I actually owned this feature when it shipped in the 90s. I would suggest that the faster way to do this is to apply the default Heading 1, Heading 2, etc. styles and then modify those styles' formatting to look like you want. That way all the plumbing is already set up for list level, etc... all you need to do is to make it look pretty. Also, there's a keyboard shortcut to promote/demote list level aka change the list level up and down by pressing ++ (promote) and ++ (demote). Simple example... you type your first main heading and you want to apply Heading 1 style to it. Put the cursor in that paragraph and press ++. Done.
When creating a legal document, it is sometimes desirable to have body text directly follow the heading (usually at the 2nd or lower-numbered level). However, the TOC will normally include the body text in this case which is not acceptable. How can this be avoided? Example: 2.1 Second level heading. Paragraph follows immediately…..
I wish Microsoft thought this was how to use Word, but the "styles" functionality and the UI for it has not changed since 2007, at least. It has tons of very frustrating limitations.
When the ribbon came out, it was Scott who schooled me that changes in office and windows weren't targeted for older users but rather to drive adoption in newer users. It hurt but at least there was/is a reason.
@@krccmsitp2884I have found a way to sort of re-implement Office 2003 style UI in the latest version of office, by the help of Allah (A.W.J.). It honestly looks gorgeous, is compact, and easy to use, Alhamdulillah. I can share it if you are interested… May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.
That's why Microsoft Word is a horrible program. The fundamental concepts to work efficiently are hidden in a way no one knows about them and what is accessible to the user is endlessly manually formatting.
I wish there was some way to prevent users from randomly formatting or indenting text without using styles. It can take hours to fix a document that someone has manually formatted and indented. For business documents, official templates should be defined and used for all documents of the same type.
Thank you! I have been trying to figure this out since my freshman year in high school 😅 I loved the outline workflow, but as soon as I would switch to the print layout, it would all look wrong. May Allah (S.W.T.) bestow upon you His Blessings and Guidance; Ameen.
Thank you, Scott, for the informative video! I've experienced some challenges using Copilot with Microsoft Word, particularly when it came to integrating my company's specific formatting. It became clear after reviewing our document templates where the problem lay. While Microsoft is concentrating on security, encouraging us to carefully check document permissions, I think there's also a need to focus on the visual aspects of document creation. Microsoft should also offer guidance on ensuring that Office templates (not just those for Word) meet company branding standards. This would help Copilot produce secure and beautiful documents (and presentations).
The used case is when creating documents that are 30 to 100 pages long, huge dissertations or novels, to be able to step back and collapse their outlines
@@LewisCowles consistency of formating and ease of maintenance. Imagine deciding to change the font or some other styling for headings. With styles, you edit the style and all instances are immediately updated. If you manually applied styling to paragraphs, you'd have to find each instance and apply the updated formating to each... a pain.
I really wish Microsoft would stop cluttering up the applications with these useless UI, its like the last twenty years never happened, three toolbars at the top of the screen, a crap ton of icons in horizontal and vertical and of different sizes, old and new ui dialogs randomly all over the shop, what a nightmare
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I actually owned this feature when it shipped in the 90s. I would suggest that the faster way to do this is to apply the default Heading 1, Heading 2, etc. styles and then modify those styles' formatting to look like you want. That way all the plumbing is already set up for list level, etc... all you need to do is to make it look pretty.
Also, there's a keyboard shortcut to promote/demote list level aka change the list level up and down by pressing ++ (promote) and ++ (demote). Simple example... you type your first main heading and you want to apply Heading 1 style to it. Put the cursor in that paragraph and press ++. Done.
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When creating a legal document, it is sometimes desirable to have body text directly follow the heading (usually at the 2nd or lower-numbered level).
However, the TOC will normally include the body text in this case which is not acceptable. How can this be avoided?
Example:
2.1 Second level heading. Paragraph follows immediately…..
All I can say is, thank you. 🙏
So glad I watched this high-quality tutorial!!!thank you
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I wish Microsoft thought this was how to use Word, but the "styles" functionality and the UI for it has not changed since 2007, at least. It has tons of very frustrating limitations.
Just give me Office 97, it all one needs. No fancy ribbon interface and no additional fluff
When the ribbon came out, it was Scott who schooled me that changes in office and windows weren't targeted for older users but rather to drive adoption in newer users. It hurt but at least there was/is a reason.
@@Makumbi It would've been great to have the choice between the two.
@@krccmsitp2884true. Even the option not to upgrade has been taken.
@@krccmsitp2884I have found a way to sort of re-implement Office 2003 style UI in the latest version of office, by the help of Allah (A.W.J.). It honestly looks gorgeous, is compact, and easy to use, Alhamdulillah.
I can share it if you are interested…
May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.
I might be wrong but I think Office 97 already had the concepts shown here, just the UI was a little different.
That's why Microsoft Word is a horrible program. The fundamental concepts to work efficiently are hidden in a way no one knows about them and what is accessible to the user is endlessly manually formatting.
Not at all. This is why you take a little time to learn your tools - whatever they may be.
I wish there was some way to prevent users from randomly formatting or indenting text without using styles. It can take hours to fix a document that someone has manually formatted and indented. For business documents, official templates should be defined and used for all documents of the same type.
Thank you overmuch for this. I'm curious, is there a way to also add the numbering system to figures within a section?
Always high quality classy content.Thanks again!
Thanks alot
Scott, if you use the styles in the list, such as H1 and H2, anywhere else in your document, will it automatically create a multi-level list?
@@Mary-g2j6h If you have the list styles linked to the H1 or H2 styles, yes... Applying H1 or H2 styles elsewhere will add that level of the list.
Thank you! I have been trying to figure this out since my freshman year in high school 😅
I loved the outline workflow, but as soon as I would switch to the print layout, it would all look wrong.
May Allah (S.W.T.) bestow upon you His Blessings and Guidance; Ameen.
Another great video about Word. I love how you break down the problem into smaller pieces and solve them one by one, explaining as you go.
Glad it was helpful!
Hey @shanselman could you please talk to someone to improve the performance of windows 11 ?
Thank you, Scott, for the informative video! I've experienced some challenges using Copilot with Microsoft Word, particularly when it came to integrating my company's specific formatting. It became clear after reviewing our document templates where the problem lay. While Microsoft is concentrating on security, encouraging us to carefully check document permissions, I think there's also a need to focus on the visual aspects of document creation. Microsoft should also offer guidance on ensuring that Office templates (not just those for Word) meet company branding standards. This would help Copilot produce secure and beautiful documents (and presentations).
The TH-cam thumbnail face on this one... A+
Great vid Scott, as always, next one should be about how to create those thumbnails and how it affects the algorithm XD
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What is the use-case for this? I Feel like I just found out how to do something, that I've no idea why I would do?
The used case is when creating documents that are 30 to 100 pages long, huge dissertations or novels, to be able to step back and collapse their outlines
@@LewisCowles consistency of formating and ease of maintenance. Imagine deciding to change the font or some other styling for headings. With styles, you edit the style and all instances are immediately updated. If you manually applied styling to paragraphs, you'd have to find each instance and apply the updated formating to each... a pain.
I really wish Microsoft would stop cluttering up the applications with these useless UI, its like the last twenty years never happened, three toolbars at the top of the screen, a crap ton of icons in horizontal and vertical and of different sizes, old and new ui dialogs randomly all over the shop, what a nightmare