and saw no future in not being around Bob anymore.
It was such a great show. Bob Crane was so appealing. The generals and gestapo were so hilarious! And Schultz was a lovebug. I still watch it and laugh hard.
Well done and very respectful, in spite of the prominent sordid element of this tragic case.
THE MUSIC TAKES AWAY THE DRAMA OF HIS DEATH/MURDER.
@James Sullivanoh so you’ve never criticised or made a complaint to make things better nobhead? How about if you didn’t agree you just stfu? Seems ok for you to have a grip and not others.
- I still remember laying on the living room floor watching Hogan's Hero's on our color TV. , Just weird finding this out about Bob Crane all these years later.
As someone who had been in a relationship with a sex addict, it’s a difficult addiction to understand. This was very easy to relate to and informative.
Wow, thank you! I grew up watching Hogan's Heros on re-run in the 80's. Sounds like he engaged in some legal, consenting, adult activity. Today it wouldn't be looked down upon. He was a great actor. I encourage everyone to enjoy Hogan's Heros whenever possible. Bravo! Well done!
He would film having sex with women who didn't know they were being filmed so that's not what I would call " consensual" .
He was a bit of a prick obviously and messed with the wrong women whos boyfriend or husband was not happy .
Bob Crane's daughters looked exactly like him. Scotty too. His oldest son looked like his mum.
WELL CRANE. FAMILY. WE HOPE. U CATCH. THE. KILLER AND. HE SHOULD. FRY. FOR WHAT. HE DONE...... THAT. WZ MEAN AND CRUEL.
Peggy peggy, I thought the exact same thing!
Thank-you! I've always wondered what happened. First time I've visited your site. Keep it up.
very well done....as someone who grew up watching Hogan's heroes you gave us Information while at the same time, giving him Dignity....I believe his grave has been featured on a Video youtube..Hollywood graves / and Ingrid is buried next to him
WELL. I. NEVER. DID. LIKE HOGANS HEROES. THAT. MUCH IT. GOT. BORING. THEY. KEPT. SHOWING. RERUNS. SOOO YEAH.
RIP. BOB. CRANE THIS SHOULD NEVER. HAPPEND TOO U. HE WILL BUREN IN HELL 4 WHAT HE. DONE. TOO U.😡😡😡😡😠😠😠.
Sex addiction is something people usually laugh or blow off. Like all addictions it hurts people around u. Men or women, old or young its a problem to those who have it. Also you have to remember most people who have it aren't rich and famous, thats a whole other set of problems that one has to think about. Well made video and done with the right attitude. Glad it wasn't exploitation which tooo many of these insights into famous people with problems are.
...you meant "exploitation"?
@@andyginterblues2961 yes. Fucking spell check
@@andyginterblues2961 It's well written besides the "little flaw" you just HAD TO point out...let it go, everyone knows what was meant!
Just remember that “sex addiction“ is still a hotly contested issue. Psychologists do not recognize this has a real addiction or mental health issue. There is a real tendency to demonize people who have high sex drives by just automatically calling it an addiction. The secondary issue is that I a lot of this took place in the 60s and early 70s during the sexual revolution. This was the first time that people were beginning to experiment with sex and sexuality in a more open way and there were plenty of more conservative people who were not happy with that. I’m just saying that context is important to understanding the issue.
I can’t help but picture colonel Klink yelling “Hoooogan”! the whole way through this video.
I keep hearing “I know nossing”
I never knew Bob Crane was on the Twilight Zone, so had to go look it up. It was actually an uncredited bit, he did the radio announcer voice in the episode named "Static" about an old man who uses an old radio to listen to programs from the 1930's and 40's. So he never had any screen time, which I"d have recognized him, and which is why I never knew he was on the show.
Well he did later interview Rod Serling on a radio show and I suppose Rod Serling must have been impressed by Bob Crane, because he then cast Bob Crane in an episode of his other paranormal show Night Gallery.
I remember this when I was a kid, at the time I thought it was so spooky the killer had not been caught...as an adult I think it was Carpenter. I saw the movie of his life, however true it was- it was fascinating and ultimately sad.
Well done!! Thank you for posting!!
The music?? Just cannot watch anymore
Difficult to hear what you’re saying with that loud music I don’t know why you had that music playing. I know Bob Crane was killed by his friend who hung onto him but he was never convicted or arrested. If you make another video keep the music out of it.
Now I can’t focus on his voice and only hear the music!!
@@johnspartan852
😂😂
Music to loud
Actually, John Carpenter WAS arrested by Scottsdale PD in 1990, he Was put on trial, but Carpenters attorney managed to get the jury confused about the " validity " of the DNA evidence, & the jury acquitted Carpenter of the murder; one juror later said, " if they could've identified that little strip of blood on the door panel of the rental car as ' Cranes, we would've found him guilty, but they couldn't ". Crane's family, like myself, believe Carpenter got away with murder.
@@thomasharrison3126
He definitely got away with murder and they didn’t have the same DNA expertise they do now and Carpenter is probably dead so even if they took the evidence and did familial DNA and found out it was him it would be too late. That is not Justice for Bob Crane and his family .
He sounds like a nice guy with an addiction. An addiction that in today's time could have been treated. And there's no denying he was a funny and talented actor. It's a shame that his murder remains unsolved and that he never got the help he needed.
THAT. WZ. PURE. HELL HE WENT. THROUGH. OMG HOW AWAFUL 😥😥😥
Not unsolved, John Carpenter murdered him; see the " The Murder of Bob Crane", an HBO documentary, it explains it all.
Guy liked to have lots of sex, that's for sure. Don't know if it classifies as an addiction, though I believe that if you're married you shouldn't be getting any strange...
Hollywood dumped Bob Crane after H.Heroes, and he was struggling to find work and keep his career alive, very sad end for talented actor
@@thomasharrison3126 it's still classed as unsolved Carpenter was acquitted it's no different to OJ Simpson most believe he did it but the murders will always be classed as unsolved because he was acquitted
At the time of his death, Bob was working on a planned cable-TV series on various topics. I was supposed to be interviewed for it, but was pushed out by others who worked at the same place I did, without my knowledge. A few weeks after this, or maybe a month later, he was murdered - so the program was never finished or shown.
Damn never knew this I watch Hogan’s heroes every Saturday on Sundance 🤦🏼♂️ I’m only 29 but really enjoy the show 🙏🏼
I used to watch it after school back when I was a kid, now it's on MeTV at 9 and 9:30 every weeknight.
@@dx1450 yeah & it plays all day on Saturdays on Sundance TV I’m young but I enjoy the Andy Griffith show & Hogan’s heroes not a big fan of mash & the others but those two I can watch all day
@@gawdszn302 I never liked mash when I was a kid (b. 1980), but working at a nightclub in the mid 00s, and getting home after 3am, MASH was one of the few things on (it’s been said it’s on at all times, somewhere in the world, which I believe). I got so hooked I bought the box set, which allows you to watch without the laugh track - totally different show! - and watched from s1e1 to the finale, which is a lot of episodes, but without commercials are only 22m. Try it if you can find it.
@@jonathannagel7427 yeah like my dad & older people enjoy mash & Andy Griffith show which that’s my fav old time show of all time tbh it plays almost all day on weekdays I even bought amazon prime to watch it on prime lol 😂..but yeah MASH is a very popular show I’ll check it out
@@gawdszn302 Because my parents were a doctor and nurse, I figured it was way more medical than it actually is, maybe something like House during wartime, and the mellow song, “suicide is painless,” didn’t suggest comedy to me back then. Check out a version of that with words sometime.
(Also interesting is the song from Cheers: the second verse involves gender reassignment or transvestism)
Loose the music. The content speaks for itself.
They couldn't make it louder? Geez.
The music is already loose.
The presenter is lame. I mean that in the kindest way!
yes, once you are aware of the music, it is very distracting. Kindly suggesting that your content will be greatly improved without the background music.
@USAF 8791 its hilarious how many people on the internet do this. Its not that hard of a word to spell. They must have all gone to the same school
Another good video RUINED by loud, obnoxious music!! Turn it down!!!
Wow! Watching this video on the 43rd anniversary of his death. I remember my mom and I missed the show. We saw the posters on the doors of the theater telling us the show was canceled.
Disney was no ' boy scout ' either.
After I listened to this documentary I subscribed because this documentary was easy to follow, informative and well researched on the subject. I also like the narrator, easy to listen to voice. Most of the channels have a narrator who's voice is annoying as well as background music overrides the narrator and does not even follow any action being described. Therefore, making the documentary more annoying. This documentary can ease up on the background music to. I am sure this channel will make their videos better for their audience. Thank You and God Bless!
I feel sorry for Crane's family. I wish he had gotten help for his addiction.
Sounds like he had all the help he could get... "The generosity of women never ceases to amaze me".
@@skandababy that didn't help since it's equal to having your drug dealer helping you by providing you with the substance. No one was stopping him from this addiction, they just kept feeding him his addiction until he struck a chord with enemies. It seems he was too deep into his addiction to be self-aware of the consequence it had on his life.
@@dimensionalmagic Sorry, I ended my subscription to that kind of enabling, finger pointing bullshit.
Bob was using one of his "home videos" to blackmail the wrong person.
Cut the music. Too loud and not needed.
Well done! You have earned my subscription with this home run, sir 👍🏻
Wow, I never knew he married Frau Hilda. I still like the show even though his personal life was bizarre.
The story goes that when John Carpenter flew back to Los Angeles on the night of Crane's murder he stayed at Richard Dawson's house when police finally contacted him. Apparently, he wasn't shaken at all when he was told the news which made investigators very suspicious of him. Years later when Dawson was questioned about Carpenter coming to his home he apparently became very defensive and wouldn't discuss it.
The Scottsdale PD should have given the investigation to Phoenix PD homicide
Bob Crane was hosting miss nude pageants in the late 70s. There was an underground newspaper going around where I lived and the advertisement was on it with him as the MC of the show.
Bob Crane sure was no saint
Neither was the nude ladys that attended.
Seems so exciting.....what a bunch of fun he had !!!!!
Interesting
I actually believe that theory that he was killed by the boyfriend or husband or one of the women that he was with
I believe he was killed by a husband, boyfriend or brother of one of the girls he was messing with. They found out about it,made the girl tell them Crane's address,then went over there and killed him. They must have had one hell of a temper to kill him like that. RIP.
I loved Bob Crane....I really believe John Carpenter killed him. A gut feeling but I think it is pretty obvious. The police just couldn't put forth a solid case.
His comedic talent was undeniable. I lean toward agreeing that Carpenter was responsible, the entire investigation was way too much for a small town police department to handle and they dropped the ball hard, so that's likely a big reason we'll never truly know what happened. Thanks for watching!
Because they were shoddy stupid police! Most in that era were crooked!
@@sdeee3842 spot on
The Key Stone cops new more about a murder investigation than the Scottsdale police did in 1978. They had John Carpenter by the balls because they had a piece of Crane's brains found in the cab he took to the airport the morning after the murder. Problem is they lost it. That let Carpenter walk.
knew not new.
Turn UP the music, we can still hear you! 🤫😉
Turn the music off completely.
Good review, though the audio could use a better mix, I found the music distractingly loud.
Great video, it’s nice to see a subject not widely covered. I remember my sister used to watch Hogan’s Heroes but I never quite got the humor, even now it seems like an odd plot.
I agree about the distracting music, it seems to compete with your voice in volume and is too repetitive.
I still found this very interesting and enjoyed the watch.
Thanks for posting this, the story is worth telling despite the tragedy. I appreciate your even-keel and honest approach. And your music is OK, but it's a little loud and sometimes drowns-out your voice.
Bob Crane led a double life.
I had a grandfather like that..
No shit Captain Obvious
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock put a sock in it.
Really informative and well done content. I actually read some of the comments and hate to sound like a broken record, but the music is terrible. No other way to describe it. It in no way fits the narrative and is WAY too loud. Hopefully you can learn from this for future videos because the underlying talent is there.
Thanks a lot. I hadn’t noticed how loud the music was until I saw your comment and now it’s driving me crazy.
Yes, on another video, it's on his gravestone, June, '78. My apologies. RIP to Bob Crane.
Auto Focus was a pretty good movie about Crane....his life and death. Willem Dafoe does a great job playing Carpy.
So I am assuming they wanted to make a porn movie, cos thats about the gist of this pervert's life.
Especially since after now seeing his picture and what he looked like in real life
I have seen Auto Focus. IMO, it was based too closely on Robert (Zodiac) Greysmith's book, "The Murder of Bob Crane" which was published one year before Carpenter's trial.
@@Tina-Marie-iz8zy Watch the film before making a judgement like that. It's excellent.
@@KlausBahnhof I've seen the doco on his life and death and he was just a pervert. No one should be making a movie out of a perverts life, some stupid people will think its ok to be one.
The Body Shop, a nude strip club, recently closed in San Diego. When we interviewed some of the employees there a few mentioned that Bob Crane used to be a regular there with his own table. They said the most of the dancers of the time knew him very well with a few select dancers having a relationship with him outside the club.
That's not the Body Shop I know
The murder took place about 25 yards away from where I was sleeping that night in another building in the Winfield Apartment complex on Chaparral Road in Scottsdale, AZ. The next morning on my way to the pool, as the police were cordoning off the crime scene, they spotted me and wanted to know who I was and what I was doing there. That was pretty scary, as I had no idea what was going on. I did happen to notice Crane's scantily clad co-star milling around with the police.
As I found out Crane's apartment was leased by the Windmill Comedy Club for use by their featured guest star. That made sense, because a couple of months before I found myself floating around in the complex' swimming pool with the Joker himself, Caesar Romero, who was the the featured guest star at the Windmill Comedy Club at that time.
We all know that that guy Carpenter did it and sure wish justice had been administered swiftly to him. Bob Crane was a great actor, but most of all a great guy! RIP Bob!
Did you get a peek at his XXX films?
Mr.Crane had been doing "Beginner's Luck" at the Windmill theatre (I don't know how long it was running for)--curious if you had ever seen Mr. Crane while he was there--there was also a story that his soon to be ex-wife (Patty Olson) had visited just a few days before his death--and also curious where he took his meals--were there restaurants in the area where the cast ate while in Scotsdale?
Who is Carpenter?
Great story!
I saw the movie Auto Focus about Bob Crane. It starred Greg Kinnear and Willem Dafoe. It was pretty good.
Arrgh, that piano: does that play throughout the entire video!?
Good effoirt and good research. The music must be changed howver
Thx for sharing😊
I'm addicted to watching Hogan's Heroes. When I was a kid back in the 1970s, I couldn't stop laughing at it on TV. But now I have the full DVD collection of it, and still can't stop laughing at it. Plus TV isn't as good as it used to be either, and I watch DVDs more than anything else. But it's a terrible shame that the mystery of Bob Crane's death will never be fully solved. He should have fully locked the door of the apartment he was staying in at the time while he was sleeping. It was a shame that a movie based on the Hogan's Heroes series never got to be produced too.
It certainly did not reach the levels of popularity enjoyed by McHALES NAVY--another popular military sitcom
Me to Malcom . My fav episode of hogans heroes which I know them all happens to be the one when carter has Indian background and uses the arrow. . Classic
@Malcolm the door wasn't locked? Bob could have let the person in because he knew him/her...
@@juststeve7665 Not unsolved, John Carpenter murdered him; watch the HBO documentary, " The Murder of Bob Crane ", it explains it all.
Not unsolved, John Carpenter murdered Bob Crane. Watch the HBO documentary, " The Murder of Bob Crane", it explains it all.
Really nice job. I learned things I didn't know before. But the music got old.
I read your explanation after posting my comment about the music. Sorry, I didn't realize that horse was dead, lol. It's a very good video and the only thing that would stop me watching more is if you didn't see the problem. I can see that you spent a lot of time writing and recording the narration and the photos are great. Thank you. I'm looking forward to checking out your other stuff. I listened to another vid about this story, which brought me here and yours is so much better. I hope you channel continues to do well. Good luck.
I love this show..,. still watch all the returns
He was a great actor its sad he had a sex problem but its horrific that his murder is unsolved. This talented actor died to young and his family deserve justice.
not that good, never liked him
I haven't thought of about that in years. He seemed so clean cut. 🤔
Sad really that sex addiction probably played a role in his death. He was a good actor never the less.
He was a freak.
Good video - hideous overbearing music.
Thank you!
I have heard a few rumors over the Years.. This video seems to be well researched and seems to provide about as much info as is possible to come up with ..
he was screwing around with the wrong lady. that's what my 8ball is telling me.
i used to love hogans heros as a kid.
After reading all the facts (years ago) I could never watch Hogan's Heroes again.
I remember when all this went down. We were nonplussed and became cynical about celebrities' clean roles on TV and in movies.
So many of the men were divorcing their wives of 22-25 years and the mother of their children, only to marry a young actress they recently co-starred with in some movie. Shameful!
unfortunately many young women were willing to do anything with well known actors hopeing for fame themselves, never mind the wife and kids
You can't just blame the men. They couldn't do it if the women weren't so willing. It takes 2
@@chuckstith838 exactly what I was saying,
You get an A+ for using 'nonplussed' in a sentence.
I love the narrator for these videos. When you said he met his friend John Carpenter, I said, Oh wow, and you said, No, not that one, it was pretty funny! These are highly entertaining and I could listen to your voice all day.
That last bit on the DNA just thickens the plot all that much more
I met Bob Crane in Akron Ohio of all places at the now defunct Derby Downs. He was there for the all American soap box derby
championship. I was in the boy scouts and was part of the flag raising ceremony. I saw him walking around curving things out and approached. I said hey you're Bob Crane right? He was wearing a long coat, jeans, sneakers and sun glasses. He says to you are the first to recognize me. We talked for about a half hour I told him what I was doing with the flag thing and we talked about Hogan's Heroes and what he was working on currently. Then he took off his sun glasses and gave me his autograph. I think it was a year later he was murdered. In was sad for him and his family.
Here's a case that's best left to sleep. When a murdered person has so many enemies that the police hardly know where to start, when the person has ruined the lives of scores, when the activity that led to the murder can't be properly disclosed, this is an indication that anyone actually accused would be picked from a jelly bean jar and would likely be no more guilty than the next. I always like the question: can you think of anyone who would want Mr. Crane dead? If the answers are nearly countless, it's hopeless.
As a retired criminal investigator, I can say that, in reality, you don't go after a list of people who wanted the person dead, you go where the Evidence leads you, & in this case, it All went back to Carpenter.
Can I suggest you remove backing music from your vids. Personally, I find them off-putting and distracting. I also struggle to hear what's being said because of background noise. For me, the music makes listening, very difficult.
The backround music is very annoying!
THE BACKGROUND MUSIC IS TOO LOUD AND IT'S HARD TO HEAR THE COMMENTARY!
You drop the background piano noise. Because it drowns out the speaker.
Lol, I will always think of him as "Pepper" or whatever his name was in the 1975 Disney film, *Gus.*
I remember this hitting the news in Phoenix when this happened.
Thank you for sharing this video.
It's a shame that Crane never found another sitcom that was as good as Hogan's Heroes. Being a fan of his, I wanted to watch Superdad, but it is not available on Disney plus.
Yeah, its not on there. I looked when I was making the video hoping to get some clips but no luck.
That was the first movie I ever saw in a theater! I ended up buying it years ago on vhs, cute movie.
It's a shame that Bob Crane was a pervert and a daviant.
Crane wasn't a great actor...But he would have made a great game show host...
@@mikepatrick5909 You're probably right on both counts. I've never listened to any of his old radio shows, but if he was as good at being off the cuff and unscripted as people say, he might have made a good talk show host as well. People can, however, become good actors. I re-watched Top Gun a few weeks ago for the first time in well over a decade. Tom Cruise's acting in that role was horrendous, but, over the years, he's become a pretty good actor (or is it all a plot by Xenu?).
I ALMOST thought Bill Withers' "Lean On ME" was going to break-out there for a moment.
sad he had to struggle after Hogan's Heroes, talented and likeable man
Excellent commentary (as mentioned earlier), Thanks for making & posting these videos.
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Thank you for watching!
Crane would fit right in at today's Disney.
I always wanted to know what happened to Bob Crane. After seeing that movie a few years back. Very Sad.