The Daimler 250 V8 Is A British Muscle Car With Jaguar Luxury!
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When Jaguar boss, William Lyons confirmed the purchase of Daimler, some questioned the decision, but it turned out to be an ideal pairing; Daimler’s 2.5-litre aluminium V8 was paired with the Jaguar Mk2 saloon to create the 250 V8, a gentleman thug of a car with a lovely V8 burble and the luxury and comfort associated with a Jaguar. Upmarket interior trimmings and subtle styling tweaks in the form of the iconic ‘crinkly’ grille and number plate plinth created an entirely new flavour for the much-loved Jag. What’s it like to drive this rare British muscle car today? Phil found out!
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I have owned one of these for eleven years now, albeit the manual version with overdrive. It is simply a beautiful car to drive and an absolute pleasure to own.
David, I too have a manual w o/d, not many left!
Apparently only six manuals made it to Australia, so I am lucky to have one
I read the manual od box , makes it the best of the bunch.... Love to see a test of one....
My dad had a V8 250 Manual - I was 12 at the time but loved the car, though it did have a few gremlins and rust ! I think towards the end of the production they ditched the V8 engine, not because it wasnt good, but because it was expensive to make.
I've always liked the idea of the 250 V8 and Daimler version of the mk2.
Excellent presenter!
years ago I worked with a man whose wife worked for the Jaguar dealer in Melbourne. Her company car was Daimler 250 that had a Mercedes Benz engine in it. It was special collaboration between the two "Daimlers". I haven't been able to find out where it is hiding these days. Her replacement company car was an XJC 5.3.
My mate Brian has owned one of these since I first knew him, in 1974, when he also had a Series 1 XJ6. He sold that in favour of a Series 3, which he still drives today. All his best cars have been automatics, although he did once have a knockabout daily manual gearbox car, the make of which escapes me. He wouldn't like my polybushed and rigid engine mounted Peugeot TD !
My Dad had one, it was beautiful.
Great feature of a Beautiful and Desirable Car. ❤
This is one of Britain’s lesser known postwar V8s. There’s the Rover V8, the Triumph V8, Rolls Royce V8 and the Chrysler and Ford V8s used in Humbers, Gordon Keebles and the like.
The beautiful British Hemie-engine in a beautiful car.
Had a 1963 model, bought in 1968 second hand with 35000 miles on the clock. The handbook stated that it was supposedly to be run on 3 star petrol but at 50k it required a decoke. (For younger readers that meant taking the heads off and getting rid of the carbon build-up.) The mechanic who did it luckily gave me a fixed price before starting the job which ended up taking him a full week. (I can't imagine what his family lived on that week but it wouldn't have included steak!) The thing was though, he reckoned that that was the second time it had been done.
In some respects it was a nice car but I got rid of it in 1972 when the doors were showing signs of significant rot. For me, another case of nostalgia being best left in the past!
I thought a clock tells time not mileage.
Thanks for profiling the 250 V8, Phil Weeden! For years, I dismissed it as badge-engineered in the worst sense (minor styling differentiations from, in this situation, the Mark II Jaguar). But in learning more about these cars in the past few years, "badge engineering" simply doesn't apply here because its guts are where the reall engineering is present, and you and other reviewers consistently report, the BSA-engineered V8 and automatic simply make it a more genteel, gentlemanly car. Learning all this about the car has made me a bigger fan of the 250 V8 than the Mark II. Obviously, Jaguar is more world famous, and here in the US, any one of the few people owning a Daimler must frequently have to correct inquisitive onlookers that it is not a Mercedes product. Such a beautiful, beautiful car outside and in! (Incidentally, the Morse "Jaguar" was really a Daimler V8)
No it wasn't
Car was released as a 2.5Litre Saloon. V8 250 was in 1967 with the update in line with the 240 340 Jag etc
Id love to see a retro mod Daimler 250
Thanks for a most enjoyable video. The beauty of the car is undeniable, not diminished either by the passage of years.
In contrast, when I look at most modern cars I see a "blob", created by a computer using a "Me, too!" program.
Glad you enjoyed it!
At 5:27 to 5:35, why is the front mudguard a different shade of white to the rest of the car?
The sound of that V8 beautiful and just a much more refined car than the Mark 2 that V8 sound definitely a subdued sound and the XK6 makes a couple of top ten iconic engines ever made been mostly USA based they only mentione two American engines the Chevrolet small block and the Ford model T engines tge VW flat four and two Japanese engines the Honda B engine and the Toyota 22R engine which l have one in my Toyota Hilux 1997 so l am pleased to see it make the lists and the Jaguar XK is the only british engine to make the list
this was no Bank robbers getaway car! but it never was never intended to be, the car was about class, stately progress, the v8 sound and of course the inertia
I love my 1964 250 V8, such a beautiful car to drive and look at. Ok not the fastest, but then why would you want to rush when you have a car like this. But then, I have my 1965 S Type for that, a better handling car than the Mk2.
Sounds good. I’ve had both the 250 V8 and 3.8 mk2. I’d take the Jag because the Daimler felt a little under powered - maybe in a manual variety.
Well presented and narrated. Without the tryhard hyperbole that is so prevalent nowadays.
Don’t forget the SP250. I had one for a few years. So much classier than a Healey or MG.
Wow, that was a beautiful example. Had lots of money spent bybtge look of it.
A special example for sure! Kim Cairns Classics always have top cars in!
I was looking forward to this, and it didn't disappoint. One thing I have never asked about bench seats though, other than an extra cushion, how are they adjusted for short rsed drivers who struggle to see over the bonnet? Can they be adjusted??
They were split bench seats, each half being separately adjustable.
I seem to remember also that the steering wheel was adjustable, in and out, by unscrewing a knurled ring on the steering column.
The seats raise up automatically as you move them forward. Each seat is separately moveable. They just meet in the middle.
Beautiful.
The one car I have aspired to.
Beautiful car excellent video 🚗🚙🚘⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Not going to lie. So used to seeing them on wires, that video thumbnail first glance, thought it was a Mitsuoka for a fraction of a second 😂
Now *there's* an idea for a video...
Lovely 👍
If I had to choose a Mk 2 limousine: Either that or the big 3.8 l Jaguar .
Question;
When you say "Saloon", do you mean the same type of vehicle we in America 🇺🇸 can a "Sedan"????
Saloon in the US means bar, what are you referring it as with vehicles ?
What you'd call a "sedan" is what we call a saloon in the UK
Very interesting, I didn't know about this engine. Sometimes the XK engine was known to go bad after a 100000 miles. Was this engine better in this regard?
my 1969 one has just ticked over 200,000 miles. Did have a full rebuild at about 100,000 and a pair of reconditioned heads at about 170,000 ...
If looked after properly the XJ straight 6 will go forever. You need to remember that even though it was designed a year or two after the second world war, i.e. a bloody long time ago. It is one of the best pieces of engineering ever conceived. (in my obviously biased and not very humble opinion.) It was designed in the days when engines were designed to "use" oil. It needs checking and topping up regularly and failure to do so is the root of nearly all the issues, The harder you drive it the more oil it will bun, but keep it topped up and it will rarely let you down.
@@Silverhand290 Longevity, my father looked after our MK10. Over sized pistons, 3•8 litre, didn't use very much engine oil. A reliable car that he wore out, unobtainable brake parts and ageing.
How pleasurably different to learn about the Damlier.
Odd thought it was faster....still a cool car 👍
it's faster than the base 240, which in comparison is just straight up slow.
I believe when Autocar tested the 2.4 MK2 it could not make 100mph Jaguar took the car back and did some tuning to top 100mph, the 250 V8 could get to 110mph.
Nice video, thanks. The problem with the Daimler V8 really was the lack of power, they always sound like they are working hard just to keep up. If it had been a 3.5 litre or perhaps 4.0 litre, it would have been so much better and very likely wouldn't have been any more expensive to run, the engine was just too small for the size of the car.
Was a Sports Car engine, where you absolutely didn't need "4 litres" to push 900-odd kilos
Not a fan of the Borg Warner auto…had a Rover P6B, and the BW65 really knocked the performance from the 3.5 V8.
Nice car. I didn't know they ever existed. I suggest you get rid of the background music, it adds nothing. I took my headphones off thinking there was a funny ticking sound somewhere in the house!
Why is the engine capacity so small (for a V8) ?
there was a 4.5-litre version for the big Majestic Major saloon, but it wouldn't fit in the Mk2 shell. They did try it in a Mk10 and it outperformed the XJ 3.8
Its only 2.5 barely any slower to 60 than a 2.4 mk2 with a manual according to google
Mine was a little wheezey, not enough power. I should have has the 4.5liter version of the V8
Subtle muscle? I had a pale blue 68 thin bumper example. I wouldn't describe it as muscle though . A lovely smooth engine, yes, once you get them on eight cylinders, but muscle? I don't think so, especially compared to a 69 valiant 7.3 litre I had in Australia in the early 80s, that was a real tyre shredder. Now that was muscle, sadly only about 8mpg though!
Yeah, probably different class sectors your Jag and Val 😁
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Great car but a well tuned straight six running 3 carbs on the overun is a noise modern cars just cant do.Snapping and crackling like a angry beast .Having driven one all I did was keep dropping down a gear and the magic happens when you let the clutch out.The engine and modded exhaust in my case just made the most glorious sound.Put your foot back down and let it come back off the cams and it went like the proverbial of a shovel.No wonder the straight sixes were so revered by banger racers.
Muscle car it is NOT! The Daimler 2.5 V8 was a sweet little engine and was mated to the new Borg Warner Type 35 transmission which dulled its performance even more. I demonstrated the car at the 1962 Earls Court Motor Show where the Daimler Distributors were happy to have a new model to sell to their client base. Its 0-60 time was some 6 seconds slower than the Jaguar 3.8 version and thus it felt very lethargic in comparsion with its Jaguar stable mates. Regards JA Jaguar Experimental Department 1962-66
I drove two of these cars every day in the early to mid 1980s. I found them both to be an unparalleled combination of flaccid performance and excessive petrol consumption. The acceleration figures quoted are always those from the very early 4.55 ratio differential cars, and the top speed from the later 4.27, both at the expense of massive over-revving. I then had a 2.4 Mark 2 Jaguar, again, an everyday user, and found that to be a better car in every respect. The Jaguar was a manual with overdrive, which helped a lot. I think that the Daimler must have been a far better car with a manual gearbox, preferably with overdrive. Then, and only then, could it claim to be quicker than even a 2.4 litre Mark 2 Jaguar. The Daimler is just fine for a burble around the country roads, but never expect anything like electrifying performance from it. It's just not that kind of car.
And yet the Daimler is a much better car to drive than the Jag. Just goes to show HP and 0-60 times aren't that important.
@@matthewchannel9981 I can't think of one respect in which the Daimler is better than any Jaguar Mark 2 variant. A matter of opinion, of course, but give me the Jaguar any day. The Daimler is a fine car, but it just makes me want to doze off!
@@robbierobson3251 I suppose it fits in nicely between 2.4 and the 3.4.
Daimler Benz.
Odd fact: Gotlieb Daimler and Karl Benz never actually met.
A muscle car with only 140hp? I don't think so!
I agree, but then again, that was the UK version of a muscle car back then.
Wasent Daimler part of mercedes ?
Muscle car ? Bullshit. It was as underpowered as hell.
All that weight and only 137 bhp.
A lovely car to drive, keeps up with modern traffic and a joy to hear.