smart move, make the speedrun rule "new account required" so no one will want to go through the trouble of setting it up and thus your record will not be beat
Imagine a mode where you start each game with zero upgrades or xp but the xp generation is boosted 10x times and you either go for furthest round or fastest time
This is random but I think the run's timer would've been more accurate if you started it when you hit "play" on the BTD6 title screen instead of Steam's library play button, since everyone's PC can launch games at different speeds at different times n such
Map loading times can also vary a lot between computers and you load a map over 10 times in this run, so that's a bigger problem than the steam loading time would ever be.
@@Meese12 well they do serve the purpose of giving moderators a reference for how much time has passed from the start of a cut to the end so they can adjust the run time accordingly
@@4deemi not that i know of no. you could just never save the progress made on the new account and relog in so guess that’s a faster alternative. still takes some to do though
This is a really cool run idea if optimized to instakill. Because most of the fastest towers are tier fives so you need to play out your towers multiple games in advance.
A big way to optimize this would also involve selling towers that reached all required upgrades to sell them so they can give exp to towers that really need them. Specifically Glaives is an amazing speedrun tower because it can control mass waves and is easy to unlock. It's also relatively cheap, letting you push exp onto other towers. PS: The 2-3-0 Tack is super easy to unlock and is an absolute speedrun boss, and feeds exp into the 2-0-4
I think this could also be optimized by reducing the number of towers leveled. Focusing on as few towers as possible seems most efficient to me, like choosing towers that fill multiple rolls. Boomer is good early game and great moab support, same with tack. Ace or heli is strong late game, have global ramge, and a good solve for military only along with a hero for early game. Obyn+ninja+alch solves abr and magic only, while alch is literally always good. This is a really fun speed run idea. If only there was an efficient way to make new accounts.. a mod would be good
@@bundzsi These comments are a meme related to ISAB content, not Bloons content. Also, you could've just done that on an ISAB video and get way more likes, if that's the reason you wrote this
During my last week of school where we did absolutely nothing in every class I downloaded btd6 on my laptop and started a new account, I thought of doing a challenge like this but instead I max upgraded every tower and it was fun, especially since I only played on hard and never the same map, and actually came a bit close with the true sun god and the glue gunner.
One thing I've been really curious about is how long it would take to unlock all the base stuff from a blank profile. By basic stuff I'm meaning, having access to all maps, all base form heroes(skins aren't needed), all monkey knowledge, and all upgrades for all monkeys Obviously that would be a much longer run, but it's something I'm really curious about
All monkey knowledge is the worst one because I believe there is currently exactly enough to max out between regular player levels (not veteran levels, idek if those give MK points) and achievements, and two MK points are tied to rather harsh goals (sub-5-minutes on a race and Sapper, the grindiest achievement in the game).
I have a question to all MK. Do you need to collect all books or just have every MK unlocked? You will have 5 MK books over, even when having every single Knowledge. Also, getting some of them is pure pain, since there are sime achievements that give MKs. Sapper and one of the two 365 days achievements (forgot which one of them)
@@VitaEmerald324 Veteran levels dont give any MK. I am Veteran 3 and the last one I have gotten is from reaching lvl.155 (but I am still missing 2 from achievments)
You should hit start when the game finishes loading or do not count the loading times in the full run time. We don't want hardware differences to affect the final score.
The biggest optimization I can see for this is to use Monkey Money to purchase some powers, such as Camo Traps, Moab Mines, and Cash Drops. Modes such as Apopalypse and Half Cash start up much faster when powers are incorporated.
After another viewing of this that is true. It is buried in the middle of the video around 6:30 that a statement is made of "Because we aren't running any monkey knowledge or using powers, I was not able to start with Obyn".
For anyone interested in trying this themselves: You can log in on both a phone and computer essentially creating a savestate for the level 0 account. This will help to avoid creating a new account every time you’d like to reset.
Druid of the jungle is such a beast in contested territories. If you have box of monkey plus flint tips, you can get a free druid to start plus etienne on tons of maps which ends up being a pretty free win, plus he's an absolute animal in the races
the map your using is a map i never beat, so i have been doing what you have been doing the whole video. I had to restart the medium map like 3 times cuz i messed up lol.
Try do this, but with a boss bloo- I’m kidding.. IM KIDDING. Try do a 1 cross path challenge on a map, doing all gamemodes. If there is 1 impossible level however, you can feel free to skip it. How it works: If you unlock 1 cross path, you stay with that cross path, unless you sell it. Ex: I got a 1-0-0 dart monkey, I can only now get the top path, and the other paths are no longer usable. Rules: -Use only 1 crosspath of 1 monkey. -Hero’s ARE allowed -Any map can be chosen. -No Power ups Optional: -Do any boss bloon under those conditions if you want to
For any people who like spending money on mobile games and you dont have it yet 2x cash is really great there are a few "downsides" which arent really downsides just things that would have made it better so you get double cash from bloons pops on every map and every difficulty exept chimps and boss battles also it doesent work for challenges unless the challenge specifically allows it you also get double starting cash so instead of 650 cash you start with 1300
I think using powers should be allowed in this category, since you're limited at the start with monkey money anyways. It could also make it potentially faster to start with harder modes to get more monkey money.
I have a few challenge ideas: Xp Grower - medium. Only 5 monkeys (infinite monkeys but not all monkeys available) that have the least amount of tiers unlocked. 60 rounds Last Of Us - Hard. Only 5 monkeys can be placed. 80 rounds. D.A.R.T (Direct Arts of Right Tracks) - easy. The Bloons go on the best and fastest path. 40 rounds. Also why aren't least tiers, least monkeys, and races a thing for the regular maps?
just a tip for bb no mods speedrunning turn off hints since the account is first time playing. the game will introduce you to every type of bloon wasting seconds
starting the timer when you press play on steam was a bad idea because it takes different people a different amount of time to load the game. Also, you don’t have to do the whole tutorial to pass the beginning, you can do a few rounds then exit.
I feel like this could be even crazier if the challenge was "new account chimps" or "new account expert chimps", as you'd be gaining less experience in those
Just putting it out there. The tutorial can be skipped after a point. And it's doesn't matter what towers you use at first. Just dart spam with a bomb tower. Upgrade darts for end. Did this before many times. Multiple accounts are mandatory for some things
Don't worry I think apocalypse is the hardest game mode and think they should make it a hard mode game Also you can fit a total of 9 tack shooters in the loops, which is a strat I use on monkey meadow
Every time my friend plays the game he literally spams tens of crossbows at the end of the track “just to be safe” instead of just placing a bottom path spike factory. He started playing half a year ago.
He could've saved time by unlocking all T2s for the village and get a 2-3-0 Sniper, a 0-2-4 Sniper, a 4-x-x Alchemist, and a 2-0-2 Village on Deflation
Welp... It cant just be me that the new joke in any type of these videos is gonna be... " Oh you need a tower, how about A DruiD Of ThE JunGlE" 14:27 that zoom in ont he druid only sold my point
One of the perfect upgrades for speedrun on btd 6 but 50+ 60+ 70+ 80+ 90+ is 4-2-0 sniper monkey 0-5-2 0-2-5 that is destroy moab class bloons very fast and bloons but all of that with alc buff then criple moab then perma brew/p brew/pb/brew master and that combo can solo up to freeplay, yea tbs/the bloon solver/bloon solver can solo up to bad but the only one who still think tbs is very bad moab class bloon damage is hbomb and also tbs is kinda unbalanced because or is the worst upgrade in the game or is to good for that price and the most is needed is to be very good I say very good because to incrised the price to 37k or 32k.
What other challenges should I do? I think next up with be an AI video
@@AquaRainfellninjas
No alchemist gameplays for every Chimps map
I would like to see your editor playing btd6
See how fast the AI black borders a map!
Do the same thing with a expert map
smart move, make the speedrun rule "new account required" so no one will want to go through the trouble of setting it up and thus your record will not be beat
Lmao, ty
I mean true but speedrunners are always willing to put a lot of work, I don’t think it’d be that hard to set up a new account
@@jimmyjohnjoe3700 it's not, you can literally just uninstall and reinstall the game lmfao
or just make a new ninja kiwi account
too easy with all turets unlocked
Imagine a mode where you start each game with zero upgrades or xp but the xp generation is boosted 10x times and you either go for furthest round or fastest time
That sounds like a normal game except instead of money you prioritize saving XP and you can't farm lmao besides that it sounds cool af
Accually sounds fun
You mean Bloons 4?
Could be fun
Thats a really good idea
This is random but I think the run's timer would've been more accurate if you started it when you hit "play" on the BTD6 title screen instead of Steam's library play button, since everyone's PC can launch games at different speeds at different times n such
Map loading times can also vary a lot between computers and you load a map over 10 times in this run, so that's a bigger problem than the steam loading time would ever be.
@@Meese12 run timers are mostly for show. A moderator will clip any time that isn't meant to be counted and add time that wasn't
@@Meese12 well they do serve the purpose of giving moderators a reference for how much time has passed from the start of a cut to the end so they can adjust the run time accordingly
The most underplayed speed run category.
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probably because you have to make a new acc every run
@@peepeepoopoo1826 is there no way to reset an account?
@@4deemi not that i know of no. you could just never save the progress made on the new account and relog in so guess that’s a faster alternative. still takes some to do though
This is a really cool run idea if optimized to instakill. Because most of the fastest towers are tier fives so you need to play out your towers multiple games in advance.
And it may be more useful to play a tougher map to level up to those t5s faster
@@jamesleon5235 cant do that until you beat a beginner map at least once
Wait until he realizes that you can leave the tutorial at round 3
Huge time save
Monkey Meadows no save and quit fresh account%
No reset run 😂
Probably he did it so he could get the bomb shooter first
Probably wanted the xp
This video is top-tier. It's straight to the point, the narration is good and the edits are on point. Well done!
A big way to optimize this would also involve selling towers that reached all required upgrades to sell them so they can give exp to towers that really need them.
Specifically Glaives is an amazing speedrun tower because it can control mass waves and is easy to unlock. It's also relatively cheap, letting you push exp onto other towers.
PS: The 2-3-0 Tack is super easy to unlock and is an absolute speedrun boss, and feeds exp into the 2-0-4
I think this could also be optimized by reducing the number of towers leveled. Focusing on as few towers as possible seems most efficient to me, like choosing towers that fill multiple rolls. Boomer is good early game and great moab support, same with tack. Ace or heli is strong late game, have global ramge, and a good solve for military only along with a hero for early game. Obyn+ninja+alch solves abr and magic only, while alch is literally always good. This is a really fun speed run idea. If only there was an efficient way to make new accounts.. a mod would be good
you can get an even faster time if you cancel the totourial on round 4 or so
I didn't know you could do that!
@@Hbomb yep, you can quit by round 3!
@@tackshooterlover8963 round 2*
Round 4592
Quincy: Nothing gets past my bow!
HBomb: We unlocked Gwendolin then I instantly equipped her
Quincy: You heard that I said nothing, right? 😢
Quincy is a liar and blind cheat
Shut up
💀
@@gor2056 tf is that name ☠️
The pink balloons name is nothing
I love these longer Hbomb videos! I hope you do longer videos, more of you is better! Have a good day!😃
Thanks! They're fun to make too
Try watching the 9hr bloonstuber battles tourney
I just beat MM impoppable, this was a very useful guide. Thanks.
Thank you Hbomb for popping the bloons fast
This is not an ISAB video
@@Feyeball Indeed it isn't, although it's Bloons content, and haven't really been done before
@@bundzsi These comments are a meme related to ISAB content, not Bloons content. Also, you could've just done that on an ISAB video and get way more likes, if that's the reason you wrote this
@@Feyeball There is nothing illegal about taking the meme to other bloons TH-camrs.
During my last week of school where we did absolutely nothing in every class I downloaded btd6 on my laptop and started a new account, I thought of doing a challenge like this but instead I max upgraded every tower and it was fun, especially since I only played on hard and never the same map, and actually came a bit close with the true sun god and the glue gunner.
Literally SECONDS after it was released, can’t wait to watch this!
Low-key contains one of the best Apopalypse guides, at least for the Beginner maps
after playing battles 2 I can't comprehend getting upgrades this fast
me using this as a tutorial for monkey meadow black border
0:01 smacky daddy 💀
NAH
I was so lost for about a minute
19:30 “Sell Obyn I will donate” is on CHIMPS
You shouldn’t have done monkey meadows, since the trees at the beginning actually block like of sight
Yeah. I should've done a map with water near the beginning too. Subs and Boats would've been nice
One thing I've been really curious about is how long it would take to unlock all the base stuff from a blank profile. By basic stuff I'm meaning, having access to all maps, all base form heroes(skins aren't needed), all monkey knowledge, and all upgrades for all monkeys
Obviously that would be a much longer run, but it's something I'm really curious about
All monkey knowledge is the worst one because I believe there is currently exactly enough to max out between regular player levels (not veteran levels, idek if those give MK points) and achievements, and two MK points are tied to rather harsh goals (sub-5-minutes on a race and Sapper, the grindiest achievement in the game).
I have a question to all MK. Do you need to collect all books or just have every MK unlocked?
You will have 5 MK books over, even when having every single Knowledge. Also, getting some of them is pure pain, since there are sime achievements that give MKs. Sapper and one of the two 365 days achievements (forgot which one of them)
@@VitaEmerald324 Veteran levels dont give any MK. I am Veteran 3 and the last one I have gotten is from reaching lvl.155 (but I am still missing 2 from achievments)
@@julienbronsch5039 I was thinking just getting the entire monkey knowledge trees filled out
@@CalamitasCalliope oh. Ok
Maybe, but youd still have to grind for at least 150, which would mean getting at least 120million and 1k XP
You should hit start when the game finishes loading or do not count the loading times in the full run time. We don't want hardware differences to affect the final score.
You actually earn tower experience based off the amount spent, so placing tons of weak ones for experience is kinda redundant
Well its not if they’re the majority of the money spent
No it's the ratio of money spent.
@@MrLych yea i get what u mean
I was dum lmao
The biggest optimization I can see for this is to use Monkey Money to purchase some powers, such as Camo Traps, Moab Mines, and Cash Drops. Modes such as Apopalypse and Half Cash start up much faster when powers are incorporated.
he said he wasn't going to use powers
After another viewing of this that is true. It is buried in the middle of the video around 6:30 that a statement is made of "Because we aren't running any monkey knowledge or using powers, I was not able to start with Obyn".
This was a really good idea for a video, now I wanna see how fast people can optimize it 🤔
Thanks! Idk how many people will try it though as you need a fresh account
WAIT I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS
ESPECIALLY THE INTRUDER ONES.
Bro I remember doing my first chimps and getting the unstable concoction bcz I miss clicked and it was soo good lmao
Hbomb: “our time is a little over 2 hours and 35 minutes” me who still hasn’t blackboarded monkey meadow after 3 months: 👁️👄👁️
well um sometimes you didn't show what you did but cuz of you I ALSO BEAT EVERYTHING TYSM!
Love the cult of the lamb music in the background.
For anyone interested in trying this themselves: You can log in on both a phone and computer essentially creating a savestate for the level 0 account. This will help to avoid creating a new account every time you’d like to reset.
This is a great tip for me being the start of a new account, this is amazing! 6th place is actually great and you deserved it!
The big thing you dont think about is he doesnt have access to the unlocked heroes. As in sauda. Which would make this so much faster and easier.
Imagine just being a Bloon just wanting to have a nice time at a map but you just get popped
Druid of the jungle is such a beast in contested territories. If you have box of monkey plus flint tips, you can get a free druid to start plus etienne on tons of maps which ends up being a pretty free win, plus he's an absolute animal in the races
Box of monkey? Flint tips? What bloons are you playing
@@rockypikmin4493 Contested territory, its a game-mode
when you introduce your friend to a game and he turns out to be better than you
I gotta say I love the cult of the lamb music in the background it’s faint but still love it
"What would impoppable be without farming?"
Me: CHIMPS💀💀💀
Lmao
CHMPS
Why didn’t you use any super monkeys?
Thank you! I'm a new player and you helped me get my first black border!👍
the map your using is a map i never beat, so i have been doing what you have been doing the whole video. I had to restart the medium map like 3 times cuz i messed up lol.
Try do this, but with a boss bloo- I’m kidding.. IM KIDDING. Try do a 1 cross path challenge on a map, doing all gamemodes. If there is 1 impossible level however, you can feel free to skip it.
How it works:
If you unlock 1 cross path, you stay with that cross path, unless you sell it.
Ex:
I got a 1-0-0 dart monkey, I can only now get the top path, and the other paths are no longer usable.
Rules:
-Use only 1 crosspath of 1 monkey.
-Hero’s ARE allowed
-Any map can be chosen.
-No Power ups
Optional:
-Do any boss bloon under those conditions if you want to
tack with only T4's is insane as so its a good strat for this
I remember the first moab, I was so scared, now here I am beating t5 bosses
For any people who like spending money on mobile games and you dont have it yet 2x cash is really great there are a few "downsides" which arent really downsides just things that would have made it better so you get double cash from bloons pops on every map and every difficulty exept chimps and boss battles also it doesent work for challenges unless the challenge specifically allows it you also get double starting cash so instead of 650 cash you start with 1300
I love BTD Speedruns
14:33 upgrade the druid to 130 to pop lead
the obyn can pop lead , waste of money
2:23 nuh-uh its quincy
Simple solution: Do it on resort and do the easiest 2tc strat in every mode (except alternate bloon rounds)
I think using powers should be allowed in this category, since you're limited at the start with monkey money anyways. It could also make it potentially faster to start with harder modes to get more monkey money.
I prefer it simple without powers
Thanks Hbomb your first video that i watched and learned a lot thruout it
I have a few challenge ideas: Xp Grower - medium. Only 5 monkeys (infinite monkeys but not all monkeys available) that have the least amount of tiers unlocked. 60 rounds
Last Of Us - Hard. Only 5 monkeys can be placed. 80 rounds.
D.A.R.T (Direct Arts of Right Tracks) - easy. The Bloons go on the best and fastest path. 40 rounds.
Also why aren't least tiers, least monkeys, and races a thing for the regular maps?
I think if you click or tap a 0:01 time stamp it skips the starting ad and you teleport straight to the video
This was a really interesting video it was really cool to see what you prioritised
To be clear once round 4 or 5 hits in the tuatorial you can skip it in settings.
3 of my favourite strats-
1-Avatar of wraith + 5 poplusts + Supper brittle/Enbribttlenent
2-Tack Zone + Stronger stim + Primary mentoring
3-Anti bloon + Stronger stim + Overclock + Supper brittle
supper brittle?
The tutorial can be a lot quicker, once you get the dart monkey upgrade, it allows you to quit the tutorial
just a tip for bb no mods speedrunning
turn off hints
since the account is first time playing. the game will introduce you to every type of bloon wasting seconds
I actually black borders cubism on the first day I downloaded bloons
Cap
@@I_Forgorlolol. i had been watching bloons content for a long time so i knew how to play the game
Huge 🧢 right here
0:13 i am about 33% sure you can skip the tutorial, i’ve made 3 btd6 accounts and was able to skip it once
starting the timer when you press play on steam was a bad idea because it takes different people a different amount of time to load the game. Also, you don’t have to do the whole tutorial to pass the beginning, you can do a few rounds then exit.
If I tried this, the upgrade icons would be one of the things that would make want to quit SO MUCH
Cult of the Lamb OST goes way too hard
YEES
I feel like this could be even crazier if the challenge was "new account chimps" or "new account expert chimps", as you'd be gaining less experience in those
I agree, half cash is harder than chimps especially with no MK but Sauda unlocked
Just putting it out there. The tutorial can be skipped after a point. And it's doesn't matter what towers you use at first. Just dart spam with a bomb tower. Upgrade darts for end. Did this before many times. Multiple accounts are mandatory for some things
I am really struggling to beat magic only on dark castle, any tips?
1:54 ''I placed a DART at the beginning'' bro doesn't even have the patience to say dart monkey
Don't worry I think apocalypse is the hardest game mode and think they should make it a hard mode game
Also you can fit a total of 9 tack shooters in the loops, which is a strat I use on monkey meadow
Play this at 2x speed and sounds like a mobile add
It does
So true
😂😂😂
Fr💀💀
Nahhhhh💀
Damn..
Every time my friend plays the game he literally spams tens of crossbows at the end of the track “just to be safe” instead of just placing a bottom path spike factory. He started playing half a year ago.
Just theory crafting but wouldn’t doing hard modes first be faster because of the higher tower xp scaling?
He wouldn’t start with good enough towers/upgrades though
The elite defender really is under rated
I agree. Especially if it's 2-0-5 (Large calibre)
Do more videos like this, its so good, looked at your channel and was no more videos like this. I need more!
Few weeks ago I gave myself a similar challenge but with the ultimate crosspathing mod, would love to see a youtuber attempt that as well
This is amazing! I love how you sound like one of those free mobile game ads that are like: “I started with the orcs…” or something like that.
What’s up tube and Hbomb ofc
Not much, you?
@@Hbomb amazing thank you for the reply
Engineer is a very good tower for speed running because of the ultra boost,overclock,bloon trap,xxl trap,sentry expert and sentry champion
Same as the superstorm but it’s to expensive
He could've saved time by unlocking all T2s for the village and get a 2-3-0 Sniper, a 0-2-4 Sniper, a 4-x-x Alchemist, and a 2-0-2 Village on Deflation
you can end the tutorial early by quitting out once you have placed a unit, upgraded one and placed quincy
As Hbomb once said “Druid of the jungle”
thnx for getting me first black border on MM. Thanks and do more videos like these
I can’t believe nobody nobody has done a monkey knowledge tier list
Reddit
Who else was questioning his way of saying "druid?"
A 21 minute vid from @Hbomb what a good day
Hbomb: getting a black border with a new account
Me: struggles on easy mode on intermediate maps
(this is just a joke)
Welp... It cant just be me that the new joke in any type of these videos is gonna be... " Oh you need a tower, how about A DruiD Of ThE JunGlE" 14:27 that zoom in ont he druid only sold my point
Hbomb: 2 hours 35 minutes
Me: 145 hours
remember xp is given to towers proportional to money spent, so buying 3 0-0-0 ice towers isn't gonna do all that much
There is a challenge called one solution but I found 3... for now: plasma accelerator, blade maelstrom in the end andtech terror with plasma blasts
I always start with getting full upgrade glue then move to tack, they are some of the best earlygame and ive used then to solo most maps
Daniel give me coffee
If you didn't know, one brambles solos 33
bro really turned into permabrew alchemist
Thanks 😊, I got my first black border
Imagine a nightmare mode where there was a challenge to beat it with support towers only
Wouldn’t be too hard cos of engineers
that would be impossible without powers on some maps
Mohb, mihb, man you are a fun btd6 TH-camr but you're gonna kill me with these abbreviations
Moab and mib
One of the perfect upgrades for speedrun on btd 6 but 50+ 60+ 70+ 80+ 90+ is 4-2-0 sniper monkey 0-5-2 0-2-5 that is destroy moab class bloons very fast and bloons but all of that with alc buff then criple moab then perma brew/p brew/pb/brew master and that combo can solo up to freeplay, yea tbs/the bloon solver/bloon solver can solo up to bad but the only one who still think tbs is very bad moab class bloon damage is hbomb and also tbs is kinda unbalanced because or is the worst upgrade in the game or is to good for that price and the most is needed is to be very good I say very good because to incrised the price to 37k or 32k.
I think you should’ve used dartling gunner during the run to save time as he is the perfect tower for monkey meadows.
He can’t unlock him without a tonnn of pops so he did not have dartling
Wasn't unlocked yet, he needed 2,000,000 pops
@@patrickkapoor1552 im not dumb. Use him when you unlock him
@@patrickkapoor1552 he need only 500,000 pops