@@williamference9221 what’s interesting is the reason why Dark and Bright Might don’t work during this fight is because once the Lucifer fight starts the moon phase is secretly set to 1/8.
DEADPOOL9AND Actually, Apocalypse straight up admits that the Lucifer in IV and that game isn't the real one. It's just one half of Satan carrying on an endless proxy battle for YHVH...
Metatron is assisting the Demi-Fiend to defeat Lucifer... But if Demi-Fiend wins then Lucifer's plan to give rise to a new Demon of Chaos was successful... ...How ironic.
"Dear god I'm coming to get you." -sincerely, your faithful and currently disgruntled demon overlord abomination who pwned everyone important, including dante, the son of sparda, -demi-fiend.
+TheBrilliantAndAmazingGamer Dear Demi-Fiend I'll be glad to meet you in person, for it will be the perfect opportunity to show all existence the hopelessness of defying the Great Will of the Universe. -God. P.S. I think you should know that the next time someone joins Lucifer he will become an ugly tumor on his arm.
"Dear god. Bitch you got owned by a human in smtII, the hell you think you're gonna do against me?!" sincerely -Demi Fiend, the guy who kicked dante's ass...probably. hey dante? you were holding back right?
Lucifer has the most badass attack animation in any video game. No super-flashy anime bullshit. No. HE JUST FUCKING GLANCES AT YOU, AND SLOWLY POINTS AT YOU, SELECTING YOU AS TRIBUTE. And then you fucking die. That's fucking terrifying.
Fitting that Freikugel ends the fight. And it's quite funny that you can level up PAST Lv.99, but the game just doesn't make the Level number go up. XD
The world of Nocturne is dead. You killed Kagatsuchi, creation can no longer occur in it. There are still infinite worlds that are all connected due to the amala network though. The DF in DDS is just a memory from the network
If you keep the original Pixie you obtain at the very beginning of the game, and never "Part With" the demons that the Pixie fuses with, then in the 5th Kalpa there's a door that only lets you pass if you have that demon. Once inside, that demon transforms into a level 80 Pixie with all of the dyne spells, Megidolaon, Mediarahan, Samarecarm and all stats at 30.
You can fuse the Lilim, too: like I said, just make sure that the demons that result from any fusion with a demon that had that Pixie in its fusion history never get removed from your party. That demon should stay at the top of your list, so it should be easy to tell which one it is. Keep in mind though, if you want that Pixie you're going to have to go for the True Demon Ending. For that, you need to fight all of the fiends and get into the 5th Kalpa.
I just realized, this is basically the same fight as Metatron: *God's strongest angels *Same "come at me bro" stance *Damage resistance against everything (50% for Metatron, 75% for Louis) *mostly attack with full-party Almighty spells
@sora412zx It's an indication that the "Pierce" skill has activated. It activates when an enemy normally resists, nulls or absorbs your physical attacks, and bypasses it to inflict full damage. Without this skill, Lucifer only takes 25% damage from all attacks since he resists everything, even "Almighty" damage!
@UdtheImp STUPID CRITICAL HITS!!! DX He's using Root of Evil more frequently. We're getting close to beating him.... DUDE.......YOU JUST BEAT THE DEVIL!!! :D And everyone OTHER than Pixie levels up! Metatron nearly had a double! :D
@XDragon097 Well, DDS1 took place inside digital world of programs and information. Hitoshura was probably a moderator or simply hacked in. Players simply fought his avatar while he was hunting noobs.
What a great battle, reminds of earlier years... Once, I unwillingly delivered him the killing blow with a non-piercing Shiva's avenge :D I need to get my ps2 back...
I didn't realize that completely destroying creation allowed for creation to still take place... I'm not quite sure what you're trying to imply with the reincarnation thing, but regardless the Hitoshura that's faced in Avatar Tuner isn't the actual Hitoshura: it's a figment; a shadow; a memory, and probably best viewed as a cameo unless stated otherwise.
Wow... I know that Luifer was powerful, but not THAT powerful, and yet you made it cakewalk. There's only one thing that surprises me, that was when Luifer died, and also getting experience from a final boss? O_o Wow... (Poor Pixie didn't make it T_T) Damn... Everyone on your team is freaking scary. Everyone has nearly maxed out, Metatron knows Prayer, (figures) everyone can learn Pierce, you've burst the level limit. This team is scary...
Yeah: you can continue to fuse it with other demons, and have it evolve, just as long as you never "part with" the resulting demons from the fusion. So, don't part with any demons if you want to be on the safe side! Also, there's a side quest in which you're asked to give a demon to someone so they can dig a hole. Make sure you don't give your oldest demon to him. And I checked the Pixie on my file: She has Maziodyne, Megidolaon, Mediarahan, Samerecarm, and Endure.
Of course, you still have to remember that in Devil Survivor, you're just a bunch of humans with 3DS's that can summon demons. Demi-Fiend don't need any fancy devices to summon demons.
You're right I was thinking of Doom Dragon. Fusion Dragon uses Outer Space. They both spam there respective moves when they get low though, so it's still the same concept, but thanks for pointing that out for me.
only thing that carries over is the demon list and the extra press turns from the burial tombs if you did it. Note though if you get 100% on the demon list I believe you get a huge discount on all future summons from it
@ShadowBaofu He's playing on Normal though, so nothing Lucifer can do is really nasty anyway. On Hard mode Lucifer can kill a 999 HP MC in one round by using Root of Evil and then a regular attack (it's almighty and almost always criticals on Hard)
I think if you buff yourself and debuff the boss more than 4 times(max), the boss will cast dekaja and dekunda. That's what I learned from Strange Journey :o
Not the hardest final boss ever, but still challenging if you don't have Pierce on everyone. It would have been a whole different ball game though if they gave Lucifer something like Dragon Eye and had him cast Dekaja/Dekunda every turn you buffed or debuffed. Now THAT would be a small nightmare.
First time fight this boss, i finish sidequest but didn't know about pierce ability and took almost 2 hourse to win this fight. Second run with pierce and get all my frontline demon with pierce it just took 15 minutes. Demifiend is too op if you know how to use him.
Time for the TRUE final battle..... Did that snake just say "Ramadan".....? o_O WHOA!! Heh. The Moon Phase counter says its dead. LOL XD Oh crap. OW!! DX Pierced? What does THAT mean? High King? What is he....? HOLY CRAP!!! Prominence? WHOA!! Good thing it wasn't as damaging as the previous attack. He can HEAL?! Though luckily it ain't much... Root of Evil? HOLY S***!!! Oh crap, NOT AGAIN!!! Thank GODS you brought along some extra items! :D
@UdtheImp Read 'Paradise Lost'. I understand that it is one person's quite fictional interpretation of what's being discussed, but I think it's a very good one. And it coincides with your own.
As great of a final boss battle this was, I don’t see the True Demon Route as a possible canon ending anymore, being that if the world is dead and the angels and demons are gonna have their “final” battle, why would SMTIV exist? Naturally it would of made sense if this was the last game. Plus isn’t the point of being a Messiah to follow neither Chaos or Law, but to pick your own path which is Neutral?
My comment was a year ago and after seeing the SMTV trailer I'm not too sure about what I said, being that Lucifer from this game talks about God being dead, so maybe this is the canon ending after all. Though I'm also not sure cuz the Diamond Realm is a thing in SMTIVA but idk if that's a canon thing or not. But it does seem fun with all the things about Demi-Fiend being shown.
@LumiereInfinity You just now realised LL was the most epic boss ever? He'll destroy any RPG set in front of him. Lots of hybrids and other games as well.
yup, not the hardest ulitmate boss, but a fun battle none the less, and it's more fufilling if you wing it with your MC doing the damage and the rest buffing/debuffing/healing. Makes sense that the MC would be the one to handle lucifer personally
@GiantPotato Kinda like what he does to me since I play on Hard. Really about halfway through the fight you just have to hope the AI roulette rolls in your favor while you strip off the last of his HP.
i haven't played dds2 yet but here's my guess: lucifer. since in nocturne lucifier is created when the old man and the little boy are both part of satan combine so i guess lucifier but idk completely. from a game perspective satan is more powerful
By the way, i like this kind of battle, even with stat maxed out is giving a fucking hard time to kill.I play Final fantasy x and serching some purifieng salt y lvl up too much than in the rest of the bosses i kill then in 2 or less hits o_O .It bored me like no other...But im traing to take on the nocturne now.Great video and sorry for the horrible english :D
i was lvl 87 when i attemted this, my team was thor,gabriel,bishamon, and trumpeter. i think he was an ok boss, wasnt so hard compared to some other turn based game bosses, like ffx-2 for example
Lucifer has Megidola
Pixie has Megidolaon.
C'mon Lucifer you're embarrassing yourself.
No: he’s holding back. MEGIDOLADYNE.
@@KrimzonFlygon1 WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT MEGIDOLADYNE HERE!!!
You know it's years after I beat this game and I just now noticed how on this fight the Kagutsuchi moon phase just says "dead"
This game
Derpahauntus You destroyed everything, did you expect the disco God to still exist?
@@apollyonnoctis1291
DISCO WILL NEVER DIEEEEEEE
It’s not just aesthetic. During the Lucifer fight, any effects based on the Kagutsuchi phase don’t work (i.e. Bright/Dark Might)
@@williamference9221 what’s interesting is the reason why Dark and Bright Might don’t work during this fight is because once the Lucifer fight starts the moon phase is secretly set to 1/8.
"Humph!"
"Haa!"
"Mmhmm!"
"Ramataa!"
"Mrooouugghh!"
"Humph!"
"Yrataah!"
"Mmhmm!"
"Ramataa!"
"Mrooouuuugh!"
"Mroooouuuugh!"
"Humph!"
Can't be more accurate
I actually respect this iteration of Lucifer (the SMT version overall).
too bad they fucked him up with 4
dbgfhjfh dfgsdd And then they made Apocalypse, with an even worse Lucifer. I hope the game isn't canon.
DEADPOOL9AND Actually, Apocalypse straight up admits that the Lucifer in IV and that game isn't the real one.
It's just one half of Satan carrying on an endless proxy battle for YHVH...
@@battlinjoe2592
Facts
@Juuza Amakusa only in that universe, in rest, Lucifer and Satan are different beings, take SMT II as an example.
Metatron is assisting the Demi-Fiend to defeat Lucifer... But if Demi-Fiend wins then Lucifer's plan to give rise to a new Demon of Chaos was successful...
...How ironic.
its not like metatrons wants to help
"Dear god
I'm coming to get you."
-sincerely, your faithful and currently disgruntled demon overlord abomination who pwned everyone important, including dante, the son of sparda,
-demi-fiend.
+TheBrilliantAndAmazingGamer Dear Demi-Fiend
I'll be glad to meet you in person, for it will be the perfect opportunity to show all existence the hopelessness of defying the Great Will of the Universe.
-God.
P.S. I think you should know that the next time someone joins Lucifer he will become an ugly tumor on his arm.
"Dear god.
Bitch you got owned by a human in smtII, the hell you think you're gonna do against me?!"
sincerely
-Demi Fiend, the guy who kicked dante's ass...probably. hey dante? you were holding back right?
TheBrilliantAndAmazingGamer Dante can't even use pierce. What good is he in the long run?
........
Lucifer has the most badass attack animation in any video game.
No super-flashy anime bullshit. No. HE JUST FUCKING GLANCES AT YOU, AND SLOWLY POINTS AT YOU, SELECTING YOU AS TRIBUTE. And then you fucking die.
That's fucking terrifying.
Megidola in this gamestage...
Fitting that Freikugel ends the fight.
And it's quite funny that you can level up PAST Lv.99, but the game just doesn't make the Level number go up. XD
The world of Nocturne is dead. You killed Kagatsuchi, creation can no longer occur in it. There are still infinite worlds that are all connected due to the amala network though. The DF in DDS is just a memory from the network
DogiTheWallcrusher There's nothing that implies this is the case. This all under the assumption that the fight is canon, of course.
@@manuelmateo3392 well it is called the TRUE demon ending
And the fact that the Kagutsuchi is Dead is the game’s way of saying that there is no going back and if you die, you die.
"The skill Victory Cry has been discarded."
What the fuq, lol
DEAD
I was stunned at Pixie's HP at 5:29.
This fight took me well over an hour.
Dude I'm watching this sox years after you posted and I SO wanna get into this game. I'll buy it on PSN as soon as I get a chance
If you keep the original Pixie you obtain at the very beginning of the game, and never "Part With" the demons that the Pixie fuses with, then in the 5th Kalpa there's a door that only lets you pass if you have that demon. Once inside, that demon transforms into a level 80 Pixie with all of the dyne spells, Megidolaon, Mediarahan, Samarecarm and all stats at 30.
I also like how Metatron basically shrugs and does a prayer right after Lucifer's attacks, completely undoing his progress.
He's like, "Bitch please!"
0:40 thats the most powerfull sneeze i have ever seen
@UdtheImp Pierce is an ability which allows a chracter to ignore all aspects of your enemy's defence and any of your moves will do 100% damage
You can fuse the Lilim, too: like I said, just make sure that the demons that result from any fusion with a demon that had that Pixie in its fusion history never get removed from your party. That demon should stay at the top of your list, so it should be easy to tell which one it is.
Keep in mind though, if you want that Pixie you're going to have to go for the True Demon Ending. For that, you need to fight all of the fiends and get into the 5th Kalpa.
I just realized, this is basically the same fight as Metatron:
*God's strongest angels
*Same "come at me bro" stance
*Damage resistance against everything (50% for Metatron, 75% for Louis)
*mostly attack with full-party Almighty spells
@sora412zx It's an indication that the "Pierce" skill has activated. It activates when an enemy normally resists, nulls or absorbs your physical attacks, and bypasses it to inflict full damage. Without this skill, Lucifer only takes 25% damage from all attacks since he resists everything, even "Almighty" damage!
@UdtheImp
STUPID CRITICAL HITS!!! DX
He's using Root of Evil more frequently. We're getting close to beating him....
DUDE.......YOU JUST BEAT THE DEVIL!!! :D And everyone OTHER than Pixie levels up! Metatron nearly had a double! :D
so you added debilitate and rakukaja on your uber pixie. did you add a passive as her 8th skill?
@XDragon097
Well, DDS1 took place inside digital world of programs and information. Hitoshura was probably a moderator or simply hacked in. Players simply fought his avatar while he was hunting noobs.
StasZL There's nothing that implies this is the case. This all under the assumption that the fight is canon, of course.
What a great battle, reminds of earlier years...
Once, I unwillingly delivered him the killing blow with a non-piercing Shiva's avenge :D
I need to get my ps2 back...
Noice
Fighting the Devil with a pixie is the coolest way to fight the Devil.
holy fuck. i need to get this game
I didn't realize that completely destroying creation allowed for creation to still take place...
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to imply with the reincarnation thing, but regardless the Hitoshura that's faced in Avatar Tuner isn't the actual Hitoshura: it's a figment; a shadow; a memory, and probably best viewed as a cameo unless stated otherwise.
...So I'm at Level 87 now. How long should it take for me to grind for this fight?
Wow... I know that Luifer was powerful, but not THAT powerful, and yet you made it cakewalk. There's only one thing that surprises me, that was when Luifer died, and also getting experience from a final boss? O_o Wow... (Poor Pixie didn't make it T_T)
Damn... Everyone on your team is freaking scary. Everyone has nearly maxed out, Metatron knows Prayer, (figures) everyone can learn Pierce, you've burst the level limit. This team is scary...
I'm sorry but what is Lilith saying every time she is about to attack?
Let me guess, you used the Grimekhala that has Pierce as fusion fodder, right?
@MellxDragonPrincess
i meant in a fight between the 2 bosses................
Yeah: you can continue to fuse it with other demons, and have it evolve, just as long as you never "part with" the resulting demons from the fusion. So, don't part with any demons if you want to be on the safe side!
Also, there's a side quest in which you're asked to give a demon to someone so they can dig a hole. Make sure you don't give your oldest demon to him.
And I checked the Pixie on my file: She has Maziodyne, Megidolaon, Mediarahan, Samerecarm, and Endure.
This Lucifer isn't as bad ass as the one in Devil Survivor Overclocked
the Lucifer from Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne and the Lucifer from Devil Survivor Overclocked are the same person...
but this one is easier than the one in Devil Survivor, henceforth, the Lucifer in Devil Survivor is more "badass"
Kai Kataro doesn't lucy get stronger after each game
He may be easier, but he's not weaker. Just goes to show how weak even the strongest seem to be in front of the Demi-fiend ;)
Of course, you still have to remember that in Devil Survivor, you're just a bunch of humans with 3DS's that can summon demons.
Demi-Fiend don't need any fancy devices to summon demons.
You're right I was thinking of Doom Dragon. Fusion Dragon uses Outer Space. They both spam there respective moves when they get low though, so it's still the same concept, but thanks for pointing that out for me.
@shimakouyou I think the level/skills that transfer to the new cycle are those in the compedium, it doesn´t matter what skill you discard.
only thing that carries over is the demon list and the extra press turns from the burial tombs if you did it. Note though if you get 100% on the demon list I believe you get a huge discount on all future summons from it
But the Pixie I have already evolved into High Pixie. can it still be a level 80 one?
@linzig32
Root of Evil does percentile damage, though I dont know if its off your max HP or not.
Actually, I'm not sure if it's ALL of the dyne skills, I know she definitely has Maziodyne.
No problem. Good luck!
Feel free to message me if you have any questions.
Oh My God they Killed The Moon! You Bastards D: !
@ShadowBaofu
He's playing on Normal though, so nothing Lucifer can do is really nasty anyway. On Hard mode Lucifer can kill a 999 HP MC in one round by using Root of Evil and then a regular attack (it's almighty and almost always criticals on Hard)
I think if you buff yourself and debuff the boss more than 4 times(max), the boss will cast dekaja and dekunda. That's what I learned from Strange Journey :o
I think its funny how the moon phase in the top left just says DEAD.
What is the moon phase in this game?
@@shibba2517 Yeah lol, more specifically, the Kagutsuchi phase
It's actually the kagetsuchi phase. The whole game is like only 12 hours before the recreation happens
satan or lucifer, who would win?
Not the hardest final boss ever, but still challenging if you don't have Pierce on everyone. It would have been a whole different ball game though if they gave Lucifer something like Dragon Eye and had him cast Dekaja/Dekunda every turn you buffed or debuffed. Now THAT would be a small nightmare.
First time fight this boss, i finish sidequest but didn't know about pierce ability and took almost 2 hourse to win this fight. Second run with pierce and get all my frontline demon with pierce it just took 15 minutes. Demifiend is too op if you know how to use him.
Time for the TRUE final battle.....
Did that snake just say "Ramadan".....? o_O
WHOA!!
Heh. The Moon Phase counter says its dead. LOL XD
Oh crap. OW!! DX
Pierced? What does THAT mean?
High King? What is he....? HOLY CRAP!!!
Prominence? WHOA!! Good thing it wasn't as damaging as the previous attack.
He can HEAL?! Though luckily it ain't much...
Root of Evil? HOLY S***!!!
Oh crap, NOT AGAIN!!!
Thank GODS you brought along some extra items! :D
@UdtheImp Read 'Paradise Lost'. I understand that it is one person's quite fictional interpretation of what's being discussed, but I think it's a very good one. And it coincides with your own.
As great of a final boss battle this was, I don’t see the True Demon Route as a possible canon ending anymore, being that if the world is dead and the angels and demons are gonna have their “final” battle, why would SMTIV exist? Naturally it would of made sense if this was the last game. Plus isn’t the point of being a Messiah to follow neither Chaos or Law, but to pick your own path which is Neutral?
late reply but SMT Nocturne and SMTIV are not connected.
My comment was a year ago and after seeing the SMTV trailer I'm not too sure about what I said, being that Lucifer from this game talks about God being dead, so maybe this is the canon ending after all. Though I'm also not sure cuz the Diamond Realm is a thing in SMTIVA but idk if that's a canon thing or not. But it does seem fun with all the things about Demi-Fiend being shown.
All endings are Canon.
MAN! You are mi f*ckin hero! I am having one hell on earth TRYING to beat lucifer in my Devil survivor and you made it look easy!
@LumiereInfinity You just now realised LL was the most epic boss ever? He'll destroy any RPG set in front of him. Lots of hybrids and other games as well.
and Still waiting walkthroughs of Shin Megami Tensei IV :p
did you get them by now
then maybe 2nd playthrough then, as I wanted to get the Neutral one first. Thanks for the info btw!
yup, not the hardest ulitmate boss, but a fun battle none the less, and it's more fufilling if you wing it with your MC doing the damage and the rest buffing/debuffing/healing. Makes sense that the MC would be the one to handle lucifer personally
wow root of evil ive never seen ll come so close to dying imagine this with your black forst titania daisojou team
@GiantPotato
Kinda like what he does to me since I play on Hard. Really about halfway through the fight you just have to hope the AI roulette rolls in your favor while you strip off the last of his HP.
i haven't played dds2 yet but here's my guess: lucifer. since in nocturne lucifier is created when the old man and the little boy are both part of satan combine so i guess lucifier but idk completely. from a game perspective satan is more powerful
I always thought Louis Cyphres child disguise looked a lot like Alice...
@evilanimegenious Satan and Lucifer are the same. Just 2 different names for the same guy.
Once again LL is lucky. Lucy did not spam High King twice or use Dekunda/High King for maximum damage. Root of Evil/High King is also nasty.
Look how huge metatron is compared to everyone else
THAT PIXIE.
THE FU*K?!
@Schwartzdying You forgot Satan, from DDS2 haha
I know that feel, man.
I know that feel.
if 2 people in your party knows pierce does everybody able to pierce through
I still don't understand why you gain xp for this battle.
how the hell i finish this game
Compared to DDS2 the Devil seems WAY more fearsome here
Kinda looks like VenomMyotismon.
Yo what's up with lilliths voice
Yeah, but the level resets and so does the money i believe.
He uses Megidolaon later in the fight.
By the way, i like this kind of battle, even with stat maxed out is giving a fucking hard time to kill.I play Final fantasy x and serching some purifieng salt y lvl up too much than in the rest of the bosses i kill then in 2 or less hits o_O .It bored me like no other...But im traing to take on the nocturne now.Great video and sorry for the horrible english :D
O_o so I'll just keep Lilim then, she was the first demon I fused Pixie into.
i was lvl 87 when i attemted this, my team was thor,gabriel,bishamon, and trumpeter. i think he was an ok boss, wasnt so hard compared to some other turn based game bosses, like ffx-2 for example
@evilanimegenious ohhhh lol my bad then.
They look so awkward except Demi fiend
PS: Lucifer is nothing but gigantic version of Loki
Yep.
yeah, and it sound like spanish, it say "lo han matado" in english it is they have killed him.
i'm looking forward to trinity universe
i wonder why you have such a weak phys skill like lunge on metatron
Masakados is op as fuck
i never liked dds1 but dds2 seems like a good game. though how is it that people perfer dds over nocturne? nocturne is such a better game
perhaps its the snake talking.
Then go play Golden Sun (an awesome GBA game) where Fusion Dragon Breaks all your boosts and then spams Cruel Ruin >_>
I killed the devil in 8 minutes.
Post-game stuff, and new-game+.
I always find Lucifer a bitch in every SMT game.
Like in Devil Survivor...HE'S Lv. 99 DAMMIT.
It's the super pixie
Wait, so Pixie can be re-fused at a higher level with much better stats and skills? Must get her back!
jajajajajajaja But Lucifer has Root of evil, that has to count... U.U jajajajajajaja
This Lucifer >>>>>>>> DCs lucifer
Facts
I find Lilim sexy I find Lillith scary....
lol at pixie
Im so copying that lilith :p
This ultimate boss was kinda weak...
Flynn Infinite If u want a real challenge try doing it without pierce lelelelel
Or doing a magic build