After that stream, PGG commented further regarding the Boneshaker saying that based on their Data, the win rate of the Boneshakers online isn't as "OP" as many people claimed. It is disappointing that this is PGG's stance on this. Judging a car's performance from win rate is an extremely bad way of balancing. No other competitive multiplayer games balance based on win rate. By that logic if only 1 person brings a Peel P50 online and wins which results in a 100% win rate, does that mean the Peel P50 is OP? No. But everything on the Boneshaker is meaningless now because Barrett Jackson car pack has 2 OP A-class cars that can almost rival the Boneshaker. I guess that's one way to balance A-class. Introduce more broken OP cars.
I wonder if their data is "percent of Boneshaker's that entered a race who won" or "percent of races won by Boneshaker" because most of the races Nick was in had 3 Boneshakers which could leave boneshakers with 100% win rate (assuming a boneshaker won every race) or a 33% win rate, depending on how they measure it.
Thats what i heard as a nerf, not reduce the proper performance of the car it self, but just step up the IP to make it legit. I hope PG will see that vidéo, 'cause this car ruin A Class ranked races for everyone who play legitimely.
Buys the car Gets the car puts a tune on car that is called"GRIP MONSTER" proceeds to forget he put on a tune called "GRIP MONSTER" and says "This its just the grip"\ me : face palming my forhead
Here's a challenge for you or other people to try: transform a Formula Drift car into a grip car! I already made it possible with the Nissan 240 and it's a pretty good S1 car, absolute 0 drift and pretty fast
I've done LOTS of testing/gathering data: Bone Shaker is *great* in A road, BUT there's many cars on-par with it or better (ex. Shelby Daytona). Where Bone Shaker truly dominates is *A RALLY*; Nothing compares. Even its biggest weakness (understeer due to wide rear wheelbase) is less noticable due to the reduced friction on dirt paths. NOTE: Also great in *S1 RALLY*, but doesn't sit in S1 Rally top-tiers alone.
I think they should make the time to shift way slower. It kinda would make sense because the car shifts before your character's hand reaches all the way up
I don't think it's just the performance advantage of the boneshaker that creates those winning margins. better drivers tend to go with the fastest cars because they know the meta and thus it's very common to see those cars at the top
funny thing is the bone shaker is just a heavily modified version of a Tbucket mustang so technically it is real but not entirely real if you know where im getting at
It's funny to think the rear tyres on this car are as big as a modern F1 car. Also, this car is also a beast in offroad races, I used it in 3 online adventures and won every single race but one.
@Austin King the first couple minutes after releasing a video the quality usually goes only to 360p, and it's TH-cam's problem, it has nothing to do with phones. (I think, I just might be talking out of my ass tbh)
i don’t like to crash into other players but if it is a bone shaker i go full terminator mode. i literally hate it even though i have one myself, it is so much more fun when players can compete with each other without people in boneshakers just driving past you even though you go full send.
It would be alright to leave the Bone Shaker op as it is, the problem is that you cant buy it if i remember correctly. Noone puts them even onto the auction house. So everyone who missed the event back then is kinda screwed. Its the best offroad A class too, only race where it struggles is the crosscountry.
Funny part is, DJS's tune (No offense) is one of the worst ways to build the car in terms of overall pace. The fastest build will make that boneshaker look like any other A class car
Oddly enough, the new Barret Jackson Ford "Hula Girl" '32 Coupe is a contender against the Bone Shaker for A-class. Totally surprised me, but it's absolutely true.
i dont understand how the devs can be so clueless and ignorant about things in their game, people have been asking for things like being able to choose what class you want to race since day one and its still not in the game
Boneshaker = OP
I always lose to it in multiplayer
Yeah why only 360p??
Also more MESX pls
pls do a Bugatti drift build.
this video is from with live?
I use that car in Rocket League
I think forza needs a trade system so you dont need to use the auction house to trade
no way. people will start selling cars for real money with this system
You used to be able to gift cars to people
@@vikon92 whats wrong with that?
Виталий Королёв people do anyway
Auction house is a scam
8:55 Don't blame me for your inability to keep the car on the road! :')
Ha
Lol, also I am a huge fan.
wolfs, the one who muted me, the koenigsegg fan
What happened at 8:58?
Ha
No matter how powerful a character, a car, or a weapon is in just about any videogame, nothing can defeat a tree
I AM GROOOOOT!
@@kanark664 and i am your mom
Amen brotha
I wish my life was as smooth as this car
Ditto
The only car kid that plays that’s a fat whoosh
Ditto
Oof
@The only car kid that plays. r/woosh?
After that stream, PGG commented further regarding the Boneshaker saying that based on their Data, the win rate of the Boneshakers online isn't as "OP" as many people claimed. It is disappointing that this is PGG's stance on this. Judging a car's performance from win rate is an extremely bad way of balancing. No other competitive multiplayer games balance based on win rate. By that logic if only 1 person brings a Peel P50 online and wins which results in a 100% win rate, does that mean the Peel P50 is OP? No.
But everything on the Boneshaker is meaningless now because Barrett Jackson car pack has 2 OP A-class cars that can almost rival the Boneshaker. I guess that's one way to balance A-class. Introduce more broken OP cars.
I wonder if their data is "percent of Boneshaker's that entered a race who won" or "percent of races won by Boneshaker" because most of the races Nick was in had 3 Boneshakers which could leave boneshakers with 100% win rate (assuming a boneshaker won every race) or a 33% win rate, depending on how they measure it.
If everyone is super no one is super
Overwatch
I watch your videos ISuckAtDriving.
**War Thunder intensifies**
Getting off topic forza needs a new default spoiler
Yes
true looks like my nan on a Monday arvo
Or just more varieties. There are like 3 spoiler varieties.
trust me
Or make the aftermarket ones adjustable
Don't nerf it
Just up the class
Exactly what I was gonna say
Thats what i heard as a nerf, not reduce the proper performance of the car it self, but just step up the IP to make it legit.
I hope PG will see that vidéo, 'cause this car ruin A Class ranked races for everyone who play legitimely.
Yea this would be the best option, I dont see why playground games doesnt do this
Technically that is a Nerf
That would mess with people who thought they had an A-class car and now discover they can't race it because it's S1.
The most OP A class car is actually the Peel p50. If you can drive it properly that is
lol
properly, and when you get hit 1 time you are last
Tbh that is almost true cuz if the light weight
FAX 😂😂😂
@@DuckyDaChef Printer
Buys the car
Gets the car
puts a tune on car that is called"GRIP MONSTER"
proceeds to forget he put on a tune called "GRIP MONSTER"
and says "This its just the grip"\
me : face palming my forhead
It is also very grippy stock with rwd drivetrain
I know lol
well other cars arent able to sustain the grip
@@zerou24 r/whoosh
Is the car a dlc car?
Here's a challenge for you or other people to try: transform a Formula Drift car into a grip car! I already made it possible with the Nissan 240 and it's a pretty good S1 car, absolute 0 drift and pretty fast
I tried it too, but failed
Hola!
SomeonefromArgentina dude i love doing that
I was at it for 1 hour and finally got it, your right it’s a good car
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Suggestion: Just make it S1 stock, it won't be OP in A, and there are better cars in S1.
István Lőrinczi nah viper for s1
@@Mysohvaperuna There are better cars than the Viper.
Dániel Vérten which are?.?
@@tiestolqa146 yeah, it's called Ditch Car.
Boneshaker: * has 405 tires *
Nick: It's too grippy!!!!!
For the record, there’s about 30 bone shakers in real life
You always sound like your shouting 😂
Loud = funny :)
@@nickthompson1812 yes
I still haven’t found any A-class better than the ‘65 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 …pop some vintage race tires and a rear wing in it, and it’s unbeatable.
You should make a vid on double down Ford coupe 32. It can have 1800hp
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“Welcome back to Fortsa Horizon 4”
All in good spirits, not making fun of you
Thats how u spell Forza 👀 it's an Italian word
Says that one that has a PS4 controller on profile picture lol
Just joking I agree
@@dennisschmitz485 If it"s spelled Forzza, then it would be pronounced Fortza, but it's Forza.
@@lancia-037 It's astonishing how obvious it is that you have no knowledge of the Italian language.
@@realwhitebean7090 Pizza... Mozzarella... italian, double z, "tz".
man who has mastered the peel p50 in A class:
*scoffs* pathetic
I've done LOTS of testing/gathering data: Bone Shaker is *great* in A road, BUT there's many cars on-par with it or better (ex. Shelby Daytona).
Where Bone Shaker truly dominates is *A RALLY*; Nothing compares. Even its biggest weakness (understeer due to wide rear wheelbase) is less noticable due to the reduced friction on dirt paths.
NOTE: Also great in *S1 RALLY*, but doesn't sit in S1 Rally top-tiers alone.
The easiest way for noobs to win in online 😂
Yes Feuerrm you are here AWESOME!!
I think they should make the time to shift way slower. It kinda would make sense because the car shifts before your character's hand reaches all the way up
The bone shaker in fh3 was nearly an OP drag car but nobody cared about it.
H3 has no competitive and no one gives a shit about drag racing in forza beside the airport drag guys who would get clapped by the v12 dart
in hotwheels the Baja Bone Shaker is actually a van
They need to put in under glow for cars and make it so you can turn on and off your lights on cars
2000lbs/400hp???? This is realistically how powerful it would be
If I had 25¢ for every time Nick said Forza Horizon 4 🧐
You'd be Bill Gates 2.0
You’d be broke cause he says Fortza not Forza
HypaRadarex Dude Nick pronounces forza correctly
And now we have the track-tor for b-class that is even more op than the bone shaker on a-class
Every car they’ve added in the past week has been op
This was added like two months ago
@@ironpizza5150 it was added 5 months ago.
speaking of issues with the pi system ... the 65' mustang can reach 1000hp in a class easily with the 6.2 v8
boneshaker (nick) against dj and other mods, and confirm the experience
I don't think it's just the performance advantage of the boneshaker that creates those winning margins. better drivers tend to go with the fastest cars because they know the meta and thus it's very common to see those cars at the top
YOU KNOW U ARE EARLY WHEN YOU CAN ONLY WATCH IN 360P
There is also the hot wheels rip rod, its very rare though,
Its also a really good rally/off-road car
It's not.
@@maureenlyons7858 kinda is
@@zacharyclemens9544 i have it and it sucks...
Love your vids nick
Been subbed to you since forza horizon2 and you never fail to impress me with your vids
Keep up the great work
The bone shaker is an incredible non X class drag car as well
i always thought when ever i saw it i am like "i am so screwed lets restart the game"
Looks fine to me lol. We're talkin about an engine with very little metal (compared to other cars) attached to it
Nick you need to do a drift adventure in A class AWD. I did this as a Joke and absolutely destroyed the competition
Cody Boisvert i did that with a slow rwd tune for the gsx and i came first every event
0:30 They also added the Rip Rod around the same time as the other three.
why not try that S1 900 tune, wonder if it's also op in another class to
The truth is Nick that you are really good at this game
The car simply doesn’t turn, maybe because it grips to much
funny thing is the bone shaker is just a heavily modified version of a Tbucket mustang so technically it is real but not entirely real if you know where im getting at
@stock and static forgot to mention tbuckets are dumbo rare as like in the last 15 years iv only ever seen 2 tbuckets
That ending
Fireprofcargo7 I am a fan.
It's funny to think the rear tyres on this car are as big as a modern F1 car.
Also, this car is also a beast in offroad races, I used it in 3 online adventures and won every single race but one.
This thing in A class is good but the Shelby Daytona is better
Carlos no actually
Boneshaker is better than the Daytona. The Atomic Punk and HulaGirl Roadster are also better than the Daytona.
Nick the type of dude to brake on every corner
And brake on every light even when it changes from green to amber😂
Here when its only 360p :)))
Lol
Right 😂😂
Austin King .... ofc its youtube why ya flexing in youtube?😂
@Austin King the first couple minutes after releasing a video the quality usually goes only to 360p, and it's TH-cam's problem, it has nothing to do with phones. (I think, I just might be talking out of my ass tbh)
SO EARLY ITS 144P
The Bone shaker is also OP AF at drifting if you hold the E-brake
"It doesn't look fast" but it looks like it give pruis cars otisum
The bone shaker actually exists
that edit at the end LMAO
Imagine a quartz regalia type-d with 3000 hp and more downforce than the senna. That’s what this feels like
When your so early it’s 360p
Nick: Boneshaker = OP
Me: Peel P50 =OP
All the times nick said bone shocker is this many
👇
No 9
Allen Acuna damn you really need to understand a joke
That doesn’t make sense anyways lmao stfu like beggar
None, because he said Bone Shaker, not Bone Shocker.
i just liked because it was at 68 likes
All they need to do is adjust how the pi system works with the car, but then again they don't want to start changing cars that are already in the game
We need mickey mouse gloves in fh4 just for the bone shaker
Title: Is this car too fast?
Thumbnail: This car's too fast!!!
I've had that forever. Is it really that good?
DJBATMANGOLD same
I’ve always thought you was a pro at driving in forza horizon 4
Makes a Video about a fast car
that isnt fast just grippy
bamboozled
WHY DO U HAVE MY PROFILE PICTURE?
@@aybrktrhn Credits belong to Russianbadger, if you dont know him then i wont even reply anymore
This is intressting
@@Torenovski your profile pics are facing different directions
Ayberk Tarhan WHY DO YOU?? WHAT IS HAPPENING??!!
i don’t like to crash into other players but if it is a bone shaker i go full terminator mode. i literally hate it even though i have one myself, it is so much more fun when players can compete with each other without people in boneshakers just driving past you even though you go full send.
Is it weird that i got one a while back trough a wheelspin and just got second one. Or am i super lucky?
You can't get them from wheelspins, it was at Forzathon shop twice and once as a reward for a seasonal event
It would be alright to leave the Bone Shaker op as it is, the problem is that you cant buy it if i remember correctly. Noone puts them even onto the auction house. So everyone who missed the event back then is kinda screwed. Its the best offroad A class too, only race where it struggles is the crosscountry.
How come I didn’t get a notification on twitch when you were streaming?
khhqk yup, would love to watch it.
The simple solution to people having the boneshaker is to get a boneshaker, they are only op if you are in something else.
Yes it's way too OP lol
boneshaker beats the rtr mustang and is one of the fastest drag car buy it now
360p squad where you at fam?
im here
Here
Gabriel Chavez yes g
Here
This kind of reminds me of the warthog in FH3. Every cross-country race had those and if you didn't have one, you would not win.
Bonershaker. Hmm sounds like #nickcantpenetrate (OLD MEME)
Bone shaker and Shelby Daytona seem to be the meta cars now for A class.
Can you make a tiny car with an obscenely powerful engine then go “race” people please? Please like so he can see and try this.
He already did that with the peel P50
ERROR 404
Just imagine a drag race 2cv with huge rear tires
It's honestly not an OP car it just has tons of grip, as long as you know how to take corners then its not a hard car to beat.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! I SOLD MINE. FUUUUCK.
Welcome back to fordza horizon 4
Had to turn down the volume, just couldn't stand it anymore
*_It's not loud at all_*
Funny part is, DJS's tune (No offense) is one of the worst ways to build the car in terms of overall pace. The fastest build will make that boneshaker look like any other A class car
What was written on 8:55?
FalconGamer58 when is it ok to beat dwarves
@@callumfarrell4687 why is it censored?
I don't know🤔
Cool man, im always happy when a new vid comes, you are the best!
360p squad where you at?
1080
144p squad were you at?
Sorry, bro.
I joined 1080p squad years ago.
Oddly enough, the new Barret Jackson Ford "Hula Girl" '32 Coupe is a contender against the Bone Shaker for A-class. Totally surprised me, but it's absolutely true.
I use the hoola girl all the time it eats bone shakers
No views 45likes=you tube logic
Just increase drag by 1-2%. You can't see that stat so they can stealth nerf it without most people noticing.
I
Yes it is too fast nick
*too fast, too furious*
Act a fool!!!
1st
Edit:mabe not 😞
it's reece gaming I know what maybe is but not mabe.
5:53
The dude just turned in to you and got punted away
When you see someone with your clan tag, me: it’s a small world
BONESHAKER!!!!!! OMG ITS IN THE GAME??? That was the only big thing in my childhood.
i dont understand how the devs can be so clueless and ignorant about things in their game, people have been asking for things like being able to choose what class you want to race since day one and its still not in the game
I love when playground games were telling people they are not going to nerf they were driving an op ferria 599 xx evo
Watched it as soon as I went on TH-cam so good bro keep it up 👌✌️
Loving your videos
*BONE SHAKER BATTLES* for life
Keep up the good work nick👍👍
I think I missed this car when it came out, which is a shame.
When the car wants to stay on the road but the driver can’t