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This video will teach you the theoretical basis for correcting your gh5 & gh5s footage. Colour correction is important because it's the base for colour grading, and without it, you can't get the quality of films.
I have created a Colour correction KIT for the GH5 & 5s cameras and a free mini-course on colour correction and grading. You can join the course and download the free LUTs here:
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Does this work for any other type of camera? I am shooting with canon 6dII and 5dIV. Also, does it work with FCPX?
The kit is done only for gh5, but if I would remake the LUT for some other camera the same process could be done for other cameras as well. But I would not use Vlog as my base. :-D Maybe c-log for canon. Canan has good colours allready, so the benefit would not be so noticeable. On sony, this would be a lifesaver. So I'll do this for sony next. :-D Canon. Hmm I don't know if canon even needs this.
ok thank you!
YES the shade thrown at 2:18 is hilarious. I literally gasped lmao, recognized that voice and video immediately.
This page and this guy is so underrated... YOU DESERVE MORE MATE! Keep it up!
This will be fun to try out for some video nerding out. But for my comedy vlog I need to do as little in post as I can and I’m super happy shooting with Natural and white balancing against a Kodak 57, 18% grey card. So my question will a pre-white balance reduce my dynamic range?
Hello, Mr.Chato! Your fan here! No, pre-white balancing does not influence on DR at all
Hey, Serj, we must stop meeting across other people's channels like this. People will talk. Thanks for the info.
Hello you people! Thanks for helping Serj.
Huge WB shifts may increase the noise in blue channel. And probably reduce DR of blue channel. It's depends of internal camera processing.
It actually increases the dynamic range, since you don't have to mess with it in post, since no matter what, this is not RAW. :D
love love love it! thanx for creating superior content and sharing your skills,
Great work brotha! Much appreciated
Thank you for your excellent advice ! As always, the quality of your videos really makes a difference
Thanks for sharing man. For the mortal color correctors like me, this is more than enough to do better things. I already bought the KIT and everything works fine, congrats.
Really clean!
Man, you changed my life! Thanks for kit and mini course!
This is ludicrously backwards. Shooting in Cine-D and converting to V-log in post will not improve your footage, it is one of the most misguided things you can do with a GH5. V-log L is engineered purely to maximize the dynamic range of IMAGE CAPTURE, it is not intended as a post-production grading format.
This video's earlier advice is correct: With GH5 V-log L footage, you should use a calibrated LUT to convert it into Rec 709 format before attempting to grade it with other tools. But when you shoot in Cine-D, the footage is already in Rec 709 format, straight out of the camera, and it is TOTALLY POINTLESS to convert it into V-log format. If you do so, you will gain ZERO improvement in dynamic range and will only wind up converting it back to Rec 709 format at some later point in the grading process.
Yes, you will not recover any data you didn't capture, just like I said in the video. cine-d is not calibrated image profile. It's colour accuracy is really bad. When you turn it to v-log and then to rec709 with an accurate LUTs you will not gain any more data, but you gain calibrated (or at least more calibrated) colours and a format that is easier for grading. When it comes to DR cine-d doesn't have that much of a difference to v-log. Tested it my self and there is starting to pop up videos on youtube talking about the same thing.
Like this: th-cam.com/video/86Dx5qIljZY/w-d-xo.html But I'm not here to talk about the DR difference or not. I will not take any stand on the issue.
Yes, LUTs are good start, but one needs to be mindful of which LUT to use. There is big differences between different LUTs. The first video inside the course compares few different LUTs for V-log.
If your actual concern is to improve Cine-D color accuracy, V-log conversion is a time-consuming sidestep. There's a much more efficient and accurate way to calibrate Cine-D footage: Shoot a standard 4X6 color chart (such as X-rite), download Adobe's free DNG Profile Editor, and make your own calibrated LUT. This will produce superior results because it is calibrated specifically to your camera's tone curve, shooting at the color temperature of those particular lighting conditions. Do this with every scene and it will give you consistent color balance across all footage, regardless of lighting variations.
Or shoot with a 32x16 colour chart and the x-rite with 6 different exposures and offset WB to four different directions, create the LUT with 3D lut creator, which is the best tool on the market for this kind of work, minimise any human interaction to the process and calibrate the LUTs twice during the creation process and voila you will get even better result. :-D
That's the process I used for the LUTs inside the KIT.
That would work as well, but if you're going to that much trouble and expense, you can cut to the chase and produce conversion LUT's calibrated specifically to color correct GH5 Cine-D shot at specific color temperatures. That way you can work directly on Cine-D footage with no need to waste time round-tripping into V-log along the way. V-log offers no post production advantages over Rec 709 - it is NOT independent of white balance, is not standarized to anything more than Panasonic's proprietary specifications, and your monitor is calibrated to display Rec 709, not V-log. White balance is by far the most problematic issue with color correction of all non-RAW capture formats, with V-log footage just as much as Cine-D. Properly normalizing WB is the crucial step, regardless of your preferred camera profile.
You sir are a lifesaver. Tired of the other youtube channels demonstrating the same wrong way to colour grade.
This is awesome!! Great work, thank you for sharing the info!!!
This has been my saving grace for my gh5, really excited to try this out!
Great stuff man, I'm going to get your LUTs and try them out!
My footage FINALLY FINALLY looks cinematic on my GH5S... you are the MAN!!!! I would have NEVER EVER figured this out on my own. ..thank you thank you!!!!
Thank you Joonas, been learning a lot through your very descriptive and detailed videos.
Blessings,
Mike
Good to hear this Mike! :-)
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Mikkel Grum Bovin :-D short and sweet.
thank you Joo, i just bought the GH5, and your the reason i got one....im in south africa....your LUTs will make me a better filmmaker around thank you
Thanks for your work. Learned a lot for my videos!
Really impressive! Thank you Joonas! You have such a inspiring way to think out side the box. Kiitos, Magnus
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Mikkel Grum Bovin You mis spelled cool
man apreciate your work, amazing. keep makin.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Love ur vids Bro!
Dood this was dope! Thank you so much. Definitely helped me out big time. I paid for the luts and did your course. Excellent. :)
Paul Scott thaks for telling! :-)
used your channel mixer settings with a S curve and it's the best LOG to REC709 conversion I have used by far 🙏🏼 thank you so much
The part about "we know who" commenting on V-Log was brilliant and had me giggle 😁 I believe some people on TH-cam get too much recognition for the work they actually put, and sometimes they simply give wrong info to people, but that's another story... Anyways, great, informative video, I always appreciate your effort in giving these tips and ideas! Cheers!
Yes, I love the channel too. He is super good at what he does, but misinformation is misinformed. I must spread it sometimes as well. :-D
about whom are you talking? max?
I laughed audibly at that part because “you know who” canon fanboy, who I don’t generally have an issue with normally, had his gh5 vlog video TORN apart viciously lol
Great job dude
This is maybe the best video so far from a gh5 user. Thx a lot
Bro you're style of editing and that reddish colours are the best I've seen....pls make videos with this look...
amazing work!!!
Thanks for so professional speach. Respect. Great knowladge.
Such a great work man! Thank you so much!
You are wellcome!
thanks alot for sharing bro!
DUDE, thanks for this video.
This is amazing
Awesome work keep it up!!!
You are my favorite TH-camr joo humble person as well. I look forward to the more content you have in store.
Thanks! It's better to be humble. Less trouble... :-D
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Apart from pushing skin tones too far to red, the lut seems to work nicely.
I read a lot of the discussion above, and did I miss something or are you are the first person to mention this? Everyone is extremely rosy cheeked in these corrected pictures. Whereas the examples that are referred to are actually flatter, more natural and therefore more pleasing on the eye in my humble.
Hey Joo.Works. I picked up a gh5 and love it!!! however, i noticed today that 4k 10 bit playback is a bit choppy and out of sync in fcpx. do you have any suggested edited times for the gh5 4k 10 bit footage?
You completely got me with the Michael Scott's toby reaction... LOL
Your videos are incredibly helpful and clear and informative - but it was the Michael Scott clip that ultimately got you my subscribe :)
Great video, and right after I watched it I purchased the KIT! Thank you so much for sharing! Great techniques.
Hey great video....doing the color conversion and then doing the curve stuff...would that work equally well with a black magic cinema camera ....have you used their codecs?
Thanks! I will give this a try.
Your awesome this was very helpful information
Great information! Genius! Thank you!
Hi Joo, I did purchase the color kit, but I do nid find the v-gammut to rec709 film profile?
Hello, i watched your course, but I couldnt find your free luts. Where to download them?
Great video dude , thank you
@Joo.Works can you say something more about color correcting and grading Lumix's Cinelike-D? I'm using lumix g7 and i'm affraid of overdoing my footage, can't find any good tutorial how to grade it, everybody do logs.
Good video mate. Deffo will try. Learn smth new every day
Amazing vídeos, do itu know where I can find these look up tables for the Sony a6500?
Thanks for this.
Great video man! just a question, when you reverse engineer the rec709 stuff to vlog, wouldnt the rec709, by its nature, have some of the blacks and whits clipped, which are un-recoverable when you add the log curve?
Yes, the conversion doesn't give you any new data. It wild just spread the captured data to vlog space. Where it's much easier to work with. Try the free coure and you get the idea on how to the process works.
Man, you're genius! Really
I really enjoy your personality
Thanks!
You are just Amazing dude !! Thanks so much.. Do you have any ideas on the S1H V Log mode..?
Ok, so I’m not an expert or anything, but v-log is a logarithmic profile while other profiles are linear. This means that v-log will be much more capable to keep details in too bright/too dark areas. It is a way to increase the dynamic range. Switching a normal profile to a log profile will only deteriorate the quality further. You will never get quality back that didn’t exist in the first place.
Correct, except turning std to vlog and then back to rec709 doesn't deteriorate the quality as long as you software's working bit depth is 16 or more. (the footage's bit depth doesn't matter) Premiere Pro, fcpx and resolve work in 16 or more bits.
But you are correct, the luts will not give you more data, it will just remap everything to vlog. Kind of redistribute the data to a new coordinates. Not magic, but makse it easier to work with.
Just watched this video and learned so much! I don't have the GH5 yet, only the GH4 and love it. Would these LUTs work on the GH4 by any chance? Thanks for your insights and for being willing to share them with us.
You got me! I paused haha. I'm about to purchase the GH5 and this is super helpful! Thank you so much man
Adan Sotelo you are most wellcome. Do check the free course as well.
I’m not sure if your method is the appropriate way to shoot footage in the gh5 as I haven’t dived into it enough or tested it...but I will say I am impressed with the way you respond to your criticism and push for open dialogue. 🙌🏻
Hello, where can I learn the special method you show at 07:20 i want to make these look up tables for my canon 550d
Hahaha, great sound bite. Great vid!
hi, can I use your filter for my dji mavic air? I really love the style!
You’re right. This is what I was looking for.
I'd spend $ on one of your color correction courses. Great work Joo!
How many luts are included in this colour correction kit?
Which lens did you use for these color graded sample footages?
Very informative tutorial. You're right! never seen anything like this before. It looks simple but effective. I guess this should also work with the sony #a6300 and the sony #x1000v action camera. Thank you for secret settings 😉
Thanks! Yes, a6500 and a6300 will be next. First I'll refine the logic of the KIT as well.
Hi broth nice ideal. Can I use the colour kit with my panasony gh4 in cine d???
how can I get a Cinematic looks video during the facebook live streaming with Panasonic GH5s and which lens is best for such this live streaming ?
You're awesome.
I have a dvx200 and a gh4. Do think your method could be used with them?
best salesmen ever
Most excellent.
awesome, bought it. I will try it out soon and give some feedback here
@Joonas Tähtinen At 7:51 in your video you say to shoot in HLG instead of vLog because HLG offers greater Luminance range. But if you will be exporting to Rec.709 (e.g., most TH-cam videos), how does shooting in HLG improve footage over vLog?
When I did this video I was impressed of the image quality of HLG and in theory, it does give you better image data, and that seems to be so in tests as well. So you should get a better image with the HLG and that improvement will carry through to youtube as well, but maybe not that much that it actually matters. But vice versa you won't get any better colour and detail with v-log either.
But in my test after this video, I realised that with v-log one can make really accurate WB modifications that you can't do as accurate in HLG. So if you are to shoot totally run and gun, then v-log might still be a better option, but you need to buy it for to use it.
Thank you. I never purchased vLog. Initially, I shot in Cine-D on my GH5 to get better DR, but now I enjoy even greater DR with HLG. I purchased Leeming HLG LUT to convert Rec.2020 to Rec.709 with good color rendition, and the newest version Leeming HLG LUT works about as well as the free Driftwood LUT for me -- good, but the end result is not comparable to the colors of your videos. I signed up for the GH5 MINI COURSE and have been watching those videos and am now considering the purchase of your kit. Prior to purchase I just wanted to confirm if shooting in HLG is indeed superior to shooting in vLog. If I don't need to buy vLog, I won't. (By the way, I edit in FCPX 10.4.)
I shoot Vlog. In premiere I apply tge Panasonic vlog to 709 lut. Then I tweak the curves saturation contrast etc to my liking. Simple and good results.
Good to hear that. Try my vlog to rec709 LUT, you might like it better. :-) Tell me what you think. The LUT is on the course page.
Hey I bought the color kit and I'm doing a test with HLG to vlog. how do you turn that into rec709? I'm using final cut and you can only load one LUT at a time.
There is a video on the part 1 of the free course you can check out. FCPX can handle as many LUTs as you add to the effect stack. Or are you using some older version? On part 3 of the free mini-course there is a tutorial on how to create your own luts, for example combining two luts to one.
Can I use the LUT on G85 Cinelink D footages?
you are jenius.. thanks
Great tips.. had no idea about the channel mixer and will play around with that. I will say that i use VLOG-L exclusively now (don't bother with CINE-D unless you only want to do minor tweaks and need footage out faster). I do most of my color correcting then grading by Eye normally with scopes. The Skintone line is always the most difficult to adjust for and get correct. He is absolutely correct in converting the color space first this is logical because you edit for your output format. VLOG-L allows you to push the colors further then would be possible in a standard on Camera LUT due to its dynamic range. Thats the whole point of VLOG.. It would be interesting to see if Joo has a workflow for HDR color spaces yet however? ie a different LUT for those as that is becoming the next big thing.. I will say that I have been using Panasonic's Varicam 35mm to Rec709 Log (downloadable from Panasonic - sorry don't have the link currently) which is also usable on the GH5.. and with some minor tweaking afterwards also gives really good results for REC709 output.
awesome video man! was that a TF sound bite about the youtube color correction? lol love the vid and the tips. liked and subscribed!
matt dutiel yes it was TF. I relly like his channel.
me too! I thought I recognized that voice! great info, keep up the great work!
I am shooting with the GH5s and GH4 as my secondary camera, I have both on Cine D the GH4 for some reason has a + next to the Cine D... My question is, how do I get the colors to look the same in both cameras? When I bring in to Premiere I have a tough time making the two match? Thank you!
Your GH5 kit is the only thing I use to grade my GH5 and it is amazing what you've done! People have no clue! You definitely deserve more subscribers and I even used it on a Sony FS7 S-log2 and it was way better than what I had been used to...I converted the slog footage to rec709 in Davinci Resolve and then used your GH5 kit to convert to v-log and then used the rec709 film ..wow..also for those who doubt your method of converting cined or standard to v-log and then to rec709 using your kit...they should watch or check out Juan Melara (a professional colorist) and his method is just like yours and I consider both of you the best when it comes to color grading. You guys are the closest thing to an Arri footage on a cheap camera...Please, keep doing what you're doing and I'm sure people will notice very soon..please do something for Sony Users ..thanks
2:19...shots fired at Travel Feels!
Did attend film school? which camera are you using today for filming?
Hi do this work for my GH4? :) or you will have a separate LUT and REc files for the gh4?
great video jus sub here.
Winton Wilmot apparently the luts work with the gh4 as well many have tested and said that they do. I have not, but will sooner or later test them. You can try them for 14days and if you don't like them just hit me with a message and I'll refund you.
Joo brother your visuals are effing stunning..........started checking your work out (as you genuine and its good)....im still struggling between buying a gh5s and the blackmagic 4k.....i know all the differences.....have you any thoughts on this? ......i love the rich colours of panasonic.....still think (even thought the dynamic range is different between the two cameras)......have you bought any anamorphic lenses yet to work wiht the gh5s.......i know the sirui......are awesome....let me know your thoughts......ide be grateful bro.....keep up the magic.....these shots are stunning mate.....rich and poetic ......
Hello,
does the Color Correction Kit also works with V-Log or any other footage coming from the GH4.
Thank you in advanve.
I have use the kit with gh4, with nice results. If you shoot 8bits and v-log the quality is bit bad, but cine-d works just fine on gh4.
I have a question... with the Lumix G7 (cinelike-D) what do you recommend?
You could try this kit out. There must be some small differences in colour, for it's a different sensor, but who knows, maybe it works just fine.
You can try and then if it doesn't work just ask for a refund, I'll refund you, no questions asked. One fellow told me that it worked very well with the gx85, so maybe it works with g7. :-/
Thank you for this tutorial and sharing your LUTS. Although I don't have a GH5, I do have a GX8 which can shoot cine-D that I can benefit from your LUTS...
I have done these LUTs with the gh5 so I can't promise you anything, but there have been people working with these LUTs in gx85 and gh4 and they have said that it works. I haven't tested it my self.
I like the Scandinavian look of log.
What's the lens you are uisng? I see some nice bokeh :) TIA
Can you make for like SONY a 7 mk iii and a6300 ?
I'm interigued. Ok ready to give this process a fare shake but I'm stuck... how do I capture in huberglobama? Can you please spell out what you're saying around the 8min mark?
Hyper log gamma. :-D inside the free course you can find instructions about it on the settings page.
Necessity is the mother of invention - I will try this
Interesting!
Hey, really really nice and interesting! My question to you, because it really looks like you know what you're doing is, I am editing on macbook 2016 in premiere and because of the new p3 wide gamut display the saturation in premiere looks wrong (its too much) because premiere has no color management and it just thinks my display is standard srgb so the saturation is wrong (hope you understand what my problem is) and I am now just trying to adjust that by using a Lut or an adjustment layer thats taking out saturation to compensate for that but its never really accurate. Do you have any tips on how to do that in a better way? It would be SO helpful! And please make this Kit also for the a7s2 ;)
Hmmm... Sorry I have a older mac book pro. I'll look into that for I might be getting my self a new macbook pro so I'll end in the same situation as you.
Joo.Works okay, :)
I'm really glad you used Matti's voice and "tips" to show what should be avoided. He should stick to sponsoring Canon instead of teaching things he's not good at :P
I think people are just being hostile in the comments because they feel like they're being sold to.
Just wanted to let you know that I totally love what you're doing here and I find your tutorials super helpful. There are way too many channels out there that upload "color grading tutorials" that are really just videos of them teaching you how to ruin all your footage 😂
Keep up the valuable content man, I've definitely learned a lot from your channel!