This is a delight to watch! How nice to see someone under the age of 953 (like me) who knows his stuff! He explains it in easy-to-understand terms. Best of luck with this project:you are preserving our heritage
This was an amazing video! I loved all the tiny details that were mentioned in the operations of the engine and the various facets of the pumpstation. This is by far the most in-depth video I've seen on a steam engine pump. Thank you so much!
I love it! A steam nerd! And a good one. Obviously deep knowledge bordering on love. Glad to see it in someone so young. Great video and I wish you success with the project.
It is time to learn metalwork and get this think running ... stop talking! "The words exchanged enough, let me finally see action! While you are latheting compliments, something useful can happen." Johann Wolfgang Goethe
(showing large trees) "the tracks are no longer serviceable" - biggest understatement ever. Great video BTW - would love to hear more about this plant, and I love that it was more than just "here's a big engine starting" but you actually dug into a lot of interesting details most videos never care about. Thanks for putting this out there!
This is one of the best explanation videos of steam engines I’ve ever seen, just amazing. I’ve been an HVACR technician my whole life and I love the work, but would quit today if I ever get the opportunity to help restore something like this. Thanks for the video!
I was at the last run of big allis it was awesome. I’m actually in one of the videos with to of my friends. I’ve seen it run 3 times before they stopped the annual running
It's such a shame that a fascinating piece like this has so few views but some teenybopper channel about how to organise your shoes gets millions... Loved this. Thanks for creating this.
HUGE PROPS FOR YOU AND YOUR BUDDY! THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE LOVE AND FORESIGHT TO PRESERVE SUCH AMAZING MECHANICAL DESIGN HISTORY FOR THE REST OF US! Much love!!!! A+++
Absolutely splendid documentary! Very well thought out and including the fine details. Really appreciate keeping history working so everyone can enjoy.
Cast iron can be welded with todays welding and heat treating techniques and metallurgy. You can probably repair those steam traps. With the right guys you can probably repair the pumps.
The Savery vacuum engine pre-dated Newcomen slightly and Newcomen later went into partnership with Savery due to Savery holding the vital patents. The first semi-practical working installation of a Savery vacuum pump was at Hampton Court Palace in London in 1702 as a fresh water pump. It must have been at least partially effective as it continued in use for some 14 years.
Ran 65 years continously. Amazing. Just Imagine. It was started before WW1 and ran continously thru WW1, WW2, korean war and thru the war in Vietnam. Jeez!
1. This is easilyone of the coolest steam engines I've ever seen 2. It looks like the kind of place where Batman is going to burst in at any moment and start fighting one of his villains
Please look into joining our club (North Jersey Antique Engine and Machine Club). I will be honored to cover your cost if you choose to do so... I was elated to hear about your endeavor and I look forward to visiting soon and possibly helping to restore you pump house and especially your steam engine!!!
If you have not been there. GO. You will be amazed at the size of the stem engine. Me and my wife went to see the place. The men at it were so much involved in the past. We had a great time there. You need to go see it. You want regret it. Ps. they have a Train museum there also it was the old town.
The main steam valve is not the 'throttle' of this engine - the throttle is a set of mechanical linkages which are under control of the governor. The engine is throttled by changing the timing and possibly the stroke of the Corliss valves. As for the main steam valve, it doesn't have a direct analog in a modern gasoline engine. You might think of it as a fuel shutoff, but this would also be incorrect as the engine's boiler is fueled by coal.
The throttle is absolutely not the governed admission valve trip. That is cutoff control. The main steam valve into the engine is in this case known as a throttle because it can be used for speed control if this feature fails for any reason. Any engine where the speed governance is controlled by the governor "throttling" the steam at a valve just after this is a throttle governed engine, any engine where the governor alters the valve timing, cutoff or both, such as this Corliss, is a valve gear governed engine. Ideally "throttling" does not happen because the trip mechanism is designed for the valve to be fully open and then fully shut, which prevents wire drawing of the steam and expansion across the valve that would cause inefficiency.
as you said "gas engine" the best eq is the throttle valve " plate" that controls the amount of air and fuel that goes into gas engine. the governor on a steam engine works about the same way. better is the governor in a diesel engine in that it controls the amount of fuel to the engine.
@@martehoudesheldt5885 I don't think I got my point across. The governor on variable valve-timing steam engines does not in any way throttle incoming steam flow. It alters the admission valve opening duration and, sometimes depending on design, the admission valve event phase angle. The governor on a corliss or flywheel governed engine in no way throttles steam flow into the engine at any time as it does on old fashioned simple shop or utility steam engines.
Oh this is fantastic finally a piece of Heavy industrial preservation and its right in my backyard not far from the Bel Del steam train too! I will definitely want to visit a operators tour day in the near future! Absolutely a great project! If he isn't already involved talk to Steam Engineer Gary on the Bel Del great CME of anything steam. I'm sure he'd help you out! Great chap and loves steam every bit as much as I do!
Interesting video with comments of someone who knows... Rather seldom today. But one thing: The title is "operable steam engine", so most people hope to see it in function. For me, the gigantic machine seems to be somewhat "dead".
Thanks Philip... I hope to get a tour someday. I'd really like a tour of the Cincinatti engines, that tour is very hard to get. After covid, hopefully!
so the pile of coal outside the building was the last fuel delivery for the stationary steam engine but because of what happened to it the coal was never used?
I think I might have the piston retaining nut wrench for that monster. It weighs 531 lbs. and is horizontally used hanging from a crane then beat on with a dolly bar. (battering ram)
I've heard a story about a large engine at a mine or something and they had to shut it down and had to call around and get people to come to them because it had been decades since whatever the thing was that was shut off and no one working there knew how to start the thing.
Whaaaat..? This thing is a cast....forged...rolled......40 ton machine..? Extra assembly required..... See our catalog..... Deliveries labor and advice
It's actually too bad you have these massive and useful machines just sitting there doing nothing. How great would it be to have the engine serving is purpose while still being a museum piece and helping to earn it's keep.
Where is this place? I was at Kempton Park a week ago. Certainly some similarities, triple expansion engines installed first, Kempton has two dating from 1928 or 29. Space was provided for a third which was never installed, two turbine sets were installed a few years later. I don’t know what the valve gear at Kempton is, I have absolutely no head for heights so didn’t climb up to look at it, but it didn’t sound like corliss. Both places had d.c. power systems, Kempton was 200V. I think steam driven dynamos were originally used, later twin mercury arc rectifiers from 415 V three phase mains, which were removed after the station closed but have been replaced by a similar set which were obtained from the Royal Opera House of all places. Both places had a water turbine dynamo as an emergency backup; Kempton’s was rated at 50 kW, but I don’t know if the turbine could supply that much power. The mercury arc rectifiers are rated for 200 A at 200 V, so 40 kW. No boiler plant survives at Kempton, but a small modern gas fired boiler has been installed to supply one engine. The other engine doesn’t run, but because it’s not moving visitors are allowed to climb up to examine it. I don’t know when the last steam powered pumping station in the UK, but there were a few still working at the time of the coal miners’ strike, which I think was 1984. Kempton Park shut down in 1980.
An hour long lecture, but with no _action._ How disappointing. If this is indeed "North America's largest operable" steam engine, can we please see it operate? One silent example is better than a thousand sermons; actions speak louder than words
Americans refer to an engine as frozen if it cannot be rotated, --- the rest of the world which is not the U.S.A --- never know if the engine will not rotate because it is locked with ice or has the engine lubrication failed or a component failed ?????????
No. The engine is nearly entirely intact, the only things missing are on the boiler side. There is no fear of the engine "blowing up". The cylinder castings are several inches thick, and were they badly worn to a point of being too thin the engine simply would not have run as the steam would have blown by the rings. The original on site boilers have not been steamed since the plant was shut down, but are still in remarkable shape.
This is a delight to watch! How nice to see someone under the age of 953 (like me) who knows his stuff! He explains it in easy-to-understand terms. Best of luck with this project:you are preserving our heritage
This was an amazing video! I loved all the tiny details that were mentioned in the operations of the engine and the various facets of the pumpstation. This is by far the most in-depth video I've seen on a steam engine pump. Thank you so much!
I love it! A steam nerd! And a good one. Obviously deep knowledge bordering on love. Glad to see it in someone so young. Great video and I wish you success with the project.
Thanks! It's been a trying project and continues to be, but it's always worth it.
It is time to learn metalwork and get this think running ... stop talking!
"The words exchanged enough, let me finally see action!
While you are latheting compliments, something useful can happen."
Johann Wolfgang Goethe
This is one of the most interesting things I've watched in a while, thanks for going into detail where others are afraid to
(showing large trees) "the tracks are no longer serviceable" - biggest understatement ever. Great video BTW - would love to hear more about this plant, and I love that it was more than just "here's a big engine starting" but you actually dug into a lot of interesting details most videos never care about. Thanks for putting this out there!
This is the best explanation of a triple expansion steam engine that I have seen. Excellent work, both on restoration and the explanation!
Outstanding video! You did a great job presenting all this!
Brilliant presentation. I live in Connecticut and am soo happy to know this facility is together and being looked after. Thank you.
This is one of the best explanation videos of steam engines I’ve ever seen, just amazing. I’ve been an HVACR technician my whole life and I love the work, but would quit today if I ever get the opportunity to help restore something like this. Thanks for the video!
Wow, this is an impressive piece of history and engineering. Too bad it is rusty and dirty...let`s hope it gets restored in the near future.
Thanks for saving this and making sure it didn't fall apart.
This is exciting!! What a grand informative tour. You truly are the Professor of Steam. Greetings from Florida, USA.
I was at the last run of big allis it was awesome. I’m actually in one of the videos with to of my friends. I’ve seen it run 3 times before they stopped the annual running
Excellent video, thanks for the hard work.
It's such a shame that a fascinating piece like this has so few views but some teenybopper channel about how to organise your shoes gets millions...
Loved this. Thanks for creating this.
HUGE PROPS FOR YOU AND YOUR BUDDY! THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE LOVE AND FORESIGHT TO PRESERVE SUCH AMAZING MECHANICAL DESIGN HISTORY FOR THE REST OF US!
Much love!!!! A+++
Great video,,,,great narrative. What an interesting majestic example of wonderful engineering from the past.
What a pleasure to watch. Wonderful presentation...........I find these old engines amazing.
Preservation is the best thing to say what you are doing to that great old steam engine-pump keep up the great work 🎉🎉
Great video! Thank you.
Absolutely splendid documentary! Very well thought out and including the fine details. Really appreciate keeping history working so everyone can enjoy.
Cast iron can be welded with todays welding and heat treating techniques and metallurgy. You can probably repair those steam traps. With the right guys you can probably repair the pumps.
there is a technique to welding cast iron. It is possible, but some nuances must be observed.
The steam traps will be an easy repair for us. There is no point to repairing the pumps as we will not be using them.
The Savery vacuum engine pre-dated Newcomen slightly and Newcomen later went into partnership with Savery due to Savery holding the vital patents. The first semi-practical working installation of a Savery vacuum pump was at Hampton Court Palace in London in 1702 as a fresh water pump. It must have been at least partially effective as it continued in use for some 14 years.
Great work on restoring it, and great presentation too.
Great narrative mate. Awesome work. Thank you!
absolutely fascinating so nice this is preserved thank you
Mechanical machines are fantastic. This is one of them. Thanks for this video. Greets from Germany.
This presentation would have been outstanding if you had worn a lapel mike!
Extremely interesting. Thank you
Phenomenal! And I live close. I'll have to visit.
That's willy willy neat . Thanks for shaywing .
What a cool video. He did a great job at explaining it.
I enjoyed the overview. Please keep them coming! Thanks!
Great video! Thanks!
I want to travel back to 1910 and remain there in an eternal loop, please!
Thanks from old New Orleans 😎
Damn... Alex Karnes, and we didn't even get to hear him talk.
Well done Sir! Thank You Enjoyed the documentary if you will! 👍👀📹, 👏🍻🧙♂️🇺🇸😎
Ran 65 years continously. Amazing.
Just Imagine. It was started before WW1 and ran continously thru WW1, WW2, korean war and thru the war in Vietnam. Jeez!
1. This is easilyone of the coolest steam engines I've ever seen
2. It looks like the kind of place where Batman is going to burst in at any moment and start fighting one of his villains
Wonderful presentation.
Amazing that they could build a engine to last so long and today we settle for cheap Chinese stuff. Great upload thankyou
Awesome 😎👍
This gives the term Steam Punk a whole new meaning , well done!
Thanks
"I've brought my lantern..." I laughed as I've been watching lantern videos and recognize it as a hot blast hurricane lantern.
Damn this huge thing for only 500hp, damn this thing we're truly built for torque alone huh.
Please look into joining our club (North Jersey Antique Engine and Machine Club). I will be honored to cover your cost if you choose to do so... I was elated to hear about your endeavor and I look forward to visiting soon and possibly helping to restore you pump house and especially your steam engine!!!
If you have not been there. GO. You will be amazed at the size of the stem engine. Me and my wife went to see the place. The men at it were so much involved in the past. We had a great time there. You need to go see it. You want regret it.
Ps. they have a Train museum there also it was the old town.
Very good video a bit more light will be nice . THANK YOU
U should be really proud of saving this old girl
Excellent! Thank you.
Excellent. Loved your nonchalance!
Could we please have a update video on progress in restoration
The main steam valve is not the 'throttle' of this engine - the throttle is a set of mechanical linkages which are under control of the governor. The engine is throttled by changing the timing and possibly the stroke of the Corliss valves.
As for the main steam valve, it doesn't have a direct analog in a modern gasoline engine. You might think of it as a fuel shutoff, but this would also be incorrect as the engine's boiler is fueled by coal.
The throttle is absolutely not the governed admission valve trip. That is cutoff control. The main steam valve into the engine is in this case known as a throttle because it can be used for speed control if this feature fails for any reason. Any engine where the speed governance is controlled by the governor "throttling" the steam at a valve just after this is a throttle governed engine, any engine where the governor alters the valve timing, cutoff or both, such as this Corliss, is a valve gear governed engine.
Ideally "throttling" does not happen because the trip mechanism is designed for the valve to be fully open and then fully shut, which prevents wire drawing of the steam and expansion across the valve that would cause inefficiency.
as you said "gas engine" the best eq is the throttle valve " plate" that controls the amount of air and fuel that goes into gas engine. the governor on a steam engine works about the same way. better is the governor in a diesel engine in that it controls the amount of fuel to the engine.
@@martehoudesheldt5885 I don't think I got my point across. The governor on variable valve-timing steam engines does not in any way throttle incoming steam flow. It alters the admission valve opening duration and, sometimes depending on design, the admission valve event phase angle. The governor on a corliss or flywheel governed engine in no way throttles steam flow into the engine at any time as it does on old fashioned simple shop or utility steam engines.
Fantastic video. Any footage of the engine running ?
Here you go! th-cam.com/video/ampnyRd_0ew/w-d-xo.html
@@nationalmuseumofindustrial1200 Brilliant. Thanks!
Might be inaccurate if the unit at the Kansas State Industrial Reformatory in Hutchison KS is still operational
Oh this is fantastic finally a piece of Heavy industrial preservation and its right in my backyard not far from the Bel Del steam train too! I will definitely want to visit a operators tour day in the near future! Absolutely a great project! If he isn't already involved talk to Steam Engineer Gary on the Bel Del great CME of anything steam. I'm sure he'd help you out! Great chap and loves steam every bit as much as I do!
Wow! What a part of history.
Today on, This Old Pump House.
Bravo. Great effort! Quite inspirational.
Interesting video with comments of someone who knows... Rather seldom today. But one thing: The title is "operable steam engine", so most people hope to see it in function. For me, the gigantic machine seems to be somewhat "dead".
Thanks Philip... I hope to get a tour someday. I'd really like a tour of the Cincinatti engines, that tour is very hard to get. After covid, hopefully!
Great video..love that entire building!!!
You mean the 19th century because that's when we in the UK were building these behemoths
Excellent presentation and tour. Are you a full time employee dedicated to this restoration?
God bless you!
What are the plans for the boilers? They don't l ook even close to operational.
the proper people on here did a similar steam engine at another water plant.
Do you guys offer tours? I work for a railroad down in south Jersey. Coworker told me to look ya up on TH-cam. Very cool!
Hello. Thank you for the upload! What is the bore size of the low pressure cylinder? Is it 48" since the difference between the first two is 12"?
Dude, you need to put a Mike on your collar. People can't understand what you're saying because of the hollow effect.
May I suggest a wireless mike the next time you make a video?
Steam powered...boiler ...building.....installation......maintenance
FUEL.....
INSURANCE......
REPAIR.......
UNION......
DEBT
What do you mean; "short corners will quack"?
what would it cost to fully repair all things so it can pump water again?
any efforts to make it able to pump water again?
A aboutt 2:50, most engine people use the term connecting rod. This "con rod" drives component "X" ...
Thankfully the didn't scrap that engine,would love to bring my kid to see that running.
so the pile of coal outside the building was the last fuel delivery for the stationary steam engine but because of what happened to it the coal was never used?
Nice one boys
120 ton shipping weight..?
I think I might have the piston retaining nut wrench for that monster. It weighs 531 lbs. and is horizontally used hanging from a crane then beat on with a dolly bar. (battering ram)
I've heard a story about a large engine at a mine or something and they had to shut it down and had to call around and get people to come to them because it had been decades since whatever the thing was that was shut off and no one working there knew how to start the thing.
Whaaaat..?
This thing is a cast....forged...rolled......40 ton machine..? Extra assembly required.....
See our catalog.....
Deliveries labor and advice
How does this engine compare with the Cincinnati WW engine, which claims to be the world's largest?
Does he mention the HP&LP bore?
Uk got kempton water pumping station it has exactly same engines the titanic had triple expansion engine
It must've been a sad day when they shut this off
Do you need any more volunteers? I;m about 1/2 hr south of you
Hey there, yes! We're always looking for volunteers. You can find more info at www.nmih.org/support/volunteer/
It's actually too bad you have these massive and useful machines just sitting there doing nothing. How great would it be to have the engine serving is purpose while still being a museum piece and helping to earn it's keep.
I thought Buffalo's Pumping station engine was bigger...
Looks similar to the Kempton Park engines in the UK...
Where is this place?
I was at Kempton Park a week ago. Certainly some similarities, triple expansion engines installed first, Kempton has two dating from 1928 or 29. Space was provided for a third which was never installed, two turbine sets were installed a few years later. I don’t know what the valve gear at Kempton is, I have absolutely no head for heights so didn’t climb up to look at it, but it didn’t sound like corliss.
Both places had d.c. power systems, Kempton was 200V. I think steam driven dynamos were originally used, later twin mercury arc rectifiers from 415 V three phase mains, which were removed after the station closed but have been replaced by a similar set which were obtained from the Royal Opera House of all places. Both places had a water turbine dynamo as an emergency backup; Kempton’s was rated at 50 kW, but I don’t know if the turbine could supply that much power. The mercury arc rectifiers are rated for 200 A at 200 V, so 40 kW.
No boiler plant survives at Kempton, but a small modern gas fired boiler has been installed to supply one engine. The other engine doesn’t run, but because it’s not moving visitors are allowed to climb up to examine it.
I don’t know when the last steam powered pumping station in the UK, but there were a few still working at the time of the coal miners’ strike, which I think was 1984. Kempton Park shut down in 1980.
An hour long lecture, but with no _action._ How disappointing. If this is indeed "North America's largest operable" steam engine, can we please see it operate? One silent example is better than a thousand sermons; actions speak louder than words
Americans refer to an engine as frozen if it cannot be rotated, --- the rest of the world which is not the U.S.A --- never know if the engine will not rotate because it is locked with ice or has the engine lubrication failed or a component failed ?????????
Interesting video. Although the lighting is terrible
sadly it cant pump water anymore....wanted to see it....
Narrator is a Steam Punk?
👍👍
Echo terrible.
so basicly its a wreck missing all sorts of stuff? arent you afraid it might blow up?
No. The engine is nearly entirely intact, the only things missing are on the boiler side. There is no fear of the engine "blowing up". The cylinder castings are several inches thick, and were they badly worn to a point of being too thin the engine simply would not have run as the steam would have blown by the rings. The original on site boilers have not been steamed since the plant was shut down, but are still in remarkable shape.
It is essentially impossible to "blow up" a waterworks engine, or anything like one.