Unfortunately this has been the situation for a good number of years from some manufacturers, like when the first model Walther P22 was released around 15 years ago. When it comes to potential life or death situations, gun owners should not be the Guinea pigs.
I have had quality control issues with products from S&W and Remington as well in the past. Hopefully Colt learns from this. I do appreciate the video and explanation, something some companies would never do.
@@patrickmartin8302 , Also had bad luck with Remington and Stevens. The Remington Express 870 I bought back in the 1990's no problems but Remington's quality of gun went down the tubes. Steel not as good and smooth as their older ones. If I known this at the time I would have gone with the Mossberg. And some years back checked out some of Remington model 700's and not impressed at all. Of course they were a few years old and used, but still, very bad quality from Remington. The bolts did not slide properly in and out like they supposed to be designed to do. So went with a older Win model 70. Not to mention after that is when I learned that Remington safety's did not work and they had numbers of law suits. And also not to mention when Remington took H&R and Marlin over then H&R and Marlin went down the tubes for a while. Think the best rifles and shotguns Remington has made is their pumps, which I am consider on buying an older Remington pump rifle in the 30-06 or 308 Win. Think the only way I will get another Remington is if I buy one that was built before the 1980's, then I probably be safe. Did have a problem with a Stevens double barrel shotgun that I bought many years ago. But the other older Stevens single shot shotgun bought a few years ago, no problems.
@Thomas Olson My comment was that the firearm should be checked and in perfect working and appearance before leaving the factory. The customer shouldn't have to find these defects and have to return a brand new pistol.
To Colt: better late than never. Thank you GoldenWebb for staying on top of this issue from day one. It may have been a bitter pill for Colt to acknowledge their problems, but keeping it public likely helped them prioritize implementing several fixes. Colt, and future Python customers, will benefit from your proactive involvement. I can now look forward to owning one as well.
The fact you dropped the AR line from your products for the public and replaced it with this????? Very disappointed. Bring back the AR and dump this before it ruins the reputation.
@@Wasatchmodelworks It was a business decision nothing more. Why make a product that very few were buying. Colt Ar's were over priced in todays market.
I appreciate y'all finally addressing this head on. I've had an order placed for about 6-7 weeks. Zero word from the dealer on when they expect to receive their first shipment from Colt (yes they're an authorized dealer)
Colt - hats is off to you for communicating this all back to us. I'm glad to see you guys are taking this seriously - I want one of these, I've always wanted a Python. But $2500 for an old one is well beyond my means as a working man. The current price is fine. Just remember these are always thought of as bank vault tight lockup and reliable and perfect pieces of craftmanship. Please keep that alive!
Colt, you'll never get over these issues with your current leadership. You need to ax the ceo and any other desk jockeys who rushed this pos to market. Quality starts at the top.
This thing was in development for probably at least 2-3 years. Plus all the whining and complaining on social media "bring back the Python already" etc, probably caused them to speed up the production process.
@@colinj5291 whining or no whining, there shouldn't have been issues with this. And it's not like this is the first time they released a python, so it shouldn't have been an issue production wise. Couldn't be that hard to copy a design that's been out for years. The problem is with quality control these days. I own a heating and air conditioning business, and I can't begin to tell you how many problems and broken parts I've come across after installing a brand new rooftop or residential system. QC is just out the doors these days. It's all about quantity over quality now. They don't care if it breaks on you, because you'll be back to get it fixed, and they still made money regardless.
@@rmk4381 QC has been fired and the end user has taken that job. Pump the production out and leave the satisfaction up to the end user. Some will complain, some won't, money saved.
Colt STILL needs to get it's Customer Service act together. It literally takes DAYS to get through to a real person, and then it's always the same poor guy. PUT SOME PEOPLE ON THE PHONES. Colt makes dealing with the DMV look like a vacation.
It took several attempts for me to get through yesterday. I did notice they are hiring for customer service. Hopefully that will lessen the wait times.
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@@gerryk3114 - LOL, must not have been a Texas DMV!!
So to summarize, Yankee Marshall (and i know you are reading this) there actually is a problem with the revolver and not solely user error. Im sure Hickoc will be relieved to learn that he is not a limp wristed tally wacker.
So now they don't want you to take the side plate off or tighten it yourself. What happens if we want to take it apart for cleaning in the future, would we have to send it back to the factory every time? Sounds like there might be another problem they aren't being forthcoming about.
Boy! This a Colt? Prestige, cost, history. Loose screws and poor machining? What has this world come to? Sounds like they're trying to get rich with poor workmanship. Very disappointed.
Back in the late '70s early '80s I had a 6" blued Python (it actually looked black) and it was simply gorgeous! When can we expect to see a blued version?
What happened? I mean honestly.. What happened? I shoot my classic Colt Python with all sorts of ammunition and it always goes bang. You have an existing model you can just carbon copy, what the hell happened?
Seems that Colt strategically waited until AFTER Shot Show to publicly acknowledge and address all of these issues. Personally I don't think that was a good strategy but better late than never.
Is there a new serial number range for the updated Pythons? How will I know before I buy a new Python? I fear so many people bought the new Pythons as Collectors items and will not know they have a defective gun. Then when they sale them years later the new owner will have a defective gun. Most guns' warranties are only for the original owners. So they would be SOL. How is Colt going to address these problems? Thank You
Is a 6 pound single action and off the trigger pull scale / heavier than ANY of my other 25 revolvers double action trigger pull within spec? Just curious why my brand new, very expensive Python would have a worse trigger than any other revolver I've ever owned? Colt will be hearing more from me.
@@doghouse916 - LOL ... Barrett isn't going to make enough guns for all of us ... and most of us don't want a .50 cal. sniper rifle that weights 20 lbs and shoots ammo that cost $2.00 per round.
Poor design on the hand, Smith and Wesson has the hand run in a slot with tight tolerances. You can cycle the revolver with the side plate off with no problem.
Your right. I’m not buying the loose side plate as suggested by Colt repair. They also stated that the screws may have been loose from the factory and that the need to be installed with a proper torque. I have owned numerous revolvers and years ago we tightened the screws by feel and they never looses nor fell out.
@@Briarbuddy I don't know about the Colt, but I did have a S&W 686 that had screws that ended up backing out causing failures in the gun (mostly light primer strikes that I recall). I had to either use a good thread locker or check the tension on the screws regularly or the gun would "shoot loose" over time.
@Logan Waltz It's been a few years, but IIRC, the most annoying one was the set screw or whatever it was called that tensioned the main spring that loosened, backed out, and eventually meant that the hammer didn't really even function any more. This was after much dry fire, but not many thousands of actual rounds. I didn't know what was going on at the time (being relatively new) and so I took it to a gunsmith and they immediately cracked open the grips, tightened up that screw, applied some thread locker, and all was well again for that revolver, without further incident.
2:37 explained an issue I was having with my Python. I would shoot double action, keep my finger in the trigger guard and cock the hammer back and it would lock like it is supposed to, but when I would shoot nothing would happen and there was no indication of light primer strike. So thanks for the clarity in that.
I picked up a python in dec 2020. Multiple range trips and I have occasional light primer strikes. I load my ammo with starline brass and cci primers. Both high quality saami specs.
Same problem here but my Python was bought new Jan. 2023! I also use Starline brass and CCI primers and have a misfire almost every cylinder full in DA mode. NONE of my older Pythons were unreliable.
Can't find the python anywhere, some gun shops are taking back orders at $1,899 a pop! *Bud Gun Shop has the 4.25 model for $2,199 the price gouging is real!
I’m sure if you are experienced, probably not a problem. Most owners are not experienced with revolver lockwork under the plate. (All revolvers) A few things can go wrong by reinstalling the parts wrong. Plus if Colt doesn’t see what wrong, they can’t fix the production line
Look, I purchased a Colt Python 357 6inch stainless. In my local Gun store, I am 8th on the special order list and I paid full price $1595.00 plus tax. Its been 3 months since my order went through to Colt.
So, next BIG question. What’s the turn around for getting them checked out? I’ve had one of another brand gone for 4 weeks and they didn’t even look at it.
This video makes it perfectly clear that Colt is a premier manufacturer fo premium firearms. My Colts are some of my most prized possessions, right down ti my father's 50+ year old Detective Special. Not only is the new Python gorgeous, it is a redesigned with technological innovations. With this kind of innovation, comes flaws and hiccups. People have been chiming up all over the internet and TH-cam against Colt. Colt gave us the product that we wanted. It did have some flaws, rather that denying it, Colt got it in front of it. Alamyzed the issues, transparently broadcasted the issues with solutions and is having owners with problems send the guns back so that they can be properly repaired for a lifetime of enjoyable shooting. THANK YOU COLT!!! Can't wait to put a new Python next to my 1952.
It would be nice to see Colt change the rollmark, hammer and the trigger to look more like the old design. Would be great to see a cylinder stop on the frame, too
Premier Manufacturers don't release a firearm before all the testing and kinks have been worked out. These are weapons, and some purchasers might use them for home defense. Their lives and the lives of their families literally dependant upon them being reliable. Colt failed miserably and if it wasn't for the Internet and buyers hearing from each other about the problems, Colt would have circled it's wagons and swept everything under the carpet. Remember it took months of daily reviews and owners spending days on the phone to reach someone at Colt to get a resolution to this problem.
If you can consistently turn the problem on/off with loose/tight side plate, then it will confirm Colt's statement. The trick is not going so loose that you damage other components or create a dangerous situation while shooting. Perhaps a dry fire test would be the safest approach.
I would sure buy the spring kit! The original spring feels good but if it don't work? Parts are around for the originals, but not even a screw for the new one! That sucks Colt!
Alright Colt. I just purchased my Colt Python on July 24, 2021 at my local gun shop in Southern California. The gun shop stated they received the Python a few days ago. I now have 10 days to pick it up because I live in California. I don't recall seeing any cosmetic issues. Are there any internal issues I need to be aware of? Are there certain serial numbers that was recalled?
I just received my brand new Colt Anaconda and it’s having the same issues with the cycle of the cylinder not turning, what do I need to do to send this piece of steel back to you so it’s “fixed “?
I'm sure you are using DC torque drivers in the assembly of these guns, and they let you know when full torque is achieved. If side plates are loose then there is another issue ie. shallow threads in the holes, screw length that is out of spec. etc. If parts are to print and proper torque is achieved, thread locker is not necessary.
I'm glad this is put to bed. My one want now is, where are the front sights? You've said that the 2020 Python was made to take advantage of the King Cobra front sights, so you have lots of options. The problem is the options are few and far between, and wrong for a 6" target revolver. I don't want a fiber optic front sight on my Python, nor do I want the red ramp. Where are the pat front or gold bead sights?
Are you guys at colt going to fix the light primer strikes yourself or will people have to take them to a gunsmith so this issue is less likely to happen?
How is it not perfect? How is it expensive? This recall is more about the shooter than the firearm. Making it for the masses. The price is only a little more expensive than it was in 1966. EPA and OSHA taxes are enough to raise the price.
Settle down. Geez. Every company at every level has had a production issue with a new product. And yes, this is a new product. It's how they address the problem now. Of course it's a shame some are having the issue, but let's not rush to judgment just yet.
I bought a new Cobra when the came out and had to send it back to Colt twice the first year. Colts repair took so long each time that Colt had my Cobra for total of 7 months the first year so they had my Cobra in their possession longer than I did. So, I'm not very impressed by their product or their service...especially for what you have to pay for them!
@@Twigz11 The first time I sent it back they replaced the hammer and the second time was to replace a broken firing pin. haven't had any problems since then.
What about the looseness in the rear sight? There is a significant amount of side to side looseness where the sight attaches to the frame at the roll pin. Can cause a lot of innacuracy.
When I open the cylinder there is a "J" stamp. I've been told an "L" stamp indicates the light hammer strike issue has been addressed. What does the "J" stamp indicate?
I have a theory of how your introducing drag on your trigger return. Check your transfer bars for being too thick. Or cylinder pin protruding too far. I’m also guessing the firing pin is about .005”-.015” too short. That sucks because your transfer bar and hammers are all scrap if that’s true. Good luck guys
Thanks Colt for acknowledging the Python defects and working to correct the problems , and not trying to hide or deny the problems. You don't know how much an honest approach is appreciated.
What about the reports of loose rear sights? I watched a video on how to 'fix' the issue; but after spending over 2 Grand on your product, why should I have to make an aluminum shim from a soda can, to sure up my rear sight?
So are these series 2020 pythons going to have a recall or will there be a way to buy 1 straight from Colt ? The retail price is going up of course depending on the sellers and to buy the pistol for a higher price than the 1500$ retail price just to have light primer strikes issues or cylinder not rotating would be a huge bummer.
If you are going to start gluing the screws you might want to switch to a different screw head. The standard slot screws are going to get mared when they are removed to service the internals
What about the major problem that most speed loaders don't work with the factory wooden grips? I have tried HKS and SL Variants with both 38SPL and 357Mag and the speed loaders interferes with the grips and DO NOT WORK.
I've owned many Colt revolvers. The lock work is very reliable because it was originally designed for military use. Screws on ANY revolver should be checked for tightness especially when new or after any firing. It's a common problem with all revolvers. It's normal maintenance procedure as well as Loctite use. My complaint is that unlike the older Python, parts ARE NOT available. These guns are not hand fitted so why? Why the pressed in firing pin? The FP on the original Python was easily replaced just by removing the rear sight? Many of us savy revolver owners hate to send a gun back to the manufacturer, especially for simple repairs.
The new updated hammer spring is a valid engineering fix for light primer strikes. The issue with the loose side plate screws has me wondering about the thread spec's of the threaded holes. During manufacturing were the minor dia. of the holes out of tolerance (too large)? Where the internal threads even checked with a thread gauge? I'm thinking the internal threads were made to a very sloppy 1B spec when it should be a close tolerance 3B spec. Same goes for the screw. Was the screw major dia. undersize? Was the thread spec of the screw made to a sloppy 1A spec or a close tolerance 3A spec? Locktite on the screws is not an engineering fix. IT'S A BANDAID!!!!!!!! I still do not have confidence in the reliability of the new Python. I would love to walk through the manufacturing floor and help Colt identify root cause for the Python failures and implement a corrective action plan.
Bought a brand new Colt Python 4.25 for my first revolver. I shot it for the first time today. Using federal .38 special. Malfunctions after malfunctions is what I experienced. Cylinder was binding in both single & double action. Hammer and trigger were getting stuck. Sometimes the cylinder would not close. RSO also shot my revolver and experienced the same malfuncs with a new box of ammo. I never cowboy’d it, minimally dry fired, I made sure to completely come off the trigger for proper reset. Had a proper grip. Not even 50 rounds were fired. And as of now it has completely locked up and cylinder will not open. Very disappointed. Has completely destroyed my joy for this gun.
Vice president of distribution: Ship them out now, let the customer proof test and work out all the defects. If they call, just refer them to fluff and buff video and tell them they are limp wristing. Also tell them Remington guns do the same thing.
Ordered & paid for my 4 inch Python January 3rd. Still waiting. Hope I won’t need to send it back. Hopefully Colt has fired some Industrial Engineers ( Methods) and they have hired some inspectors. Six Sigma didn’t prevent this disaster did it Colt?
Thank you for your honesty! Very refreshing to see this in today’s world! Any word on royal blue versions? 4in Python crosses the line from a firearm into a timeless piece of art. Cheers from Toronto, Canada!
I recently bought a new Colt King Cobra (2019 model). Love the gun, and am not having any problems with it. After hearing of the issues some were having with their new Pythons and a loose sideplate screw being the likely cause, I decided to check the sideplate screw on my King Cobra. Sure enough, it was loose. Very loose in fact. I haven't locktited it yet but I did tighten it down. Will definitely be putting a drop of blue locktite on that screw for peace of mind. Thanks for the video, Colt. I hope to have a Python of my own one day.
Here is a question I have for Colt on my 3 inch Python, i noticed there is Cylinder movement both ways even when the hammer is locked back there is still movement is this normal.
Colt really needs to work these issues out before releasing the weapons for sale. A $1500 pistol should NOT be having issues out of the box. I recently bought one of Colts new 1911 retro pistols and it can’t fire off a 7 shot magazine with out having at least 1 stove pipe. I saved for months to buy this pistol at $1,000. Just dropped it off at the dealer so it can be sent back to Colt for repair. Brand new 1k 1911 that I won’t be able to shoot for probably 90-120 days smh.
Just got my 1911 back from Colt. Fired 100rds and it’s still has stove pipes. I don’t know if I should take the loss and sell it or send it back to Colt AGAIN for repair. Unreal.
@@peterstenbuck8806 True. I had a GP100 that spit lead out the sides of the cylinder gap, painfully, when using full power ammo. But then, that's a Ruger, expectations are low. And it wasn't $1500.
Will never buy another Colt product. I made the mistake of buying a Night Cobra, and the trigger reset is crunchy with five false resets. I have owned numerous revolvers and none have ever had crunchy false resets on the trigger. Almost feel like I have to grab the trigger and pull it forward to shoot it again. S&W trigger springs back to reset without any crunch and with force. Now this whole mess with a 1000 dollar+ handgun just goes to show that Colt lost its way.
Hey just bought a colt python 4 inch barrel brand new one and when the cylinder is out and the gun is tilted back it almost seems like it is not spinning smooth compared to if its tilted forward. Just wondering if that is regular or if something is wrong.
I assume by this time all Pythons being produced now have had the needed adjustments. Do you plan to post the serial number ranges of the earlier ones that may have a problem and the new ones that have been fixed before they left the factory?
The side plate would almost have to be failing off for the hand to move out that far. If you look at the videos on line showing the malfunctions there is be notable lifting off the side plate. And why would the screws be that loose coming from the factory? He should have stroked that action with the side plate off and that cylinder would have turned.
Not Sure if anyone else has seen this.. but I noticed it on both my new colts and the one in this video.. the Cylinder doesn't lock and stop turning before the hammer falls on double action..all my S&W's.. the Cylinder locks up just a fraction before hammer fall?....Is this a Timing issue???? thanks...
Well. I finally got my Colt Python 4.25 after a great deal of waiting. Was thrilled at finally getting to get it to the range and try it out. What a GREAT looking firearm, accurate as I had hoped. Shooting it in single action worked fine, empty cylinder in double action ran fine, BUT double action with 357 mags or 38 specials and the trigger would hang up. Put fired rounds in it and tried double action and the trigger would hang up. Well that said, the next day my new Colt Python is being sent back to Colt. Hopefully my fantastic looking firearm will be fixed and come back to me with fantastic trigger action.
Customers shouldn't be the quality inspection department.
Unfortunately this has been the situation for a good number of years from some manufacturers, like when the first model Walther P22 was released around 15 years ago. When it comes to potential life or death situations, gun owners should not be the Guinea pigs.
I have had quality control issues with products from S&W and Remington as well in the past. Hopefully Colt learns from this. I do appreciate the video and explanation, something some companies would never do.
@@patrickmartin8302 , Also had bad luck with Remington and Stevens. The Remington Express 870 I bought back in the 1990's no problems but Remington's quality of gun went down the tubes. Steel not as good and smooth as their older ones. If I known this at the time I would have gone with the Mossberg. And some years back checked out some of Remington model 700's and not impressed at all. Of course they were a few years old and used, but still, very bad quality from Remington. The bolts did not slide properly in and out like they supposed to be designed to do. So went with a older Win model 70. Not to mention after that is when I learned that Remington safety's did not work and they had numbers of law suits. And also not to mention when Remington took H&R and Marlin over then H&R and Marlin went down the tubes for a while. Think the best rifles and shotguns Remington has made is their pumps, which I am consider on buying an older Remington pump rifle in the 30-06 or 308 Win. Think the only way I will get another Remington is if I buy one that was built before the 1980's, then I probably be safe. Did have a problem with a Stevens double barrel shotgun that I bought many years ago. But the other older Stevens single shot shotgun bought a few years ago, no problems.
@Thomas Olson My comment was that the firearm should be checked and in perfect working and appearance before leaving the factory. The customer shouldn't have to find these defects and have to return a brand new pistol.
they learned that from oracle
I’m glad to hear this. Thank you for the update
im glad they addressed this publicly. also great that the solutions are simple.
To Colt: better late than never. Thank you GoldenWebb for staying on top of this issue from day one. It may have been a bitter pill for Colt to acknowledge their problems, but keeping it public likely helped them prioritize implementing several fixes. Colt, and future Python customers, will benefit from your proactive involvement. I can now look forward to owning one as well.
About that recall....
Nothing? No?
The fact you dropped the AR line from your products for the public and replaced it with this????? Very disappointed.
Bring back the AR and dump this before it ruins the reputation.
@@Wasatchmodelworks It was a business decision nothing more. Why make a product that very few were buying. Colt Ar's were over priced in todays market.
I appreciate y'all finally addressing this head on. I've had an order placed for about 6-7 weeks. Zero word from the dealer on when they expect to receive their first shipment from Colt (yes they're an authorized dealer)
Nuance Bro You should do some gun videos, or make a new channel for it
Stay safe Nuance....Ive seen your vids and they are mighty triggering to the lefties
Colt - hats is off to you for communicating this all back to us. I'm glad to see you guys are taking this seriously - I want one of these, I've always wanted a Python. But $2500 for an old one is well beyond my means as a working man. The current price is fine. Just remember these are always thought of as bank vault tight lockup and reliable and perfect pieces of craftmanship. Please keep that alive!
Colt shouldn't have waited so long to address the issue. They did so in a way that any consumer product lawyer would be proud.
Colt, you'll never get over these issues with your current leadership. You need to ax the ceo and any other desk jockeys who rushed this pos to market. Quality starts at the top.
lol
This thing was in development for probably at least 2-3 years. Plus all the whining and complaining on social media "bring back the Python already" etc, probably caused them to speed up the production process.
@@colinj5291 whining or no whining, there shouldn't have been issues with this. And it's not like this is the first time they released a python, so it shouldn't have been an issue production wise. Couldn't be that hard to copy a design that's been out for years. The problem is with quality control these days. I own a heating and air conditioning business, and I can't begin to tell you how many problems and broken parts I've come across after installing a brand new rooftop or residential system. QC is just out the doors these days. It's all about quantity over quality now. They don't care if it breaks on you, because you'll be back to get it fixed, and they still made money regardless.
@@rmk4381 QC has been fired and the end user has taken that job. Pump the production out and leave the satisfaction up to the end user. Some will complain, some won't, money saved.
@@mopar21 yup, exactly
Colt STILL needs to get it's Customer Service act together. It literally takes DAYS to get through to a real person, and then it's always the same poor guy. PUT SOME PEOPLE ON THE PHONES. Colt makes dealing with the DMV look like a vacation.
Or MONTHS. Their customer service is great when you actually get a hold of someone...🤷♂️
JB
ACTUALITY JB, I’ve Always Had Good Luck at the DMV !
ONLY ONCE, Years Ago Did I Get GRIEF From Them, BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT: THEY APOLOGIZED !!!!
It took several attempts for me to get through yesterday. I did notice they are hiring for customer service. Hopefully that will lessen the wait times.
@@gerryk3114 - LOL, must not have been a Texas DMV!!
CT DMV is quicker. :/
So to summarize, Yankee Marshall (and i know you are reading this) there actually is a problem with the revolver and not solely user error. Im sure Hickoc will be relieved to learn that he is not a limp wristed tally wacker.
Yankee Marshall is an oxymoron.
Why be butthurt about a pinhead attacking a shill?
So now they don't want you to take the side plate off or tighten it yourself. What happens if we want to take it apart for cleaning in the future, would we have to send it back to the factory every time? Sounds like there might be another problem they aren't being forthcoming about.
LOOSE SIDE PLATE. What I've been saying all along. lol Just please have more staff answering phones at customer service.
Boy! This a Colt? Prestige, cost, history. Loose screws and poor machining? What has this world come to? Sounds like they're trying to get rich with poor workmanship. Very disappointed.
Back in the late '70s early '80s I had a 6" blued Python (it actually looked black) and it was simply gorgeous! When can we expect to see a blued version?
I hope your right imo the royal blue was the best finish
It is possible to high polish blue electroplate over stainless. Colt has done this to a couple
What happened? I mean honestly.. What happened? I shoot my classic Colt Python with all sorts of ammunition and it always goes bang. You have an existing model you can just carbon copy, what the hell happened?
They made it cheaper without testing the new cheaper crappier guns.
@@ravenstarver1360 And now they've eliminated the issue going forward. It's in the video.....
Now all I have to do is wait for the 4" model to be available at MSRP or lower. I will not pay what people are paying on Gunbroker.
5 months later and they are still price gouging on gunbroker cause these things aren't in stock anywhere
Just picked up my 4.25 Phyton and I will let you know how it goes. , of course I expect nothing but perfection out of my Colt !😊
Seems that Colt strategically waited until AFTER Shot Show to publicly acknowledge and address all of these issues. Personally I don't think that was a good strategy but better late than never.
The right person got choked at shot show.
I’m scared to get one it has too many issues
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Is there a new serial number range for the updated Pythons?
How will I know before I buy a new Python?
I fear so many people bought the new Pythons as Collectors items and will not know they have a defective gun.
Then when they sale them years later the new owner will have a defective gun.
Most guns' warranties are only for the original owners. So they would be SOL.
How is Colt going to address these problems?
Thank You
NOT SURE I BELIEVE YOU ?
THE COSMETIC ISSUES SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED UP BEFORE IT LEFT THE FACTORY !!!
Gerry K Absolutely!!
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ESPECIALLY AT THAT PRICE !!!
They should re-name it The Democrat lol.
Is a 6 pound single action and off the trigger pull scale / heavier than ANY of my other 25 revolvers double action trigger pull within spec? Just curious why my brand new, very expensive Python would have a worse trigger than any other revolver I've ever owned? Colt will be hearing more from me.
if it won't shoot all the ammo it's chambered for it's not worth having. Ever heard of Boeing?
Ever heard of SAAMI ?
@@doghouse916 - LOL ... Barrett isn't going to make enough guns for all of us ... and most of us don't want a .50 cal. sniper rifle that weights 20 lbs and shoots ammo that cost $2.00 per round.
It should shoot cheap ammo. Period. Everything else I own does.
Poor design on the hand, Smith and Wesson has the hand run in a slot with tight tolerances. You can cycle the revolver with the side plate off with no problem.
It's almost like they thought about a sideplate coming loose when they designed it...
Your right. I’m not buying the loose side plate as suggested by Colt repair. They also stated that the screws may have been loose from the factory and that the need to be installed with a proper torque. I have owned numerous revolvers and years ago we tightened the screws by feel and they never looses nor fell out.
@@Briarbuddy I don't know about the Colt, but I did have a S&W 686 that had screws that ended up backing out causing failures in the gun (mostly light primer strikes that I recall). I had to either use a good thread locker or check the tension on the screws regularly or the gun would "shoot loose" over time.
@Logan Waltz It's been a few years, but IIRC, the most annoying one was the set screw or whatever it was called that tensioned the main spring that loosened, backed out, and eventually meant that the hammer didn't really even function any more. This was after much dry fire, but not many thousands of actual rounds. I didn't know what was going on at the time (being relatively new) and so I took it to a gunsmith and they immediately cracked open the grips, tightened up that screw, applied some thread locker, and all was well again for that revolver, without further incident.
@@arcfide What vintage was the 686? With the lock or pre-lock?
2:37 explained an issue I was having with my Python. I would shoot double action, keep my finger in the trigger guard and cock the hammer back and it would lock like it is supposed to, but when I would shoot nothing would happen and there was no indication of light primer strike. So thanks for the clarity in that.
I picked up a python in dec 2020.
Multiple range trips and I have occasional light primer strikes.
I load my ammo with starline brass and cci primers. Both high quality saami specs.
Same problem here but my Python was bought new Jan. 2023! I also use Starline brass and CCI primers and have a misfire almost every cylinder full in DA mode. NONE of my older Pythons were unreliable.
Can't find the python anywhere, some gun shops are taking back orders at $1,899 a pop!
*Bud Gun Shop has the 4.25 model for $2,199 the price gouging is real!
So you NEVER remove the side plate of a revolver?
Alberta Vila not on a Colt apparently. Pretty sure Ruger and S&W users have been doing it for years without issue
I’m sure if you are experienced, probably not a problem. Most owners are not experienced with revolver lockwork under the plate. (All revolvers) A few things can go wrong by reinstalling the parts wrong. Plus if Colt doesn’t see what wrong, they can’t fix the production line
Please produce some python specific front sights. Current options are not tall enough. Thank you
Look, I purchased a Colt Python 357 6inch stainless. In my local Gun store, I am 8th on the special order list and I paid full price $1595.00 plus tax. Its been 3 months since my order went through to Colt.
Thank you Colt for coming forward with an actually legitimate explanation and demonstration of what the problems were and how you've addressed them!
So, next BIG question. What’s the turn around for getting them checked out? I’ve had one of another brand gone for 4 weeks and they didn’t even look at it.
Colt needs to release which serial numbers forward has all the improved modifications.
This video makes it perfectly clear that Colt is a premier manufacturer fo premium firearms. My Colts are some of my most prized possessions, right down ti my father's 50+ year old Detective Special. Not only is the new Python gorgeous, it is a redesigned with technological innovations. With this kind of innovation, comes flaws and hiccups. People have been chiming up all over the internet and TH-cam against Colt. Colt gave us the product that we wanted. It did have some flaws, rather that denying it, Colt got it in front of it. Alamyzed the issues, transparently broadcasted the issues with solutions and is having owners with problems send the guns back so that they can be properly repaired for a lifetime of enjoyable shooting. THANK YOU COLT!!! Can't wait to put a new Python next to my 1952.
It would be nice to see Colt change the rollmark, hammer and the trigger to look more like the old design. Would be great to see a cylinder stop on the frame, too
Premier Manufacturers don't release a firearm before all the testing and kinks have been worked out. These are weapons, and some purchasers might use them for home defense.
Their lives and the lives of their families literally dependant upon them being reliable.
Colt failed miserably and if it wasn't for the Internet and buyers hearing from each other about the problems, Colt would have circled it's wagons and swept everything under the carpet.
Remember it took months of daily reviews and owners spending days on the phone to reach someone at Colt to get a resolution to this problem.
@@leedavis7508 Well spoken
1952 what? The original Python was introduced in 1955.
What are all of the technological innovations? I thought they had already progressed past the archaic flat multi purpose main spring.
Will there be a "Blue Steel" Version of the 2020 Python ?
And that, my friends, is how to properly handle PR. Well done Colt. 👍🏼
What serial number did they start with the updates?
Thanks for the update Colt!
Absolutely love my Colt firearms and so far my new Python has worked perfectly. I can't wait for the new Anaconda coming soon!!!
“We urge you not to take off the side plate yourself” yeah to heck with that.
If you can consistently turn the problem on/off with loose/tight side plate, then it will confirm Colt's statement. The trick is not going so loose that you damage other components or create a dangerous situation while shooting. Perhaps a dry fire test would be the safest approach.
So you aren't ever supposed to clean and lube the internals or do you have to send it to Colt for that? Seriously?
I know right? And it takes 5mins to change that spring out that you then have to wait 6weeks for if not longer
It’s like a car manufacturer asking you to buy a top-of-the-line model but then urging you never to open the hood.
@@mrknebel475 Fix it by buying and installing a pre-war official police main spring.
Does the gun need to be sent to Colt to have it deep cleaned since one is not supposed to remove the sideplate?
I wouldn't be surprised if Wolff came out with a Python extra-power mainspring or spring kit. Looks like there'd be a market for it.
I would sure buy the spring kit! The original spring feels good but if it don't work? Parts are around for the originals, but not even a screw for the new one! That sucks Colt!
Alright Colt. I just purchased my Colt Python on July 24, 2021 at my local gun shop in Southern California. The gun shop stated they received the Python a few days ago. I now have 10 days to pick it up because I live in California. I don't recall seeing any cosmetic issues. Are there any internal issues I need to be aware of? Are there certain serial numbers that was recalled?
I just received my brand new Colt Anaconda and it’s having the same issues with the cycle of the cylinder not turning, what do I need to do to send this piece of steel back to you so it’s “fixed “?
I'm sure you are using DC torque drivers in the assembly of these guns, and they let you know when full torque is achieved. If side plates are loose then there is another issue ie. shallow threads in the holes, screw length that is out of spec. etc. If parts are to print and proper torque is achieved, thread locker is not necessary.
“We urge customers not to remove the side plate” so.....if I want to clean it????
I'm glad this is put to bed. My one want now is, where are the front sights? You've said that the 2020 Python was made to take advantage of the King Cobra front sights, so you have lots of options. The problem is the options are few and far between, and wrong for a 6" target revolver.
I don't want a fiber optic front sight on my Python, nor do I want the red ramp. Where are the pat front or gold bead sights?
Are you guys at colt going to fix the light primer strikes yourself or will people have to take them to a gunsmith so this issue is less likely to happen?
What a shame, how does a gun this expensive leave a factory not perfect, Colt another American icon gone to hell.
How is it not perfect? How is it expensive? This recall is more about the shooter than the firearm. Making it for the masses. The price is only a little more expensive than it was in 1966. EPA and OSHA taxes are enough to raise the price.
The Unsophisticated Platypus Are you dumb bro? In what world is a malfunctioning revolver perfect?!
Settle down. Geez. Every company at every level has had a production issue with a new product. And yes, this is a new product. It's how they address the problem now. Of course it's a shame some are having the issue, but let's not rush to judgment just yet.
I bought a new Cobra when the came out and had to send it back to Colt twice the first year. Colts repair took so long each time that Colt had my Cobra for total of 7 months the first year so they had my Cobra in their possession longer than I did. So, I'm not very impressed by their product or their service...especially for what you have to pay for them!
@@Twigz11 The first time I sent it back they replaced the hammer and the second time was to replace a broken firing pin. haven't had any problems since then.
Your not alone, unfortunately. They've had my $1600 1911 for 5 months now.
We’ve seen some lite hits here too but decided to ship them and hoped you did not notice.
Stop pulling shit out of your ass. There is no reason to believe that happened based on what he said in the video.
Foolproof fix for light hits...Ruger.
Simple question, does Colt manufacture the new colt python? Or is the Colt python out sourced to another manufacturing company?
What about the looseness in the rear sight? There is a significant amount of side to side looseness where the sight attaches to the frame at the roll pin. Can cause a lot of innacuracy.
When I open the cylinder there is a "J" stamp. I've been told an "L" stamp indicates the light hammer strike issue has been addressed. What does the "J" stamp indicate?
is there any chance the custom shop will allow submission for engraving of Pythons?
I have a theory of how your introducing drag on your trigger return. Check your transfer bars for being too thick. Or cylinder pin protruding too far.
I’m also guessing the firing pin is about .005”-.015” too short. That sucks because your transfer bar and hammers are all scrap if that’s true. Good luck guys
Thanks Colt for acknowledging the Python defects and working to correct the problems , and not trying to hide or deny the problems. You don't know how much an honest approach is appreciated.
AFTER Shotshow? And HOW many videos???
What about the reports of loose rear sights? I watched a video on how to 'fix' the issue; but after spending over 2 Grand on your product, why should I have to make an aluminum shim from a soda can, to sure up my rear sight?
So are these series 2020 pythons going to have a recall or will there be a way to buy 1 straight from Colt ? The retail price is going up of course depending on the sellers and to buy the pistol for a higher price than the 1500$ retail price just to have light primer strikes issues or cylinder not rotating
would be a huge bummer.
the fix is red thread locker, or blue? and are they even made in the usa by colt anymore?
Had mine for 10 months now, fired several hundred rounds (300+) of .357 and .38. Not a single problem and not a single failure to fire.
If you are going to start gluing the screws you might want to switch to a different screw head. The standard slot screws are going to get mared when they are removed to service the internals
What about the major problem that most speed loaders don't work with the factory wooden grips? I have tried HKS and SL Variants with both 38SPL and 357Mag and the speed loaders interferes with the grips and DO NOT WORK.
How can I tell if my 2020 python is the updated version?
What serial number or production Date do the new updates start or have have started?
I've owned many Colt revolvers. The lock work is very reliable because it was originally designed for military use. Screws on ANY revolver should be checked for tightness especially when new or after any firing. It's a common problem with all revolvers. It's normal maintenance procedure as well as Loctite use. My complaint is that unlike the older Python, parts ARE NOT available. These guns are not hand fitted so why? Why the pressed in firing pin? The FP on the original Python was easily replaced just by removing the rear sight? Many of us savy revolver owners hate to send a gun back to the manufacturer, especially for simple repairs.
Any hope for a 3 inch Colt Combat Python?
Are you going to ever offer it in other finishes?
The new updated hammer spring is a valid engineering fix for light primer strikes. The issue with the loose side plate screws has me wondering about the thread spec's of the threaded holes. During manufacturing were the minor dia. of the holes out of tolerance (too large)? Where the internal threads even checked with a thread gauge? I'm thinking the internal threads were made to a very sloppy 1B spec when it should be a close tolerance 3B spec. Same goes for the screw. Was the screw major dia. undersize? Was the thread spec of the screw made to a sloppy 1A spec or a close tolerance 3A spec? Locktite on the screws is not an engineering fix. IT'S A BANDAID!!!!!!!! I still do not have confidence in the reliability of the new Python. I would love to walk through the manufacturing floor and help Colt identify root cause for the Python failures and implement a corrective action plan.
Do you plan to manufacture the Python 2020 in blue?
Bought a brand new Colt Python 4.25 for my first revolver.
I shot it for the first time today. Using federal .38 special. Malfunctions after malfunctions is what I experienced. Cylinder was binding in both single & double action. Hammer and trigger were getting stuck. Sometimes the cylinder would not close. RSO also shot my revolver and experienced the same malfuncs with a new box of ammo. I never cowboy’d it, minimally dry fired, I made sure to completely come off the trigger for proper reset. Had a proper grip.
Not even 50 rounds were fired.
And as of now it has completely locked up and cylinder will not open. Very disappointed. Has completely destroyed my joy for this gun.
Just bought my gun a month ago & was "light primer sticking" should I return for a service ?
Vice president of distribution: Ship them out now, let the customer proof test and work out all the defects. If they call, just refer them to fluff and buff video and tell them they are limp wristing. Also tell them Remington guns do the same thing.
Ordered & paid for my 4 inch Python January 3rd. Still waiting. Hope I won’t need to send it back.
Hopefully Colt has fired some Industrial Engineers ( Methods) and they have hired some inspectors.
Six Sigma didn’t prevent this disaster did it Colt?
When are you guys restocking them?
HELP! Colt says NOT TO Disassemble this gun. How can I clean it properly If I DON'T????
Thank you for your honesty! Very refreshing to see this in today’s world! Any word on royal blue versions? 4in Python crosses the line from a firearm into a timeless piece of art. Cheers from Toronto, Canada!
What is the torque value of the side plate screws?
I recently bought a new Colt King Cobra (2019 model). Love the gun, and am not having any problems with it. After hearing of the issues some were having with their new Pythons and a loose sideplate screw being the likely cause, I decided to check the sideplate screw on my King Cobra. Sure enough, it was loose. Very loose in fact. I haven't locktited it yet but I did tighten it down. Will definitely be putting a drop of blue locktite on that screw for peace of mind. Thanks for the video, Colt. I hope to have a Python of my own one day.
fxdrider01 What screw was loose and did the revolver stop functioning?
@@Briarbuddy On mine it was the screw on the left side of the frame, directly beneath the cylinder.
Thanks for bringing this up. Have had mine for a few months and just checked it. Loose side plate here too. Just torqued it down with locktite.
Here is a question I have for Colt on my 3 inch Python, i noticed there is Cylinder movement both ways even when the hammer is locked back there is still movement is this normal.
does the cylinder locks on the barrel or gas can escape?
Can we get a Diamondback in 327 Federal Magnum?
Colt really needs to work these issues out before releasing the weapons for sale. A $1500 pistol should NOT be having issues out of the box. I recently bought one of Colts new 1911 retro pistols and it can’t fire off a 7 shot magazine with out having at least 1 stove pipe. I saved for months to buy this pistol at $1,000. Just dropped it off at the dealer so it can be sent back to Colt for repair. Brand new 1k 1911 that I won’t be able to shoot for probably 90-120 days smh.
Just got my 1911 back from Colt. Fired 100rds and it’s still has stove pipes. I don’t know if I should take the loss and sell it or send it back to Colt AGAIN for repair. Unreal.
I’ve got a GP 100 Ruger will shoot any kind of 357 magnum‘s and 38 of any brand of ammo, my GP 100 cost me $500 can you beat that no you can’t,Tn.👍🇺🇸📢
Well to be fair...I bought one of the early GP100s and that thing was so out of time it spit out of both sides when firing with full magnum ammo.
+1. My 4" SS GP100 is one of the originals. I absolutely love the gun...it's built like a tank, and smooth to the touch.
I bought a Ruger GP100 and it was out of time, wouldn't unlock when the trigger was pulled. Had to send it back 2x before it would shoot reliably.
@@peterstenbuck8806 True. I had a GP100 that spit lead out the sides of the cylinder gap, painfully, when using full power ammo. But then, that's a Ruger, expectations are low. And it wasn't $1500.
Will never buy another Colt product. I made the mistake of buying a Night Cobra, and the trigger reset is crunchy with five false resets. I have owned numerous revolvers and none have ever had crunchy false resets on the trigger. Almost feel like I have to grab the trigger and pull it forward to shoot it again. S&W trigger springs back to reset without any crunch and with force. Now this whole mess with a 1000 dollar+ handgun just goes to show that Colt lost its way.
Are there any MIM parts in the new Colt python?
How interchangeable are parts with say a 1860’s python? Specifically the hammer? Broke my thumb spur off when fell.
Not 1860 but 1960’s.
I have the new 6inch python. I love it. Will colt do a blued finish python in a 4inch and 6 inch.please reply
Hey just bought a colt python 4 inch barrel brand new one and when the cylinder is out and the gun is tilted back it almost seems like it is not spinning smooth compared to if its tilted forward. Just wondering if that is regular or if something is wrong.
What makes a 357 mag. python a "blem"? Cosmetic or mechanical?
On a second note, blued model when? And when is the Anaconda coming into production?
I assume by this time all Pythons being produced now have had the needed adjustments. Do you plan to post the serial number ranges of the earlier ones that may have a problem and the new ones that have been fixed before they left the factory?
Is there going to be a 10 shot 22lr?
Little late, but is it possible to still get one?
Nice so glad Colt Managers made this video exposing this issues. I will be buying a Python just as soon as I find one!
The side plate would almost have to be failing off for the hand to move out that far. If you look at the videos on line showing the malfunctions there is be notable lifting off the side plate. And why would the screws be that loose coming from the factory? He should have stroked that action with the side plate off and that cylinder would have turned.
He did.................it didn't!
I just checked all of my 357 cartridge boxes and none of them say they are loaded to Saami specs. What ammo does Colt recommend?
Is it going to be available in CALIFORNIA???? I want one
Not Sure if anyone else has seen this.. but I noticed it on both my new colts and the one in this video.. the Cylinder doesn't lock and stop turning before the hammer falls on double action..all my S&W's.. the Cylinder locks up just a fraction before hammer fall?....Is this a Timing issue???? thanks...
Thankyou Colt. I have the new python and have fired 200 rounds with no trouble. Should I send it back for the new spring?
Well. I finally got my Colt Python 4.25 after a great deal of waiting. Was thrilled at finally getting to get it to the range and try it out. What a GREAT looking firearm, accurate as I had hoped. Shooting it in single action worked fine, empty cylinder in double action ran fine, BUT double action with 357 mags or 38 specials and the trigger would hang up. Put fired rounds in it and tried double action and the trigger would hang up. Well that said, the next day my new Colt Python is being sent back to Colt. Hopefully my fantastic looking firearm will be fixed and come back to me with fantastic trigger action.
why don't you just make a collar or notch for the hand to ride in so you don't need the plate to be the only thing holding it in place
Thank you for addressing these concerns....approximately with what serial number or production date will these issues be addressed?