What a beautiful end entertaining video, the ideas within are somewhat twisted and have planted a dark and intriguing seed into my brain that without a doubt will diminish my wallet and social life... Only time will tell if I should thank or curse you...
THat cutaway between you on the bus, and shower was very premium. It's a detail requires a little personal thought to be outside the machine shop, to match what you were saying in the post-recording. That's worth a subscribe:)
I'm digging the angle blocks that double as spacers! There are so many things these days that have become affordable for hobby people that make life a lot easier (CNC stuff, DROs, etc.), but sometimes those take a lot of the thinking out of it. Machining is a process. You seem to really get the idea man I dig it, thanks for the idea!
THANK YOUI, FOR THIS VITAL, AND HELPFUL INFORMATION!!!.. YOU HAVE SOME AWE$OME TOOLING IDEA$ THERE!!!!!!!!!!! TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THESE KINDS OF DETAILS ID DIFFICULT, IF YOU DON'T WORK AS A PROFESSIONAL MACHINIST.
Excellent concept and Idea! If you need to index by more than 10 then you probably should be using a dividing head. For anything less COLLET BLOCKS and Shims for the WIN!
I like this channel because (as a layman) I have no idea what any of the terms you're saying are but then you show a video of the thing and I'm like "oh ok makes sense"
Your line about "stacking up enough prime divisors" reminds me of the Newbould Indexer. It uses a stack of plates with partial face splines to index to any angle precisely. Each spline pair has an unusual spacing, such as 1.1° per tooth. (Since the splines aren't complete, they don't need to divide evenly into 360°.)
You should make a collet block that just spins to whatever angle you want. Then put a gear behind it to index it precisely.🤣 But seriously, that's an awesome invention
I haven't watched the video yet. I am 95% sure that you can not convince me that Hexagons aren't the Bestagons. Edit after watching: I will admit that in this specific case, the Heptagon is the Bettergon. But since this is undoubtedly an edge case, and the Heptagon needs assistance to be the Bettergon, I would be willing settle for calling it a Reallygoodagon.
No, R8s are much narrower, so you'd need a special block for those. It could be done, though I'm not sure I've ever seen such a thing. Since R8 has threads on the inside, you can't pass stock all the way through like you can with a C5, so they have a much more restrictive diameter *and* depth they can hold. They're really just intended for holding tooling.
I'd rather get a 1 5/16" hole saw, spade bit, forstner bit, boring head, fly cutter, or router bushing with hole template, sketch or scribe a circle and cut it with a scroll saw, jig saw, Sawzall, coping saw, jewel saw, than be trendy and buy a 3D printer, thats a lot of money i could spend on more machine parts, more tools, more tacos, tortas, sushi, sandwiches, hamburgers, whiskey or tequila, thats just me though.
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What a beautiful end entertaining video, the ideas within are somewhat twisted and have planted a dark and intriguing seed into my brain that without a doubt will diminish my wallet and social life... Only time will tell if I should thank or curse you...
Now I want to (fruitlessly) think about degrees and geometrical possibilities too.
THat cutaway between you on the bus, and shower was very premium. It's a detail requires a little personal thought to be outside the machine shop, to match what you were saying in the post-recording. That's worth a subscribe:)
I'm digging the angle blocks that double as spacers! There are so many things these days that have become affordable for hobby people that make life a lot easier (CNC stuff, DROs, etc.), but sometimes those take a lot of the thinking out of it. Machining is a process. You seem to really get the idea man I dig it, thanks for the idea!
THANK YOUI, FOR THIS VITAL, AND HELPFUL INFORMATION!!!.. YOU HAVE SOME AWE$OME TOOLING IDEA$ THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THESE KINDS OF DETAILS ID DIFFICULT, IF YOU DON'T WORK AS A PROFESSIONAL MACHINIST.
Excellent concept and Idea! If you need to index by more than 10 then you probably should be using a dividing head. For anything less COLLET BLOCKS and Shims for the WIN!
love the heptagonal block! the hexagonal half-indexing is a neat trick, even though it doesn't preserve the vertical OR horizontal data.
I like this channel because (as a layman) I have no idea what any of the terms you're saying are but then you show a video of the thing and I'm like "oh ok makes sense"
Let's collet a day.
Excellent work man, earned my subscription
Your line about "stacking up enough prime divisors" reminds me of the Newbould Indexer. It uses a stack of plates with partial face splines to index to any angle precisely. Each spline pair has an unusual spacing, such as 1.1° per tooth. (Since the splines aren't complete, they don't need to divide evenly into 360°.)
Oh, that's very cool!
You should make a collet block that just spins to whatever angle you want. Then put a gear behind it to index it precisely.🤣
But seriously, that's an awesome invention
Nice. I should be using my collet blocks more...
Why not use a spin indexer?
Initial reaction before watching the video, heptagons are cursed 😂. At least I know you can't make them with ruler and compass.
yay i finally know what a collet block is for!
How far do you trust the chamfers on your collet blocks? I wouldn't expect them to be ground true, or even inspected beyond cosmetics at the factory.
how is the hexagon clamped with the tilted shim block? The vise would turn the block out of orientation, right? So you need at clamp from the top?
well is that a 1mm runout at the center of your lathe?
Great video
I haven't watched the video yet. I am 95% sure that you can not convince me that Hexagons aren't the Bestagons.
Edit after watching: I will admit that in this specific case, the Heptagon is the Bettergon. But since this is undoubtedly an edge case, and the Heptagon needs assistance to be the Bettergon, I would be willing settle for calling it a Reallygoodagon.
this was amazing
Thanks Atto
So will my r8 collets fit into this c5 collet block? I understand c5 threads outside, r8 thread inside…I’m very new to this stuff.
No, R8s are much narrower, so you'd need a special block for those. It could be done, though I'm not sure I've ever seen such a thing. Since R8 has threads on the inside, you can't pass stock all the way through like you can with a C5, so they have a much more restrictive diameter *and* depth they can hold. They're really just intended for holding tooling.
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Wow. 🤯 that is deep. 🤔
Nice
I'd rather get a 1 5/16" hole saw, spade bit, forstner bit, boring head, fly cutter, or router bushing with hole template, sketch or scribe a circle and cut it with a scroll saw, jig saw, Sawzall, coping saw, jewel saw, than be trendy and buy a 3D printer, thats a lot of money i could spend on more machine parts, more tools, more tacos, tortas, sushi, sandwiches, hamburgers, whiskey or tequila, thats just me though.