Huge huge huge diff between a 53 to a 58. 58 is one of the most desirable grades as not only is it essentially an MS63 with a trace of hi point rub, they almost never have bad eye appeal… not to mention the Everyman registry appeal AU58 is almost impossible ro differentiate from MS to the casual and intermediate collector From a guy who spent 7 years assembling AU58 barber halves and quarters I can tell you my love of that grade is not isolated to me In the case of this Morgan the availability of the rare dates like the 89-CC there’s way more available in the XF40-AU 50/53 range Finding a nice 58 is exponentially scarcer Great video and great coins Ben !
Greetings Ben, I am not a true Morgan collector but this is a nice trio of rare dates. I can see the Morgan collectors coming after these three. These are money in the bank! Best Wishes.
I'm glad you were able to get a good grade out of that 1893 s even if they didn't want to give it to you in a cross. Thanks for sharing these rare gems!
Cracking a coin runs the risk of damaging the coin, so I would leave the 1889-CC in its holder. The AU53 grade looks appropriate. Look at the scratches on Liberty's cheek, nose and in the field in front of her face. Then look at the scratch in front of the Eagle's wing plus other scratches on the reverse. Granted, it's an attractive coin with mint luster, but you have to be realistic with rare coins like the 1889-CC not to overgrade them with wide price points between grades.
ben, its the big field hairline patch behind the cap that limited the 92cc.. a common date wouldve detailed. and that rev V clash is from the back of the cap on the obv right next to the big hairline patch
On the 1892 CC given a 61 from NGC...do you think that there was/is a reasonable chance (if similar or same coin) is resubmitted, that they would DETAILS the coin, saying "cleaned"? Thank you. Thumbs up!
The more I see Morgan's below MS60, the more capricious seems the grading. It is almost as if the date and mint skew the final grade of the coin. Is it true that XF50 means more if the next increment is measured in thousands rather than twenty or fifty, and is therefore less likely to be graded higher by another service. Or are we not supposed to notice that?
When I see a PCI Holder, my default is to give a shout out to Jeff at Heritage Auctions, and think about maybe slabbing Missile Command from my Atari 2600.. Does Heritage auction PCI holders or is that taboo?
There was a lot of old new stock that came out when some stores went under. These are specific titles that are FAR more common shrinked than they are even in the wild used.
Wow, I would have gone AU cleaned on the '89CC.The '92CC as you say comes from a year with a lot of PLs. The reverse looks the original grade, the obv. not so much with some possibly suspect central areas on bust (for rub)...That's why the 61PL. The 93S looked VF35ish so 40 was a go.
Question pls...Will NGC (only) cross PCGS? You'd said NGC won't cross ANACS...so therefore is it also true that NGS will not cross other (slabbed) coins? like SEGS/ICG/SGS/PCI et al? Thank you. Thumbs up!
The issue with grading is too many variables and human error. Resubmit the same coin 3 times and I bet you will get there different grades pending on the graders mood that day. I do understand the "grade" mentality but at the same time despise it. It's far from consistent imo.
I don't care what anyone says, that 92 is minimum 62, should be 63 even 63 plus. In my opinion they grade the more rare dates much much harsher. Maybe to preserve the already graded ones, or who knows. That coin is not a 61 PL. That is higher. Lousy lousy coin graders.
ANACS has different graders and standards from their "soapbox" era slabs like the one shown here compared to present day. Most of their soapbox holders crossover for the same grade or higher. Right now those soapbox holders are becoming more collectible.
Last week convenience store find: 1881 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR COIN VAM - 6, DDO, MISALIGNED DIE, DATE OVER DATE. I've been trying to get you to see it with no avail 😔🪙
Huge huge huge diff between a 53 to a 58. 58 is one of the most desirable grades as not only is it essentially an MS63 with a trace of hi point rub, they almost never have bad eye appeal… not to mention the Everyman registry appeal
AU58 is almost impossible ro differentiate from MS to the casual and intermediate collector
From a guy who spent 7 years assembling AU58 barber halves and quarters I can tell you my love of that grade is not isolated to me
In the case of this Morgan the availability of the rare dates like the 89-CC there’s way more available in the XF40-AU 50/53 range
Finding a nice 58 is exponentially scarcer
Great video and great coins Ben !
Yep, put a 58 and a 62 on a table and the 58 will look nicer. I've seen 58s that look like a 64 or 65 even except for......
You're either rich or crazy 😂
Maybe just a daredevil. You should change your nickname to Evel Coinevel!
Greetings Ben, I am not a true Morgan collector but this is a nice trio of rare dates. I can see the Morgan collectors coming after these three. These are money in the bank! Best Wishes.
Ben always makes me laugh, he's a funny geek
I'm glad you were able to get a good grade out of that 1893 s even if they didn't want to give it to you in a cross. Thanks for sharing these rare gems!
Another great crackout! I like them all, but that 92-CC is an eye catcher!
The fact that all 3 straight graded is a huge win in itself hurray !
I’m still sensing a little cantankerousness when you mention Cac haha
Great Coins Ben!!! Thank you!!!
Nice set, Ben. I had an ‘89-CC in PCGS AU53 and I dare say, yours looks much nicer.
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Very nice coins thanks for sharing
Awesome trio of coins Mr. Ben.
Cracking a coin runs the risk of damaging the coin, so I would leave the 1889-CC in its holder. The AU53 grade looks appropriate. Look at the scratches on Liberty's cheek, nose and in the field in front of her face. Then look at the scratch in front of the Eagle's wing plus other scratches on the reverse. Granted, it's an attractive coin with mint luster, but you have to be realistic with rare coins like the 1889-CC not to overgrade them with wide price points between grades.
Some real rarities, Ben. That 89-CC is definitely a good candidate for CAC.
ben, its the big field hairline patch behind the cap that limited the 92cc.. a common date wouldve detailed. and that rev V clash is from the back of the cap on the obv right next to the big hairline patch
Wow! Great dates. the 89 in AU 53 is quite a catch. i thought they net graded you too hard. 62 PL imo
Wow. Great coins!
Do you report to the grading service when you crack out a coin to fix the population stats?
Good question.
3 awesome pieces!
It would have been a good experiment to then send in the 1893-S in the NGC holder and see if it now crosses with PCGS.
How do you send such a valuable coin in for grading?
Such a big risk if there's any postage problem.
On the 1892 CC given a 61 from NGC...do you think that there was/is a reasonable chance (if similar or same coin) is resubmitted, that they would DETAILS the coin, saying "cleaned"? Thank you. Thumbs up!
I don’t think they would call it cleaned. I’ve seen coins with fine lines get called “scratches” before
@@TheCoinGeek Thank you
I think the 53 on the 89 is fair to more than fair. I wouldn't think of cracking that one.
The more I see Morgan's below MS60, the more capricious seems the grading. It is almost as if the date and mint skew the final grade of the coin. Is it true that XF50 means more if the next increment is measured in thousands rather than twenty or fifty, and is therefore less likely to be graded higher by another service. Or are we not supposed to notice that?
When I see a PCI Holder, my default is to give a shout out to Jeff at Heritage Auctions, and think about maybe slabbing Missile Command from my Atari 2600..
Does Heritage auction PCI holders or is that taboo?
There was a lot of old new stock that came out when some stores went under. These are specific titles that are FAR more common shrinked than they are even in the wild used.
If you look at PCGS site, they show an 1889 CC Morgan graded MS-68. But that has to be a mistake, correct? The coin looks worse than rough!
ngc gets lower money for a reason you just proved it with 93-s
Love these
O-BOY! CRACKOUT!
I need that 93S
That makes two of us.
CAC does not "sticker" coins anymore, do they?
Yes, they still sticker. I have a submission with them now. They will eventually phase out stickering as the CACG grading business gets established.
Great coins, I think that 89 cc is under graded.I would call it a 58.
Wow, I would have gone AU cleaned on the '89CC.The '92CC as you say comes from a year with a lot of PLs. The reverse looks the original grade, the obv. not so much with some possibly suspect central areas on bust (for rub)...That's why the 61PL. The 93S looked VF35ish so 40 was a go.
you struck gold!
Love it bro 🤘🏻
Question pls...Will NGC (only) cross PCGS? You'd said NGC won't cross ANACS...so therefore is it also true that NGS will not cross other (slabbed) coins? like SEGS/ICG/SGS/PCI et al? Thank you. Thumbs up!
NGC is only accepting PCGS coins for crossovers.
@@thesilveraura2177 Thank you
1889 cc is sold?
Crack the AU graded coin to challenge MS61.
I had a PL candidate come back Altered Surfaces.
Could these be the three nicest coins you've ever shown?
PCGS is almost infamous for not crossing over perfectly fine ngc coins. 🤨
Cac will downgrade it.
big balls something i wouldnt try
The issue with grading is too many variables and human error. Resubmit the same coin 3 times and I bet you will get there different grades pending on the graders mood that day. I do understand the "grade" mentality but at the same time despise it. It's far from consistent imo.
I don't care what anyone says, that 92 is minimum 62, should be 63 even 63 plus. In my opinion they grade the more rare dates much much harsher. Maybe to preserve the already graded ones, or who knows. That coin is not a 61 PL. That is higher. Lousy lousy coin graders.
So, ANACs and NGC grade coins the same and the opinions that somehow NGC and PCGS are better are nonsense.
ANACS has different graders and standards from their "soapbox" era slabs like the one shown here compared to present day. Most of their soapbox holders crossover for the same grade or higher. Right now those soapbox holders are becoming more collectible.
Last week convenience store find: 1881 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR COIN VAM - 6, DDO, MISALIGNED DIE, DATE OVER DATE. I've been trying to get you to see it with no avail 😔🪙