Couple notes: R3F VRM is stronger then it looks; actually uses better mosfets then R2E, using the same ones as GTX 580 DCU:II DFI -> no slow mode, had one at some point. Also really unreliable, easy to brick bios, hard to find bioses Bloodrage -> PCIe mod needed (128 PCIe max after mod) EX58 series -> PCIe mod needed (128 PCIe max after mod)
@@Ground15 Heh, well it helps more than if you happen to have an amazing GPU with a shitty VRM.. My old 970 is a ridiculously high ASIC quality, so i can do over 1600MHz on stock volts...but the VRM is 6-phase and gets HOT if i run above 1491...which is a shame. Better VRM would let me crank the volts and handle more current! Stuck at 1.212V! It is a Zotac card that's smaller than most though. I did get the 580 to over 1GHz core clock without even trying as well so i likely got a good chip too.
Rampage 3 - GA-X58A-OC - MSI Big Bang and EVGA 4 Way Sli boards are top. My Msi Big bang is still working. BTW by modding bios you guys can use kingston a2000 nvme on these boards, writing like 1900 and reading 1600..
I have a sabertooth x58 running 6x 4GB DDR3-1866 and an intel Xeon x5650 OC to 4.2ghz on a hyper 212 black and GTX 970 and its rock solid, has been for years and years and years.
I just got the same boardwith a 960. In the manual, it states that XMP/1600 might not work with all slots populated. So, I did 3 sets of benches with userbenchmark, geekbench and cpu-z. Minimal difference between 3 x4, 4x4 and 6x4. Ram stayed at 1600. I might try some 8 gb sticks of 1866 or even faster..... but doubt it would be worth it. I like to tinker, but do have 3 Ryzen PC's, 3700x, 5800x and 5950x, which, of course, blow away the x58 cpu's. But, they don't overclock as well. I built my first X58 rig, with a P6T and 920, in 2010. Must have bent some pins, so could never run triple channel memory...had 4x2 gb that were recognized and worked. Double channel as the closest two slots to the cpu were dead. Everything else worked fine. 6 or so years later when I went to a Xeon x5670. Tried to fix the pins with no success. Was able to overclock it to about 4.1, less than competent OC'ers can get, but perhaps the bad pins were the problem. That PC is still working, but it has slowed way down. So, I got the Sabertooth. I just put an x5680 in it, and now will run some more benchmarks and try my hand at overclocking it.
I had a Rampage III Formula where the onboard sound died too! It was detected, but no output whatsoever and a crash when you tried to play sound! It also wasn't as good at overclocking as my way older Gigabyte EX58A! Exact same hardware the Gigabyte board will overclock further and at lower voltage..but it does have 16-phase CPU VRM and the ASUS only had 8... My old Gigabyte UD7 was an amazing board too, v1.0 that had 24 CPU power phases!
Had a lot fun messing around with my z170m pro4 with bclk. I went back to my GA-x58-ud3 and it's crazy how far you can push those X5670 Xeons on water.
x58 mobo''s officially supports a max of 24gb of ram. But for some strange reason, it actually can support 48gb of ram. I have the "Asus P6T" and i have installed 48gb of ram on it.
Now that i have a Blood Rage i can add that it does require a PCIE clock mod via moving a resistor and also locked uncore multi with X series xeons for whatever reason. other than that it clocks pretty well.
Great round up. I had a rampage 3 gene and it was awful for me. The rampage 3 extreme was much better. My favorite is the x58a oc though. I have not tried a r3e black as they are hard to find. The SR-2 is the real mother of boards though 😉 that one need a whole video to itself I think. Would be really interesting.
@@taggxoc I have the formula III and it’s a nice board but the ATX case stresses me out and I’d like to downsize. I don’t do anything else outside of air overclocking with a beefy air cooler and these boards are becoming just a time capsule for XP/Win 7 at this point
@Isa Effects Gigabyte X58A-OC Sells for 150-250 USD and Asus Rampage 3 Black consistently sells for 200-300USD. For both boards for £250 it is a good deal , so? the boards may be old and useless but there extremely rare and valuable to overclockers. If your not serious about this hobby simply avoid these boards , but they are both the boards used for top scores
the gigabyte ud7 and the ud9 are x58 holy grail motherboard to lol / they overclock extremely well and very stable to there is 4 holy motherboard for x58 but the king of 1366 platform is the evga sr 2 classified
Wouldn't call the UD7 a holy grail, it's decent for sure, but not super special, UD9 maybe because of the 2core bios, unfortunately don't have one personally... SR-2 is technically not x58 and allso deserves a video on it's own (which will deffinetly happen) :)
@@taggxoc i own a ud7 and ud5 and rampage II extreme and a evga sr2 classified and on the ud7 ive have had a x5675 at 5ghz on air at 1.5v and 1600 speed ram and i think it could go more but my ud7 is my every computer that i use every day but i keep it at 4.6 all the time with 1600 speed on ram
Never had one, but just by looking at it i can say the VRM is underwhelming, allso MSI BIOS is something you have to get used to, but besides that it should be OK for ambient.
I bought myself one for dirty cheap and now I'm using it with a stock i7-980x and GTX 480 SLi. With my cooling I could probably oc it but X58 is so rare I would like to keep it for years. Thx for your answer tho
Best Mobo is EVGA classified sli. Never had crash on that boards , for years. I literally melted few CPUs under water 1.6V and boards still work. 4.6ghz with classified. Asus sabertooth is garbage it can Oc but always after few hours it can crash, basically useless oc above 200mhz , I have 2 of them with dead audio and coil whine that appeared after few years of Oc ( x79 sabertooth is a lot better). I will say again I was never interested in 3min benchmark and validation , I was using mobos for folding and mining 24/7 365days per year. Dfi garbage , MSI garbage , that Clevo d900 is actually laptop and it was gem. Gigabyte second gen and Asus boards are decent buy for people who want 4.2gh Oc on Air for everyday.
Wish I'd seen your post. I just got my third X58 board after my P6T has tired --built it in 2010.... got a Gigabyte UD3R a few years ago, never added a Xeon to it, but was about to, when I stupidly tried to install the cpu backwards. Bent a bunch of pins which may have fried the VRM's or something. Tried to bend them back, but no luck. So I got the Sabretooth for a good price. Benched it with the 960 it came with, stock. It was OK, but I just added an x5680 and was about to try to overclock it...hmmmm
That's not the point of this Video... It's about cometitive overclocking, for daily EVGA is just fine but it's missing settings necessary to max out certain CPUs.
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Couple notes:
R3F VRM is stronger then it looks; actually uses better mosfets then R2E, using the same ones as GTX 580 DCU:II
DFI -> no slow mode, had one at some point. Also really unreliable, easy to brick bios, hard to find bioses
Bloodrage -> PCIe mod needed (128 PCIe max after mod)
EX58 series -> PCIe mod needed (128 PCIe max after mod)
In that case i need to check the Sabertooth, if it uses same fets as r3f it might be good :)
Interesting, i have the GTX 580 DCU:II boxed, so its a decent clocking card then?
@@ChaosHusky they are generally solid cards, but just having a good VRM isn't everything off course since you still need good core and good mem.
@@Ground15 Heh, well it helps more than if you happen to have an amazing GPU with a shitty VRM.. My old 970 is a ridiculously high ASIC quality, so i can do over 1600MHz on stock volts...but the VRM is 6-phase and gets HOT if i run above 1491...which is a shame. Better VRM would let me crank the volts and handle more current! Stuck at 1.212V! It is a Zotac card that's smaller than most though. I did get the 580 to over 1GHz core clock without even trying as well so i likely got a good chip too.
Bloodrage BIOS is shit, the voltages are all over the place and not often what you set.
You are a saint. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world.
Rampage 3 - GA-X58A-OC - MSI Big Bang and EVGA 4 Way Sli boards are top. My Msi Big bang is still working. BTW by modding bios you guys can use kingston a2000 nvme on these boards, writing like 1900 and reading 1600..
This definitely helps those of us shopping for x58 boards avoid something that may look like a deal. Really appreciate it man.
5:40 this is the best x58 motherboard forever , and most beatiful
I was lucky to buy the "Asus Ramapage Extreme III" (Instead of version II) for just under 80 Dollars
@@opoxious1592 daaaaamn , 80 dollars ? This is Crazy for this board , the price average is under 250
@@Element_FBG Yeah i know.
It's unbelievable
I have a sabertooth x58 running 6x 4GB DDR3-1866 and an intel Xeon x5650 OC to 4.2ghz on a hyper 212 black and GTX 970 and its rock solid, has been for years and years and years.
I just got the same boardwith a 960. In the manual, it states that XMP/1600 might not work with all slots populated. So, I did 3 sets of benches with userbenchmark, geekbench and cpu-z. Minimal difference between 3 x4, 4x4 and 6x4. Ram stayed at 1600. I might try some 8 gb sticks of 1866 or even faster..... but doubt it would be worth it. I like to tinker, but do have 3 Ryzen PC's, 3700x, 5800x and 5950x, which, of course, blow away the x58 cpu's. But, they don't overclock as well.
I built my first X58 rig, with a P6T and 920, in 2010. Must have bent some pins, so could never run triple channel memory...had 4x2 gb that were recognized and worked. Double channel as the closest two slots to the cpu were dead. Everything else worked fine. 6 or so years later when I went to a Xeon x5670. Tried to fix the pins with no success. Was able to overclock it to about 4.1, less than competent OC'ers can get, but perhaps the bad pins were the problem. That PC is still working, but it has slowed way down.
So, I got the Sabertooth. I just put an x5680 in it, and now will run some more benchmarks and try my hand at overclocking it.
I had a Rampage III Formula where the onboard sound died too! It was detected, but no output whatsoever and a crash when you tried to play sound! It also wasn't as good at overclocking as my way older Gigabyte EX58A! Exact same hardware the Gigabyte board will overclock further and at lower voltage..but it does have 16-phase CPU VRM and the ASUS only had 8... My old Gigabyte UD7 was an amazing board too, v1.0 that had 24 CPU power phases!
P6X58D-E with X5675 @ 4.5GHz on my 2nd rig. Truly a great board.
Had a lot fun messing around with my z170m pro4 with bclk. I went back to my GA-x58-ud3 and it's crazy how far you can push those X5670 Xeons on water.
So what is your highest OC and that you are running 24/7 in that 5670? Can you share some settings info?
the issue with with classified and xeons is fixed with a hardmod at the chipset, 2 empty resister pad need to be shorted.
Not the issue i meant, you can't correctly set uncore multis with xeons, it's BIOS issue :(
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Thanks for the roundup. The Bloodrage needs a hard mod to get PCIE over 103. I have one and it is a very cool board indeed.
x58 mobo''s officially supports a max of 24gb of ram.
But for some strange reason, it actually can support 48gb of ram.
I have the "Asus P6T" and i have installed 48gb of ram on it.
Ram controller is in CPU. If CPU supports it will run. Also ECC ram ( non Registered ofc )
@@nikolakarovic5964 Thank you, for replying
My P6T supports 48GB ram
@@sirfairplay9153 When you have a Xeon cpu, it can even supports up to 96GB ram
I use a xeon and guessed eec ram would increase memory size capability@@opoxious1592
Now that i have a Blood Rage i can add that it does require a PCIE clock mod via moving a resistor and also locked uncore multi with X series xeons for whatever reason. other than that it clocks pretty well.
Great round up. I had a rampage 3 gene and it was awful for me. The rampage 3 extreme was much better. My favorite is the x58a oc though. I have not tried a r3e black as they are hard to find.
The SR-2 is the real mother of boards though 😉 that one need a whole video to itself I think. Would be really interesting.
Personally r3gene wasn't terrible, but didn't manage to get 6G multicore out of it due to being limited to 1,675Vcore due to VRM triggering OCP...
nice video, thanks for the efforts!
X58 is the best!
Great video. I wasn't around when x58 was current so they're all new to me.
thanks
What’s your opinion on the MATX boards for casual overclocking?
For air OC the genes are fine, but max i was able to archive on LN2 was about 250MHz lower (r3extreme vs. r3gene)
@@taggxoc I have the formula III and it’s a nice board but the ATX case stresses me out and I’d like to downsize. I don’t do anything else outside of air overclocking with a beefy air cooler and these boards are becoming just a time capsule for XP/Win 7 at this point
R3BE or X58A-OC for me best 250 Euro I've personally spent on X58.
2 of my R3E behave , 1 drops dimms sometimes.
@Isa Effects I don't think you understand how much these boards actually sell for. They are the best of the best and are not trash.
@Isa Effects Gigabyte X58A-OC Sells for 150-250 USD and Asus Rampage 3 Black consistently sells for 200-300USD. For both boards for £250 it is a good deal , so? the boards may be old and useless but there extremely rare and valuable to overclockers. If your not serious about this hobby simply avoid these boards , but they are both the boards used for top scores
@Isa Effects $250 for those boards are reasonable. Literally the best x58 boards for cpu overclocking
If someone can dig up the XOC BIOS for the UD9 I'll do some testing, on retail BIOS it seemed pretty trash when I tried it with Bloomfield.
I think ground has it, might be wrong though...
the gigabyte ud7 and the ud9 are x58 holy grail motherboard to lol / they overclock extremely well and very stable to
there is 4 holy motherboard for x58 but the king of 1366 platform is the evga sr 2 classified
Wouldn't call the UD7 a holy grail, it's decent for sure, but not super special, UD9 maybe because of the 2core bios, unfortunately don't have one personally...
SR-2 is technically not x58 and allso deserves a video on it's own (which will deffinetly happen) :)
@@taggxoc i own a ud7 and ud5 and rampage II extreme and a evga sr2 classified and on the ud7 ive have had a x5675 at 5ghz on air at 1.5v and 1600 speed ram and i think it could go more but my ud7 is my every computer that i use every day but i keep it at 4.6 all the time with 1600 speed on ram
the ud7 has a lot of settings that are nice for daily systems but kinda useless for xoc
I love the boomer audio mic cutting out
What is your opinion on x58 Eclipse from MSI?
Never had one, but just by looking at it i can say the VRM is underwhelming, allso MSI BIOS is something you have to get used to, but besides that it should be OK for ambient.
Low tier for sub 200mhz Oc .
I bought myself one for dirty cheap and now I'm using it with a stock i7-980x and GTX 480 SLi. With my cooling I could probably oc it but X58 is so rare I would like to keep it for years. Thx for your answer tho
@@paniecopan5653 4ghz no problem.
Best Mobo is EVGA classified sli. Never had crash on that boards , for years. I literally melted few CPUs under water 1.6V and boards still work. 4.6ghz with classified. Asus sabertooth is garbage it can Oc but always after few hours it can crash, basically useless oc above 200mhz , I have 2 of them with dead audio and coil whine that appeared after few years of Oc ( x79 sabertooth is a lot better). I will say again I was never interested in 3min benchmark and validation , I was using mobos for folding and mining 24/7 365days per year. Dfi garbage , MSI garbage , that Clevo d900 is actually laptop and it was gem. Gigabyte second gen and Asus boards are decent buy for people who want 4.2gh Oc on Air for everyday.
Wish I'd seen your post. I just got my third X58 board after my P6T has tired --built it in 2010.... got a Gigabyte UD3R a few years ago, never added a Xeon to it, but was about to, when I stupidly tried to install the cpu backwards. Bent a bunch of pins which may have fried the VRM's or something. Tried to bend them back, but no luck. So I got the Sabretooth for a good price. Benched it with the 960 it came with, stock. It was OK, but I just added an x5680 and was about to try to overclock it...hmmmm
Good video ideas, but maybe consider getting a better mic!
straight up said dont bother with evga... mine been going every day for almost 13 years with no issues. LMAO. ok bro.
That's not the point of this Video... It's about cometitive overclocking, for daily EVGA is just fine but it's missing settings necessary to max out certain CPUs.