I think the C5 gen tried to work out all of the kinks from the C4. The C6 wrapped up all that research nicely and Chevy created a more "bullet-proof" engine and car. Love the C6!
The 5 things I prefer on my C5 Z06 compared to my C6 Z 1- The ability to read trouble codes from the DIC display, I wish every car had this feature. 2- The fixed roof coupe body. With a partition you get a separated trunk that I think is way more useful than the hatch area. Personally I also think it looks better than the coupe. 3- Cost - the C5 is way cheaper to buy and I found parts, new and used, to be cheaper as well. 4- Not a fan of the electronic door release on my C6. I haven't had any problems but simple is better. 5- Pop-up headlights yo In every other way the C6 is objectively better though
The C5 code system is the best 4 sure! I have never been a huge fan of the FRC vs the Coupe - but 100% subjective. C5 is the better bang for buck 4 sure! Good feedback - thanks!
I agree about the electronic doors.....haven't found any advantage to my C6's electric doors over my C5's normal handles. Sometimes my C6 pads are a bit slow to react and don't open instantly.
Love my 08 C6 LSthree! Veraram intake, long tube headers, NPP exhaust all welded. Tuned 400hp wheel. Engine untouched. SLP hood, spoiler, carbon diffuser, rear widebody conversion, grand sport wheels 295s and 325s. Seats are great and it’s possible to get 27 on a flat Highway.
I've had both and love the C5 (2003) for many reasons but the C6 (2008) has so many improvements and is so much faster. I also really like the 6 speed automatic over the 4 speed in my C5. I drove manuals for a long time and I'm happy to let the car do the shifting for me now.. Unfortunately, I don't have room for two, so I sold my C5. I wish I could have kept it sometimes but the C6 is a convertible I love to put the top down so I'd probably not drive the C5 that much anyhow.
I own a C5 convertible. A buddy of mine has a C5 coupe I remember being blown away with how much cargo space that car had! I feel like the Z06 Hardtops & Verts loose some of that space though because you can't go as high up like you can in the Coupe model.
My buddy's C6 Z06 has the MGW- now that I am used to the Hurst I will have to go for a test drive in his and contrast the two. It has been a while since I drove his but my memory is they feel very similar vs the stock shifters. Thanks for the input!
Very much appreciate your insight. Was shopping for a C6 6.2 but love the C5 style. Not the interior so much. Besides seats and maybe an up to date intergrated Navigation replacement, any suggestions for a reasonably priced interior upgrade?
Read where the C6 corrected 100 issues with the C5 according to their head engineer. Cleaned up the rear design of the C5. Both are great Corvettes. C6 refined on the C5 generation.
@@Toys4Life According to Chief Engineer Dave Hill, “We had really stretched to upgrade the C5 each year. We wanted to stretch again and annihilate the compromises we had been living with. We went at the new one with the idea of ‘more exciting’ but with a surprising amount of refinement that people wouldn’t believe possible at Corvette’s performance level. We wanted once again to exceed expectations, even if not in a clean-sheet way. But we knew customer expectations would be real high, and we set out to beat ‘em all.” 100 Items Corrected from C5 The team identified nearly 100 items (“dissatisfiers” as Hill calls them) that the Corvette team needed to change and/or improve based on complaints from C5 Corvette owners. Certain of these items posed a unique challenge for chief designer Tom Peters and lead exterior designer Kirk Bennison. Some of the widespread criticism the C5 received was that it was a bit large for a high-power sports car. Reducing size and unnecessarily bulk would increase car performance and would make the Corvette more functional in crowded urban conditions - an important consideration for Europe, where GM wanted to boost Corvette sales. www.corvsport.com/c6-corvette-evolution-superstar/
I spent 6 months and $1500 but I finally have two working keys for my C6 now that I can drive it a lot I have noticed I get a lot of wheel hop but it’s not when I launch the car it’s only when I shift in the second gear
I don't understand, why did it cost so much to get to working fobs for your C6? If you have wheel hop going in the second gear, do you have a broken engine or diff mount?
@@Toys4Life my local Chevy dealer had the car for a couple months and I kept a tile in the back of the car. The c6 would start when you put one of the keys in the emergency start slot in the glove box. I looked at my tile to make sure the car was at the Chevy dealer and it was 150 miles away at a park in another town. That upset me so I got the car back and had it fixed at a local shop and it needed a new remote radio, remote control, receiver module, and that had to be programmed by T2 system. I live in a pretty small town, so that’s why it took forever. On the other hand, I think my rear differential mount is starting to wear out. Also, my rear tires are pretty much gone so it tries to spin through second instead of drip like it used to so instead of new tires is going to be ordered tomorrow.
Excellent comparison. I remember as a 21 year old having a 442 and that car had the exhaust right close to the starter which would eventually cause vapor lock on the car. Good luck with the car 🚘
Been considering getting into a corvette as a car no. 2. For the longest time I have been a Volvo fan, but my last 3 cars have been EVs (X, 3P and now YP). But some times my gf is out with the Tesla and then I might need to drive the kid to a soccer practice or something. So then maybe I should get a C5 or C6 vette, manual? It seems like its a qiute reliable car. I can do some wrenching my self, but not major inside engine work. However I can do like shocks, springs etc. It would also be fun to tune it, but not sure if it can be approved in norway with supercharger. I wonder if its more leniant on the first model C5, as the EURO-1 rules came in 98 if I remember correctly. It seems for me that 2006+ C6 is the toughest mechanically, then I read about the abs issue for the first c5. Would do a manual car of course.
You should definitely get one if you’re doing the wrenching. And with tunes and upgraded parts, it’ll be the most fun you’ve had with a weekend car ever
Yah-but.... which one do you like better? I've driven a base 05 and my 04Z on the Tail of the dragon (both driven hard). The 05 was very impressive. But my 04Z would just eat its lunch in the corners. And this might suprise a lot of you.. but the fitment of interior parts on my 04Z is better than the 05 base I spent time in.
Yeah I think a C5Z is going to out handle a base C6 all day long. I'm not sure which one I like better yet, I'm slowly letting my thoughts sink in and there's always the new shiny toy syndrome that we have, I need that to fully wear off so I can compare these apples to apples.
I worked on cars since I was about 14, worked in shops through H.S. and College and then transitioned into a non-related business field. If I worked on cars full time I wouldn't want to mess with mine in my spare time (:-). How about you?
I sold my C5 Z06 after 3 years and ended up getting a 2006 convertible. I'd definitely say the seats are better. The seats frames are sturdier. Car is more refined/more modern feeling. The base C6 feels like a boat compared to a C5Z, though it does ride smoother. The variable assist steerting on the C6 is goofy as hell, I don't like it at all. Unless you are constantly taking fast corners in the C6, you forget it's there and when a curve comes up on the highway you will go into the lane next to you. There's like no power assist when the car is at speed but it has assist at low speeds. Doesn't feel natural and it's not intuitive. A couple important things for all LS2 Corvette owners (2005-2007): 1. The factory LS2 air intake is a hot air intake. It has no access to outside air. This is an issue on warm climates because the LS2 also comes with a tune that pulls up to 12° of ignition timing when it sees high IATs. The IAT only has to reach 113° for the ECU to pull 7° of timing, and that's easy to do with a hot air intake. My LS2 did 12.8 @ 112 mph on my Dragy in 60° air one day and 13.3 @ 108 mph in 75° air the next day. When it reached 90° out, I was down to 105-106 mph trap speeds so this is not a joke. Remove the stock air intake and install a Vararam or Corsa sealed cold air intake immediately. I did this and gained 3 mph instantly in 90° air with no other changes. 2. The factory LS2 Corvette intake manifold is the worst cathedral port intake manifold GM ever made. A FAST 102 is a direct bolt-on, 1-2 hours of labor and worth 20 hp and 20 lb/ft on a bone stock car. I installed a FAST 102, headers, a small 224/228 cam and FTI 3000 stall and it isn't even the same car.
You make some damn good points! Question, where'd you get the 20 horsepower 20 ft pounds on a bone stock LS2 car for the fast 102 manifold. I know there's a significant gain, but I'm curious where you got those numbers?
@@Carguylogan of course I watched Richard's stuff, I thought his was already a modified like 5.3 or something but anyway, I would jump all over that manifold but for 1150 bucks goodness gracious!!!
@@Toys4Life Yea it's not cheap but people spend more than that on headers and it's accepted to be worth the same gains as headers on the LS2. It makes power everywhere not just high rpm 👍. Mine made 385 whp SAE thru an auto with long tubes and a FAST 102 and tune.
The only 2 things I wish that could be programmed in to the C5 from the C6 is the way the windows crack open every time the door is opened (indexing I think they call it, seals better) and the ability to put a Pedal Commander to adjust throttle response. Also thanks for the great content and comparison as usual.
Awesome mate. Well I quite dislike the looks of the C6... And always said the C5 is ONE OF THE MOST spectacular and gorgeous Corvettes...despite the bad quality plastic parts it has. The C6 looks with much less elegance and pedigree (IMO). Cheers from Spain.
Ive talked to owners of both, and the ones I've talked to have been pretty much all in that the C5 rides a bit better, and has a bit more roomy interior....
I'm 6'3" tall, and the first thing I noticed when I sold my C5 and got into my C6 was a noticeable reduction in legroom. One of the only things I dont like better in the C6 though.....great sports car for the money. LS3, Z51, 3LT, NPP exhaust.....lots of bang for the buck!
What a nerd! Just kidding, wouldn't be here I wasn't looking for nerdy little details like this too, excellent break down! Can't wait to here the rest of your thoughts on the C6.
You’re shittin’ me, right? Comparing Supercharged mod C5 to a stock C6 in any way seems a little odd, to say the least. Same goes for other mods, like Shifter etc. Any Gear Head knows, you throw enough Money at a Toilet-bowl and it’ll go fast. I fail to see the point of this video, Bud. But that’s just me…….. BTW, love my C6 Conv!
If you watched a little bit further you would have seen that I compared stock to stock and clearly stated the LS2 C6 would be quicker faster and more powerful. All other comparisons are relevant.
My C5 Z seats sucked. My base C6 seats are a LOT better. It's not about the bolstering or foam, it's the frames. The C5 seats were floppy and flexy, and I bought my Z with only 15,000 miles. My C6 seats are much sturdier.
I think the C5 gen tried to work out all of the kinks from the C4. The C6 wrapped up all that research nicely and Chevy created a more "bullet-proof" engine and car. Love the C6!
It did not take long to stop the screaming noise my C6 Z51 made upon launching. Remove wife.
Well thought out and presented. Your enthusiasm for corvettes is appreciated and interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You do a really great job on these videos! You are a natural!
Thank you so much!
@@Toys4Life👍
Same thing I would have said great job 👏 👍
@@hondamancl450 😄👍
I like to think of the c6 is a refined version of the c5
The 5 things I prefer on my C5 Z06 compared to my C6 Z
1- The ability to read trouble codes from the DIC display, I wish every car had this feature.
2- The fixed roof coupe body. With a partition you get a separated trunk that I think is way more useful than the hatch area. Personally I also think it looks better than the coupe.
3- Cost - the C5 is way cheaper to buy and I found parts, new and used, to be cheaper as well.
4- Not a fan of the electronic door release on my C6. I haven't had any problems but simple is better.
5- Pop-up headlights yo
In every other way the C6 is objectively better though
The C5 code system is the best 4 sure! I have never been a huge fan of the FRC vs the Coupe - but 100% subjective. C5 is the better bang for buck 4 sure! Good feedback - thanks!
Sold my c6 and got a a c5 and 02 z28. All smiles everyday.
I agree about the electronic doors.....haven't found any advantage to my C6's electric doors over my C5's normal handles. Sometimes my C6 pads are a bit slow to react and don't open instantly.
Love my 08 C6 LSthree! Veraram intake, long tube headers, NPP exhaust all welded. Tuned 400hp wheel. Engine untouched. SLP hood, spoiler, carbon diffuser, rear widebody conversion, grand sport wheels 295s and 325s. Seats are great and it’s possible to get 27 on a flat Highway.
Any problems with the car,what is the mileage, thinking about getting an 08 manual with 110k
I've had both and love the C5 (2003) for many reasons but the C6 (2008) has so many improvements and is so much faster. I also really like the 6 speed automatic over the 4 speed in my C5. I drove manuals for a long time and I'm happy to let the car do the shifting for me now.. Unfortunately, I don't have room for two, so I sold my C5. I wish I could have kept it sometimes but the C6 is a convertible I love to put the top down so I'd probably not drive the C5 that much anyhow.
I own a C5 convertible. A buddy of mine has a C5 coupe I remember being blown away with how much cargo space that car had! I feel like the Z06 Hardtops & Verts loose some of that space though because you can't go as high up like you can in the Coupe model.
Regarding your C5, go for an MGW Shifter over the Hurst. I have the MGW in my C5 Z06 and I love it. No missed shifts for me.
My buddy's C6 Z06 has the MGW- now that I am used to the Hurst I will have to go for a test drive in his and contrast the two. It has been a while since I drove his but my memory is they feel very similar vs the stock shifters. Thanks for the input!
Nicely done, thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it sir 😊
Very much appreciate your insight. Was shopping for a C6 6.2 but love the C5 style. Not the interior so much. Besides seats and maybe an up to date intergrated Navigation replacement, any suggestions for a reasonably priced interior upgrade?
Not really, seats, steering wheel and head unit make the biggest differences if you are not fond of stock.
Read where the C6 corrected 100 issues with the C5 according to their head engineer. Cleaned up the rear design of the C5. Both are great Corvettes. C6 refined on the C5 generation.
I would love to see a link to that interview- sounds very interesting!
@@Toys4Life According to Chief Engineer Dave Hill, “We had really stretched to upgrade the C5 each year. We wanted to stretch again and annihilate the compromises we had been living with. We went at the new one with the idea of ‘more exciting’ but with a surprising amount of refinement that people wouldn’t believe possible at Corvette’s performance level. We wanted once again to exceed expectations, even if not in a clean-sheet way. But we knew customer expectations would be real high, and we set out to beat ‘em all.”
100 Items Corrected from C5
The team identified nearly 100 items (“dissatisfiers” as Hill calls them) that the Corvette team needed to change and/or improve based on complaints from C5 Corvette owners. Certain of these items posed a unique challenge for chief designer Tom Peters and lead exterior designer Kirk Bennison. Some of the widespread criticism the C5 received was that it was a bit large for a high-power sports car.
Reducing size and unnecessarily bulk would increase car performance and would make the Corvette more functional in crowded urban conditions - an important consideration for Europe, where GM wanted to boost Corvette sales.
www.corvsport.com/c6-corvette-evolution-superstar/
Currently debating between a 2002 C5 automatic supercharged and a 2007 C6 manual supercharged. Both in yellow and about 10k difference in price.
Corvette shopping is fun (and stressful!)
Great videos, thanks for sharing!👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
The Tmodcustom billet aluminum shifter is a great option for both the c5 and c6
Looks decent!
I spent 6 months and $1500 but I finally have two working keys for my C6 now that I can drive it a lot I have noticed I get a lot of wheel hop but it’s not when I launch the car it’s only when I shift in the second gear
I don't understand, why did it cost so much to get to working fobs for your C6? If you have wheel hop going in the second gear, do you have a broken engine or diff mount?
@@Toys4Life my local Chevy dealer had the car for a couple months and I kept a tile in the back of the car. The c6 would start when you put one of the keys in the emergency start slot in the glove box. I looked at my tile to make sure the car was at the Chevy dealer and it was 150 miles away at a park in another town. That upset me so I got the car back and had it fixed at a local shop and it needed a new remote radio, remote control, receiver module, and that had to be programmed by T2 system. I live in a pretty small town, so that’s why it took forever. On the other hand, I think my rear differential mount is starting to wear out. Also, my rear tires are pretty much gone so it tries to spin through second instead of drip like it used to so instead of new tires is going to be ordered tomorrow.
@@oler777 got it, glad it's back on the road and thanks for the explanation of what's going on 😁
Thanks buddy best video hands down.i belonged to the rice patty and from Vietnam wished i have the c5 in stick.god bless
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent comparison. I remember as a 21 year old having a 442 and that car had the exhaust right close to the starter which would eventually cause vapor lock on the car. Good luck with the car 🚘
Thank you, kindly!
I was wondering how much difference do you feel when the traction control button is turned off?
I own a C5 Coupe stock with 72000 miles
Thanks
Lou
I was wondering the same thing last year - so I tested it and scanned it. th-cam.com/video/44la0e6AoGg/w-d-xo.html
Pontiac service sign 👍🏻
You know it!
Been considering getting into a corvette as a car no. 2.
For the longest time I have been a Volvo fan, but my last 3 cars have been EVs (X, 3P and now YP).
But some times my gf is out with the Tesla and then I might need to drive the kid to a soccer practice or something.
So then maybe I should get a C5 or C6 vette, manual?
It seems like its a qiute reliable car. I can do some wrenching my self, but not major inside engine work.
However I can do like shocks, springs etc.
It would also be fun to tune it, but not sure if it can be approved in norway with supercharger. I wonder if its more leniant on the first model C5, as the EURO-1 rules came in 98 if I remember correctly.
It seems for me that 2006+ C6 is the toughest mechanically, then I read about the abs issue for the first c5.
Would do a manual car of course.
You should definitely get one if you’re doing the wrenching. And with tunes and upgraded parts, it’ll be the most fun you’ve had with a weekend car ever
Yah-but.... which one do you like better?
I've driven a base 05 and my 04Z on the Tail of the dragon (both driven hard). The 05 was very impressive. But my 04Z would just eat its lunch in the corners.
And this might suprise a lot of you.. but the fitment of interior parts on my 04Z is better than the 05 base I spent time in.
Yeah I think a C5Z is going to out handle a base C6 all day long. I'm not sure which one I like better yet, I'm slowly letting my thoughts sink in and there's always the new shiny toy syndrome that we have, I need that to fully wear off so I can compare these apples to apples.
What do you do for a living?
I worked on cars since I was about 14, worked in shops through H.S. and College and then transitioned into a non-related business field. If I worked on cars full time I wouldn't want to mess with mine in my spare time (:-). How about you?
Thanks for answering. Several TH-camrs dodge the question. I personally work in a warehouse packing automotive parts.
@@michaelm3381 Hopefully their Corvette parts?
@@Toys4Life unfortunately no, but I do have an ls1 trans am. I am a GM fan until the end.
@@michaelm3381 Beautiful car!
I sold my C5 Z06 after 3 years and ended up getting a 2006 convertible. I'd definitely say the seats are better. The seats frames are sturdier. Car is more refined/more modern feeling. The base C6 feels like a boat compared to a C5Z, though it does ride smoother. The variable assist steerting on the C6 is goofy as hell, I don't like it at all. Unless you are constantly taking fast corners in the C6, you forget it's there and when a curve comes up on the highway you will go into the lane next to you. There's like no power assist when the car is at speed but it has assist at low speeds. Doesn't feel natural and it's not intuitive. A couple important things for all LS2 Corvette owners (2005-2007):
1. The factory LS2 air intake is a hot air intake. It has no access to outside air. This is an issue on warm climates because the LS2 also comes with a tune that pulls up to 12° of ignition timing when it sees high IATs. The IAT only has to reach 113° for the ECU to pull 7° of timing, and that's easy to do with a hot air intake. My LS2 did 12.8 @ 112 mph on my Dragy in 60° air one day and 13.3 @ 108 mph in 75° air the next day. When it reached 90° out, I was down to 105-106 mph trap speeds so this is not a joke. Remove the stock air intake and install a Vararam or Corsa sealed cold air intake immediately. I did this and gained 3 mph instantly in 90° air with no other changes.
2. The factory LS2 Corvette intake manifold is the worst cathedral port intake manifold GM ever made. A FAST 102 is a direct bolt-on, 1-2 hours of labor and worth 20 hp and 20 lb/ft on a bone stock car.
I installed a FAST 102, headers, a small 224/228 cam and FTI 3000 stall and it isn't even the same car.
You make some damn good points! Question, where'd you get the 20 horsepower 20 ft pounds on a bone stock LS2 car for the fast 102 manifold. I know there's a significant gain, but I'm curious where you got those numbers?
@@Toys4Life Just searching the forums and seeing owner submitted results. Richard Holdener also did some tests.
@@Carguylogan of course I watched Richard's stuff, I thought his was already a modified like 5.3 or something but anyway, I would jump all over that manifold but for 1150 bucks goodness gracious!!!
@@Toys4Life Yea it's not cheap but people spend more than that on headers and it's accepted to be worth the same gains as headers on the LS2. It makes power everywhere not just high rpm 👍. Mine made 385 whp SAE thru an auto with long tubes and a FAST 102 and tune.
@@Carguylogan stock LS2s are about 350 I think, right??
Great vid!
Can you make a video on c6 parts that would fit on the c5 ?
That would be interesting (:-)
@@Toys4Life only if you can manage
Great Information
Glad you think so!
Thank you
The only 2 things I wish that could be programmed in to the C5 from the C6 is the way the windows crack open every time the door is opened (indexing I think they call it, seals better) and the ability to put a Pedal Commander to adjust throttle response.
Also thanks for the great content and comparison as usual.
Appreciate that, sir!
Thanks
Welcome
Awesome mate. Well I quite dislike the looks of the C6... And always said the C5 is ONE OF THE MOST spectacular and gorgeous Corvettes...despite the bad quality plastic parts it has. The C6 looks with much less elegance and pedigree (IMO).
Cheers from Spain.
Cheers back at you, sir!
Thanks 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
Ive talked to owners of both, and the ones I've talked to have been pretty much all in that the C5 rides a bit better, and has a bit more roomy interior....
Update?
I'm 6'3" tall, and the first thing I noticed when I sold my C5 and got into my C6 was a noticeable reduction in legroom. One of the only things I dont like better in the C6 though.....great sports car for the money. LS3, Z51, 3LT, NPP exhaust.....lots of bang for the buck!
Sorry , i will always love the lines of tye c5 over the c6. That being said im shopping for a c6 z06. Because i wont ever let my c5 go.
what im hearing is get a new catless exhaust for your c6 and there's relatively no heat problems😁
I imagine headers impact C6's less (than the C5's) with heat gain as the C5 cats are further under the car.
Get an LS3 air filter and intake, apparently It’s a Z06 unit
Interesting - What about it is better?
@@Toys4Life flows more air…. Sort of like changing your stock air intake with a cold air one.
C6 is a far better car. Better engines , better transmissions , better looking , far better interior
What a nerd! Just kidding, wouldn't be here I wasn't looking for nerdy little details like this too, excellent break down! Can't wait to here the rest of your thoughts on the C6.
Yeah, part of it's a little OCD.
You’re shittin’ me, right? Comparing Supercharged mod C5 to a stock C6 in any way seems a little odd, to say the least.
Same goes for other mods, like Shifter etc.
Any Gear Head knows, you throw enough Money at a Toilet-bowl and it’ll go fast.
I fail to see the point of this video, Bud.
But that’s just me……..
BTW, love my C6 Conv!
If you watched further you would have seen I compared stock to stock as well, 😔
this comparison is not real - the c5 does not have a supercharger when sold. Put a SC on the c6 then it is a real comparison
If you watched a little bit further you would have seen that I compared stock to stock and clearly stated the LS2 C6 would be quicker faster and more powerful. All other comparisons are relevant.
Show more leg 😀
Ok next time
Seats, both suck lol
For sure, if you just got out of a c8.
My C5 Z seats sucked. My base C6 seats are a LOT better. It's not about the bolstering or foam, it's the frames. The C5 seats were floppy and flexy, and I bought my Z with only 15,000 miles. My C6 seats are much sturdier.