Israelis: Are Reform converts REAL Jews?
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Jew here!
All Jewish people have some form of convert in their blood line (rather patrilineal or matrilineal)
My old rabbi revealed that his great great great grandmother was a former catholic Italian woman who converted.
Even when you search in the Talmud, there’s stories of gentiles being converted, many of those gentiles lead up to us today.
Wasn't Sarah in the Torah a convert?
Neither of Moses wives were of Israel, Joseph’s wife was Egyptian, and the entire congregation that came out of Israel was a “mixed multitude.”
J-MO Judaism is the least racist religion and philosophy, and they turn it into what they want to.
Wolk Borz מה לעזאזל אתה מדבר על גוי התחת המטומטם שלך
@J-MO Moses ('alayhi salatu wa Salam) wife was Midianite. So sou could say she was an Arab. Palestinians who have mostly only been culturally Arabized have been denied the right of their own homes. I'm not taking it out on you but I thought that I should remind some of you that so that you reflect more and start seeing things from others points of views.
This is my favorite thing about Judaism. Anytime I see people try to portray a schism of ideology between reform, orthodox, and conservative it always ends like the way this video goes. Nobody has an issue with it, and anyone who does is in the minority. Even then, the grievance is so minor that it still doesn't bother them.
There was a great quote (that I'm going to paraphrase) about the unity of Jews through oppression. It was something like "when the anti-Semite calls for genocide, they don't say 'death to reform Jews' or death to 'orthodox Jews' they just say 'death to Jews' we need to stand together as Jews to fight against them"
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It warmed my heart to hear them all say "Yes" without any hesitation. If we could acknowledge each other's humanity with such ease, it would truly be a better world.
C Caymer I may be speaking out of line when in regards to this, my take on Yosef's statement was that the Ashkenazim were more inclusive, and less exclusive than the Rabbi's and it made him (and myself) all warm and fuzzy inside.
There is an issue underlying this, and the more orthodox the 'movement' the more 'exclusive' it becomes, where being Shomer Shabbos, or Shomer Negiah make you *more jewish* than a reform who is not Shomer Negiah. Even the custom among Lithuanian Chassidut they have their customs which they think are right, the Sephardit Chassidim have their Emunah as well. There is naught but division and discord, some can say it is due to the "Great Evil" of man when they have "One Language for All".
I went a little off the rails there, but I'm just saying, it was a heartwarming response them accepting not a NATIONALITY but the PERSON as being EQUAL with their IDENTITY (as it pertains to being a Jew).
Yosef Ben Avraham Just because you don't agree with the method of someone's conversion, it's doesn't mean you are denying their humanity
Olivier What do you mean?
Olivier That's a very deep philosophical question that you should ask a rabbi
Gasko Gaskovich It has nothing to do with race, there are plenty of Jews who come from all sorts of different backgrounds. It has to do with who you are as a person and how devoted/determined you are to converting. Everything you just said is false considering there is no factual basis to make the claim that judaism is inherently racist and also every religion has racist extremists. The christians have the westboro baptist church, radical muslims see "infidels" and sometimes even muslims from other countries/regions as inferior, etc.
My wife is Jewish and I'm considering converting. Thank you for this information.
@Fergus Coullenn lol poor idiot Sikh
If you convert then to me you will be Jewish. Don’t worry about how they think it’s only their opinion not fact
Don’t lose Jesus ❤️
Mazel tov!!!
This video is only being asked of ignorant, secular Israelis. I can tell you that if you decide to convert, you must do it the way mandated according to jewish law. According to Judaism, jewish law is according to God through Moses, through the prophets and finally the Rabbis...not the rabbis of your local synagogue, but of the Rabbis of the Mishnaic era who transmitted the Oral Law until what it is today. The point is, according to Judaism, this all from God, passed down from teacher to student until today. If you really believe this is from God, and by definition therefore perfect and unchangeable, you will not deviate, and must do orthodox conversion. Reform is man made and is only 200 years old. They don't follow anything. If you go that route, then you really have done nothing.
I underwent a Reform conversion in 2019. I keep Shabbat, studying Torah, wearing kippah, tzitzit, pray three times a day, blessing food and drink etc. But an Orthodox lady who is secular told me I’m not Jewish. Yikes.
She's an asshole. Welcome to the Tribe brother. It's between you and G-d. People like her don't get a say.
@ANT BANKS how do you mean? Any jew (reform, conservative, orthodox) whether a convert or not, can use the law of return to become an Israeli citizen.
Your a Jew
Simple as that don’t let anyone say different and if you feel a Jew in your heart that’s all that matters not an opinion of someone ignorant to Judaism even though there orthodox
Tertius Carstens you have to ignore Orthodox Jews who think only Orthodoxy is legitimate. Talk to your rabbi about this. Unfortunately there is still this strong tribal mentality.
"Grumpy old Ashkenazis" lol
You called?
C caymer The woman with the red hair reminded me of George Costanza ‘s mom (Estelle)
lol they act they are realy decendant of jacob .. lol poor ashkenazi sefardi people ! they lied to you !
What you
2:50 Joey Merlino.
This really made my day. Thank you.
I liked most of their answers. They seemed very welcoming and open minded. That was nice.
Wow I like the hardball question, "What are reform converts not doing according to halacha?"
C caymer you’re right
That's easy, theyre not guarding/keeping the mitzvot so why should they join the tribe?
Torah Muscle but then most born Jews don’t keep the mitzvot so is it fair to expect a Jew by Choice to?
@Torah Muscle Un ebreo sa benissimo che non tutte le 613 mitvot sono applicabili. Del resto Maimonide è vissuto nel medio evo, io credo, invece, che non abbia senso logico essere ultraortodossi, ma lascio libertà di scelta. L'ortodossia non credo che sia l'unica strada per onorare e arrivare ad Hashem.
Favel Konefka. are you Jewish?
I am not a Jew according Halacha. My mom converted to Reform Judaism. It doesn’t bother me, though. There is no Rabbi or human on this earth that can choose or speak for G-d. Love to everyone, and love to all the kinds of Jewish people out there.
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Is there anything in the bible that says someone can't convert or if they do they have to do it through the orthodox for it to be legally binding? I bet there isn't and these are just man made rules.
@@joannegreenhowe3380 The Hebrew Bible (Torah) says that anyone can convert, but they must be sincere. There’s an entire story in the Bible about a woman named Ruth, who converted to ancient Judaism. The Judaism of today is called “Rabbinic Judaism,” because after the temple’s destruction in 70 AD, the “Rabbis” were the surviving Jewish scholars who kept the oral and written traditions/rituals alive. Since there were so many oral traditions and laws to remember, and not so many Jews left alive, the Rabbis were forced to write down the traditions that had been passed down orally for centuries. And that’s why the orthodox view is so important to so many people.
I see, but there is nothing in the bible that says they are not Jewish if they don't convert the orthodox way. It seems to be that most prefer it. It also seems very difficult to become Jewish so I would imagine people would be very serious. Thank you for your explanation.
@@joannegreenhowe3380Except that if someone isn't committing to keeping Shabbos, Kosher, and Family Purity, then there's no meaning to their conversion because they're not even planning to be religious. Judaism isn't just a game or fun idea. A person has to be serious about keeping the Mitzvos if they want to join.
Thank you for asking these questions
So happy with these good answers
This is really heart warming to see
I liked this video very much. My brother-in-law and his family converted to Reform Judaism by choice. I think they know more about being a Jew than I do (and I was born one).
That doesnt say a lot about you!
Why can't some Gentiles know more about being a Jew than some Jews? Your brother-in-law may not be Jewish but I assume his wife, your sister, is Jewish and her children are Jewish.... Or your brother is gay and Jewish. Or neither your sister nor brother are Jewish. But sorry to be so ghetto (or as bread-loving Jews say in the Italian ghetto... baghetto) but your in-law ain't a Jew.
Knowing about Judaism has nothing to do with being Jewish. Its a spiritual state not an intellectual state.
“We don’t know enough about this.”
“This is not my area so I’m not going to answer nonsensically.”
So refreshing to hear. I try to be so honest about my ignorance instead of making it worse
Grumpy old Ashkenazi were the absolute best! Love their attitude :-)
Yes they were very cool. Loved them. Not "grumpy" at all.
I love how the language sounds from those high school students. It sounds very pleasant and soft.
they are russian.
Dan Peterozki
Are you stupid? There were two Ethiopian jewish girls, and just one Russian girl with harsh accent, and the rest most likey to be Mizhrahi.
The two black girls are Russian? Interesting /s
Hebrew language is ugly as fuck lol
R. K. Vis the one looks kinda like Shia Labeouf
This was wonderful to hear. I converted through the conservative movement and I still get a hard time by some people about it and it’s been over 25 years
If you know you are a Jew, then you are a Jew. The opinions of others mean nothing. I was born a Jew. My wife converted Conservative. Both my wife and daughter are Jews.
Thata their sin, dont let it bother you...
Ps.
God had no denomination.
Because youre not jewish....
How would how many years matter. If u ask an orthodox person u r not jewish. U would of been explained this when u started
@@anonymousanonymous-qx7mv you have the right to your own opinion, but if your goal is to hurt some one, keep it to yourself plz
I moved to Israel because I feel in love with an a Israeli. Sadly, I left because I felt different and at a handicap through interactions with certain sections of society due to not being a Jew. My friend reformed after her 2 year process, she says it's still difficult but it had changed. It's not fair to past judgement during the start of her journey and I'm sure she will be accepted. I miss and love these people/place so much.
Who made you feel different?
Why didn't you convert?
@@ryansheridan7592 If someone is not compelled to convert, they should not.
Such a tense topic, wrought with complication... while the video leaves an overall impression that Israelis are very liberal/open-minded, you can definitely catch the tension with many of the respondents (esp. that guy who refused to answer and literally darted away!). It'd be interesting to see an American version of this.
yep, it's completely unrepresentative of what Israelis believe
The woman at 2:59 spoke... it was heart warming.
Yes she was so sweet
Sounds like a total fustercluck and a mishmash, but Corey, you're doing a great job with all these videos.
Good answers.
I love how relaxed and happy the kids were.
4:28 when your teacher asks you to solve a tough question
As a convert, this video makes me very happy! 🥰
Hannah let any feelings of less than connected vanish. You're simply a Jew and our sister.
I have a question after this. I believe if you're happy with it then that's all that matters. I wonder, if someone is born jewish, can he/she choose not to be a jew? If there is a way in for non-jewish by birth to be one, then there must be a way out, right? Just curious, happiness is what matters in the end
you're valid and don't let anyone say otherwise
@@nakshatra1402 according to jews if ur mother is jewish we will always consider you 100% jewish no matter what. Converts can get out though seeing to convert u have to accept the 613 laws. Stop being religious and the convert is not jewish
@@goldengun9970 actually, i’ve read that jews-by choice are still jewish even if they choose to consider them not jewish anymore. in their eyes, they might not be jewish but in the eyes of Hashem, they are jewish people who are breaking the mitzvot (bc i’m assuming they stopped following them after considering themselves non-jews)
You make it so hard for these guys. Damn.
This is a very difficult question since there's so much variation in Reform Judaism. Some Reform congregations in the US allow conversion with almost no knowledge of Jewish tradition, no bris and no mikveh. Whereas Reform in the UK requires all of the above and is much closer to Orthodox conversion standards.
Deo Gratias Anglia; my mother converted to Reform Judaism in the US. She studied for two years. She had a mikveh. She stood in front of 3 Rabbis & answered multiple questions on Judaism & did wonderfully. 16 years later she is still very glad she is a Jew & a supporter of her synagogue.
I’m considering converting to Reform Judaism in the UK (currently at the intensive research stage of the process) and from what I’ve learned so far, indeed these stages of the conversion process are necessary.
@@bb1111116 Nevertheless, like Deo Gratias said, the standards for Reform conversion are not uniform , and in any case, they would still always be unacceptable to Orthodox, whether there is mikveh or not. Conservative US conversions are nearly the same as Modern Orthodox, they are also still not accepted.
Personally I am from an Orthodox upbringing, I accept everybody and try to treat them the way I wish I was treated. However, although I'm no longer religious or observant, if and when I go to synagogue, I am only comfortable in an Orthodox synagogue and with an Orthodox minyan, for example, if I say kaddish for my father I want a minyan of 10 men above 13 (no ladies), who were either born Jewish or had an Orthodox conversion. But I am not Orthodox or even a believer in anything. Sounds paradoxical, I guess. Despite all this, to my mind, we have to get rid of the government interference in religious issues in Israel, allow civil marriages nd leave it up to people what kind of conversion they want (if any). It's a personal matter, I can accept a Reform Jew who is a convert or the child of a converted mother as a fellow Jew, but I also don't want to be art of the same synagogue community as them *IF* I go to synagogue (which I haven't done in a while).
@@guywhousesapseudonymonyout4272 ; Deo Gratias Anglia made a false dichotomy between the US and the UK. Implying that only in the UK does Reform conversion include more Jewish traditions.
Nowhere in the post written by Deo Gratias Anglia does it state that Reform Jewish conversion in the US can be more traditional. That was the issue I was questioning by using the facts about my mother.
However, nowhere in my post does it state that less traditional conversions don’t exist in US Reform Judaism. I have read online that's such less traditional conversions do exist.
Second, it is true that Reform and Conservative conversions are not recognized as Orthodox by Orthodox Rabbis in the US in my experience.
However, Chabad, which is Orthodox, does recognize Reform converts as placing them within the greater Jewish community. In my area Chabad welcomes all Reform Jews to Chabad worship services.
- Now to your point, of course for a Reform Jew to be fully part of the Chabad community, a person born as a Jew would need to accept and practice the Orthodox way of life. And a possible new member of Chabad, who was a convert to Reform or Conservative Judaism, would have to have an Orthodox conversion.
The synagogue I attended is strict with many things and it's considered reform
What a beautiful language and beautiful people
I’m a Reform convert. I have Ashkenazi heritage but Judaism has never been practiced. As a convert (or revert, I suppose), I am no less Jewish.
I keep Shabbat. I keep kosher. I wear a kippah.
Why not an Orthodox conversion? Return to the true denomination of Judaism.
Reform is just it's own faith at this point. They do not keep the Halacha and disregard the Torah as non binding.
If you converted to the reform branch, then you are not halakhically Jewish. You need a proper, kosher conversion by an Orthodox beit din.
You may keep Shabbat and kosher and wear a yarmulke, but you are still not Jewish regardless.
@@cxarhomell5867 stay mad. I couldn’t convert orthodox because I was adopted and didn’t have paper trail proof that my biological mom was Jewish.
@@claudmastr I am not mad but I'm staying completely vigilant in what I say.
So you couldn't convert to Orthodoxy solely because you were adopted and that you did not have proof that you were Jewish by matrilineal descent?
I hope you realize converting is an answer to not having a Jewish mother, correct?
I hope you're prepares, though. Lol.
@@claudmastr Seriously, either you convert properly by an Orthodox beit din, or you are not Jewish. Not by the Halacha, which is so important in Judaism.
Motivating
Very intresting
It must be awesome to be able to speak both the native Jewish language and English as fluently as you do
It's called "Hebrew", my dear friend. Shalom!
Technically, "Jewish language" is actually "Yiddish" (Yiddish=Jewish).
Latin is not the language of Latin America.
Also millions of eastern Jews never spoke Yiddish.
Bolter21
Technically, practically and historically the only language of Jewish people is Hebrew, from the time immemorial.
Corey is boss
Any chance you can ask Jews about atheism, you did a segment on what Arab Muslims think. It would be good to see the contrast between the two communities.
I'm an atheist Israeli Jew, and if you ask me I'd tell you that atheism is paradoxically as much a core foundation of Jewish culture as is the religion associated to our people. From our Hellenist past, to Spinoza many centuries ago, and beyond. From our [religious] Talmudic studies since the Babylonian exile, leading to a dialectical anthology made by skeptical inquiry, to the traditional methods of learning for children in Jewish culture with concepts like 'havruta' and 'pilpul'.. Atheism/agnosticism etc. is an inevitable step in the narrative of the Jewish people, with atheistic/skeptical thinking being embedded in our culture for millennia, and atheism itself has been part of our culture for centuries.
..along with the more conventional, tangible Jewish cultural practices such as of nature's life cycles with the Festival of the Ingathering ('chag haasif' which is actually a celebration joyful festival of rest/holiday rather than a typical harvest festival; the threshing, winnowing & milling of harvested grain was done by people living in huts, sukkot, next to the harvest to have it processed before the first autumn rain), the New Year of the Trees, the Lag B'Omer counting the days to the end of the Spring barley harvest at 'Shavuot' to the beginning of the Summer wheat harvest. etc. etc. Virtually all Jewish cultural practices are associated to plants, calendar cycles, crops etc that we had in Israel only. In Hebrew we even have separate words for "the first rain", "the last rain", and different words for the word 'harvest' of different plants like for olives, grain, grapes, etc.
interestingyoutubechannel I appreciate the input, i have spoken with Israeli Jews who deem themselves to be religious and don't believe in a god, I found that baffling (although i plead ignorance in being unfamiliar with Jewish religious text) I thought that maybe it tied into their history and culture, now i have the answer.
Atheism and agnosticism are very common amongst Jews by birth, but I understand you have to demonstrate belief in God for orthodox, conservative and reform conversion. If you don't believe in God what is the purpose of converting anyway?
That's why you usually say "observant" or just traditional instead of religious.
Only if it's relevant. I'd say on most occasions people just say they are Jewish. As somone says in the video, it's a personal matter. Unless, of course, you are preparing food. Safest bet is not to make meat/poultry.
I was born and grew up in a catholic religion but ever since my teens I stopped attending church and follow the religion strictly, however in recent years I’ve grown fond and felt a lot closer to Judaism and read books and try to learn and implement the traditions although none knows other than me and God.
And now people on TH-cam...
There's a lady on TH-cam who converted from Catholicism to Judaism. You might be interested in her channel.
She calls her channel Jar of Fireflies.
same but the difference is my dad is jewish and my mom is catholic
Zionism > Judaism. If you want to be part of the tribe and pin your future to the Jewish people that's enough. Jews arguing over Reform, Orthodox, Karaite, Atheists, Ethiopian, Polish, Persian, etc... They are all Jews. Once you accept that then it's just a friendly family debate of what is required, but does not change the fact they are Jews. I am half Italian and half Jewish. Proud Zionist.
Amos 9:7-8,11-12,14-15
[7]Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?
[8]Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
[11]In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
[12]That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
[14]And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
[15]And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
Isaiah 34:5-6,8,16
[5]For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
[6]The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
[8]For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
[16]Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Amos 3:2
[2]You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
Deuteronomy 32:26
[26]I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:
Deuteronomy 28:48-50
[48]Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
[49]The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
[50]A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
Deuteronomy 28:64-68
[64]And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
[65]And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
[66]And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
[67]In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
[68]And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
I am trying to find a Conservative rabbi in my locality, to undergo conversion in the Conservative sect of judaism. I have started to keep all the mitzvot and sabbath, and I will start learning hebrew soon.
May I be worthy of HaShem.
Wish me luck guys!
Most conservative jews are not observant of jewish laws. The conversion is not worth the paper it would be written on.
I hope this saves you a bit of trouble.
There is already a problem. A non Jew is not allowed to keep shabbat
@@meirttI find that very sad. Most Jews who convert seem to be more religions than those born into the religion.
The Seven Laws of Noah also referred to as the Noahide Laws or theNoachide Laws (from the English transliteration of the Hebrew pronunciation of "Noah"), are a set of imperatives which, according to the Talmud, were given by God [1] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" - that is, all of humanity.[2][3]
Accordingly, any non-Jew who adheres to these laws because they were given by Moses[4] is regarded as a righteous gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come the final reward of the righteous.[5][6]
The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:[7]
1. Do not deny God.
2. Do not blaspheme God.
3. Do not murder.
4. Do not steal.
5. Do not eat from a live animal.
6. Establish courts/legal system to ensure obedience to said laws.
What if you asked that question someone outside of Tel Aviv ? What do you think the answers would be ?
@Adam yeah he should ask this is Bnei Brak
From this video can anyone tell who are the Ashkenazim and who are the Sephardim/Mizrachim? Nice to see the Ethiopim mixing in with the students. Who would think this is a society allegedly torn apart by ethnicity?
1) The man looks Mizrahi, the woman looks either Ashkenazi or mixed
2) The adult men and women look both Ashkenazi and Mizrahi
3) The guy looks like Russian Jew (which is Ashkenazi), but he might also look like a Mizrahi
4) I can't determine how he looks like, might be Mizrahi
5) The adult man looks Mizrahi
6) The guy looks Mizrahi or mixed
7) The woman looks either Ashkenazi or mixed
8) In those kids some looked Mizrahi or mixed and there were two Ethiopians.
9) The woman looks Mizrahi
10) The man looks Mizrahi
There is a strong possibility I got them all wrong. I look completely Ashkenazi, but I am 3/4 Saphardi, where my mother's side is from the Middle East.
I think you need to be a racist to pretend you can tell the difference.
You can often spot Palestinian women by the way they dress, less so for Palestinian men.
Mark Simons Well, I can't tell the difference between Druze Arabs and other Arabs, as Druze Arabs don't consider themselves as Palestinians, so you can't really tell if someone is Palestinian or just Druze Arab.
Also many Christian Arab woman look like Mizrahi Jews. I once fell in love with an Arab woman without knowing she was Arab (Although it didn't matter much).
So as I said, I might be wrong at all, as I said, I look Ashkenazi, but I am only 1/4 Ashkenazi (While my family looks completely Mizrahi).
zyzz k. The term is "Mizrahi Jews" and they call themselves Mizrahi insteed of "Arab" because they were in these lands before teh Arabs came.
zyzz k. Well it is different with Jews becuase Jews left an Arab place to a Jewish place, so in a Jewish place they will identify as Jews rather than Arabs.
The difference between Orthodox and Reform Jews is that Reform Jews park their cars outside the Synagogue, whilst Orthodox Jews park around the corner and pretend that they walked. A Cantor told me that ;)
לשון הרע
I am a Christian and I love Judaism. And you are very funny...lol
You lost your damn mind man...
@C caymer I know plenty of Orthodox Jews who park around the corner. To the extent that the people in the houses complain to the shul on High Holy Days that they can't walk on the pavement outside their own homes!
I have no problem calling a Reform Convert a Jew - however there should be clear requirements for studying and involvement. Since the Reform movement makes all the mitzvot optional (as far as I know), it is not clear to me what is a Reform convert expected to learn, and what mitzvot is he or she expected to adhere to. If the conversion is relatively easy and does not require a person to undergo much learning or other involvement, it is not clear to me how many people would do it just for the right to immigrate to Israel purely for economic reasons, rather than due to a sincere interest in Judaism.
Will you make a video asking about Karaites?
Reform Judaism (also known as Liberal Judaism or Progressive Judaism) is a major Jewish denomination that emphasizes the evolving nature of the faith, the superiority of its ethical aspects to the ceremonial ones, and a belief in a continuous revelation not centered on the theophany at Mount Sinai.
A liberal strand of Judaism, it is characterized by a lesser stress on ritual and personal observance, regarding Jewish Law as non-binding and the individual Jew as autonomous, and openness to external influences and progressive values.
The origins of Reform Judaism lay in 19th-century Germany, where its early principles were formulated by Rabbi Abraham Geiger and his associates; since the 1970s, the movement adopted a policy of inclusiveness and acceptance, inviting as many as possible to partake in its communities, rather than strict theoretical clarity.
Its greatest center today is in North America.
The various regional branches sharing these beliefs, including the American Union for Reform Judaism (URJ), the Movement for Reform Judaism (MRJ) and Liberal Judaism in Britain, and the Israel Movement for Reform and Progressive Judaism, are all united within the international World Union for Progressive Judaism.
Founded in 1926, the WUPJ estimates it represents at least 1.8 million people in 50 countries: close to a million registered adult congregants as well as numerous unaffiliated individuals who identify with it.
It’s trash. If you’re Jewish and don’t keep the Shabbat , you’re considered an idol worshiper
@@ED-LETRICAL First, you are not even Jewish, "Eddie Perez". Second, many Israelis are 100% secular (including some founders of the State) and they are certainly not "idol worshipers"
Top Mog a person that does not keep the Shabbat, does not really believe in god.
These people believe in their own lifestyle.
The worship themselves.
@@ED-LETRICAL LOL so, according to you, most Israelis are "idol worshipers" because most of them are secular.
Yeah the fools think they can change whatever rules they like. Reform is a scurge and your converts are not jewish.
hahaha, I loved the old grumpy ashkenazim! they are my favorites Jews! people that build Israel who knew how to separate the state from the religion, cultural and open minded people! grumpy but still my cup of tea!
I stand with you on this one! I love them!
Estefanny Teiger
They're not Ashkenazi, most likey to be middle eastren. Omg Americans always twist everything. Not everyone here is Ashkenazi. Ugh
He is probably Iraqi.
liam Zeneva
Nor is everybody not Askenazy.
@@Visualsgenevas Middle Eastern as in European Middle Eastern? isn't it correct that all European Jews are considered Ashkenazi?
It pains me to see this sometimes, I don’t agree with everything about the reform but the smug smile of the orthodox and their stance really bothers me. These are the same individuals that feel satisfaction in depriving other Jews of their identity
@@alexrocks4669 they are jews by born I mean their mothers are jews
Great Thanks to the last speaker who said the most important is that his daughters will be happy never mind their choice. How many religious (not only Jewish) can sincerely say that? Considering mixity as crime is the first step of racism.
I think you invented a word, but I like it: "mixity".
Oh and I also agree with your comment, very true.
that orthodox lady is wearing a tank top?
MR Farina
She is NOT Orthodox
She may have been born to religious parents
But religious Jewish women do not walk around in tank tops
I've been to Israel almost 8yrs ago. It can get really hot there. Also, I come from a Modern Orthodox family, not all people who identify follow the modesty rules to a T.
Haha
Lisbeth Eleanor
Whose to says she's not Orthodox? Some are lax in certain areas but keep everything else.
I know a pretty young girl who walks around in very sexy clothes- like tank tops, short shorts, jeggings and whatnot but she keeps absolutely everything else: kashrut, Shabbat, holidays, prays every day. Everything.
Who are you to judge?
@Chochito Cortez She didn't say she wanted to marry an Orthodox rabbi, but she wanted to be married *BY* an Orthodox rabbi and in Israel that's the only official option if you are Jewish. Her mother is a non-Jewish Frenchwoman so by halakha she wasn't Jewish, she apparently wanted to fit in more at one point. I think if Israel allowed civil marriage, then fewer people would seek Orthodox conversions for misguided reasons like the desire to be married under a huppah by the Orthodox rabbanut and to be listed as Jewish without anyone questioning it. I don't know if she wat one time believed in Orthodox Judaism or not and really wanted to lead an Orthodox Jewish lifestyle, keeping Shabbat, kashrut, etc. Maybe she did at one point, maybe she didn't. But unfortunately many people go through the motions of converting to Orthodox Judaism because they want a marriage by the rabbanut and then the Orthodox lifestyle becomes too hard for them. They should only go through with it if they really are committed to living that lifestyle. If non-Orthodox marriages were available, fewer people would convert for reasons of marriage,
Good for you Corey!....I also have a problem with feminine you. One of the grammatical things in Hebrew and Arabic that's so different from Indo-European languages. 3rd person feminine is more straightforward though still a pain for English speakers, especially since we dropped nearly all feminine nouns (actress, aviatrix, sculptress etc).
Gosh! In UK there there haven't been any actresses for years.
@@marksimons8861 Helen Mirren and Judi Dench aren't actresses?!
being an orthodox concert myself it was very interesting to hear from the French convert who at the time thought she'd marry an orthodox rabbi and has since changed her views. if liked to hear more from converts in Israel.
She didn''t say she wanted to get married *to* an Orthodox rabbi she said she wanted to be married *by* an Orthodox rabbi. The translation was unclear, and it said "get married with an Orthodox rabbi" and it looks like a few other people in the comments understood it the way you did. But in Hebrew it's more clear, she says "az hHashavti she ratziti le'hitHhaten ba-Rabbanut" , which means "I thought then that I wanted to get married by the Rabbinate" (which in Israel is only Orthodox).. The issue in Israel you can't have a secular, civil marriage in Israel or non-Orthodox marriage if you are Jewish. She wasn't French, from, what she said (and from her accent in Hebrew which was perfectly native Israeli Hebrew) it is her mother who is a French non-Jew who never had a conversion to Judaism. (Presumably her father is Jewish, either a French Jew who married a non-Jewish woman and then came to Israel or an Israeli native or long-term resident who married a non-Jewish Frenchwoman.) Anyway, as I'm sure you are aware, since only her father is Jewish by halakha she wasn't Jewish and she wanted to fit in, this is how I understood it. Since you went through the process of Orthodox conversion I am sure you know how hard it is, but the problem in Israel is a lot of people who don't want to or aren't ready to lead a life of Torah and mitzvot feel like they need to go through the motions of "giyyur" so they can fit in. To my mind, if they would allow secular/civil marriages, this would happen less. I am ex-Orthodox, I respect people who convert, but I think the only reason people should do so if they want an Orthodox conversion is if they really believe in it and want to lead a Torah lifestyle.
@@guywhousesapseudonymonyout4272I want to challenge your comment on people to undergo the (Orthodox?/Unchallenged) conversion to Judaism "to believe in the conversion and want to lead a Torah lifestyle". I underwent a conversion myself and I agree with you in the conversion but not in leading a Torah lifestyle. I'm matrilineally Jewish from the Marranos of Spain. When I was 13 years old I was told that I'm a Jew by my family and that that means that we come from Jerusalem and if I forget Jerusalem my tongue will stick to the rooftop of my mouth, we must pass certain names like Esther, we kiss the bread and never throw it in the garbage, just a generation ago we married within our own, when someone dies no one wears black, pointing at the stars is taboo, revealing that we're Jewish to our cousins when they're little is taboo -not out of fear just a taboo - I have 3 out of 6 aunts that married cousins, we see ourselves as gypsies but from Jerusalem a people without a land but with a special heritage. I don't see myself as gypsy. I get it. It was preserved in codes. Even if it happened to me I'm fascinated by it (probably bc my grandfather passed the year after he told me and by 18 I had access to the internet) so I believe in my conversion but not in leading a Torah lifestyle, I mean, what is a Torah lifestyle in the first place? and mostly I believe in my conversion because I needed a document to be accepted by all Jews. I don't have a Jewish marriage certificate in my family. I don't have any records of ancestors buried in Jewish cemeteries. I had to undergo three circumcisions (in Puerto Rico, by the Sephardic community in Tzfat, by the Rabbanut of Israel) which honestly, great punch for stand-up comedy, if I was unequivocally non-Jewish and not in a safek then I'd skip a cut AND not have to wait until an unequivocally not in a safek convert would say the bracha and I replied amen before the mikveh. I mean even when the rabbinnate challenged me and said that I just wanted the papers I told them YES do you want me to be buried in a Catholic cemetery!? Jesus effin Christ imach shemo what do you want from me, to dress like an 18th century Eastern European? I believe a proper conversion and moving to our homeland and speaking Hebrew everyday is the answer. That was the goal. That is the goal, to be free to be ourselves and develop ourselves.
@@colivri336 I don't think you've internalised what Judaism is, and how it is different from Christianity.
To be Jewish is not a right, it's a privilege. Judaism is not an open club.
To have someone with whom there is a risk that they're not legitimately Jewish is a threat to other Jews. For a whole host of reasons Judaism does not promote conversions.
So you coming to get converted and having a tough time is kind of the point. First and foremost they want to weed out those that are not serious and not sincerely believing in the religion. And second, they actually do not want to make it easy so not to many convert.
@@colivri336 The fact that you have jewish customs from home does not make you Jewish. You can be 3/4 Jewish ethnically and still be 100% not Jewish - e.g., David Suchet is 3/4 Jewish but not jewish according to Jewish law).
On the flip side you could be 1/4 Jewish and be 100% jewish by jewish law.
So unless a ketubah from your parents you will not be recognised (not should you) as jewish.
Nice👍👍👍😊
Looking at all those videos, I don't understand how there is so bitter hate against Jews in the world. All the people interviewed are the most lovely characters one can imagine.
Shitty media and fake news
When you have people like George Soros, the Rothschilds and the U.S government representing you. Expect to be hated.
@@alex-sv8ru You know quite exactly that this is not the point. Every people has good people and selfish people, smart and stupid people. Jews are hated because it's a habit, a tradition, not for explicit reasons.
People hate the powerful ones, the average person on the street is harmless.
@@jellyfrosh9102 Yes, but why is it that people hate powerful Jews so much more than powerful non-Jews, when there's no difference to what they do or don't do?
My rabbi said “if a reform convert is not a Jew, then all reform jews are not jews. If a conservative convert is not a Jew, then all conservatives are not jews.” Because Ruth said “and your people shall be my people, your god my god.” If those people are jews, than she is Jew, if the god is the god of Abraham, than she is the child of Abraham. No denomination can change that
That's not accurate. You can be halachically jewish but a complete apikores. It so happens that 99% of reform jews do not practice anything resembling judaism.
Ask a religious Jewish people. Not mostly secular Jews . They will say that they can't marry him because of it.
unfortunately, religious nutjobs are fucked up
It's true. this guy is extremely biased.
The thing is, most people who identify are genuinely very secular. They are the majority. But of course, Orthodox is the real deal ( closest to the books)
Yeah, but the truly religious are very insular. The odds of them socializing with someone outside of their community, let alone marrying them, is very low.
+Roni Stoker As of this month, 58% of Haredim are employed and 76% of Harediot are employed. The rest are either rabbis or students who aspire to become rabbis. Only an insignificant snippet of the population, less than a percent at most, doesn't do anything of these and really do fit your description. In short, no need for this sin'at-khinam
Corey can you please do a video of Karaite Jews, please?
All Jews are equal. But some are more equal than others.
Rabbi Akiva was son of converts. HaShem loves those who convert
Rabbi Akiva was not Reformed
The rules of golf were laid down by the A & R Golf Club of St Andrews. You can play how you want but it ain't golf!
Meir Wise kinda flawed logic don't ya think..
I loved the old Ashkenazi Atheists, all of these are special esp the girl who thought she "needed" the Orthodox conversion
Very similar to some people born in America’s views on people who become citizens later in life from another country
Their all beautiful people, however I'm not sure they even know their heritage😕
They are beautiful ignorant jews that havent an iota of what it means to be a jew. Unfortunately, no one taught them....
Hi Corey, I'm almost certain your answers would be different if you asked conservative religious people not from telalol.
true
true, if he would've ask that in Jerusalem or in the periphery the answers would be different.
amazing video! it is because "being jew" has different meaning and each is understanding its own way. For some it is the religion, for other it is linked to ancestry, and for others it is about tradition, finally some have meaning more inclusive. A good question to ask would be "What is being jew" ?
The older man who said they made me a jew I don't want to be one. I don't believe in God, broke my heart.
As a convert in process, I am very confused. I am doing my conversion to reform Judaism (after many many months of joining my synagogue), have to study for about 2 years, learn Hebrew, make brit Milah, beit din and mikveh. Kosher, Shabbos etc are obviously mandatory, so is Tikkun Olam and mitzvot. I'm in Europe, don't know if in the USA it works differently. My synagogue is part of the World Union for progressive Judaism... and from my researches here in Europe it works everywhere the same way
you ain't Jews you are innffiltrators
Most reform do not keep most halachas.
They don't keep shabbat, kashrut, chagim etc for the most part.
And on top of that they have 'reformed' most jewish laws. So, to put it mildly, they are not recognised as legitimately practicing Judaism
So while a reform jew IS Jewish, a person converting to judaism through the illegitime reform stream cannot become Jewish.
Honestly for most people the conversion depends on what you did (i.e. mikvah, beit dein) and what you observe more than the name you did it under. From what you've said, I believe Conservative Jews would also accept your conversion
My mom was an orthodox convert, as her son does that make me a Jew?
If you were born *after* her conversion, yes.
Thanks.
ask your rabbi...
Identity crisis incoming :D
Born of a Jewish mother, so yes
thank for this video, so much. I am scarred to go from Noahid to Judaism.
So don't. Us jews are supposed to dissuade you from converting anyway.
The basis of Reform Judaism is the haskalah. The approach to the sacred scriptures very often uses the historical-critical method. Some Reform Jews observe Shabbat and some do not. I find Reform Judaism more rational. Not all 613 mitzvot are applicable now and also among orthodoxes, for example some shave their beards, others don't. No one, then, thinks of literally applying a mitzva like the thirty-third ....I live in Italy and when I saw the "eruv" in the Jewish quarter of Rome, I felt like smiling because I thought it was a trick to violate the halacha by respecting it.😊
In modern world, we should focus in doing good things not fucus in riitual,that is reform judaism 👍
So basically for reformed Jews religion is like Christianity is for Christians, only a one year tradition with no real religious beliefs…
As someone who went through conversion, in the reform tradition. I can say that the majority of the Jewish community will accept you as fully Jewish. Nowadays, I identify more with conservative Judaism, but even so, the conversion process I went through was incredibly rigorous. Overall, it was two years before I signed the conversion document. I was expected to compete a full course going over all of Judaism, sit before a bet din, undergo hatafat dam brit (for men only), complete a full immersion in the mikveh and finally a pronouncement while holding the Torah. It doesn’t get more thorough than that. The gripe the orthodox have is that all non-orthodox rabbis (conveniently) are not kosher. Therefore, the conversions they perform aren’t “according” to Halacha. Which is obviously BS. Orthodox Jews, as a percentage of the overall Jewish population, are a dwindling minority. Let them live in ignorance.
They are actually growing precisely because every group has to have a modicum of expectation of filtration. I consider myself a Zadokite Jew, and thus I don’t hold the Talmud as authoritative, but I still respect it. There are certain things which are in the realm debate, but to be a Jew (from the religious perspective) you have to honor your word to G-d, which includes the Commandments.
Reform conversion is not a real conversion. Anyone with a basic understanding of Jewish law can tell you this
@@mynameisnotimportant845 how so? If one converts in the orthodox tradition it is legitimate because it is simply orthodox? What if one completes all the necessary and identical conversion requirements in the reform tradition? That isn’t a “true” conversion because it wasn’t in an orthodox synagogue?
@@Thomas-sx9wq Reform doesn't believe in the Torah and there is no certainty that the Rabbi is actually Jewish or if he isn't that he went through a real conversion himself. For all you know Mickey Mouse converted someone. If you're going to do all the work anyway, why take a risk that the Rabbi converting you is a fraud? I'd want to go the best and most qualified Rabbi I could find. Not some bs reform synagogue that gives dogs Aaliyahs and puts Tehillim on them
@@mynameisnotimportant845 you didn’t answer the question, but your comments are nonsense.
Michael has a nice facial structure
Every Jew is only a Jew if hes a Jew. Has no connection to what he feels or what hes in the mood for that day or month or year.
I would accept a Reformed convert only if they supported Israel.
Alex olivo ... would you accept atheist who supports Israel?
what does it 1 have to do with the other ? So to you he is a fake jew until he supports Israel ? Reform converts are not accepted period . BTW not sure if you know Israel is a state and has nothing really to do with religion .
You obviously don't know anything about Judaism and your comments make no sense . If your devoting to become a jew and you believe in god then you have to believe the entire thing . You cant come into Judaism and say i wan to do A B but not C . Also If you believe in God and are studding his book to become a jew you cant say well this is stupid . God wants it that way and who are you to say what is stupid or isnt ? Your basically saying God in this you don't know what your talking about . Which ultimately mean you don't really believe . It like you walking into your 1st day of law school and telling the teacher who has been there for 30 years teaching your way is wrong i know better . Judaism doesn't work on believing . If you open the Torah god says and you should know I exist . Believing is not knowing .
Now your talking about women and gays I will explain .
Women Are very cherished in the bible . We had many Jewish profits that where women for example Abraham's wife etc. And many women are named in the bible. What you don't get again because i am willing to bet you never learned the Torah . We look at women as the future of our nation .That is why God gave them the power of giving birth to a jew . The father does not have that power . I can be the best jew in the world if my kids mother isn't Jewish . My kids are not Jewish .The Torah also puts a lot of protection for the women When you marry a Jewish women you have to sign a document stating that basically obligates a man to give a women a comfortable home , Money , Lifestyle , Conjugal rights , Inheritance and a certain sum in the case of divorce. This document has to be signed in front of 2 witnesses and if its violated can be prosecuted in Jewish court . Women are also not obligated to do all 613 commandments like men . But they have to do 1 thing and its called Modesty . And that is the main reason why women cant pray with men . They can pray if there is a divider but not in the same exact place . And this has to do more with the men than women . When you go to pray your going to speak to God . Men get distracted very easily and seeing a women will basically make a guy have bad thoughts . Doing that while praying to god inst exactly respectful . So you separate the 2 . See you would have a great argument if we said women cant pray at all .Then I can see where you would make sense . But we allow women at the western wall just as much as men . There are 2 sections .
Now for the gay comment . And this will show you why we really don't accept reform converts . In your comment you mentioned that if someone is aspiring to become a jew and learn we should accept . Well if you open the Torah it specifically y says that int he eyes of god homosexuality is a discussing sin . Not only that its worse than murder in the eye of god . Why would god put that as worse than murder? Its because when you do that sin you are basically changing the way god made the world . Your saying again GOD you don't know I know better . There is a natural way of things that's how god made this world. And that is unnatural .whether you look at this in a religious way or Nature homosexuality is wrong and it goes against how thing world works . SO if your trying to become a jew and god is telling you this is disgusting my eye . Then how can you be for it while trying to tell me your a real jew ?
See in Judaism we live for God not the other way around . We don't care for modern or progressive things because those are fads . They come and go . We have only 1 Torah unlike Muslims and Christians who have hundreds of thousand of different bibles . The way we preserved it for 3200 years and by keeping it .The Torah has surpassed modern world of the Greeks Romans etc. They are all gone but the Torah is still here.When you Say its not modern that why I don't keep it is basically saying I want to do what I want and this crimps my style . Well if your trying to become a jew your style is the last thing to worry about.
In all Reform movement modified a lot of the Torah that at this point there is nothing Jewish about it . To us its another cult . and it has worse ideology than Christians . The reform movement is about 200 years old vs 3200 of orthodox . You tell me which you think is the real Judaism . If you want to become a jew do yourself a favor and go to orthodox . Also if your not a jew you can still be a riotous non jew by fallowing the 7 laws of Noah . If you really doing this for god then either just fallow the 7 laws or go through an orthodox conversion . There is no point to go through all this just to find out your really not a jew at the end .
Ok lets get something clear and out of the way . The only thing that changed in the way we keep the Torah is the commandments that have to do with the temple that no longer exists . All other commandments never changed . Take a jew from the middle east and another one from Europe and one from anywhere you want we all fallow the same standards . Some do more in the same context when it comes to a particular thing but they still fallow the rule .I will give you an example on Passover European Jews don't eat rice as a custom . And middle eastern Jews do . Rice is not forbidden but you have to clean it a certain way and the European Jews like to go above and beyond . Are they both fallowing the commandments that you shouldn't eat hametz on pesach yes . Is one of them wrong ? No . one is taking it a step further . Also if you open the Gemarah or the oral torah you will see all the arguments on every topic imaginable . But at the end 1 way is chosen and that's what everyone fallows . The gemarah was written for one reason . To show you what every sage was thinking when arguing about a particular subject and how we came to the correct answer. This way no one makes up there own interpretation of Judaism . Can anyone keep it 100% no we are human and we make mistakes . But there are fundamental things you have to keep no matter what .Because its the basis of our religion . I put a list below and before you tell me its from he Torah or the rabbis I made a list of requirement to be a jew only from the Torah . IF you don't keep these you can not call yourself a Jew .
If you claim you studied and keep studding then you know that the fundamental part of being a jew are these next commandments . Even the most modern orthodox Jews or Jews that don't keep much of the religion still fallow these rules .
1.circumcision
2.Sabbath
3.Kosher
4. Passover
5. Yom Kippur
6. Homosexuality
7.Intermarriage
8. Couples Purity Laws
9. Instead of a bar mitzvah its a Communion like a church
10. They don't even read the Torah in Hebrew they read it German.
So you being such a learner of Torah tell me what is jewish about them ? The only thing Jewish about them is that they call themselves so called Jews .
In your comment about progressing and modern life . I can tell you as a Orthodox Jew I lead a modern life style and I still keep my religion . On the sabbath I shut my phone , I shut my business and keep it 100% and i have no problem . And i can tell you i am not the most religious person you will find . Studding the Torah is great and i applaud anyone who does it . But to just read it like a story you are missing the point . The thing that separates us from thousands of religions out there is that we only have 1 Torah and not only do we have 1 it was given to us in front of million of Jews by god . The Christians believe this and so do Muslims . there is no argument there . Every other religion that came after us it was always 1 person claiming something that no one can verify . Mary claimed she was a virgin , Muhammad claimed he meet with the angel Gabriel , Buddha he saw the light and on and on . But no one can verify this . All these religions took parts from our Torah and twisted it to where they believe in it but there religion is far away from it. in the Quran it says if you dont know something in islam go tot he jews because they are the true people of the book . Jesus said that the Torah is divine and anyone who changes 1 letter should be cursed in the kingdom of heaven . So if 2 fake religion bow there head and agree god gave this Torah to us . Who are we to change it ? What god doesn't know that there will be modern times and progression ? He didn't know that the world would change . Sure he did and he still said do it this way . So who are these reform to come and change the word of god ?
The next thing I say will hurt but its the truth . When something happens to us we always ask why but the answer is always there but we are so blinded we cant see it . Reform Judaism started in Germany in 1819 . In 1842 it was spread throughout Europe . Forward 100 years and now you have your answer for the Holocaust . IF you cant see the connection your either blind or just don't want to .
This is the reason why we don't accept reform converts or reform Jews to begin with . To tell me your a jew that studies the Torah but modern times supersedes God tells me you either didn't learn enough or your not getting the Torah . Read all the stories every time we did something against god we got punished . We had hate and animosity toward each other and it was reason enough to destroy the temple . What do you think go will do to people who straight up go against everything ?
Trust me I am not getting my information from google . I am saying if you want to do research you can go and see for yourself . Also knowing a few reform Jews doesn't make you an expert . It doesn't matter what they do it matters what the movement is all about . You are wrong they don't do circumcision . Yes some do but it is not required . If i walk into there temples and say i am not circumcised they would have no problem with it . To them circumcision is not an actual thing you have to do to them its metaphorical thing . Just like the story of Egypt they don't believe it happened to them it was just a metaphorical story . Here is a link from reformjews.org . Read the first paragraph about how it started . And I quote
"The first Reform temple opened its doors 200 years ago in the town of Seesen, Germany. At the inaugural ceremony on July 17, 1810, a parade of rabbis, Christian ministers, and political dignitaries passed under a chiming bell-tower and entered the sanctuary, while an adult choir, accompanied by a pipe organ, sang hymns in German and Hebrew. The businessman and philanthropist who had founded this temple, Mr. Israel Jacobson (1768-1828), delivered the sermon while draped in a black clerical robe. Standing behind a pulpit at the front of the sanctuary, the man who had also established an egalitarian, religiously pluralistic boarding school for 40 Jewish and 20 Christian children told the august assembly: "On all sides enlightenment opens up new areas for religious development. Why should we Jews be left behind?"
If you read on it says
"In synagogue worship, they began to pray in unison and introduced a professional choir and organ to render their hymns. The rabbi led services covered in ministerial robes as bareheaded worshipers listened in solemn silence. Later in the century, when Reform Judaism spread to North America, the main Shabbat service shifted to Friday night, allowing Jews to pursue their occupations on Saturdays, in concert with many of their gentile compatriots.
Thus, in this first stage of Reform Judaism's development-a period of adaptation to the wider gentile community-Reform Jews abandoned codes of diet, dress, and ritual practices which set them apart from fellow citizens."
So they even admit changing the sabbath and bunch of laws . They don't hide it . If you read the first paragraph it was started by a jew , some Christians and political figures . Not only that the founder Israel jacobson established a egalitarian religiously pluralistic boarding school for 40 Jewish and 20 Christian children.
And if you keep reading they moved prayer from asking god to bring back the mesiah and raise the dead etc. To national restoration to what they called the "Mission of Israel" . So what makes them Jewish ? Forget what they call themselves . This is nothing more than another Christian missionary to get people to leave Judaism for Christianity . One of the most prominent reform was Theodore herzl wrote a letter to the pope saying dont worry within time we will get all the Jews to become Christians . He had a Christmas tree and celebrated Christmas , He refused to send his kids to Jewish school and send them to christian school . This is 1 one of the prominent reform Jews of the time . Then when his son married a non jew the head of reform made a fuss about it and in a letter to them herzl son said . My dad send us to Christians schools , We celebrated Christmas , We never kept 1 jew commandments and you all didn't say 1 word . What did you think i was going to marry ? Shortly after he committed suicide on the George Washington bridge . So dont come and tell me I know this reform who does circumcision and one who does this and that . I am not talking about the individual i am talking about the whole .
1. link 1 reformjudaism.org/history-reform-judaism-and-look-ahead-search-belonging
2.www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-tenets-of-reform-judaism#Intermarriage
As the Halacha says: if someone adapts Jewish faith and keeps practicing it, It is Jewish. So I don't believe anybody who converts to Judaism, will not a real Jew since we branched out many parts and named them differently. Being bias is very dangerous when it comes to religions and beliefs. So everyone becomes the Nation of HaShem, They are also children of him too.
But video show otherwise..seem identity crisis.
The old people group are very educated and nice .
Susan, why do you bring the argument down to your level. She was told not to wash the meaty and milky dishes together.
Ruth didnt join a sect of Judaism that abandoned large sections of the Torah.
Was thinking of converting and only places here are reform and conservative. The only one close to me that I can get to is the reform. But, seeing that orthodox doesn’t accept reform converts and would have to convert orthodox for it to count. This is kinda heart breaking since I have felt a calling and reform is my only option where I live.
Converting is not to be accepted by people, but for G'd! And if Reform is the only possible way, or Conservative, why not do that? Ask G'd to guide you in this if you have this calling. Good luck!
Thomas K Thank you! I have been praying a lot for guidance. I have gone to a reform. I have also found and went to a conservative. I really enjoyed the conservative. Sadly, I am dealing with another problem. Ever since participating, my wife has been very condescending to me, talking down to me, even stating things about my beard (which I grow every winter because it’s cold) saying you look Jewish, you’re Jewish now, be,os it longer (not in a nice way). I’m thinking my God if I’m not even converted yet and getting this much hatred, I can’t imagine the pain the Jewish community feels from the world. It’s like God is giving me the taste of what’s to come. It really hurts, but I can only keep moving closer to God. I must be on the right path.
@@mr.b2960 My friend, I feel really sorry for you! I would like to come in contact with you to share some thoughts and support, if you like. For now I can only say you need to have faith and trust, just like our father Abraham, and HaShem will show you the way.
I’m in the same position. I want to convert to Reform Judaism, but I find it painful that Orthodox and even some Conservative Jews would not consider me Jewish. However at the end of the day, I believe that it is mega important to do what is best for yourself, as well as acknowledge the fact that you cannot make absolutely everyone happy. Mazel Tov in your journey my friend 😁
Wasn't Sarah in the Torah a convert?
And so?
The man at 11:10 kinda looks like Netanyahu
This is what my rabbi told me When you convert according halacha not by movement have a sincere heart for Jewish community life and Embrace all mitzvah your Jewish. Im converting right now I have been living a jewish life now for 6 months im conservative Mazorti and if I have to take a Orthadox conversion for marriage reasons I dont mind. I love are people heritage traditions costumes and everything that involves are faith and community may Hasshem bless you sir
don't make a conversion for marriage reasons. Convert into whatever branch of judaism you are most comfortable with
@@robertleffel3156 im converting into conservative shul which is the only shul in my area ive been there now 8 months its my home ,I love it
@@ryanpoolecountry8864 Great! Wish you all the best and welcome to the Jewish people
most secular jews don't really know something about this subject. and yes orthodox convertion, it is like the religion says for over 3000 years. reform convertion it's like that someone convert to christiany without baptism.
Bad argument friend, you can be a Christian without following any Christian religion, you just have to believe in your God or prophet or whatever Jesus is. In fact, this is how evangelical churches are born, someone believes in Jesus and transmits their beliefs to other people who believe in that person. The reformists believe that there are things about the Torah that are no longer necessary in today's world, but a group of rabbis determined that it is not so, and that is why they are no longer Jewish, the truth is only a point of view different nothing more. Both believe in the Torah, in the same G-d, both are Jews.
Well, reformists did not cancel circumsizing and mikveh so your argument about baptizing is incorrect. And by the way if you are christian - nobody controls you if you live according the Bible. Nobody cares if you eat meat on Friday and nobody kicks you out of the catholic church because of it.
it is so hard convert here in Brazil!
good luck, be-hatzlacha
don't do reform... it's bullshit like the kids said. it's like christianty it's american way to be a jew and act like a christian.
May Hashem help you succeed!
I am from brazil too
you follow kabbalah,,,no shit.
We need Vicky Pollard to answer this one
Only the original meaning ( according to Torah ) is accurate which is 'someone who praises The Most High'.
The situation is that the overwhelming majority of them will say they’re not concerned about this but when it comes to registering marriages and funerals/burials and the red tape and difficulty you’ll suddenly see an about face on this topic.
Thats because of the government ..
I didn't know the people interviewed here represents the entire bureaucracy...
They're thinking about any children that may be born. Lots of Russians came after 1990 and avoid 30% werent Jewish. You can usually tell a Russian non jew in Israel. Also Jewish burial is paramount in Judaism and sadly even fallen IDF soldiers have had to be buried in non Jewish cemetery which is something that is devastating for a Jewish family. You want your children to be able to be buried next to your parents. I am secular but Jewish from both sides and its important to me i guess. All peoples should maintain some traditions whether they are Jews, American Christians, Chinese, etc. Its about respect for ones past
God created Jews when he wanted to separate a group of people apart from the world to be devoted to Him and learn and follow His ways, so it's astounding how few Jews ever mention God at all. 😲
Amos 3:2
You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
Luke 21:20,24
And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh(70AD) .
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Deuteronomy 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:
Deuteronomy 28:48-50
[48]Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a YOKE of IRON UPON THY NECK, until he have DESTROYED THEE.
[49]The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as "the eagle" flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
[50]A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
Deuteronomy 28:64-68
[64]And the LORD shall "scatter thee among all people", from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
[65]And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
[66]And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
[67]In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
[68]And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again WITH SHIPS, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
Isaiah 34:5-6,8,16
[5]For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon IDUMEA(Romans,Edom), and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
[6]The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in "Bozrah", and a great slaughter in the land of "Idumea".
[8]For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for "the controversy of Zion".
[16]Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Amos 9:7-8,11-12,14-15
[7]Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?
[8]Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
[11]In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
[12]That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
[14]And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
[15]And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
Shalom all
i thought of conversion actually. something about the focus on knowledge is so appealing to me. judaism is great, especially reform!
I want to convert to Judaism..
Why?
MrZapparin you can marry into it
Isaac Willis you can just convert
Isaac Willis Wouldn't mind marrying a Jew girl.
They are pretty hot.
@@isaacwillis8618 no
Actually reformed judaism is the only serious way....and millions of people are reformed....
Most Reformed do not honor the Sabbath - one of the 10 commandments. Do not keep kosher as told in the Torah. And do not follow halacha.
@@rachelsamuel3328 Orthodox Jews think only Orthodoxy is legitimate.
@@veromaestro5194 Only keeping actual Jewish laws is what makes judaism legitimate - yes.
And no one group does this except orthodox.
@@meirtt the basis of Reform Judaism is the haskalah. The approach to the sacred scriptures very often uses the historical-critical method. Some Reform Jews observe Shabbat and some do not. I find Reform Judaism more rational. Not all 613 mitzvot are applicable now and also among orthodoxes, for example some shave their beards, others don't. No one, then, thinks of literally applying a mitzva like the thirty-third ....
9.23 is she from Argentina? She seems to have a spanish accent
I'm a Muslim and I couldn't careless about this topic. However, these people don't look very informed in Jewish traditions. Not one them quoted a phrase from the Torah or the Telmud.
Now going back to my other TH-cam suggestions 👋🏻
move on habibi
Jews are the only people on earth that can by made by religious thought. For me Judaism is not a Religion, but as Rabbi Meir said, "Judaism is a Way of Life." That I accept. For me Judaism is a way of life and my religion is Music. For me my desire is to live by observing as many of the Torah Commandments that I can without sacrificing my state of being into sickness, crime and deceit while keeping the Shemah on my heart with complete and total love "Always" for Hashem.
Anyone can be made by religious thought, some of our cousins can be made and un-made by religious thought. And I'm paranoid about what kind of music you listen to. Lol
@@colivri336 This is one of my favorite songs. th-cam.com/video/TmfeNq5x5aQ/w-d-xo.html
Asking a convert if converts are real Jews and convert says NO they are not ...
PAHAHAHA
nito 213 exactly these are all Europeans not the ancient Jews who where people of color
@@antoniogutierrezjr3175 nonsensical comment
@@yizzymelon6721 no it's not, no European born jew are Israelites , those European Ashkenazi Kazarian converts do not have a drop of Shemetic blood in them, they are not from the line of Shem but are from the seed of Japheth. They are identity thieves.
@@thefallofthewicked5865 Clearly you have never studied Ashkanazi genetics nor Ashkanazi history.
The average Ashkanazi Jew (not those who identify as Ashkanazi but those who are actually Ashkanazi) are on average 65% Semites. (BTW no 100% Semite exhists today, the closest I believe are the Samaritans.)
Why is the Khazar genetics so insignificant in Ashkanazi Jews? - Judaism has never been a religion which proselytise. The Khazer conversion was never made mandatory in the kingdom, only the aristocracy (the only people who are actually literate at the time so the records make the impression everyone converts) were in fact the only members of society who did convert.
Even if we say Sephardic Jews are the closest thing to the ancient Israelites then you have to admit that Ashkanazim are the second most original.
@@yizzymelon6721 you typed that lie to no avail, the truth is out they are the serpent people Satan's seed.
"Grumpy old ashkenazis" 😂😂😂
... I like the last answer most. If I convert I wouldn't like to be like 50% citizen.
the first jew converted was abraham , for sure a converte jew is more jew than a person born jew, some people are jews by born and others people jews by conversion, that means by choice .
Abraham was not a Jew. The Jewish religion by definition is the religion of the people who followed Moses and followed the Torah that was revealed to him.
Abraham on the other hand was a prophet of God and a pure monotheist like Adam, Noah, Lot, etc..
Adnan Jomaa by the time Abraham got circumcise , that was just the first condition to be come the chosen ones, a Jew means not just to belong to the tribe of Judah in the time of Egyptian exile, is more than that .... is a lot of process ....
@@fernandorojas-xd8jc
I have explicitly heard Rabbi Tovia Singer say that Abraham was not a Jew in one of his videos on TH-cam.
Regardless, I have difficulty understanding how Jews define a Jew, especially the orthodox Jews.
If some Jews would consider Abraham a Jew then according to them Isaac should be a Jew as well. So if his younger son is a Jew then shouldn't his eldest Ishmael be one as well? I'm sure he worshiped the God of his father too right?
How do you cope with that?
Adnan Jomaa There is two types of Jew , the one born from Jews mother and the one converted and follow the laws, and precepts of the creator... Abraham was the very first bealiver and the father of faith, which makes him the first Jew by choice not by mother Jew...
@@fernandorojas-xd8jc Prophet Ibrahim was not a Jew..
3:67) Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he was a Muslim, wholly devoted to God. And he certainly was not amongst those who associate others with Allah in His divinity. 59.
When you join a golf club you have to accept the rules and play the game. Whoever joins Judaism needs to accept all the rules and keep them
well there's a lot of golf clubs were you can play with different rules
Or go to another golf club
A Jew is a Jew. I think this is more of a semantic question. The question more should be about Yiddishkeit. Does reform serve hashem
4:23 Vince from Entourage
I don't know Vince but this is aAn incredibly handsome man; but then his g/f is looker too.
How do you find so many of these guys, Corey?
They are both very sweet and kind kids.